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Sen. Wetangula Thank you, Senators. Pursuant to Standing order 232--- I think I made a reference to the wrong one earlier. It is Standing Order No. 232 and the earlier one was Standing Order 231. Pursuant to Standing Order 232 (1) the Petition stands committed to the Standing Committee on...

Sen. Wetangula No, Madam Temporary Speaker; I was not there. However, I just wanted to remind our colleagues that where the Standing Orders may fall short, I have always felt that traditions have also guided us as a House, and it is one of the considerations. Therefore, as the Senate...

Sen. Wetangula Madam Temporary Speaker, I do not intend to initiate a debate. Yesterday, when this matter came up before this House, I approached the Chair and said quite categorically that it is in bad faith for anybody to prosecute a case of Kisii County when I am already representing...

It is exactly the very explanation I was telling the Senator that outside the Standing Orders, we can negotiate. So, let us not prosecute--- Sen. Wetangula Madam Temporary Speaker, if you hear me, you will understand me. The Standing Orders are not meant to create disharmony between us, but for...

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Sen. Wetangula: Sen. Wetangula, not all interest will be accommodated because our time is finite. Otherwise, we will talk until come--- Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I had flagged interest in this matter.

Sen. Wetangula, not all interest will be accommodated because our time is finite. Otherwise, we will talk until come--- Sen. Wetangula Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, now that I am facing the microphone-- -

Okay, you can get away with it for now. You have two minutes. Sen. Wetangula Now, the directive stands. Sen. Ndwiga, there is nothing to canvass. I will only amend the directive a bit in light of part of what Sen. Wetangula has said; to add that perhaps the enormity...

Now, the directive stands. Sen. Ndwiga, there is nothing to canvass. I will only amend the directive a bit in light of part of what Sen. Wetangula has said; to add that perhaps the enormity of the matter requires a little more time. I direct that you take a bit...

Order, Senator for Makueni County. Have you taken tea today? You seem to be overly interested in tea and tea matters. (Sen. Ndwiga stood up in his place) Sen. Ndwiga, are you on a point of order?

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. While I appreciate what the Senator for Bungoma County has said, we have just been through The Tea Bill (Senate Bills No. 36 of 2018) and as a Committee, we already know that you cannot legislate in the counties for taxes....

It is so ordered. Two weeks, if you are comfortable. It was for your comfort that we needed to extend the time. If you are comfortable with two weeks, it is so ordered. What is out of order, Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.?

Sen. Wetangulathinking and it is available to everybody. We will deal with the matter in accordance with the law.As the Senator for Bungoma County, this is the second petition coming to this House. In the previous Parliament, we had an acrimonious and protracted petition that this House dealt with in...

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Omanga, you cannot have a point of order when the Chair is on his feet. Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing Order No.232 (1) , the Petition stands committed to the Standing Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations. In terms of Standing Order No.232 (2) , the Committee is required,...

Sen. Wetangula, I hope it is a point of order. Sen. Wetangula Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

So, what is out of order? Sen. Wetangula Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, while it is not within my capacity to challenge any direction and ruling from the Chair, listening to the Petition, most of the allegations and prayers are on matters of financial probity and financial management. I thought that...

I have looked at the contents of the Petition carefully. There are many allegations ranging from human resource issues, the relationship between the executive and the County Public Service Board (CPSB) and issues of procurement and finance and so on and so forth. So, it is not strictly financial- related...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it was about Sen. Orengo who was walking carelessly when you were on your feet.

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Sen. Wetangula Very well. Pursuant to Standing Order No.231, I shall now allow comments, observations or clarifications in relation to the Petition for not more than 30 minutes.

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Sen. Wetangula On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. You are dead right in strict compliance with the Standing Orders. However, in practical terms, it is very difficult. There are certain issues and happenings that will be so important but may not fall within the framework of the Standing...

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Thank you very much, my Senator. It is true that St. Mary's Sosio Secondary School is a school in my neighbourhood. It is a walking distance from my home to the school. I welcome them to the Senate. (Applause) June 4, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 3

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I join you and the Senator for Bungoma County in congratulating St. Mary's Sosio Secondary School for visiting the ‘upper’ House. Here is where serious business is discussed. As they may be aware, we have so many senior counsel in this House. Everything here happens for the...

Sen. Wetangula Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for allowing me to add my voice to the Petition against the Kenya School of Law. I want to congratulate Sen. Cherargei, the Chairperson of the Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights, for bringing this Petition to this House. I support...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for allowing me to add my voice to the Petition against the Kenya School of Law. I want to congratulate Sen. Cherargei, the Chairperson of the Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights, for bringing this Petition to this House. I support this Petition...

I know that the Senator of Narok County is eager to welcome the students from Narok. I will give him the opportunity to do that before I give the opportunity to the Senate Minority Leader,

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to welcome the students from Maasai Girls Secondary School to this great House. Last Saturday, we hosted the 56th Madaraka Day celebration in Narok and the students from Maasai Girls Secondary School played a big role on that day. I am happy that...

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Sen. Wetangula What is your point of order, Sen. Wetangula?

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Sen. Wetangula Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I will be very brief. I keenly listen to the debate in this House. Sen. Mugo speaks in a soft voice but she is very informative. She has reminded us that mental disorder is a disease just like any other. The protestations by Sen....

Are the numbers the same? Sen. Wetangula: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am concluding. In terms of semantics, Sen. M. Kajwang’ said that; ‘you will notice’. Noticing is subjective. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, if Sen. M. Kajwang’ wants to stand and remain on the HANSARD, he has to tell this...

Sen. M. Kajwang’, I hope you have noted. Sen. Wetangula is asking you to state when you carried the census, the methodology and the outcome.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I will be very brief. I keenly listen to the debate in this House. Sen. Mugo speaks in a soft voice but she is very informative. She has reminded us that mental disorder is a disease just like any other. The protestations by Sen. Wetangula and...

Order, Sen. Cheruiyot.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am concluding. In terms of semantics, Sen. M. Kajwang’ said that; ‘you will notice’. Noticing is subjective.

Sen. Wetangula On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

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Sen. Wetangula Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to make my contribution on this important Bill on mental health. I congratulate Sen. Kasanga for thinking wisely about the same. This particular Bill provides for an effective framework that will support awareness, treatment, prevention, care and human...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to make my contribution on this important Bill on mental health. I congratulate Sen. Kasanga for thinking wisely about the same. This particular Bill provides for an effective framework that will support awareness, treatment, prevention, care and human rights for...

I am also happy that there is a clause that protects the property of mentally ill patients. I know of families that have not given these patients their due share. Instead, they share the properties and say that they will use what was meant for the mentally ill patients to...

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Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would want to make some comments on that Petition and thank the petitioners for bringing that Petition to the right House. After the fireball in the country in 2007, yours truly here and seven others; the late Sen. Mutula Kilonzo, hon. Martha Karua, Prof....

Sen. Wetangula On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, given that there is not a single petition in this House and the previous House that any Committee has ever brought a report within 60 days as the Standing Orders envisage and; given the magnitude and importance of this Petition – can we, as a...

Sen. Wetangula Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. My distinguished colleague from Nairobi County, who is my nephew, has a point that is only clever by half. He has a point, but we must appreciate that the Petitioners feel that it is only in this House where they can get justice....

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Sen. Wetangula Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I thank you for the minute to contribute on this matter. Sometimes, I feel sad and sorry for the young Kenyans who were born in rural areas, and deserve, as Article 43---. An hon. Senator: On a point of order. (Sen. Kang’ata approached the...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I want to join Sen. M. Kajwang‘ and point out to my distinguished learned junior that he is a known lawyer in this country and he knows that Standing Order No. 98 does not operate in a vacuum. In fact, I want to refer...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, you can feel the anger that is being exhibited by the distinguished Senator for Mandera County. The Chairperson of the Committee on Education must, in response to Sen. Dullo‟s Statement, bring very clear answers to this House. Why is the Ministry of Education engaged in...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, I join you in welcoming the students from Bomet and from Muindi Mbingu Secondary School. I had an opportunity to meet them at the entrance of the Senate. I took a group picture with them and they are very pleasant young men. I encourage all...

Sen. Wetangula Sen. (Dr.) Musuruve, I give you 30 seconds. May 14, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 23 Sen. Wetangula with crude weapons, 50 meters from the police station. Nobody came to the rescue of the watchmen and nobody has given a credible explanation.These killings have moved to Matungu where if you...

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Sen. Wetangula Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I beg to second. I associate myself fully with the sentiments and submissions of the Chairperson of the Committee on Finance, Commerce and Budget to which I am a Member. This House has many businesses to deal with. However, this is one single...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, now that “the mountain” is tranquil, I will go on. This Bill as passed by the National Assembly must be passed in this House in an extremely qualified manner; qualified to the extent that at Third Reading, we must carry out major amendments to give...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, I suspect that the distinguished Senator for Kakamega County was part of “the mountain group” that was engaged in active discussion when I started my contribution. (Laughter) April 30, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 9 Sen. WetangulaFor the guidance of my distinguished colleague from Kakamega who is...