David Ouma Ochieng'

Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’)Hon. Baya should tell us how those guys who garnishee the accounts get to know that there is money in the accounts. Be that as it may, I will now put the Question. 25th April 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 26 Hon. Temporary...

Hon. Temporary Chairman. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng')Go ahead, Hon. Chairperson.

Hon. Temporary Chairman. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng')This now has to go to the vote. (Question, that the word to be left out be left out, put and agreed to) (Question, that the word to be inserted in place thereof be inserted, put and agreed to)

Hon. Temporary Chairman. I beg to indulge you. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’)Thank you. Hon. Members, the County Licensing (Uniform Procedure) Bill (Senate Bill No. 9 of 2022), is, therefore, pended until the next time it is put on the Order Paper for consideration in the Committee of the...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the National Land Commission (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.43 of 2023) , and approved the same with amendments.

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Senate Amendments to the Water (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.33 of 2023) , and approved the same with amendments.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Members, the decision on this Motion will be made the next time it is slotted in the Order Paper. (Putting of the Question deferred) Next Order. THE PUBLIC SERVICE INTERNSHIP BILL The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Thank you. The Mover...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Isiolo South.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Nyeri.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Migori County.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) What is out of order, Hon. Geoffrey Ruku?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) That will pass.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Mbeere North, this is your chance to contribute to this Motion.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) This chance goes to the Member for Narok North.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Sotik. Hon. Elisha, you have to put your card in. You will not get a chance to speak if you do not have a card. You can be sure about that. Just go up there, and they will give you...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Gem.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Members, allow me to welcome the Africa Youth Leadership Forum officials to the Speaker’s Gallery. This is a forum consisting of Secretary-Generals of universities in the country, including – it is a long list – Brian Wekesa, St. Pauls University; Christopher...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') How many minutes are you giving, Hon. Ruweida? Call all the Members out so that we know them. You have mentioned Hon. Antony Oluoch and Hon. Harrison Kombe. Who is the next Member? (An hon. Member spoke off the record) It is her chance...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Oluoch.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Kombe. You have a minute.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Shakeel.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Pauline Lenguris.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Ruweida, you have two minutes to wind up. You gave out all your time.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You will get two minutes because that is what you have now.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Kwale. Hon. Masito, this is your opportunity.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Member for Samburu West, I hate to interrupt you. I know you are on a roll already, but you will pick it up from there the next time this business is put on the Order Paper. 24th April 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 34...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Vyema. Member for North Imenti.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Dawood, this was your chance but you keep on fidgeting and raising your hands. That is why I have not given you a chance to contribute. If you sit down and keep your cool, you will get your chance. It does not work...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Kisauni.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well said. Member for Luanda.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Marakwet West.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Members, join me in welcoming in the Public Gallery, a group of students from various universities in Starehe Constituency. They have come to follow the proceedings of Parliament today. They are welcome this afternoon. Thank you. (Applause)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Buuri Constituency.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Member, you did not say anything about the Motion. We will now have the Member for Shinyalu.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Next is the Member for Sigowet/Soin. Hon. Justice Kemei (Sigowet/Soin, UDA) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to add my voice to this important Motion. At the outset, I give my full support to this Motion that...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Vyema, na ahsante. Sasa twende Samburu West.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)Member Turkana West, Hon.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Malava.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Alego Usonga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I do not know what you have not said that makes only you know what you are laughing at. The Member for Gilgil.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Member for Sirisia.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Tinderet. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support this Motion by Hon. Obo, Member for Lamu. This is a timely Motion noting that we have recently had a spate of accidents involving our military aircrafts. The Motion before us seeks...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Kwanza.

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you so much, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I thank Hon. Ruweida for bringing this timely Motion. 24th April 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 8 Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG)Floor of this House. This should be something that goes without saying. How we treat our armed forces...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)Hon. Member for Mosop. Hon. Ruku, your chance will come definitely.(Hon. Ruku stood up in his place)(Technical hitch)Hon. Ruku, you are out of order totally. Resume your seat. Hon. Member for Mosop, come and use this microphone that is on.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Kilifi North.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Ndindi, I want you to listen to Hon. Baya because he is speaking to you.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, the time being 1.00

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Division of Revenue Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.14 of 2024) , and approved the same without amendments.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon David Ochieng’) Hon. Babu Owino.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon David Ochieng’) Hon. Jackson Kosgei.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Garissa Township.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Dagoretti North.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Members, I wish to welcome student leaders from Kenyatta University who are seated in the Speakers’ Gallery this afternoon. I also wish to extend my condolences to them and to their school for the loss of their colleagues in a tragic accident that happened...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Busia.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon David Ochieng’) Hon. Ombaka, you have the opportunity to contribute.

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered Senate amendments to the Affordable Housing Bill (National Assembly Bill No.75 of 2023) and approved the same without amendments.

Hon. Temporary Chairman. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’)This chance then goes to the Member for Mombasa County.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Thank you very much. I will now put the Question. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (The House resumed) IN THE HOUSE [The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Gladys Boss) in the Chair] CONSIDERATION OF SENATE AMENDMENTS TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BILL The Temporary Chairman.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Hon. Phylis Bartoo, on this matter, right?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Member for Mogotio.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Hon. Members, there being no further interest in this matter, I now call upon the Mover to reply. Hon. Caroli Omondi, you have just slotted in your card. Do you want to speak on this? Okay. Go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Thank you. Member for Ganze

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Thank you. The Member for Kitutu Chache North, Hon. Japheth Nyakundi.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Thank you. Member for Alego Usonga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Member for Rarieda Constituency, do you want to speak on this Motion? (Hon. (Dr) Otiende Amollo gestured in the negative) That probably marks the end of the debate on this Motion. I will call upon the Mover of this Motion to reply. Hon. Abdul...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Hon. Makali, I advise you to go up there and get a card. It is not here. That is why I have not given you a chance so far. I cannot see it. Hon. Dorothy Ikiara, go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Baya.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Member for Samburu East.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Thank you. Let us have Hon. (Dr) Nyikal. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for the opportunity. I rise to support this. Hon. Temporary Speaker, we have to live in the modern world. We cannot continue to do things in the old way. Climate monitoring...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I call upon the Mover to move reporting on the Land (Amendment) Bill (No.40 of 2022) .

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Mover.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. (Question proposed)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Rachael Nyamai. What is out of order? (Hon. Rachael Nyamai spoke off record) 13th March 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 11 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)We are still on the Land (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.40 of 2022).Go ahead Mheshimiwa.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Okay. Hon. Baya.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Kihara.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Hon. Phylis Bartoo, on this matter, right?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Member for Mogotio.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Hon. Members, there being no further interest in this matter, I now call upon the Mover to reply. Hon. Caroli Omondi, you have just slotted in your card. Do you want to speak on this? Okay. Go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Thank you. Member for Ganze

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Thank you. The Member for Kitutu Chache North, Hon. Japheth Nyakundi.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Thank you. Member for Alego Usonga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Member for Rarieda Constituency, do you want to speak on this Motion? (Hon. (Dr) Otiende Amollo gestured in the negative) That probably marks the end of the debate on this Motion. I will call upon the Mover of this Motion to reply. Hon. Abdul...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Hon. Makali, I advise you to go up there and get a card. It is not here. That is why I have not given you a chance so far. I cannot see it. Hon. Dorothy Ikiara, go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Baya.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Member for Samburu East.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Thank you. Let us have Hon. (Dr) Nyikal. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for the opportunity. I rise to support this. Hon. Temporary Speaker, we have to live in the modern world. We cannot continue to do things in the old way. Climate monitoring...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I call upon the Mover to move reporting on the Land (Amendment) Bill (No.40 of 2022) .

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Mover.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. (Question proposed)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Rachael Nyamai. What is out of order? (Hon. Rachael Nyamai spoke off record) 13th March 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 11 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)We are still on the Land (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.40 of 2022).Go ahead Mheshimiwa.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Okay. Hon. Baya.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Kihara.

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I thank the Members who have spoken on this Bill. I request this House to hasten the process of moving it to the next stage, so that Kenyans can access and petition Parliament in a manner that makes...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Petitions to Parliament (Procedure) (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.51 of

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. As Hon. Ruku was contributing, I imagined him receiving a message today at 6.00 [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Omboko Milemba) left the Chair] [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) took the Chair]

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I thank the Members who have spoken on this Bill. I request this House to hasten the process of moving it to the next stage, so that Kenyans can access and petition Parliament in a manner that makes...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Petitions to Parliament (Procedure) (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.51 of

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. As Hon. Ruku was contributing, I imagined him receiving a message today at 6.00 [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Omboko Milemba) left the Chair] [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) took the Chair]

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You are a veteran Member. I expect you to do the right thing.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Pukose.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I can see Hon. Victor Koech. Hon. Ruku.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Wanyonyi, go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Saku.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Samburu East.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Funyula, do you want to Speak on this? Okay. Member for Gilgil.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well said, thank you so much. Hon. Members, I note that there is no further interest to speak on this particular Motion. I accordingly call upon the Mover to reply. (Hon. Emmanuel Wangwe consulted loudly) The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order, Member for...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Ruku (Hon. Wilberforce Oundo spoke off the record) Order, Hon. Oundo. Come on! Go on, Hon. Ruku

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Thank you so much Hon. Ruku. Members, I note the point of order raised by Hon. Ruku. I direct that decision on this Motion will be made in the next sitting, which is Tuesday next week. (Putting of the Question deferred) Before I call...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Go ahead. ADOPTION OF REPORT OF THE AUDITOR-GENERAL ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT MINISTRIES, DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES FOR THE FINANCIAL YEAR 2020/2021

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Mbadi, there is a point of order that I want to listen to. Hon. Ruku, what is out of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) What is out of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order. I have been sitting here listening to him. I have not heard him talk about the Kenya Kwanza Government in his statement, at all. Unless you point out what is out of order, I will request that you resume your seat.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Ruku, resume your seat. I know that you want to speak on this matter. You will have a chance to contribute to this matter. We will now allow Hon. Mbadi to conclude. What is out of order, Hon. Junet Mohamed? It...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Correct. Let him now do that. You may resume your seat.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') You are moving a Motion for the Financial Year 2020/2021 and not the current one.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Oundo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I add you one minute so that you can conclude and second.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. (Question proposed) The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Soy.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order! Go ahead, Hon. Wangwe. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Kiplagat, are you reading from the Report or this is a story from somewhere else?