James Orengo

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Sen. OrengoAn hon. Senator: Nobody! (Laughter)

Sen. Orengo Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I seek guidance from the Chair in relation to this matter because my worry is that the decision to have this matter discussed without giving us some broad outlines on how the Chair arrived at this decision, may be, in the future, abused....

Sen. Orengo Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Senate Majority Leader said that he has stopped all hon. Senators from flying to The Hague. They intended to go, but they have been stopped. Some of them are kind of captive, they are not listening. (Laughter)

Sen. Orengo Mr. Speaker, Sir, in order not to take away what I was saying, I withdraw those remarks and apologise, if that will help Sen. Murkomen. But I know he will end up there anyway. So, giving him a little joy does not hurt. (Laughter)An

Sen. Orengo Mr. Speaker, Sir, the way the Motion has been framed, for example, the first resolution that he wants us to make is:- “To urge the Government to immediately take appropriate steps necessary to deal with this matter for the good and in the best interests of the country;”...

Sen. Orengo No, I am just urging---

Sen. Orengo Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am just saying on the face of it. I would wish that another Senate and another Speaker making a similar decision will be able to know the basis of your decision by saying what we can categorise as urgent and what is exceptional business...

Sen. Orengo Mr. Speaker, Sir, I specifically heard the Chair, at the conclusion of the submission of my brother, Sen. Murkomen; you said “well done.” But when I finished, you just looked at me--- (Laughter)

Sen. Orengo I qualified it!

Sen. Orengo Order, Senator! Definitely, you could not be giving any other opinion apart from your own.

What is it, Sen. Orengo!

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Sen. Orengo Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Sen. Orengo seems to know many things, including contractual relationships between me and my clients. Thank you for protecting me. I think we should go on with this Motion because that is what has brought us here. In my view, we all know...

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Mr. Speaker, Sir, somebody should be shown the direction of the Chair because some of my not so digital colleagues are asking what googling is. Having said that, on a more serious note, I would like to say that at the heart of the matter, the proceedings that have began...

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Sen. Orengo(Laughter)An September 10, 2013 SENATE DEBATES Sen. Orengo becoming a banana republic, instead of being part of the international community which believes in the principle of the United Nations (UN) and knowing the court is part of the mechanisms and structures of the UN, why can we not, within...

Hon. Senators, we will have another three Members before I call upon the Mover to reply. If you become brief then we can accommodate a few more. Sen. Wako, since you have been mentioned.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for giving me this opportunity to speak on this very important Motion. We have now reduced the time to five minutes so I will try to be very fast.

I am even encouraging that you reduce to three minutes on your own.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, first, I want to send a message to the President, the Deputy President and Mr. Sang. I want to remind them that when I was the Attorney- General of the Republic, I mentioned and made a statement that, in my opinion, there was no evidence on which...

Sen. Orengo Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I seek guidance from the Chair in relation to this matter because my worry is that the decision to have this matter discussed without giving us some broad outlines on how the Chair arrived at this decision, may be, in the future, abused....

Sen. Orengo Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Senate Majority Leader said that he has stopped all hon. Senators from flying to The Hague. They intended to go, but they have been stopped. Some of them are kind of captive, they are not listening. (Laughter)

Sen. Orengo Mr. Speaker, Sir, in order not to take away what I was saying, I withdraw those remarks and apologise, if that will help Sen. Murkomen. But I know he will end up there anyway. So, giving him a little joy does not hurt. (Laughter)An

Sen. Orengo Mr. Speaker, Sir, the way the Motion has been framed, for example, the first resolution that he wants us to make is:- “To urge the Government to immediately take appropriate steps necessary to deal with this matter for the good and in the best interests of the country;”...

Sen. Orengo No, I am just urging---

Sen. Orengo Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am just saying on the face of it. I would wish that another Senate and another Speaker making a similar decision will be able to know the basis of your decision by saying what we can categorise as urgent and what is exceptional business...

Sen. Orengo Mr. Speaker, Sir, I specifically heard the Chair, at the conclusion of the submission of my brother, Sen. Murkomen; you said “well done.” But when I finished, you just looked at me--- (Laughter)

Sen. Orengo I qualified it!

Sen. Orengo Order, Senator! Definitely, you could not be giving any other opinion apart from your own.

What is it, Sen. Orengo!

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Sen. Orengo Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Sen. Orengo seems to know many things, including contractual relationships between me and my clients. Thank you for protecting me. I think we should go on with this Motion because that is what has brought us here. In my view, we all know...

(Laughter)

Mr. Speaker, Sir, somebody should be shown the direction of the Chair because some of my not so digital colleagues are asking what googling is. Having said that, on a more serious note, I would like to say that at the heart of the matter, the proceedings that have began...

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Sen. Orengo - THAT, pursuant to Standing Order 28 (4) , the Senate resolves to alter its Calendar (Regular Sessions) for the first Session for the recess to commence on 2nd August, 2013 and end on 17th September, 2013. Mr. Speaker, Sir, going by the calendar which we approved, we...

On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I also rise on a point of order, first and foremost, to associate myself with the views expressed by Sen. Orengo. It is evident that this article spells mischief and it is in bad faith. I think media houses that sent...

As one of the Senators has told me now, with the inclusion of Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Junior, the average age of this Senate is far younger than that of the National Assembly. Therefore, they cannot always abrogate themselves this luxury that they are younger, more vibrant and more dynamic. We...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I would not like to belabour the point but I do share the concerns of my colleagues who have spoken. I have a feeling that there are bigger issues to debate in this nation and something called “turf wars” is a minor footnote in this whole...

Order, Senators. The issues raised by Sen. Orengo, Sen. Hassan and Sen. (Prof.) Anyang’-Nyong’o are very important. We must all remember that from the beginning since we started the Senate, this House has pronounced itself publicly in support of the media. Indeed, even where the media is hosted in this...

try their best not to be alarmist or sensational but to correctly report on issues that affect the nation and which relate to the two Houses.It is important, regarding the matter in question of CDF, to reiterate that this House is very clear that the CDF Act is existing and...

- THAT, pursuant to Standing Order 28 (4) , the Senate resolves to alter its Calendar (Regular Sessions) for the first Session for the recess to commence on 2nd August, 2013 and end on 17th September, 2013. Mr. Speaker, Sir, going by the calendar which we approved, we are supposed...

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Sen. OrengoTeller of the Noes: July 31, 2013 SENATE DEBATES Sen. Orengo we love devolution so much, we are not going to deny the county governments any money. However, what is rightfully for the counties, we will fight for it until the end using whatever means lawful and constitutional to...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, mine will be very brief. While I support the Bill, I would like to appeal to the Government, given the shortage on money on both frontiers; that is, at the county level and at the national level-- - We all know the national government has been...

I had said Sen. (Prof.) Anyang’- Nyong’o would be the last person, but I would exceptionally allow Sen. G. G. Kariuki to say something and be the last person on this issue.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, first, I want to say thank you to the entire House for passing this Bill. As I said, they need to remember all the time that we are not party to the calculation and making of this Bill that we are passing. We are just a...

Point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir!

Sen. Orengo Order, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale! I want to bring to your attention – and I thought that we had made it famous – Standing Order No.88 (5) which reads:- “It shall be out of order for a Senator to criticize or call to question, the proceedings in the National...

Sen. OrengoMothers’ milk is best!

Sen. Orengo Madam Temporary Speaker, as the previous contributor has said, I also want to say that I support the caveat that we support this Bill on the basis that there are going to be amendments and it was useful and necessary to hear the Senate Leader of Majority give...

Sen. Orengo Madam Temporary Speaker, I think that if there is anybody who wants to teach me how to speak in the Chamber, you better go back to the many speakers who have been there before. You will realize that on all accounts, in terms of my contribution in this...

Sen. Orengo Madam Temporary Speaker, elections are about results. Even now when we take a division at the end of the day, you will stand up and say that you have received so many votes for the Ayes and the Noes have so many votes. The IEBC also is required...

Sen. Orengo Madam Temporary Speaker, let me finish this by saying that it is no longer in doubt that the IEBC has said that the difference between the Presidential election votes and those that were cast for Governors is a whopping 1.7 million votes. If that is the truth, it...

Sen. Orengo Madam Temporary Speaker, let me just finish this point by giving you one fact which you can take to the bank for free. There was one particular ballot book, which was only used by one person in Kenya, Mwai Kibaki, the former President of the Republic of Kenya,...

Sen. Orengo Order! Order! I think that what Sen. Orengo wanted was for you to give him and the rest of the Senators comfort; that, first, you are committed to it. I agree with you that in any case, as the Senate Majority Leader, you are in charge of the...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I will be happy to introduce the amendments as appropriate, but going by the tradition, which has been set by this House in the last few weeks, especially last week when I lost a battle on a different issue, I think that it is only appropriate that...

Sen. Orengomy wishes are being taken care of. I do not want to be a Member of this Committee. Talking about the Motion, before we move to formalize or to codify harambee, we have to ask ourselves; what was the purpose of harambee from the word go? What was the...

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Sen. Orengo On a point of information, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Orengo On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I thought Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale had become the Speaker. I just rose when he called me, which was highly out of order. I rise on a point of order to give information. Indeed it is true that in the Parliament...

Sen. Orengo On a point of information, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Orengo On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I thought Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale had become the Speaker. I just rose when he called me, which was highly out of order. I rise on a point of order to give information. Indeed it is true that in the Parliament...