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Sen. Orengo Mr. Chairman, indeed, the Vice Chairman, informed me about the statement sought. I am now looking into it and I hope that I can respond to it next week with the help of the Government Ministries concerned. I will endeavour to do it. If I fail, I will...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, God willing, I will give it on Tuesday next week. Sen. Orengo When, next week, will you give the statement?

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Sen. Orengo Is that okay, Sen. Orengo?

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Sen. Orengo Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, on behalf of the Chair of the Legal Affairs and Human Rights Committee, I undertake to respond to the issue in the next two weeks. November 12, 2013 SENATE DEBATES Sen. Orengo Ten days would be more appropriate. I would have said a week...

Sen. Orengo Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I appreciate that. This House will be adjourning this week for the county visits. That means that this entire week will be spent in the field. So, two weeks will be adequate for me.

Sen. Orengo On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. While appreciating what Sen. Orengo has requested for, I think two weeks is sufficient because it is good to have a Statement that is exhaustive. There is no need to rush and especially when the Chair, the Committee Members...

Sen. Orengo What exactly are you discussing, Sen. Murkomen? (Laughter) November 12, 2013 SENATE DEBATES

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. While appreciating what Sen. Orengo has requested for, I think two weeks is sufficient because it is good to have a Statement that is exhaustive. There is no need to rush and especially when the Chair, the Committee Members and indeed...

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. This is an extremely urgent issue because someone who is in office that deals with serious matters such as security or other institution cannot continue being in that position of privilege especially when they know that the bubble is busting. Can...

What exactly are you discussing, Sen. Murkomen?

The Statement that Sen. Orengo has just sought.

I notice you have just come in. There are two Statements that Sen. Orengo has sought. Which one are you talking about?

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Sen. Orengowe were with could do the marathon better than some of the great Kenyans who go to the London Marathon or the Boston Marathon because they ran so fast.I think the bottom line is good manners and service to the people, as you emphasized. There are some habits that...

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I thought that we were discussing order. Is it in order for Sen. Orengo to try to imagine that the President should have sacked the people whom he found in office serving together with Sen. Orengo in the Cabinet, for purposes...

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. When did my friend, Sen. James Orengo, start speaking on behalf of URP? Secondly, where is it indicated in the face, body, skin and colour of any Kenyan appointed to office, that he looks URP, TNA, UDF or ODM? I thought...

Address the Chair! Sen. Orengo Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am addressing the Chair.

I thought that you were addressing Sen. Murkomen. Sen. Orengo No, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I am just looking at him, but everything that I say is addressed the Chair. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, he told me that he actually took part in the drafting of that Coalition agreement. If...

Can we get back to the debate of the day? Sen. Orengo Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am there. What I was trying to say is that if you want these titles, then you must have good manners and comply with the Constitution. The Constitution says that in electing governments...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for giving me the opportunity to contribute to this Bill. Sometimes we do lock horns with the bullfighter, but this time round, I want to fully support him for coming up with an excellent Bill and idea. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, following what Sen....

Sen. Orengo Mr. Speaker, Sir, with your permission, I rise to request for a Statement from the Standing Committee on Legal Affairs and Human Rights. The Statement that I request is in the following terms: Knowing the high standards of integrity, transparency and accountability which are required of the Independent...

Sen. Orengo Mr. Speaker, Sir, in view of what I know about the Chairman’s mother who passed away recently, I am inclined to accept that.

Sen. Orengo Mr. Speaker, Sir, it should go on record that I was consulting very senior, able and distinguished Senators; Sen. Sang himself and Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to second. Essentially, this is a house-keeping process in which by way of this Motion, we are trying...

Sen. Orengo On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to seek your directions. Sen. Machage stood on a point of order. Maybe before you judge him, is it right to ask him which Standing Order is being breached? If he cannot demonstrate, could he suffer further sanctions...

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Sen. Orengo Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale? (Laughter)

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale?

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir.The funny thing about lawyers is that they at times forget just like doctors tend to forget at times. Medical books are not only read by doctors alone. Patients also read them. Similarly, statutory books are also read by non-lawyers. I am, therefore, impressed that the...

Order, hon. Murungi! You will not point fingers at Senators. You have to speak through the Chair.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to bring this to your attention because the public is following this debate and we do not want to appear ignorant. November 6, 2013 SENATE DEBATES

The same section of the Political Parties Act, sub section 6, provides that anybody who infringes on a Member from enjoying the rights that I am purported not to enjoy commits an offence and is liable to a fine of Kshs1 million or a two years imprisonment or both.

Order! That is a natural opportunity to bring this debate to a close. However, as I do so, I want to clarify a few things. First, it is perfectly in order for the Senator from Elgeyo-Marakwet to engage us in what you may consider academic debate and that is constitutional...

Hon. Senators, the next Motion requires us to vote. However, I see that the numbers have dwindled again. We will vote on the two Motions, No.10 and 11 using the same Division Bell. I, therefore, order that the Division Bell be rang for both Motions. We will then proceed to...

programmes and initiatives for harnessing water; cognizant of the fact that rain water that is not harvested causes environmental degradation and damage to infrastructural facilities; recognizing that Article 69 (2) of the Constitution confers to every person a duty to cooperate with state organs and other persons to protect and...

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Before we closed the counting, as the names were being called, we were all wondering where the Senate Minority Whip was because we did not hear him.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I voted yes.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, if he voted, then it is okay because we were going to whip him. November 6, 2013 SENATE DEBATES

Mr. Speaker, Sir, Sen. Kajwang is used to seeing me seated at the front so because I was at that corner, he could not see or hear me.

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

What is it? As you approach the Dispatch Box, I thought Sen. Muthama was in the House when I was making some references to Sen. Murkomen.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, just a small point of clarification. Is it in order for Sen. Wetangula’s name to be called out when we know that the writs have been issued with regard to the Bungoma by-election?

You are absolutely right. That position should read vacant. Sen. Orengo Mr. Speaker, Sir, maybe the Clerk could delegate somebody.

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Sen. Orengo Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to support this Motion as amended and commend the Mover for bringing it, particularly her concern for the position and interests of those who previously served in the local authorities or have been seconded to those October 23, 2013 SENATE DEBATES Sen. Orengocounties...

Sen. Orengo Mr. Speaker, Sir, there was an English bishop who was asked to prove the existence of a stone. Instead of going into the academic theory of trying to conceptualize whether or not the stone exists, he said: “Kick it if you doubt its existence.” So, I just want...

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Sen. Orengo Any other intervention on that Statement?

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Sen. Orengo Sen. Orengo, it is even worse, because on your own admission, maybe the others do not know they were taking our time but yours seems to be very deliberate and purposeful.

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Sen. Orengo On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to support Sen. Orengo, the leader of the delegation of Siaya. This is a matter that is very sensitive especially to us, nominated Senators. I wanted to propose, because we are not merely flower girls in this House,...

Sen. Orengo Sen. Orengo, I think that, that is a good suggestion which will be looked into on its own merit, but the practice or what we have been able to do and my reading of that Constitution is that it is very clear that there is a head of...

Sen. Orengo, I think that, that is a good suggestion which will be looked into on its own merit, but the practice or what we have been able to do and my reading of that Constitution is that it is very clear that there is a head of delegation. In...

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Sen. Orengo Mr. Speaker, Sir. I wish to seek clarification in view of the mater raised by Sen. Orengo. The Bill is signed by one, Sen. Peter Mositet, who designates himself as Vice-Chairperson. Now, do I understand that this Bill did not originate from the Committee? Or did it originate...

Sen. Orengo Sen. Orengo, I think you are now treading on extremely dangerous grounds. Why would you think the Chairperson of the Committee would give you better information than what the Chair has given you? If you were here throughout the afternoon session, you will recall that Sen. Mositet himself...

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Sen. Orengo Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to support the Motion before this House on matters regarding health. As I went through--- October 22, 2013 SENATE DEBATES

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Sen. Orengo Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, thank you for giving me the opportunity to support this Motion. I want to recap what my colleagues have said and go beyond what has been said; that this is not a simple matter. It goes to the very root of the system of...

Sen. Orengo We cannot run away from it. If we want to deal with this thing in Turkana, we must compare it to what happened at the Westgate Mall. Therefore, the whole intelligence community must be put to account. If I was occupying those positions, all those five characters or...

Sen. Orengo Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

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Sen. Orengo A lady!

Sen. Orengo Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, when I first spoke on the main Motion, I anticipated an amendment like this. I thank the Mover of the amendment, because then, the Senate will be doing something on the basis of specific action to be taken and a clearer report on this...

Sen. Orengo Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, if you allow me. Just for the purposes of my friend, Sen. Kagwe, is that instead of adapting, we are noting it. So, we have done something; we have noted it, and then it goes back to the Committee, and then it will be...

Sen. Orengo Madam Temporary Speaker, first of all, I congratulate Sen. Haji for bringing this Motion. I just want him to appreciate a point that I want to make. It is a very October 8, 2013 SENATE DEBATES Sen. Orengoimportant point because of the new constitutional dispensation. Under the current...

Sen. Orengo Madam Temporary Speaker, luckily, this is already in the amendment. At the end of the day, issues of security and identity are very critical. If you go to America, you will find the continent delving into these problems to an extent that elections are won, fought or lost...

Sen. Orengo Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to move and request the Senator for Trans Nzoia to second my amendment.

Sen. Orengo Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. In reply, I just want to associate myself with what Sen. Hassan has said that we were not going to succeed when dealing with this problem if we make Kenya a closed society. Whether we build walls around the whole of Kenya and...

Sen. Orengo No; but I qualified and said that if you look at the entire Constitution, what it embraces are those three words: “All the sovereign power belongs to the people of Kenya;” and if you go to the next chapter, Sen. Kajwang is written all over this Constitution. Look...