James Orengo

Sen. Orengo) : Sen. Orengo) :business of this House. Once an Order is called out, we should conclude it before the Chair can intervene to read a Message or welcome people to this Chamber. For example, if we are on Messages--- June 13, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 5

business of this House. Once an Order is called out, we should conclude it before the Chair can intervene to read a Message or welcome people to this Chamber. For example, if we are on Messages---

Order, Sen. Orengo! You need to remember Standing Order No.1. When we have 20 schools lined up, we should not have students walk in and out before being recognised. We have people queuing and that is okay. Let us have Sen. Cherargei James Kiprotich.

Madam Temporary Speaker, maybe my name changed to James but I am Samson. Saul also changed his name to Paul on the way to Damascus---

Sorry. This is the Senator for Nandi County, Sen. Cherargei Samson Kiprotich.

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I support this Petition which might be directed to my Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights. There are allegations of corruption, human resource and governance issues. I agree with my colleagues that if we are not careful, we might have a scenario of...

Asante, Bi. Spika wa Muda, kunipa fursa hii kuchangia Petition iliyoletwa hapa. Ni jambo la kusikitisha kwa sababu kuna malalamiko kuhusu ufisadi na ukosefu wa kazi katika kaunti 47. Tusipochunga, tutakuwa na petitions 47 hapa. Naunga mkono hii Petition iliyoletwa hapa kwa sababu swala hili linafaa kutatuliwa. Kule Kwale, kila...

Sen. Orengo) : Order, Senators! Sen. Poghisio, I had given you one minute and you only have 15 seconds left. We must close this debate because I was trying to avoid discussing ourselves. We said that if there is a proposal that is coming forward, let us discuss it outside...

Sen. Orengo) : Sen. Orengo) : Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I stand to support the Statement by Senator for Nandi, Sen. Cherargei. In doing so, I state that I had a similar (Laughter) June 13, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 19

Sen. Cherargei. Can you withdraw those remarks?

Madam Temporary Speaker, I have listened keenly and I was following the proceedings from the office. So that everyone goes home happy and excited, I withdraw and apologize.

Madam Temporary Speaker, I listened to that request for a Statement very carefully. It is a Statement that has to do with an institution in the county represented by the Speaker on the Chair. The Statement has been brought by the Senator for Nandi County. The Vice Chancellor of Eldoret...

Sen. Orengo): Sen. Orengo, you have done well expect for the last part. You said it is either you or the lady to carry the day. It is neither of you but the rules that we have to abide with. I know Sen. Orengo is one of the most seasoned...

What is your understanding of the Chair being on his feet? The Senate Minority Leader ( Sen. Orengo) : Sen. Orengo) : What is it, Sen. Shiyonga?

Sen. Orengo) : Order. You are complicating matters for Sen. Orengo by rising on points of order. He had gotten away with it and the matter

Sen. Orengo, you have done well expect for the last part. You said it is either you or the lady to carry the day. It is neither of you but the rules that we have to abide with. I know Sen. Orengo is one of the most seasoned parliamentarians. Therefore,...

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I think you are letting Sen. Orengo get away with a cheeky statement he has made. The Chair’s position is the most elevated in the House. In a cheeky manner, Sen. Orengo said he was not sure whether the Chair was...

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

What is it, Sen. Shiyonga?

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, you should allow them to demonstrate what they are talking about. (Laughter)

Order. You are complicating matters for Sen. Orengo by rising on points of order. He had gotten away with it and the matter June 12, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 10

Sen. Orengo) : Thank you, Senator. We will finally hear from the Senator of West Pokot, Sen. Poghisio. Madam Temporary Speaker, I also want to join my colleagues in expressing solidarity with the distinguished Senator for Lamu County. The experience that he underwent was unfortunate and tragic, and we wish...

Sen. Orengo) : Sen. Orengo) :that, indeed, these people were pursuing a higher road of leadership and were intended in leaving a legacy.Talking about legacy, I have made up my mind as the Senate Majority Leader. I will not comprise for political expediency, anything that touches on the Senate and...

Sen. Orengo):In our usual tradition of receiving and welcoming visitors to Parliament, I extend a warm welcome to them. On behalf of the Senate and my own behalf, I welcome and wish them a fruitful visit.I thank you. Madam Temporary Speaker, allow me to Second. I do not have a...

amendments by the National Assembly are mischievous and are without a constitutional basis.Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. must be commended because when he was crafting this Bill, he followed the constitutional path on how to suspend a county government. All that is laid out in the Constitution just like the question...

Sen. Orengo): Sen. Orengo):I am very happy that throughout this year, we have not had any strikes and unrest among the students from the University of Eldoret, unlike in the other years. I congratulate them for that. This must be the right leadership at the right time. I encourage them...

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Sen. Orengo) : Sen. Orengo) :to the commission from the counties should be considered. There should also be inclusion of programmes on peace in the counties as already indicated. We already have peace committees in existence.As usual, Sen. Kwamboka, was fighting for the youth. She said the way this Bill...

player, in peace building, to be exclusively nominated by the National Assembly and allowed the President to make the appointment.In this Bill, the process of appointment is not inclusive for there is no people participation. Clause 11 states that the selection panel shall consist of various organisations such as religious...

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Some of us have seen political skirmishes for so long that we do not want to see it happen again.It looks like the Post-Election Violence of 2007/2008 is coming all over again if we are not very careful. We need to stand together now to go through the process of...

Very Well. I do not see any other request. I now call upon the Mover to reply.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, in reply, I would like to appreciate all the Senators who have given their thoughts and made very good contributions to improve this Bill. I would like to appreciate; Sen. (Rev.) Waqo, Sen. (Dr.) Musuruve, Sen. Farhiya, Sen. Madzayo, Sen. Halake, Sen. Were, Sen. Sakaja, Sen....

Sen. Orengo):As I sent my condolences, we wish the family peace and strength at this difficult time as they mourn the patriarch of the family. May God rest his soul in eternal peace. Rest in peace, comrade. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I also join the distinguished Senator for Bungoma County in...

Hon. Oduya Oprong‘ did not say anything in Machakos. When he came to Parliament that afternoon, he rose on a point of order, like the distinguished Senator for Bungoma rose today, and castigated the President and the Vice President for embarrassing the MPs by calling upon them to contribute to...

I thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for the opportunity. Let me take this opportunity to thank my elder brother, the Senator for Bungoma, for bringing this issue on the Floor of the House, so that we eulogize our departed former colleague. I join him, on my own behalf and on...

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Sen. Orengo) : Sen. Orengo) :I am also happy that pursuant to the negotiations, there was give and take considering the ideas that came from both Houses. I am happy that most of the amendments that we proposed as a Senate were adopted. This is an appreciation of the fact...

Go ahead and inform him. The Senate Minority Leader ( Sen. Orengo) :I am happy that hon. Mbadi and hon. Duale are sitting in the Mediation Committee. I send you, Madam Temporary Speaker, I wanted to inform the distinguished Senator for Makueni that it is not the size of the...

Sen. Orengo) : Sen. Orengo) :granted but there will be a time that it will be assumed that even on account of the Division of Revenue Bill, our role is merely to pass or approve without amendment, whatever comes from the National Assembly.Since Article 10 requires us to comply with...

Sen. Orengo) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me this chance. This matter is sacrosanct and I would want my view to be reflected on it. Article 2 (4) of our Constitution states that:- ‗Any law, including customary law, that is inconsistent with this Constitution is void to...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to inform Sen. Orengo and the House that the Senate Business Committee agreed that the Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights will lead the process of auditing all the legislations. The Senior Counsel has gone ahead of us and provided the necessary...

Sen. Orengo) : Next Order! Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, let me also join you and my colleagues in welcoming the various visitors and guests that we have in the Senate today. More particularly, if I start in the order in which you welcomed the various teams that are in the...

general Standing Orders and other instruments that had been supplied by the authorities. They were very well organized, and I want to recognize that.I also wish to welcome the students‟ delegations from the three counties, with a special mention of Starehe Boys Centre. I mention Starehe Boys Centre because my...

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Sen. Orengo) : Sen. Orengo) :place to deal with some of these issues. Since my distinguished Chairperson of the Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights is here, I will talk to him so that we find out whether there are more innovative tools to apply in dealing with...