Moses Masika Wetangula

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank our distinguished colleague from Wajir County for bringing this Statement. This Statement speaks to not only Northern Kenya, but all frontier counties such as Bungoma, Busia, Trans-Nzoia, West Pokot and Turkana counties which suffer the same fate. Sen. (Dr.) Ali and our colleagues...

Sen. Wetangula Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I want to thank Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. for raising the statement which I and Sen. Faki had lined up to make. We, in fact, visited the prison yesterday, and I want to start by commending the officers of Kitui Prison. They are...

Sen. Wetangularegion. I have no doubt in my mind that this was a conspiracy agreed upon by the three of them to snub the Senate for purposes of ensuring that we go away.Madam Temporary Speaker, can Sen. Kajwang’s Committee tell the governors of this region that we are going nowhere....

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Sen. WetangulaHilary Clinton Foundation. There should have been a place where all of us would have spent some of the money that we were given to buy a ciondo.I would have been happy to do so, so that we can promote local tourism. Allow those platforms, like the way supermarkets...

Sen. Wetangulait ends up in people’s pockets and private accounts. The institutions of governance in this country have badly let down the country. The office of the Director of Public Prosecution (DPP), the Auditor-General, the Director of Criminal Investigations (DCI) and all these institutions that ought to be looking after...

Time is up, Sen. Wetangula.

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I do not want to repeat what other Senators have said. However, I have noted that another challenge that Sen. Khaniri should also include is that there are some assets that are under-valued in revenue collection. For instance, in my county and Kericho County...

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Sen. Wetangula I am sure Sen. Wetangula will find no problem apologizing to you, being the gentleman he is because I saw him retract very fast when I brought it to his attention. September 18, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 24 Sen. Wetangula(Laughter)

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Sen. Wetangula Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am discussing the membership of the Committee - the sanitized ad hoc Committee on Health. (Laughter) Yes! Sen. Wetangula Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we might start leasing all manner of things. This House must stand up to be counted. I want to tell...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, I beg to support the adjournment of debate, as proposed by the Senator for Kakamega. This is a very serious matter, and we are not handling it with the seriousness it deserves, as the Senate. This matter has been discussed severally in the Senate...

Sen. Orengo, would you like to be informed? The Senate Minority Leader (

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, yes, I would. Sen. Wetangula Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would like to inform the distinguished Senator for Siaya County, my distinguished learned senior, that the old practice in the Houses of Parliament is that when a Member sets up an ad hoc Committee, you do...

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Sen. Wetangula Order, hon. Members! September 17, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 44

Thank you. Hon. Members, let us try and redeem time. We are not doing very well. Sen. Mwaura, if you can take less than five minutes, the better, especially if you speak to issues that have not been spoken to by the previous speakers. (Loud consultations)

Sen. Wetangula Order! Order!

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Sen. Wetangula On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, I do not know if it has been brought to your attention that these gadgets are malfunctioning. Every time you want to get the Order Paper, you are only limited to Order Papers for August, yet we are in September. I experienced this yesterday and...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, there is the law that requires security organs in every county to work in harmony, co-operation and collaboration with the county governments, with the governors of counties being the chairpersons of the security board of their counties. The national Government has arrogantly and defiantly ignored...

Sen. Wetangula On a point of order, Mr. Speaker Sir. It is interesting, listening to my distinguished colleague from Elgeyo-Marakwet County who is the Senate Majority Leader and, therefore, the representative of the national Government in this House. Is it in order for him to continue belabouring a point that...

Sen. Wetangulaaround, the only enemies that they see are Nigerians, Ethiopians, Kenyans, Zambians, Zimbabweans, Botswanans and all the other brothers who shed blood and made sacrifices to make things work in South Africa.I condemn what is happening in South Africa in the strongest terms possible. I condemn even harder President...

Sen. Wetangula I share your direction, Madam Temporary Speaker. I participated in drafting the Standing Orders together with the late hon. (Dr.) Bonaya Godana, hon. Julius Sunguli and the late Henry Obwocha. I would like to say for the record that the behavior of the Government of South Africa and...

This is a friendly state and these Standing Orders are express and we should go by what they state. I have already directed that we refrain from mentioning or discussing the personal conduct of the President of the Republic of South Africa.

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Sen. Wetangula Madam Temporary Speaker, you can understand why all of us are infuriated. The contradiction about the Statement that Sen. Wetangula is referring to is because the distress calls that we are receiving through social media shows that Kenyans in South Africa are unsafe. The second thing is that...

Sen. Wetangula Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The issues raised in the Petition read by the distinguished Senator for Kitui are as outrageous as they are scandalous. Mr. Speaker, Sir, closing a hospital and citing insecurity - not insecurity in general - but insecurity of staff is something that this...

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Sen. Wetangula What is your point order, Sen. Murkomen?

Sen. Wetangula Your sentiments have been noted, but I made a ruling after considering the mood of the House. I am intelligent enough to know that the Senators wanted to vote. Kindly proceed, Sen. Olekina. (Laughter)

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

What is your point of order, Sen. Cheruiyot?

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg your indulgence, because this is a very difficult situation; it is like watching divorce proceedings of your parents live on the television. The more we keep talking, the more we continue disparaging each other and saying nasty things to one another. We need to hang...

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

What is your point of order, Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.?

Mr. Speaker, Sir, we are all going to vote, eventually. There is merit that the Senate spoke, the Mediation Committee spoke and people have raised their own objections. However, if we continue disparaging one another, the way Sen. Olekina has started, then all of us are going to look very...

Sen. Olekina is the last person to contribute to this Motion. Allow him to complete, for us to take a vote.

Sen. Wetangula That is a very good proposal, Sen. Wambua, and it is also assumed that you will go by road. This is because, you cannot talk about opening up of roads and you are oversighting from the skies and heavens. It will be very good so that you look...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I want to congratulate Sen. Prengei for bringing this Statement. I would like to confirm to this House that I am a Member, in good standing, of the Committee on Roads and Transportation. As Sen. Wetangula has said, the Committee will be visiting Malaba...

That is a very good proposal, Sen. Wambua, and it is also assumed that you will go by road. This is because, you cannot talk about opening up of roads and you are oversighting from the skies and heavens. It will be very good so that you look at that...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to congratulate Sen. Prengei. When he told me about this Statement, I said that I must contribute a little bit in terms of trying to bring sanity into this issue. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, this issue reminds me of a border called Kazungula in...

else should come up with another system that identifies each truck and the final destination.If a truck goes through Naivasha and the final destination is Busia, then there is no reason we should weigh that truck there because it is on transit. However, if the final destination is Nakuru, then...

I direct the Senate Committee on Roads and Transportation, while addressing the matter concerning the Malaba Border Post during the intended visit on Thursday, to also include within the itinerary a visit to Gilgil Weighbridge and address the issues raised by the request for a Statement by Sen. Prengei. Since...

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Sen. Wetangulastarted constructing their own county offices. Tana River has not done anything and Isiolo was doing it last year.We sat down with the Ministry of Transport, Infrastructure, Public Works and Urban Development and went through the possibilities of what the costs of those projects are. This is how the...

Sen. Wetangula Thank you, Sen. (Prof.) Kamar. August 8, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 16 Sen. Wetangula and cooperate. Even in this situation that the country has found itself in, thanks to our colleagues in the “lower House,” the national Government is operating. I suspect they operate on the basis of vote...

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Sen. Wetangula Sen. Kinyua, how come? (Laughter)

Sen. Kinyua, how come?

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I was interrupted by Sen. Faki when I was mentioning the names.

So, which other party leaders are you consulting?

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I will consult hon. Stephen Kalonzo Musyoka and the party leader of FORD- (K) , Sen. Wetangula.

You should also consult any other party which is represented in that Assembly. It is so ordered. Let that matter lie there. Actually, this matter is not a joke. If a party has representation in that Assembly, I see no reason why they should not be consulted. It is spiteful...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity to contribute to the Statement by the Chairperson of the Committee on Devolved Government and Intergovernmental Relations. It is true that in the last one month, there has been a stalemate between the county executive and the county assembly....

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for giving me an opportunity to welcome pupils and students from Migori and Homa Bay counties which are far. So, when pupils and students identify the Senate as an institution worthy of visit, it is good for us to acknowledge that gesture. To the...

Hon. Senators, I have a Communication to make concerning the matter of the Division of Revenue Bill. I would like us to proceed to Order No. 8 after this Communication which is the Second Reading of the Division of Revenue Bill (No.2) (National Assembly Bills No. 59 of 2019. I...

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Sen. Wetangulalawyers like yours truly here. We cannot let him go astray or act in ignorance of the law. Sen. (Dr.) Kabaka is a distinguished lawyer and a Member of the Committee. That notwithstanding, our Committee never sits without a lawyer in attendance from the Directorate of Legal Services just...

Sen. Wetangula: Thank you, colleagues. I can see so many requests and I understand. I can also understand the very strong comments made by Sen. Wetangula. Allow me to make the following little comments: First, we are not debating Division of Revenue Act (DORA) . There is no Motion before...

as they say and respect this document called the Constitution? In fact, the most incurably defective legislation passed in a House of Parliament as at today is the Appropriations Bill passed by the National Assembly.I urge this House to stand and speak with one voice. Our integrity, dignity and the...

Thank you, colleagues. I can see so many requests and I understand. I can also understand the very strong comments made by

First, we are not debating Division of Revenue Act (DORA) . There is no Motion before us. Whoever I gave a chance must have stood on a point of order following my communication. Once a Speaker makes a ruling, you can have an intervention; either to commend or to say...

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Sen. Wetangula Order, Senators! Just have your seat, Sen. (Prof.) Kamar. The most honorable thing to do is to make a democratic decision on how to proceed. I am saying this because I am seeing a lot of movement. We should not act like we are playing with the people...

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Sen. Wetangula Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have listened to the petition before the House with a lot of interest. You will recall that when we brought the Constitution, 2010, we set up the National Land Commission (NLC) to deal with issues that this petition is raising; to remedy the...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to support the distinguished lady. The problem with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in this country is that it is grossly underfunded. At independence, Emperor Haile Selassie gave Kenya five acres of land next to State House in Addis Ababa and Mzee...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, MTRH serves almost all the counties in the western region starting from Turkana County to Migori County. As the Committee looks into this issue, they should also find out about the hyped programme of building a brand new MTRH in Eldoret. That hospital was...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I support the idea of a county hall of fame. However, this is a very poorly drafted Bill. The Bill does not bring out what one expects to create a hall of fame for the reason that I will give. I urge Sen. Dullo...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Deputy Speaker, is my distinguished nephew conducting a kamukunji? (Laughter) August 6, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 19 Sen. Wetangulagenerosity of the President and his friends, Joe Kadenge would have been buried as a pauper. Joe Kadenge lived in a city council house in Madaraka Estate all his life...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Prof. Bethwell Ogot has literally taught the whole of Kenya. When we recognize him and just write his name in a Hall of Fame is an assault on the integrity and dignity of those we are recognizing. We must restructure this Bill seriously. When...

Sen. Wetangula: It is either you are for the Bill, with or without amendments or you are against it. Let us hear from the Professor of soil science. (Sen. (Prof.) Kamar stood up at her place) Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, you have not requested to speak. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, in...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, I join you in welcoming the delegation from Estonia to the ‘Upper House’ of Kenya. Equally, I also receive and welcome the two schools from my county of Bungoma where you, the Speaker, also come from. Our county is lucky to be represented by the...

Sen. Wetangula On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I have no issue with the Communication because that is according to procedure. However, the issue and the big question must be: We have also conveyed our Division of Revenue Bill to the National Assembly. You have directed, and rightly...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is the second Statement coming on the Floor of this House in relation to the upcoming census next month. While I support the concerns of the distinguished nominated Member about pastoralist movements and the ability to enumerate them, the Chair ordered, after several interventions...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, from where I come from, we have a saying that when you raise a stick towards a thieving dog, even without aiming at it, it starts crying and wailing. (Laughter)

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have no intention, whatsoever, of denigrating the standing of my Chairperson. He is my good friend and we work so closely. I quoted a saying from my language. Like Chinua Achebe said: “old, frail women feel very uncomfortable when dry bones are mentioned.” That...

Sen. Wetangula Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Let me finish by urging the Chairperson once again that we need the CS in this House so that every Senator is at the same level of confidence and comfort that we will have a credible census that will reflect the true number...

Sen. Wetangula(Laughter) July 31, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 38 Sen. Wetangula processed in laboratories in Europe and dumped in Africa. Nobody wants to go to the supermarket to buy oranges from Makueni or from Lake Naivasha. We want to buy oranges brought in from Israel, Brazil, Argentina or New Zealand without...

In reality, Sen. Wetangula, the way you are pronouncing it makes things even worse. Is it the “Hippocratic” or “Hippocritic” oath? Sen. Wetangula Are you on a point of order, Sen. (Dr.) Ali? July 31, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 41

Alright, I will add you five more minutes. Sen. Wetangula: Sen. Wetangula: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I request that putting of the question be deferred to tomorrow. July 31, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 42

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, this country must change. President Uhuru has declared war on corruption, and I want to urge him not to relent. We should not just think that corruption is limited at the top level, because it is at every level. The clinical officer who puts medicine in...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, defeating Hon. Isaac Ruto was not easy. Hon. Isaac Ruto was an institution and had a huge stature politically in this country, but Joyce made mincemeat of him and won the seat. We salute her. May the good Lord rest her soul in eternal peace....

You have one minute, please. Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, defeating Hon. Isaac Ruto was not easy. Hon. Isaac Ruto was an institution and had a huge stature politically in this country, but Joyce made mincemeat of him and won the seat. We salute her. May the good Lord rest...

Hon. Senators, I would like to acknowledge the presence in the Public Gallery this afternoon of visiting students and teachers of Muthaiga Primary School in Narok County. In our usual tradition of receiving and welcoming visitors to Parliament, I extend a warm welcome to them. On behalf of the Senate...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity to condole with the families of our colleagues on my own behalf and on behalf of the people of Nairobi. First of all, I thank colleagues for condoling with the people of Nairobi. I also give my condolences to the families of...

Your time is up!

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, he was my MP.

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Sen. Wetangula Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is on the screen, but how do I underline the salient points on the screen before I come to contribute? (Laughter) Sen. Wetangula, I thought we went digital. That Bill is on your screen. July 30, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 26 Sen. Wetangula Thank...