Moses Masika Wetangula

Sen. Wetangula): Mr. Speaker, Sir, the correct name is “Kipkurui”. Not Kiptui. Thank you for giving me this chance. I also agree with the sentiments of the Senate Minority Leader, that this Petition falls below the threshold of what we should consider as a House, despite the fact that it...

Thank you, senator for Bungoma County. Sen. Cheruiyot Aaron Kiptui.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, the correct name is “Kipkurui”. Not Kiptui. Thank you for giving me this chance. I also agree with the sentiments of the Senate Minority Leader, that this Petition falls below the threshold of what we should consider as a House, despite the fact that it is properly...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, sorry, I have just come in late and I was trying to check whether my card is really functional. However, I may not miss something to say reading from what the Senate Minority Leader and Sen. Cheruiyot have spoken about. I was not here and do not...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I stand to oppose the petition on the growth and consumption of Cannabis Sativa. We all know that this is a House of record. Ten, 20, 30 or forty years down the line; Kenyans will judge this Senate harshly. At a time when there are many issues...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to comment on this petition. I am not going to oppose it for various reasons which I want everyone to listen to. I think that we are in a democratic country. As the Senate of a young democracy, we should allow different views. I lived...

It is therefore fair for the petitioner to be heard as a Kenyan. He should come before the committee and we do research. It should be noted that we also have another plant, miraa, that people use and there have been debates around it. Before we oppose or allow certain...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I also want to concur with the Senator for Narok County that we should not dismiss this petitioner. When I was studying in California, there were certain farmers that were allowed to grow this plant for medicinal purposes. What I learnt from there is that they had...

use Marijuana, they can till land tirelessly because it gives them extra powers from nowhere. Such evil powers can be very destructive for this country.Mr. Speaker, Sir, all in all, this petitioner should be heard so that we can challenge our research institutions such as Kenya Medical Research Institute (KEMRI)...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to guide the House on comments on petitions; we are not supposed to be discussing the merits and demerits of the petition. We are supposed to make comments without necessarily going into the merits and demerits of the petition. In future, this should be...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I am inclined to support hon. Khaniri and Sen. Ledama’s position, purely on procedural merit and not necessarily the details of the Petition. The fact that this has been balloted already and is moving on to a Committee, that is our job to do. We...

Sen. Wetangula) : You cannot do that, Sen. Wetangula, please. (Loud consultations)

You cannot do that, Sen. Wetangula, please. (Loud consultations) November 9, 2017 SENATE DEBATES

Sen. Wetangula):On a point of order--- Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have tremendous respect for the Chair generally and this Chair in particular. I was not in any way questioning the capacity or ability or indeed the resolve of the Chair to give us direction. However, ordinarily, even when the...

Well said. However, for the time being, the reason I did not want us to prolong this discussion is because we have a very busy afternoon. Technically, any agenda that has not found its way in the Order Paper is no agenda. So, as much as we would want to...

Sen. Wetangula) : Sen. Wetangula) : Thank you Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for the directions you gave. I will abide by what you said. That actually settles what we used to do in the past where we used to come and discuss Bills when they started in the National Assembly...

this matter and not over---(Sen. Wetangula spoke off-record) Order, Senator! That is not a dignified way of prosecuting your agenda. I will insist that we will not entertain anything that can bring this House into disrepute when I am on this Chair. We can do the other things in the...

On a point of order Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Is it on a different issue?

No, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. No, Senate Majority Leader. You should lead by example. When the Chair makes a directive, the number one supporter and enforcer should be the Majority Leader followed by the Minority Leader, in that order. Let us leave this matter. On that note, are we through...

Thank you Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for the directions you gave. I will abide by what you said. That actually settles what we used to do in the past where we used to come and discuss Bills when they started in the National Assembly and we had a quarrel with...

Order, Senators.

Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., you are the one who has been making the loudest noise. I am saying that with a light touch because Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., is my friend. NOTICE OF MOTION ESTABLISHMENT OF A JOINT PARLIAMENTARY SELECT COMMITTEE ON ELECTION OF MEMBERS TO EALA November 9, 2017...

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Sen. Wetangula) : Sen. Wetangula) : Actually it is Sitswila Amos Wako in that order. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I just want to support the submission by Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. by offering more legal arguments. Article 202 of the Constitution states that: “ (1) Revenue raised nationally shall be...

Let us proceed. Senate Minority Leader, you have heard me clearly. Next time I will not be very kind. That should act as a notice to you.Hon. Senators, we were on notices of Motions. Senate Majority Leader! NOTICE OF MOTION ALTERATION OF THE SENATE CALENDAR

Sen. Wetangula) : Sen. Wetangula, do not involve me in your activities with the Senate Majority Leader. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Wetangula) : That is fine, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. You will make a ruling, in any case, I believe. I want to advise that urgent as this matter...

Sen. Wetangula, do not involve me in your activities with the Senate Majority Leader. The Senate Minority Leader ( Sen. Wetangula) : Sen. Wetangula) : Wait a minute, Senate Majority Leader because I will call upon you to respond. You need to help us because the business that we have...

Sen. Wetangula) :No, let us be procedural. On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. (Sen. Murkomen walked to the Dispatch Box)

Senate Majority Leader, just be patient. Let us hear

Sen. Wetangula) : Order, Senator! It will do you a lot of good to prosecute your issue. Leave the Chair completely out of this. Absolutely. You know I have tremendous respect for the Chair. On a point of order!

Sen. Wetangula, is it on a different issue? November 8, 2017 SENATE DEBATES

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, you heard those perverted polemics from the Majority Leader. The problem of appearing to know too much is that you end up looking like you know very little.Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we are not here in competition on any issue. I am not interested in competing...

Order! You refer to Sen. Murkomen as either the Majority Leader or as Sen. Murkomen. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Sen. Murkomen gets carried away with exuberance of reckless youth and starts making unhelpful statements that will only pull him away from the endearment of his colleagues. He is a very...

So, what is your point of order? Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the point is, and I have heard you also speak, reading between the lines, of course, we can tell what is in your mind.

You cannot read my mind. Mr. Deputy Speaker, I did not say I read, I said I can tell.

Order, Senator! It will do you a lot of good to prosecute your issue. Leave the Chair completely out of this. Absolutely. You know I have tremendous respect for the Chair.

Order, Senator! We will do things differently. Prosecute your issue. Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I have tremendous respect for the Chair. In any case, when you were the Leader of Majority, you conducted yourself differently. I do not want to drag you into that. I am sorry about that. I...

Here she is! Here she is! Okay, she has come in. I had not seen her. I am sure she may also have received a casual mention. She is a senior Member of one of our major parties. She should be the last person to engage in any opportunistic moves...

All right. We are making good progress. Very shortly, we will find a way out of this thing. As I said once more, we owe this nation a duty. I want to request a few more people to make their points very brief and kindly restrict yourselves to the issues...

Thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I stand as an elder and a friend. From the argument, it looks there is a bit of confusion as to the legality of the Leader of Minority. However, he has clarified. In view of that clarification--- I also heard on the...

Thank you, Sen. Haji. That is very useful. That is the spirit that should inform us, especially, when we are doing this kind of work. When we are out there politicking, we can use our various styles. However, we cannot look as if we are not serious when we are...

from Sen. George Khaniri, Senator for Vihiga, who is also my age mate.

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I want to add my voice to the de facto Leader of Minority side, Sen. Wetangula. We recognise him. For Sen. Murkomen’s information, we recognise Sen. Wetangula as our de facto leader. This House has rules and procedures. We have practices and traditions. We...

Now, I think we are getting somewhere. Since almost everybody wants to talk, I will limit the debate to one minute, specifically. I will hear Sen. Cheruiyot and then Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr., then we will see how to push this agenda forward. Does Sen. Pareno want to talk? She...

Hon. Wetangula Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker for giving me a chance to contribute to this Motion. First, allow me to congratulate the four Hon. Members who have been appointed to the Chairperson’s Panel. Three are old timers in this House because they were in the last Parliament. I am...