Martha Wangari

Thank you. Hon. Members, before the Leader of the Majority Party seconds, allow me to interrupt the business of the House to welcome students in the Public Gallery this afternoon. St. Paul's Gatinda Primary School from Runyenjes Constituency, Embu County; Kiambuthia Secondary School, from Mathioya Constituency, Murang’a County; Ruiyobei Primary...

I was going to say we sit for three days in a week, but I welcome all the scholars that are here to observe the proceedings of the House. (Several Hon. Members consulted in the House) Leader of the Majority Party, second your Motion. Hon. Naisula and Hon. Kururia, that...

Hon. Members, before I indulge you, allow me to recognise schools in the galleries. We will keep doing this because of the number of children that we are receiving in this Plenary. In the Public Gallery, we have Sitotwo Primary School and Junior Secondary School from Keiyo South Constituency, Elgeyo...

Hon. Elachi.

Very well. Hon. James Nyikal, Member for Seme.

Hon. Naisula is not in the House. There is no more interest on this. (Hon. Zamzam Mohammed spoke off record) I do not have you in my records. Where are your cards? My screen has no other person apart from Hon. Naisula. Hon. Zamzam.

I call upon the Mover to reply.

Very well. We shall defer putting of the Question as the Mover requests. (Putting of the Question deferred) Next Order. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) left the Chair] IN THE COMMITTEE [The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) in the Chair] THE EQUALISATION FUND...

Mover of the Bill.

Hon. Nyikal.

Mover of the Bill, move Third Reading. 30th July 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 29

Hon. Nyikal.

Hon. Members, this Motion was on the Floor yesterday. We shall now resume debate. Let us start with the Leader of the Majority Party.

Very well. I do not see any further interest in this Motion. Therefore, I call upon the Mover to reply.

Hon. Pkosing, we shall defer the putting of the Question to the next appointed time. Next Order. (Putting of the Question deferred) THE METEOROLOGY BILL Leader of the Majority Party. (Hon. Owen Baya consulted Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah) Hon. Member, you are disrupting the Leader of the Majority. He is supposed...

Hon. Musyoka.

I am not sure whether these schools are still here. Hon. Members, before I indulge you, join me in welcoming students seated in the galleries. In the Public Gallery, we have Kamaruso School from Eldama Ravine, Baringo County, and St. Joan’s Academy from Keiyo South, Elgeyo Marakwet County. On behalf...

Very well. It has been mentioned that the people of Turkana are able to predict weather through their intestines. (Laughter) 30th July 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 39

Mover to reply.

It shall be so. The Question will be put at the next appointed time. Next Order. Hon. Gideon Mulyungi, Chairman of the Decentralised Funds Accounts Committee. ADOPTION OF SIXTH REPORT ON AUDITED ACCOUNTS OF NG-CDF FOR THREE CONSTITUENCIES

Member for Samburu East.

The Member for Karachuonyo.

Hold on! I did not propose the Question. You will hold on so that I propose the Question first. We have had so many back-to- back Motions. (Question proposed) Member for Karachuonyo, you can have your take.

Thank you very much. Member for Migori.

Mover to reply.

You are right on track. The Question will be put at the next appointed time. (Putting of the Question deferred) Next Order. PYRETHRUM (REPEAL) BILL Hon. Deputy Leader of the Majority Party.

Are you having doubts on the capacity of the good Bishop. 30th July 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 46

Hon. (Dr) Bishop Jackson Kosgei.

Very well. (Question proposed) Hon. Mulyungi.

Very well. Member for Kiharu.

Hon. Fatuma, do you want to contribute to this Bill?

Okay, I call upon the Mover to reply.

He always sounds like that. 30th July 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 50 (Laughter)

The Question will be put in the next appointed time. (Putting of the Question deferred) Hon. Members, we have exhausted the business of the day. Be up standing. ADJOURNMENT Hon. Members, the time being 6.53

Chairperson.

Mover.

Who was seconding? Hon.

Okay. Thank you. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) THE KENYA ROADS (AMENDMENT) (NO.2) BILL

Hon. Caroli.

Hon. Kasalu, you do not walk out of the House when the Temporary Speaker is on her feet. You are totally out of order, but now you can move out. THE COUNTY PUBLIC FINANCE LAWS (AMENDMENT) BILL

Mover. Hon. Kimani, you have become a nomad.

Member for Bomet County.

Very well. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) Mover to move Third Reading. THE COUNTY PUBLIC FINANCE LAWS (AMENDMENT) BILL

Member for Murang’a County. 29th July 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 17 A certified version of this Report

I will not comment on the admiration, but allow me to propose the Question. (Question proposed) May I put the Question. I have confirmed that we have the numbers. (Question put and agreed) (The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed) Next Order. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON AUDITED...

Order, Hon. Pkosing. Kindly take your seat for a minute. Since we have so many students coming in and out of the Gallery and I know many would like to be acknowledged when they are in here, allow me to interrupt you to welcome students from Kavutiri Secondary School from...

Hon. Pkosing, you will pardon me, for reasons I had explained earlier. (Laughter)(Applause) 29th July 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 21 A certified version of this ReportHon. Pkosing, since you have 40 minutes left, which I know you can utilise, I would like to invite Hon. Sarah Paulata, Member for Laikipia...

Very well. You will tell us in another sitting how you are an old girl of Doldol Boys Secondary School. But for now, Hon. Pkosing, kindly take it up. (Laughter)

Thank you, Hon. Pkosing. Those are definitely not a few words. Hon. Ariko.

I am not sure the Members listed here want to speak to this. Hon. Mulanya? He is not present. Hon. Mulyungi, not on this. Hon. Keynan.

It is ten minutes. You only have a minute to go. 29th July 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 27 A certified version of this Report

Very well. Member for Marakwet West, Hon. Timothy Kipchumba.

Very well. Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu.

Hon. Ochanda.

Hon. Owen Baya.

Member for Nandi Hills, what is out of order?

I will let Hon. Owen finish his contribution, then I will give guidance on quorum.

Hon. Owen, any Member can rise to raise an issue of quorum. It is in the Standing Orders. You will finish your contribution, then I will deal with the issue raised by the Member for Nandi Hills.

Hon. Members, a member has risen in accordance with Standing Order 35. Therefore, I order that the bell be rung for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) (Some Hon. Members walked towards the door of the Chambers) Hon. Members, when the bell is ringing, nobody walks out. ADJOURNMENT Hon....

Thank you. Hon. Members, before we go to the next speaker, we have students from Linus Waruiru School from South Imenti Constituency in Meru County seated in the Speaker's Gallery this afternoon. Also present in the Public Gallery are students from Ngesumin Girls Secondary School, located in Bureti Constituency, Kericho...

Thank you very much. Hon. Members, you will notice that most of us are speaking for eight to 10 minutes. If you wish, you could decide to speak for three to four minutes, allowing more people to speak. Member for Samburu, Hon. Pauline Lenguris.

Hon. G.G Murugara.

Hon. Rindikiri Mugambi.

Hon. Adan Keynan, Member for Eldas.

Hon. Irene Mayaka.

Hon. Wachira Karani.

Whip of the Majority Party.

Next is the Member of Seme, Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal.

Member for Laikipia County.

Member for Kitui Central, Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu.

Very well. I see there is a lot of interest. Though we have 10 minutes per Member, if we can try and shorten it, more people will speak. The Standing Orders do not provide for that; it has to be a personal conviction to take a shorter time. Member for...

Hon. Agnes Pareyio.

Very well. Member for Kanduyi, Hon. Makali.

Member for Bomachoge Borabu, Mhe. Nolfason Barongo.

Member for Ndhiwa, Hon. Martin Owino.

Hon. Cynthia Muge, Member for Nandi.

Chairperson of the Committee on National Government Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF) .

Hon. Mohamed has already corrected. I think what he means is that we must attain 233 in the afternoon. 26th June 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 33

Hon. Member for Nairobi, Hon. Passaris.

Hon. Passaris, by the Standing Orders, you will maintain relevance to the debate.

The Member for Nambale, Hon. Geofrey Mulanya.

The Deputy Majority Whip, Hon. Waqo.

Bishop Kosgei.

Very well. The Member for Teso North, Hon. Kaunya.

Member for Mandera. She has walked out. Member for Kwanza.

Thank you very much. Hon. Members, unfortunately, our time for the morning session is up. We take note that there is a lot of interest. I have requested the Clerks-at-the-Table to note Members who have been queuing. As long as you will be in the House, you will get the...

On a point of order, Hon. Speaker. Yes, Hon. Wangari. Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Before you exit that Order, I would like to remind you that last Thursday, I requested for a Statement on gambling from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National 24th June 2025 NATIONAL...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. On behalf of yourself and the panel today, led by the Deputy Speaker, we hosted the delegation for an intense one-and-a half hour discussion. We learnt a lot from each other. More importantly, as the Leader of the Majority Party has said, they can copy a...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for indulging me. I take this opportunity to welcome the students in the Public Gallery. Allow me to thank you and the Clerk of the National Assembly for offering a good training ground for our children during this Session of the 13th Parliament. It is important...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker for indulging me to ride on this Statement by my counterpart from Subukia. The issues Hon. Gachobe has raised are widely Nakuru issues. Just yesterday, a gang killed a police officer. Last week, we had a child who was butchered in Barnabas. The issue of...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Dorothy. Hon Dorothy Muthoni (Nominated, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Fish farming is a major economic activity. That is why this Agreement seeks to balance the livelihoods of fishing communities with the need to maintain marine health. It also aims at...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Owen Baya.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Murugara.

Thank you. Hon. Timothy Kipchumba.

Very well. Member for Nakuru Town East. He is not in the House. If there is no more interest in this Bill, I will call upon the mover to reply. Hold on Hon. Kangogo. Let us have the Member for Nyando.

Hon. Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Kangogo, reply.

Very well. We shall defer putting of the Question. (Putting of the Question deferred) Next Order. Hon. Members, this is resumption of debate. Hon. Bisau was on the Floor. He has a balance of eight minutes. If he is not in the House, we will open it up for debate....

Thank you. Member for Nyando Constituency, Hon. Jared Okello.

Very well. Hon. Chairman, you can now reply.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : I agree with you.

We shall defer putting of the Question on that Motion. (Putting of the Question deferred) Next Order. Leader of the Majority Party.

Hon. Owen is confused today between Tigania and Tharaka, and also between Murungaru and Murugara. It is Hon. George Murugara, Member for Tharaka. Thank you.

Hon. Catherine Omanyo, do you want to contribute to this Bill? (Hon. Catherine Omanyo shook her head in disagreement) Hon. Caroli.

Point taken. Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. Order, Hon. K.J. You cannot exit the Chamber while the Quorum Bell is ringing. Hon. Caroli Omondi, you will have the balance of your time the next time this Motion is on the floor. The catch is that you will...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker for indulging me to ride on this Statement by my counterpart from Subukia. The issues Hon. Gachobe has raised are widely Nakuru issues. Just yesterday, a gang killed a police officer. Last week, we had a child who was butchered in Barnabas. The issue of...

Hon. Dorothy. Hon Dorothy Muthoni (Nominated, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Fish farming is a major economic activity. That is why this Agreement seeks to balance the livelihoods of fishing communities with the need to maintain marine health. It also aims at 3rd June 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 36...

Hon. Owen Baya.

Hon. Murugara. 3rd June 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 38

Thank you. Hon. Timothy Kipchumba.

Very well. Member for Nakuru Town East. He is not in the House. If there is no more interest in this Bill, I will call upon the mover to reply. Hold on Hon. Kangogo. Let us have the Member for Nyando.

Hon. Kangogo, reply.

Very well. We shall defer putting of the Question. (Putting of the Question deferred) Next Order. 3rd June 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 41 ADOPTION OF REPORT ON EXAMINATION OF AUDITED ACCOUNTS OF STATE CORPORATIONS FOR CENTRAL REGION Committee on Governance and Education on its Examination of the Reports of Hon....

Thank you. Member for Nyando Constituency, Hon. Jared Okello. 3rd June 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 42

Very well. Hon. Chairman, you can now reply.

I agree with you.

We shall defer putting of the Question on that Motion. (Putting of the Question deferred) Next Order. THE POLITICAL PARTIES (AMENDMENT) (NO.2) BILL Leader of the Majority Party.

Hon. Owen is confused today between Tigania and Tharaka, and also between Murungaru and Murugara. It is Hon. George Murugara, Member for Tharaka. Thank you.

Hon. Catherine Omanyo, do you want to contribute to this Bill? (Hon. Catherine Omanyo shook her head in disagreement) Hon. Caroli. 3rd June 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 51

Point taken. Serjeant-at-Arms, ring Hon. Caroli Omondi, you will have the balance of your time the next time this Motion is on the floor. The catch is that you will have to be in the House. If you are not, you will then forfeit it. (Loud consultations) ADJOURNMENT Hon. Members,...

Hon. Members, why are you raising your hands? Please, use your cards. (Loud consultations) Proceed, Hon. Rindikiri.

Hon. Deputy Speaker.

Hon. (Dr) Oundo.

Hon. Members, it is out of order to leave the chamber when the Bell is ringing. Hon. Members, having not raised the requisite quorum, we must adjourn. Be upstanding. ADJOURNMENT Hon. Members, the time now being