David Ouma Ochieng'

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Next Order. NOTICES OF MOTIONS The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) In this Order, we have three Members who have notices of motions. Member for Nairobi City County, are you ready? (Hon. Mark Mwenje consulted with Hon. Esther Passaris) Hon. Mwenje, allow...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Just inform your Chairperson that his attendance in the House is key. He will be allowed to lay the papers the next time the House sits. Hon. Gitari, you can take the next seat and lay the Paper. Hon. Gitari will lay the Paper...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Gitari, approach the Clerk-at- the-Table. (Hon. Joseph Gitari approached the Clerks-at-the-Table) Hon. Gichimu, you had something to say.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you, Hon. Haika. That marks the end of that Order. Do we have a Member who has been left out? (Hon. Joseph Gitari spoke off the record) What is it, Hon. Gitari?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) The Chairperson of the Diaspora and Migrant Workers Committee.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. The Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Co-operatives, Hon. Gakuya. The Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security. Hon. Raso is here.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I notice that Members are still streaming in. There is no quorum. Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Bell for five minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Members, I can now confirm that we now quorate to transact business. Hon. Members who are on their...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Next Order. 14th August 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 13 COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) left the Chair] IN THE COMMITTEE [The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) in the Chair] THE COTTON INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT BILL

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, I think it is reasonable for the House to consider the request. I will, therefore, put the Question. 14th August 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 12 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)(Question, that the Mover be now called upon to reply, put and...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you, Chair of the Departmental Committee on Sports and Culture. Any Member of that Committee? Hon. Deputy Leader of the Majority Party, this chance goes to you.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. (Dr) Pukose.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Next Order. THE COUNTY GOVERNMENTS ADDITIONAL ALLOCATIONS BILL The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, the debate on this Bill is ongoing and I need to know from the Members who have put their cards here whether they want to contribute to this....

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) I know this is not a small matter and I would wish that the Chairman and his Committee take their time to deal with this matter conclusively. Thank you.

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for the opportunity. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request for a statement from the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Affairs, regarding the ongoing abductions and...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I followed the proceedings of this vetting and I can tell you, because you do not watch yourself, that your Committee enjoyed vetting these two ladies, compared to what we saw the other week, because they were graceful. They...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Next Order. 14th August 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 13 COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) left the Chair] IN THE COMMITTEE [The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) in the Chair] THE COTTON INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT BILL

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, I think it is reasonable for the House to consider the request. I will, therefore, put the Question. 14th August 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 12 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)(Question, that the Mover be now called upon to reply, put and...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you, Chair of the Departmental Committee on Sports and Culture. Any Member of that Committee? Hon. Deputy Leader of the Majority Party, this chance goes to you.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. (Dr) Pukose.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Next Order. THE COUNTY GOVERNMENTS ADDITIONAL ALLOCATIONS BILL The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, the debate on this Bill is ongoing and I need to know from the Members who have put their cards here whether they want to contribute to this....

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) I know this is not a small matter and I would wish that the Chairman and his Committee take their time to deal with this matter conclusively. Thank you.

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for the opportunity. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request for a statement from the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Affairs, regarding the ongoing abductions and...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I followed the proceedings of this vetting and I can tell you, because you do not watch yourself, that your Committee enjoyed vetting these two ladies, compared to what we saw the other week, because they were graceful. They...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, the time being 1.09

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Mover, Hon. Emaase.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) The next Bill that was considered this morning is the Cotton Industry Development Bill. CONSIDERATION OF REPORT ON THE COTTON INDUSTRY BILL The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Temporary Chairlady.

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) I oppose this amendment. I imagine that the Chairman would say that the CEO should have experience in the cotton industry, and not necessarily a master's degree. This industry has been facing many challenges. Most people in this area have been learning and amassing experience....

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I have just been looking at the latest amendments, that is, Clauses 26, 27 and 28 vis-à-vis the… (Hon. David Ochieng’ spoke while seated) The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : Hon. Ochieng’, please be up standing. Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya,...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I have heard Hon. Nabii and Hon. (Dr) Oundo. You have already given a license, there is a farmer or a person running a ginnery and going on with what he is supposed to do. We must give discretion for the person...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Now that they are going to be working on an amendment they are agreeing on, I am just trying to agree with Hon. Oundo. As you do that, please, put a mandatory requirement for ADR Before they go to any tribunal, there is a level...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, the primary reason for this Bill is to revive the failed cotton industry. Our history as a country has shown that every time we introduce a levy, the body that we are creating here today will be looking forward to raising money,...

Hon. David Ochieng (Ugenya, MDG) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : What is out of order, Hon. Ochieng? Hon. David Ochieng (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I am just wondering whether at this stage we can have that. This is...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MGD) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I want to build on what Hon. Oundo has said. This amendment will be good, if the Chairperson moves a further amendment and removes the word “tax”. I plead with him to do it. It opens the whole thing up to the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, as you are aware, we have considered three Bills. We will start with the reporting of the first one we did. I therefore call upon the Chairperson to move reporting. CONSIDERATION OF REPORT ON THE PENSIONS (AMENDMENT) BILL

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Mover.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, for obvious reasons, I defer putting the Question on this matter until the next time it is slotted in the Order Paper. (Putting of the Question deferred) CONSIDERATION OF REPORT ON THE SUGAR BILL The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) We, therefore,...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Mover. 31st July 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 61

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Nabii.

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Please, let us allow them to have their monies. Let them do their job. That is my plea to my fellow Hon. Members. Let us not get into tuff wars. They say that when they go low, we go high. Let them be. (Loud consultations)

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I want to ask Hon. Members to forgive the Senate for they do not know what they are doing. There are people who just keep yapping everyday but they do not know how money is made and how it is allocated. I...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Please, let us allow them to have their monies. Let them do their job. That is my plea to my fellow Hon. Members. Let us not get into tuff wars. They say that when they go low, we go high. Let them be. (Loud consultations)

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I want to ask Hon. Members to forgive the Senate for they do not know what they are doing. There are people who just keep yapping everyday but they do not know how money is made and how it is allocated. I...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Duly noted. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) We have the Member for Tiaty, Hon. William Kamket. ORDINARY QUESTION STATUS OF RECRUITMENT OF PRINCIPALS AND DEPUTY PRINCIPALS IN ARID AND SEMI-ARID AREAS

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, let us proceed to the next order. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON THE FIRST SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES FOR THE FINANCIAL YEAR 2024/2025

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you, Hon. Members. Order. The first person to bite the cherry on this would be the Member for Aldai. What is your point of order? This is your chance to contribute.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Well done. The Member for Khwisero.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Alego Usonga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Maragwa.

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Okay. Hon. Makali.

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Gonzi Rai go ahead. Sorry. Just take your seat for a moment. The Question by the Member for Tiaty, will go to the 24th July 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 2 The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’)Departmental Committee on Education and Research. I do...

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Gonzi Rai. REQUEST FOR STATEMENT STATUS OF IMPLEMENTATION OF MWACHE DAM PROJECT

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Thank you. The request for Statement will go to the Departmental Committee on Blue Economy, Water and Irrigation. I saw Hon. Kangogo sometime earlier. Hon. Dorothy are you a Member of that Committee?

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Thank you. (Hon. Gonzi Rai spoke off the record) Hon. Gonzi Rai, you just…

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Hon. Dorothy inform Hon. Kangogo on the urgency of this matter. I am sure Hon. Gonzi Rai can engage him as he waits for formal engagement at the Committee level.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Chepkonga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Oundo. Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula ODM) . Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker for giving me this opportunity to comment. In essence, I do not oppose the Motion, but obviously, like every Kenyan will ask: What is the hurry? The Bill is already...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. The Member for Kitui West, do you want to speak on this Bill? Edith Nyenze (Kitui West, WDM) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. From the outset, I support this Bill which is important, especially for the unemployed graduates. We have very...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Likoni.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Sotik, do you want to contribute to the debate on this Bill? You are next in line. 24th July 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 8 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)(Technical hitch) Use the microphone next to your seat.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Members, the time allotted for this Bill has lapsed. I now call upon the Mover to reply.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Wanyonyi.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Oluoch.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Lesuuda.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well said, Chairperson. Hon. Mary Emaase.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Duly noted. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) We have the Member for Tiaty, Hon. William Kamket. ORDINARY QUESTION STATUS OF RECRUITMENT OF PRINCIPALS AND DEPUTY PRINCIPALS IN ARID AND SEMI-ARID AREAS