Moses Masika Wetangula

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Sen. Wetangula On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, some of the Members of these two Committees are in the Ad hoc Committee on Impeachment of the Governor of Taita/Taveta County. Therefore, I request that in your discretion, you make it 14 days, so that they can play around the 14 days.

Sen. Wetangula I assume that you are also on your point of order, which you had requested.

Sen. Wetangula Thank you for those great statements, Sen. M. Kajwang’, and also thank you for understanding that the context determined that we step down your Statement and subsume it to the greater issue of what we are doing today. Thank you so much for being vigilant and proactive. Yes,...

I accordingly direct that a letter be issued tomorrow in the terms suggested by Sen. Wetangula.

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Sen. Wetangula Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I commend Sen. Khaniri for bringing this Statement. What happened in Chepturo Village, in Nandi County last week is a matter of national shame. The Governor of Nandi County, who is our former colleague in this House in the last Senate, has issued a...

Sen. Wetangula On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, my distinguished colleague and son from Kakamega did not get me right. I said that some leaders went there, but others do not have to go there to be part of the solution. I never said that it was wrong for anybody to go...

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Sen. WetangulaThank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I also wish to commend the Senator for Kericho for bringing this important Motion in which we are celebrating our own sons and daughters.

Sen. Mwaura, you are not on record.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I second. I endorse the Motion as moved by Sen. Wetangula. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (Resumption of debate on Motion)

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, in conclusion, some counties are trying their best in improving sports facilities. Kakamega County, for example, has done a good job at Bukhungu Stadium. We must give them the credit. I have played football there and it is a very good stadium. Narok County too has...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, Eldoret Stadium should have been one of the best stadia in this country. I am very happy to report here about Nandi County. Eliud Kipchoge is working with Governor Sang’ who was the Senator here, on how to improve Kipchoge Stadium in Nandi County. It is...

(Laughter) October 15, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 55 Sen. WetangulaThere is no problem having Kenyan athletes move to other nations and have dual citizenship. We thank God that currently there is dual citizenship. However, we must really look at what we are doing to build our sports because Kenya has been...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. This is a very important Motion. I want to appreciate Sen. Cheruiyot for having thought through to come and honour these great Kenyans. As Nelson Mandela said, everyone can rise above the circumstances and achieve success if they are dedicated to and are passionate...

Sen. Wetangulahim because he comes from my village and county. He is one of the young people who have said no to anything that brings them down.It is a high time for us to respect the people who have sacrificed their time, talents and made this country proud. We need...

Yes. Thank you for reminding me. We simply took the best Kenyans for the races and they won. There was a particular point in time when I thought that the Ethiopians would beat us because they are also good at marathons. We have people like Abebe Bikila, Haile Gebrselassie and...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity to contribute to this Motion. I support and thank Sen. Cheruiyot for bringing it because it is a very important for us to debate it. In a very long time when Eliud Kipchoge won that race, the whole country...

Kindly proceed, Sen. (Prof.) Kamar. October 15, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 61

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There is no problem having Kenyan athletes move to other nations and have dual citizenship. We thank God that currently there is dual citizenship. However, we must really look at what we are doing to build our sports because Kenya has been respected for sports. You can imagine that it...

country completely because our future lies on our youth. We need to give them more avenues than just books and academic qualifications.Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I support.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity. I rise to support this Motion by the Senator for Kericho, Sen. Cheruiyot. I take this opportunity to congratulate our athletes who performed in the recent games. We are proud of Eliud Kipchoge and Hellen Obiri. On Saturday, everybody...

produce money. I do not think that is the way forward and that is how we want to run this nation. Just as the national Government looks for money by taxing people, counties should do the same. In the Rift Valley, for example, athletics is one of the areas of...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for allowing me to add my voice to this important Motion. I also congratulate Sen. Cheruiyot for coming up with this important and relevant Motion. We were all motivated during the weekend when Eliud Kipchoge united the entire nation in less than two hours....

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, it is unfortunate that many Kenyans have only known him after this very outstanding performance. He has been performing and winning. However, many of us Kenyans have even not known, not even been talking about him or even recognized his efforts. Now that the entire world...

him because he comes from my village and county. He is one of the young people who have said no to anything that brings them down.It is a high time for us to respect the people who have sacrificed their time, talents and made this country proud. We need to...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I have a plethora of requests from colleagues who would have wanted to contribute to this Motion, but given that we went late into the evening, for one reason or the other, they were not able to be here till late. Under Standing Order...

Hon. Senators, the matter does not affect counties. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (Debate on the Motion was adjourned) October 15, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 67 ADJOURNMENT

Hon. Senators, it is now 7.10

Sen. Wetangula Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. The Public Finance Management Act is very clear that a public entity cannot procure for goods or services unless it has a budget and money for it in its account. When we are told that people have supplied goods and services to...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, she was the hairdresser of the Cabinet Secretary at the time. But the young person on the streets who is supplying envelopes, October 9, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 4 Sen. Wetangulaflowers, paper, milk and groceries is never paid. I urge the Committee that you are...

Sen. Wetangula Absolutely, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. This particular fraudster happened to be a hairdresser. I never said hairdressers are fraudsters. It was a fraudster who was a hairdresser. (Laughter)

Sen. WetangulaMr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Committee that you are a going to give this---

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, as I conclude, I remind my distinguished colleague the ‘tycoon of Nyeri’ that Chinua Achebe said that when bones are mentioned in a proverb, old people feel fidgety and uncomfortable. I urge that suppliers to Government be paid. The Committee to which you are...

Sen. Wetangula Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Did I hear the Senator for Laikipia say that production of sugar in this country is mechanized? I support this report.

Sen. Wetangula That is why I said ‘did I hear’ because I was not sure. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, this is a good and important Report. It takes us back to what we were debating yesterday. The reckless amalgamation of all crop and industrial statutes into one called Agriculture and...

Sen. Wetangulataken and put on the forest preservation board. How can we do such a thing? It is entrenchment of impunity.Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I was shocked to read about the gazzettement of a person as a member of the Forest Preservation Board. This person has consolidated an entire industry...

October 9, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 30 Sen. Wetangula taken and put on the forest preservation board. How can we do such a thing? It is entrenchment of impunity.Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I was shocked to read about the gazzettement of a person as a member of the Forest Preservation Board....

Two minutes. Sen. Wetangula What is the solution? Sen. Kasanga wants to have committees to look after forests. The first port of call is that the national Government should take the bold step of fencing off all existing forests today, so that we turn them into no-go zones to protect...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would like to inform the lady Senator, who is a good debater that I respect so much, that there are two categories of forests. We have Government forests that are gazzetted as Government forests and have no settlements in them. Those are the...

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Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, I congratulate Sen. Cheruiyot for his innovative way of bringing issues to this Floor and in particular championing the interests of tea farmers. I come from a county that has been designated as a tea-growing area right from Independence. The tea sector is in a...

Sen. Wetangula He is mobilising Members, but he must do so with--- His continuous movements are like a gadfly flying in your face all the time if you have ever experienced that. The AFA Act purported to amalgamate all agricultural existing laws into one creating a monopoly of sorts and...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, I never said that. I said in relative terms what each sector contributes to the economy and what we require the Government to pay focus on. Kenya is known to have huge mineral deposits, but because over the period inadequate attention has been paid to...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is our duty to be in this House. Therefore, when Senators enter this House, they are not making history. (Laughter)

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, our level of appreciating things is upside down. October 8, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 10

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have the greatest respect for the Deputy Speaker, my distinguished learned junior, who in part of his life has worked with me in the same law firm. I was not talking about Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki. If any insinuation in the fertile mind of the...

Sen. WetangulaIn those good old days, I used to go to a small town called Ortum, in West Pokot, where my elder brother was teaching in a school. Next to Ortum was a River called Murunyi, which had a heavy flow of clean water. We would walk into the river...

Sen. Wetangula On a point of information, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Wetangula Ningependa kumuarifu Seneta wa Mji mkuu wa Nairobi kwamba katika Bunge la Kaunti ya Mji mkuu wa Nairobi, chama anacho wakilisha hapa Seneti kina wingi wa waakilishi wadi kupindukia. Kwa Kiingereza, naweza kusema kuwa wako na super majority. Wao ndio wanaopitisha miswada ya kulipisha wafanye biashara na wachuuzi...

Sen. Wetangula Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I can hear some cynical laughter next to you, which may amount to a private nuisance. I rise to support this Bill because it is supposed to bring order to an otherwise informal sector that is subjected to constant harassment and disruption by...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, the distinguished tycoon from Nyeri, who is my good friend, is simply arguing. He has not raised a point of order. I will repeat what I said for avoidance of doubt. I said that there was a noble patriotic policy at Independence to wrestle trade...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, I agree with my friend that Hon. (Dr.) Kiano handed over business to Africans. Unfortunately, those Africans were from one tribe. That is the point I am making. I have not named any tribe. My friend is belabouring under the good old saying that ‘when...

Sen. Wetangula Indeed!

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, in fact, if you listen to me---

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, I will stick to the Bill, but the record must be very clear. You have been listening to me as well, and I did not mention a tribe. I said that we Africanized trade and the Minister then handed businesses to Africans. Unfortunately, those Africans...

Sen. WetangulaWhat is shocking is not that this vehicle slipped into the sea but the manner in which even the managers of the Kenya Ferry Services (KFS) have responded. They have been very economical with facts and the truth. Kenyans are left wondering whether the thousands of Kenyans - in...

It is over 100,000 people daily. Sen. Wetangulathe money is left with the national Government. Therefore, we do not expect the county government to run the Navy, the Maritime Rescue and Marine Services because they do not have the money.The national Government, therefore, stands squarely responsible. They must admit liability,...

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Sen. Wetangula Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I belong to the Committee that she is probably directing the question to, if it is a matter of security. However, if it is an issue to do with transport, it belongs to another Committee. Mr. Speaker, Sir, as I support her Statement,...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, the questioner is already running out of the chamber. Although you have not said so, may I join you in receiving the distinguished young Senator from Lamu County back to the House. We have not seen him for many months. In fact, the last time...

Sen. Wetangula Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. This is a Bill that Sen. (Dr.) Zani has brought to give meaning and effect to Article 53 of our Constitution, which is very clear in its wording. It states that:- October 1, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 9 Sen. Wetangula“Every child has the right––...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, I will invite the distinguished Senator for Kericho to read a book called The Heart of the Matter by Graham Greene, where there is a bishop who tells a trader that when people are shaken and are in trouble, they do not come for me;...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, the more they try to dispute what I am saying, the more they prove it. She has said that we do not have enough faith and that is exactly what I meant. Jesus did miracles such as feeding 5,000 people with five loaves and two...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, even her own colleagues on the Jubilee side look horrified with what she has said because it is not true. I invite my distinguished friend and colleague, Sen. Mugo, to read a book by Chinua Achebe called The Trouble With Nigeria. In that book, he...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, I do not want to engage in altercations on an issue that is not an issue. What is free education? When we were going to school, free education meant that when you joined Standard One, you were given a slate and a slate pencil. You...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is obvious even from where you are that my distinguished colleague does not believe what she is arguing because it happens. Activity fees, lunch fees, water, books and uniform fees are paid by parents. Academies are for rich people, but I am talking about...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, I appreciate the concerns by the Senator for Nairobi, Senator for Laikipia and my distinguished colleague, Sen. Mugo. This is a matter that the Committee needs to look into. Pronouncement of policy and implementation of policy is not one and the same thing. I do...

Sen. Wetangula Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The Petition before the House is very clear. Whoever is petitioning also understands and appreciates that conservation of water catchment areas is necessary. He is not asking about being taken back to the forest, but about investigating and finding a resettlement solution. Mr....

Sen. Wetangula Land is owned by animals and two individuals.

Sen. Wetangula Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Listening to the Senate Majority Leader presenting the Petition, I did not hear him say that the Technical Committee visited the areas where the dams are being constructed to find out whether the issues at hand are issues that the population have anything...

Sen. Wetangula Madam Temporary Speaker, I was quoting and it is allowed in the Standing Orders.

Sen. Wetangula Hii itafanywa, I am quoting what somebody said--- (Laughter) September 26, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 15 Sen. Wetangula“Hii itafanyika, hii itazinduliwa”, that is allowed under our Standing Orders.

Sen. Wetangula Madam Temporary Speaker, it is good to know that there also some unfavoured children in the favored regions. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Orengo) : On a point of information, Madam Temporary Speaker.

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Sen. Wetangula Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Allow me to join you in welcoming the distinguished colleagues from ICGLR. The ICGLR has been a very critical player in conflict resolution in the Great Lakes Region. Yours truly here was deeply involved in the setting up of the Secretariat of the...

Sen. Wetangula Mr. Speaker, Sir, I support the sentiments of the distinguished Senator for Vihiga. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the case of Annette and her demise is an indictment to the health institutions of this country. This is one case that has been highlighted because she had a September 25, 2019...

Sen. Wetangula On a point of order, Mr. Speaker Sir. Is it in order for the Senate Majority Leader, who is speaking very well on the excesses of the Executive, to arrogate himself the same excess by purporting to give a license to Sen. Dullo and Sen. Halake to speak...

Sen. Wetangula Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Allow me to welcome the Senate Majority Leader back to the House. He should know that he was treated as a VIP because he has an insurance cover; he is the Senate Majority Leader and a Senator. Normally, ordinary people do not get...