Martha Wangari

Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Serjeant-at-Arms, stop the Quorum Bell. We have the numbers. We are now ready to transact the Business of the day. (Hon. Antony Wainaina and Hon. Dan Wanyama walked into the Chamber) Order, Members. Member for Kieni, Order!...

I also want to confirm that I saw you during lunch hour. I do not know whether you were still doing inspection or buying them lunch. But, Hon. Members, allow me to just welcome them to the House to watch the Proceedings of this House. Next Order. Hon. Members, allow...

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Use the intervention button if you are intending to speak on this. I want to alert the House that we have the Petitioners listening to these sentiments from the Speaker's Gallery. Rev. Josiah Njiru and your team, stand up if you are in the Gallery. (Reverend Josiah Njiru and other...

Very well. Member of Kinangop, keep it short.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Thank you. Hon. Members, I can see the Chair of the Public Petitions Committee lifting his hand. Luckily for the Petitioners, our Chair is one Hon. Eric Muchangi. He is the only man who is in the House and has evidence on his...

Member for Central Imenti.

I will indulge a few more Members. Before I do that, allow me – I know there is traffic to the galleries – to recognise the following institutions in the public gallery: Kithino Farmers’ Cooperative Society Limited, Imenti South Constituency, Meru County. Prestigious Vineyard Academy, Embakasi East Constituency, Nairobi County;...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Asante sana. Hon. Kangogo Bowen.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Member for Matuga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Member for Buuri.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Chief Whip.

Very well. The Member for Tigania West.

Member for Lungalunga, Hon. Chiforomodo.

Hon. Ferdinand Kevin Wanyonyi, Member for Kwanza.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Rahim.

We will close with the Chair of the Public Petitions Committee.

Hon. Chair, you do not need to help the Speaker. You cannot purport to take a position on a petition that you are supposed to preside over. Hon. Members, I do not need assistance. Member for Runyenjes, you will consider this petition on its merits and bring a report to...

Order, Members. We have dispensed with that Order. There is nothing further to it. Member for Starehe, I will invite you to welcome your students who are still in the Public Gallery.

Very well. Next Order.

We have another set of Papers. Chairman of the Select Committee on Members Services and Facilities.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Next Order. Chairperson of the Select Committee on Members Service and Facilities, you have a Notice of Motion.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Next Order. Hon. Members, we have some Statements, Requests for Statements and Responses to Requests for Statement. I will indulge the Member for Emuhaya to go first.

Thank you. Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education, this is not a new issue. Remember I raised it last week. Vice-Chair, bring the response next week on Wednesday. It is an urgent matter.

I will indulge the Member for Mukurweini. Next is the Member for Moyale, Hon. Prof Guyo Jaldesa.

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security you have two weeks.

Very well. Member for Othaya. (Hon. Prof Guyo Jaldesa spoke off the record) What is the matter Professor?

Order, Professor. You have two weeks within which you can raise further questions. Member for Othaya?

The Chairperson of the Departmental Committee of Blue Economy, Water and Irrigation, bring a response in two weeks.

Hon. Members, allow me to welcome students from the following schools. They are seated in the Public Gallery: Nairobi South Day Secondary School from Starehe Constituency, Nairobi County; and, Muhoroni Furaha School from Muhoroni Constituency, Kisumu County. Join me in welcoming them to observe the proceedings of the House. I...

Leader of the Majority Party, you have made your point. Next is the Member for North Imenti.

Hon. Member for North Imenti, give the Speaker a moment to first determine your Statement before you debate it. (A Member spoke of the record) The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Okay.

Hon. Rahim, I hear you. However, I would like to bring to your attention that a Statement should be read as it is. Is the Chairman or the Vice-Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations in the House? Leader of the Majority Party, many other such...

Thank you. Before we go to the next Statement, allow me to recognise, in the Public Gallery, learners from Kiambuthia Primary School, Mathioya Constituency in Muranga County. Join me in welcoming them to observe the proceedings of the House. (Applause) Next is the Member for Mwingi Central.

Very well. Is the Chairman or the Vice- Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning in the House? Leader of the Majority Leader, kindly let the Chairman of the Committee know that a response is required within the next two weeks. (Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah spoke off the...

Very well. Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure, Hon. GK.

Very well. Hon. Umulkher Harun. Is she in the House? She is not in. That Request for Statement is deferred to the next time it will be scheduled again in the Order Paper. Next is Request for Statement by Hon. Kaguchia. Is he in the House? He is not in....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Keynan.

Very well. As has been said by Hon. Keynan, Dr Mutunga is up to the task. We will move to the next response to a Statement request by Hon. Joseph Namuar. Is he in the House? Where is he? I did not know Hon. Emathe is also called Namuar. Hon....

Very well. Member for Turkana Central, are you satisfied?

Hon. Kangogo, you have been rated at 20 per cent from that statement. What do you have to say?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Namuar.

Hon. Chairman, I am sure you have heard his concerns. The next response is to the Member for Kandara Constituency. Are you in the House? The response to that Statement is by Hon. GK and his Committee.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Member for Kandara, are you satisfied with the statement?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Member for Kandara, I have indulged you and on behalf of the House, we also send our condolences. On behalf of Gilgil, where this accident took place, I want to confirm it is one of the worst accidents we have ever seen. We...

Thank you. Member for Machakos, to be responded to by the same Committee. Is the Member for Machakos in the House? If she is not in the House, you shall table the response, Chair. We will go to the next request for statement by Hon. Bady Twalib. Are you in...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Twalib.

I cannot hear you. I need to hear you, Hon. Twalib.

Very well. Hon. Chairman.

Let us go to the General Statement by the Member for Tetu, Hon. Wandeto.

Thank you, Hon. Wandeto. We join you in wishing and sending our condolences to the people of Tetu and the family of the late F.T. Nyammo. If you wish to make a comment on this, kindly use the intervention button. To be more orderly, we will get the Statement from...

Thank you. We also send our condolences to the family of the late Hon. Lagat. I was lucky to have served with him in the 11th Parliament. We pray for peace for his family. Hon. Members, I will indulge a few of you to make comments, each in one minute....

Member for Nandi Hills.

We will keep it short. Hon. Nyakundi.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Member for Tinderet.

Very well. Hon. Kitany.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Navakholo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Ngikolong.

Hon. Mwafrika, Member for Roysambu, it is one minute.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Kuria Kimani.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Kaluma.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Mawathe.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Farah.

Hon. Members, we shall have a moment of silence for our fallen colleagues. May we all be upstanding. (Members observed a moment of silence) May their souls rest in eternal peace. Next order.

Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Serjeant-at-Arms, stop the Quorum Bell. We have the numbers. We are now ready to transact the Business of the day. (Hon. Antony Wainaina and Hon. Dan Wanyama walked into the Chamber) Order, Members. Member for Kieni, Order!...

I also want to confirm that I saw you during lunch hour. I do not know whether you were still doing inspection or buying them lunch. But, Hon. Members, allow me to just welcome them to the House to watch the Proceedings of this House. Next Order. ENACTMENT OF A...

I can see there is quite some interest. We will each use a maximum of two minutes. Member of Sigowet/Soin Constituency, quick comments. Do not debate. Hon. Justice Kemei (Sigowet/Soin, UDA) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I want to join Professor Oundo to say this is quite strange. It...

Very well. Member of Kinangop, keep it short.

Thank you. Hon. Members, I can see the Chair of the Public Petitions Committee lifting his hand. Luckily for the Petitioners, our Chair is one Hon. Eric Muchangi. He is the only man who is in the House and has evidence on his head that he saved. (Laughter)

Member for Central Imenti.

I will indulge a few more Members. Before I do that, allow me – I know there is traffic to the galleries – to recognise the following institutions in the public gallery: Kithino Farmers’ Cooperative Society Limited, Imenti South Constituency, Meru County. Prestigious Vineyard Academy, Embakasi East Constituency, Nairobi County;...

Asante sana. Hon. Kangogo Bowen.

Member for Matuga.

Member for Buuri.

Chief Whip.

Very well. The Member for Tigania West.

Member for Lungalunga, Hon. Chiforomodo. 2nd October 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 7

Hon. Ferdinand Kevin Wanyonyi, Member for Kwanza.

Hon. Rahim.

We will close with the Chair of the Public Petitions Committee.

Hon. Chair, you do not need to help the Speaker. You cannot purport to take a position on a petition that you are supposed to preside over. Hon. Members, I do not need assistance. Member for Runyenjes, you will consider this petition on its merits and bring a report to...

The next 90 days. 2nd October 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 8

Order, Members. We have dispensed with that Order. There is nothing further to it. Member for Starehe, I will invite you to welcome your students who are still in the Public Gallery.

Very well. Next Order.

We have another set of Papers. Chairman of the Select Committee on Members Services and Facilities.

Next Order. NOTICE OF MOTION Chairperson of the Select Committee on Members Service and Facilities, you have a Notice of Motion. INSPECTION VISIT TO CONSTITUENCY OFFICES

Next Order. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS Hon. Members, we have some Statements, Requests for Statements and Responses to Requests for Statement. I will indulge the Member for Emuhaya to go first. REQUESTS FOR STATEMENTS VERIFICATION OF STUDENTS’ ENROLMENT IN SCHOOLS

Thank you. Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education, this is not a new issue. Remember I raised it last week. Vice-Chair, bring the response next week on Wednesday. It is an urgent matter.

I will indulge the Member for Mukurweini. Next is the Member for Moyale, Hon. Prof Guyo Jaldesa. POLICE HARASSMENT AND RESTRICTIONS ON MINING ACTIVITIES IN MOYALE CONSTITUENCY

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security you have two weeks.

Very well. Member for Othaya. (Hon. Prof Guyo Jaldesa spoke off the record) What is the matter Professor?

Order, Professor. You have two weeks within which you can raise further questions. Member for Othaya? HIGH WATER TARIFFS IN OTHAYA AND MUKURWEINI CONSTITUENCIES

The Chairperson of the Departmental Committee of Blue Economy, Water and Irrigation, bring a response in two weeks.

Hon. Members, allow me to welcome students from the following schools. They are seated in the Public Gallery: Nairobi South Day Secondary School from Starehe Constituency, Nairobi County; and, Muhoroni Furaha School from Muhoroni Constituency, Kisumu County. Join me in welcoming them to observe the proceedings of the House. I...

Leader of the Majority Party, you have made your point. Next is the Member for North Imenti. INCLUSION OF IMENTI EAST SUB-COUNTY IN THE KDF RECRUITMENT EXERCISE

Not Chair! 2nd October 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 15

Hon. Member for North Imenti, give the Speaker a moment to first determine your Statement before you debate it. (A Member spoke of the record) Okay.

Hon. Rahim, I hear you. However, I would like to bring to your attention that a Statement should be read as it is. Is the Chairman or the Vice-Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations in the House? Leader of the Majority Party, many other such...

Thank you. Before we go to the next Statement, allow me to recognise, in the Public Gallery, learners from Kiambuthia Primary School, Mathioya Constituency in Muranga County. Join me in welcoming them to observe the proceedings of the House. (Applause) DISPUTED TAX ARREARS OWED TO KRA BY NG-CDF COMMITTEES

Very well. Is the Chairman or the Vice- Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning in the House? Leader of the Majority Leader, kindly let the Chairman of the Committee know that a response is required within the next two weeks. (Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah spoke off the...

Very well. Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure, Hon. GK.

Very well. Hon. Umulkher Harun. Is she in the House? She is not in. That Request for Statement is deferred to the next time it will be scheduled again in the Order Paper. Next is Request for Statement by Hon. Kaguchia. Is he in the House? He is not in....

Hon. Keynan.

Hon. Keynan, since you requested for the Statement, you know the rules. You can ask for clarification if you need it, but do not debate the Statement. We still have a lot of business to cover.

Very well. As has been said by Hon. Keynan, Dr Mutunga is up to the task. We will move to the next response to a Statement request by Hon. Joseph Namuar. Is he in the House? Where is he? I did not know Hon. Emathe is also called Namuar. Hon....

Very well. Member for Turkana Central, are you satisfied?

Hon. Kangogo, you have been rated at 20 per cent from that statement. What do you have to say?

Hon. Namuar.

Hon. Chairman, I am sure you have heard his concerns. The next response is to the Member for Kandara Constituency. Are you in the House? The response to that Statement is by Hon. GK and his Committee. CONSTRUCTION OF A ROAD IN KANDARA CONSTITUENCY

Member for Kandara, are you satisfied with the statement?

Member for Kandara, I have indulged you and on behalf of the House, we also send our condolences. On behalf of Gilgil, where this accident took place, I want to confirm it is one of the worst accidents we have ever seen. We send our prayers to the families that...

Thank you. Member for Machakos, to be responded to by the same Committee. Is the Member for Machakos in the House? If she is not in the House, you shall table the response, Chair. We will go to the next request for statement by Hon. Bady Twalib. Are you in...

Hon. Twalib.

I cannot hear you. I need to hear you, Hon. Twalib.

Very well. Hon. Chairman. 2nd October 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 28

Let us go to the General Statement by the Member for Tetu, Hon. Wandeto. DEMISE OF HON. FRANCIS THOMBE NYAMMO

Thank you, Hon. Wandeto. We join you in wishing and sending our condolences to the people of Tetu and the family of the late F.T. Nyammo. If you wish to make a comment on this, kindly use the intervention button. To be more orderly, we will get the Statement from...

Thank you. We also send our condolences to the family of the late Hon. Lagat. I was lucky to have served with him in the 11th Parliament. We pray for peace for his family. Hon. Members, I will indulge a few of you to make comments, each in one minute....

Member for Nandi Hills.

We will keep it short. Hon. Nyakundi.

Member for Tinderet.

Very well. Hon. Kitany.

Navakholo.

Hon. Ngikolong.

Hon. Mwafrika, Member for Roysambu, it is one minute.

Hon. Kuria Kimani.

Hon. Kaluma.

Hon. Mawathe.

Hon. Farah.

Hon. Members, we shall have a moment of silence for our fallen colleagues. May we all be upstanding. (Members observed a moment of silence) May their souls rest in eternal peace. Next order. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) left the Chair] IN THE COMMITTEE...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Chairperson.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Mover.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Kangogo.

Order Members. Hon. Kaluma, that Kamukunji is illegal. Mover, to move Third Reading.

Having confirmed that the House is properly constituted, I put the Question. (Question put and agreed to) (The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed) The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Chairperson.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Mover.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Nyikal.

Mover, to move Third Reading.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Kaluma.

Hon. Mawathe, you are totally out of order. (Question put and agreed to) (The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed) Before we go to the next Order this afternoon, allow me to recognise Ruby Kraft Adventist School from Karachuonyo Constituency in Homa Bay County. They are in...

The Member for Funyula.

Leader of the Majority Party.

Very well. Before I give an opportunity to the next Member, allow me to recognise the team in the Speaker’s Gallery: The second group from Rubi Kraft Adventist School from Karachuonyo in Homa Bay County. You are welcome to observe the proceedings of the House. Member for Bomet, do you...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Member for Rarieda.

Thank you very much. I agree with you. There must be a point of meeting between Audit Committees and Departmental Committees. Departmental Committees are the ones that deal with budget proposals, and those reports should be available when the budget process is ongoing. The next chance goes to Hon. Mutuse....

Member for Homa Bay Town, Hon. Kaluma.

Hon. Member for Igembe Central, Hon. Karitho.

Very well. Member for Saboti, Hon. Caleb.

Very well. Hon. Member for Kangema. He is not in the House. Hon. Member for Mwingi West.

Very well. Hon. Caroli, where is your card? (Hon. Caroli Omondi spoke off the record) No, it is not! Hon. Caroli, you have the Floor. Thank you.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Member for Busia County, do you want to contribute to the Motion?

There being no more interest in this Motion, I call upon the Mover to reply.

Very well. Your request is assented to. Putting of the Question would be done in the next Sitting. (Putting of the question deferred) Next Order. (Bill deferred) Hon. Members, at the request of the Mover, this Order will be stepped down in today’s Sitting. Next was Order 11. At the...

Member for Turkana East, Hon. Nicholas Ngikolong.

Very well. Member for Mandera, Hon. Umul Kheir.

Are you on this or the next one, Member of Busia, Hon. Omanyo?

Hon. Mary Emaase, where is your card? Why are you lifting your hand? Give Hon. Emaase the microphone.

Chairperson.

Mover.

Hon. Kangogo.

Order Members. Hon. Kaluma, 30th September 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 17 Mover, to move Third Reading. THE AIR PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE (AMENDMENT) BILL

Having confirmed that the House is properly constituted, I put the Question. (Question put and agreed to) (The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed) CONSIDERATION OF REPORT ON THE COUNTY GOVERNMENTS ADDITIONAL ALLOCATIONS (NO.2) BILL Chairperson.

Mover.

Hon. Nyikal.

Mover, to move Third Reading. 30th September 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 18 THE COUNTY GOVERNMENTS ADDITIONAL ALLOCATIONS (NO.2) BILL

Hon. Kaluma.

Hon. Mawathe, you are totally out of order. (Question put and agreed to) (The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed) Before we go to the next Order this afternoon, allow me to recognise Ruby Kraft Adventist School from Karachuonyo Constituency in Homa Bay County. They are in...

The Member for Funyula.

Leader of the Majority Party.

Very well. Before I give an opportunity to the next Member, allow me to recognise the team in the Speaker’s Gallery: The second group from Rubi Kraft Adventist School from Karachuonyo in Homa Bay County. You are welcome to observe the proceedings of the House. Member for Bomet, do you...

Member for Rarieda.

Thank you very much. I agree with you. There must be a point of meeting between Audit Committees and Departmental Committees. Departmental Committees are the ones that deal with budget proposals, and those reports should be available when the budget process is ongoing. The next chance goes to Hon. Mutuse....

Member for Homa Bay Town, Hon. Kaluma.

Hon. Member for Igembe Central, Hon. Karitho.

Very well. Member for Saboti, Hon. Caleb.

Very well. Hon. Member for Kangema. He is not in the House. Hon. Member for Mwingi West.

Very well. Hon. Caroli, where is your card? (Hon. Caroli Omondi spoke off the record) 30th September 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 29 No, it is not! Hon. Caroli, you have the Floor. Thank you.

Member for Busia County, do you want to contribute to the Motion?

There being no more interest in this Motion, I call upon the Mover to reply.

Very well. Your request is assented to. Putting of the Question would be done in the next Sitting. (Putting of the question deferred) Next Order. THE PRIVATISATION BILL (Bill deferred)Hon. Members, at the request of the Mover, this Order will be stepped down in today’s Sitting. Next was Order 11....

Member for Turkana East, Hon. Nicholas Ngikolong.

Very well. Member for Mandera, Hon. Umul Kheir.

Are you on this or the next one, Member of Busia, Hon. Omanyo?

Hon. Mary Emaase, where is your card? Why are you lifting your hand? Give Hon. Emaase the microphone.

Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Order, Hon. Members. We shall begin the business of the day. Member for North Imenti, Hon. Rahim, you have a Petition. COMPENSATION AND LAND ALLOCATION TO MAU MAU WAR VETERANS

Very well. I do not know if the Members who have indicated interest in speaking are doing so on the Petition. Hon. King’ara, is it on the Petition? 14th August 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 2

Hon. Mbui?

Member for Chepalungu?

That Petition will be committed to the Public Petitions Committee. Next Order. Under Papers, we have the Chairperson, the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs, Hon. Murugara.

Hon. Murugara, proceed.

Hon. Murugara, hold on. Let us exhaust this Order first. We will give you a chance later. Hon. Gikaria, Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Energy. Are you on the phone, Hon. Gikaria? (Laughter)

Not yet? Hon. Murugara, I will indulge you for the next one.

Thank you very much. We have the Hon. Chairman of the Committee on Delegated Legislation. I must confirm that as the Liaison Committee, this matter; the issue of E- procurement and the process of transition has been brought to us. Hon. Chairman, I think you can shed some light on...

Hon. Gikaria, are you ready?

Okay. Next Order. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS We have Statements that are being requested first. Hon. Gikaria, you have been listed here. Are you ready for this one? REQUEST FOR STATEMENT LEGAL REPRESENTATION FOR KENYA WILDLIFE OFFICERS FACING LEGAL CHARGES

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Tourism and Wildlife Committee, is that Hon. Kareke? Is he in the House? If

Very well. This should be the first week of resumption. Next are responses to Statements. RESPONSES TO STATEMENTS INSECURITY IN ISIOLO COUNTY

Endeavour to bring the Statement to the House. SENTENCING OF MS MARGARET NDUTA IN VIETNAM

The next response is still by the Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations, responding to a question by Hon. Gonzi Rai, the Member for Kinango, on the safety of Ms Riziki Luvuno Mambo, who went missing in Saudi Arabia. Chairperson, do you have the response?

Member for Kinango, before I give you a chance, allow me to recognise learners from Ncoroiboro Primary School in Buuri Constituency, Meru County, seated in the Public Gallery. I will allow Hon. Dorothy to welcome them on our behalf.

Thank you, Hon. Muthoni. Hon. Member for Kinango, are you satisfied with the response? If not, do you have a follow-up question or questions?

Chairman, do you have anything else to add?

Asante. Next Order.

Hon. Clive, what is out of order?

The Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Health is not in the House. Is the Vice-Chairman in the House? If not, Leader

Very well. Hon. Mizighi, are you on a point of order?

Very well. Next Order. CONSIDERATION OF REPORT ON SENATE AMENDMENTS TO THE LAND (AMENDMENT) BILL Chairperson.

Mover, Hon. King’ara.

Hon. Nyamai, go ahead.

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu.

Very well. Leader of the Majority Party, that issue has been pending. You can give an undertaking to have it scheduled, at least in this session. That would be important.

Very well. Member for Kiambaa.

Leader of the Majority Party.

Hon. Owen.

Member for Kathiani.

Member for Kiambaa.

Member for Makueni.

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu, proceed.

Hon. Gichimu.

Hon. Joseph Denar.

There are no more interests? I do not see you on my system. Why are all of you raising your hands? Hon. Jematiah and Hon. Patrick, where are your cards? Hon. Wamaua, you will have the first go. I can see your card, finally.

Member for Nyando. There is a problem with the microphones on this side. The ICT team should look into this problem.

What is out of order, Member for Gem? Hon. Elisha Odhiambo (Gem, ODM) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I have just listened to the Member for Nyando insinuating that we have lost tourists to Zambia and other African nations without giving a statistical reference and incontrovertible data. I am...

Wait, Member for Nyando. The Member for Ainabkoi, Hon. Chepkonga, looks very agitated. What is out of order?

Member for Nyando, are you done with your contribution?

Hon. Members, a Member has risen under Standing Order 95 for the mover to be called upon to reply. I will put the Question. (Question, that the Mover be called upon to reply, put and agreed to) Mover.

Next Order. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) left the Chair] IN THE COMMITTEE THE ELECTION OFFENCES (AMENDMENT) (NO.2) BILL 14th August 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 19 The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Thank you, Hon. Members. We are in the Committee of the...

Mover to move motion for agreement with the report.

Leader of the Majority Party.

Hon. Members, do I put the Question?

Mover to move motion for Third Reading.

Hon. Chepkonga, you know I have to propose the Question first. (Question proposed)

Very well. There being no more interest in this, allow me to put the question. (Question put and agreed to) (The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed) APPROVAL OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING REGULATIONS Chair of the Committee on Delegated Legislation, Hon. Chepkonga

Hon. Owen.

Member for Kathiani.

Member for Kiambaa.

Member for Makueni.

Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu, proceed.

Hon. Gichimu.

Hon. Joseph Denar.

There are no more interests? I do not see you on my system. Why are all of you raising your hands? Hon. Jematiah and Hon. Patrick, where are your cards? Hon. Wamaua, you will have the first go. I can see your card, finally.

Member for Nyando. There is a problem with the microphones on this side. The ICT team should look into this problem.

What is out of order, Member for Gem? Hon. Elisha Odhiambo (Gem, ODM) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I have just listened to the Member for Nyando insinuating that we have lost tourists to Zambia and other African nations without giving a statistical reference and incontrovertible data. I am...

Wait, Member for Nyando. The Member for Ainabkoi, Hon. Chepkonga, looks very agitated. What is out of order?

Member for Nyando, are you done with your contribution?

Hon. Members, a Member has risen under Standing Order 95 for the mover to be called upon to reply. I will put the Question. (Question, that the Mover be called upon to reply, put and agreed to) Mover.

Next Order. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) left the Chair] IN THE COMMITTEE THE ELECTION OFFENCES (AMENDMENT) (NO.2) BILL 14th August 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 31 The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Thank you, Hon. Members. We are in the Committee of the...

Mover to move motion for agreement with the report.

Leader of the Majority Party.

Hon. Members, do I put the Question?

Mover to move motion for Third Reading.

Hon. Chepkonga, you know I have to propose the Question first. (Question proposed)

Very well. There being no more interest in this, allow me to put the question. (Question put and agreed to) (The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed) APPROVAL OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING REGULATIONS Chair of the Committee on Delegated Legislation, Hon. Chepkonga

Sergeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Hon. Mark Mwenje, do not do the job of the Sergeant-at-Arms. Come into the Chamber. I am told you have helped with whipping Members. Hon. Members, we can begin the business of the House. Allow me to recognise the following visitors in the Public Gallery:

Member for Tharaka Constituency.

Thank you. We welcome all our visitors to observe the proceedings of the House. Next Order. Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations.

You were listed to lay on the Table of the House the Report of the Committee on its Participation in the Diaspora Mobile Consular Services. Do you have the Report? Give the Chairman the microphone.

Hon. Chairman, I was checking to see who you are seated next to, who is distracting you. It seems the person distracting you is not in the House. Next Order. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS Hon. Members, under Order No.7, we have several requests for statements and responses. First, allow me to...

Hon. Members, we will go on with Order No.7 – that is the Request for Statement by Hon. (Dr) Ariko Namoit, the Member for 14th August 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 4 Turkana South. We still have microphones behaving funnily. Please, move where one is functioning. Is it still not working?...

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security. Hon. Chairperson

That is in order. The next Request for Statement will be by Hon. Chege Njuguna. Is he in the House? DISAPPEARANCE OF MR MOSES NG’ANG’A MUHIA

Hon. Tongoyo, back to you.

You should bring it in the first week after we resume, but if you happen to have it earlier, liaise with the Hon. Member because it is a matter of life and death.

Nominated Member, Hon. Suleka INSECURITY AT MANDERA BORDER POINT

Hon. Koech.

The next one is by Hon. Mejjadonk. Hon. Mejjadonk Gathiru (Embakasi Central, UDA) . Thank you.

First of all, let the Chairperson respond to the Request for Statement. I am sure the Committee is up to the task, if there is a need to visit. Hon. Mejja. OWNERSHIP OF LR NO. NAIROBI/BLOCK/156/548 IN EMBAKASI CENTRAL

Chair of Departmental Committee on Education, are you in the House? Vice Chair? Any Member? No Member of the Committee is in the House. Majority Whip, can you make an undertaking on behalf of the Committee Chair?

Kindly note that this issue is deeper than the normal 44 (2) (c) . It may require an inquiry and cooperation from other committees, and specifically the Committee responsible for land matters. Therefore, you may need three weeks. I will give you three weeks to bring a report to the...

Departmental Committee on Health. The Vice Chair, Hon. Patrick, is here. Hon. Patrick Ntwiga (Chuka/Igambang’ombe, UDA) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Statement Request is in two parts. The first part is one release of the body, which is urgent. It is a matter on which we can bring...

Chairman, Hon. G.K.

We have some responses to requests for statements. First is the response to the Request by Hon. Tubi Bidu. Is he in the House? Hon. Raso, is this the same request whose response was tabled in the morning? It would be superfluous to repeat the same.

Hon. Raso, I wanted to confirm if it is the same response. The Member was not present during the Morning Sitting. It was directed that the response be tabled, which you did.

Good. The response was tabled in the morning, and the matter will rest at that. The next response is from the Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations. Hon. George Gachagua had requested a Statement from the Committee. Is he in the House? If not, table the response.

What is out of order?

Hon. Member, I sympathise with you because you were unwell, but this House does not make pronouncements in vain. That response was tabled in the Morning Sitting. We cannot prosecute it again in the Afternoon Sitting.

No, I am not opening this matter again. We processed it in the morning, and it was dealt with. Hon. Chairman, do you want to contribute to the same?

That is done. Next Order. THE GOVERNMENT OWNED ENTERPRISES BILL THE QUALITY HEALTHCARE AND PATIENT SAFETY BILL THE KENYA JUDICIARY ACADEMY BILL SPECIAL MOTION APPROVAL OF NOMINEES FOR APPOINTMENT TO NATIONAL POLICE SERVICE COMMISSION 14th August 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 11

Hon. Members, given the heavy traffic in our galleries, allow me to recognise students and learners in the Public Gallery before Hon. Raso takes the Floor. We have students from the following schools: Kiandieri Secondary School (Kirinyaga Central Constituency, Kirinyaga County) , AIC Visa Oshwal (Baringo Central Constituency, Baringo County)...

Hon. Ngogoyo, you are totally out of order. Freeze where you are. (Question proposed) Member for Marakwet East, Hon. Bowen, you may have the Floor.

Member for Sirisia.

I would like to, again, recognise students of Tayari Secondary School from Molo, Nakuru County, seated in the gallery. I know that we had acknowledged them, but the cohort was so large that they were split into two. Allow me to welcome them to the House. Let us have the...

Next Order. [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) left the Chair] [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) took the Chair] THE COMPUTER MISUSE AND CYBERCRIMES (AMENDMENT) BILL 14th August 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 18

Thank you for your indulgence, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Pursuant to Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure regarding the deplorable condition of Elementaita–Miti Mingi–Mau Narok Road in Nakuru County. The Elementaita– Miti Mingi–Mau Narok...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Birth and Death Registration (Amendment) Bill 2024 be now read a Second Time. This is a very simple amendment that stemmed from last term, just about 2020. I brought a Motion on this Floor that was very well supported by many...

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. You can see that the extent of the support for this Bill cuts across counties, regions and parties. It is a matter that is very close to many of us. I want to thank my colleagues for all the comments and support they...

This is a personal statement. There will be no comments on it. Hon. Members, allow me to recognise the following schools in the Public Gallery: from Mbeere North, Embu County, and St. Mario School from Kisumu

Hon. Tongoyo, Chairman of the Committee, when will you bring the response?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Fatuma.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : It is so directed.

Hon. Donya, we will prosecute the responses as they are. If you have a pending one, kindly hold your horses. I will give you the opportunity thereafter. Let us have the Vice-Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations, Hon. Major (Rtd) Bashir.

Very well. Is the Member in the House? Yes, Hon. Ekwom.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : You have made your point, Member for Turkana North. Let us hear the Vice-Chairman first.

Hon. Ekwom, is that agreeable?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Thank you. Hon. Bashir, I will now indulge you on the other matter, which is not on my desk.

Hon. Bashir, I want to put this to a close. I have not personally listened to those sentiments. Therefore, I have no comment on the same. However, I want us to be parliamentary and wind up this debate in 30 seconds. Please, wind up.

Hon. Bashir, you know that there are many avenues of bringing such matters to this House. You are free to be on record if you want to bring a Motion, but I want to put the matter to rest at that point.

Hon. Clive, what is out of order? Hon. Clive Gisairo (Kitutu Saba, ODM) : Hon. Temporary Speaker, it is wrong for the Hon. Member to say that the former Deputy President should not step into this country. He needs to withdraw those remarks. He does not have such powers, and...

You have made your point, Hon. Oundo. I want us to make progress. I have guided Hon. Bashir. In case he wants this matter to be discussed as a Motion, he knows that there are avenues he can use to do so. However, I agree with Hon. Clive that he...

Hon. Bashir, Standing Order 107A says that a member commits an act of gross disorderly conduct if such member defies a ruling or direction of the speaker or chairperson of a committee. I have requested you to withdraw that statement and you have defied that ruling. Therefore, I am asking...

Hon. Members, before I give the opportunity to Hon. Naisula, allow me to recognise students of Nyali School, Nyali Constituency, Mombasa County, who are seated in the Public Gallery. Join me in welcoming them to Parliament. (Applause) Hon. Naisula, I also note that I am unable to see the Public...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Saney.

Thank you. Hon. (Dr) Oundo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Owen.

Hon. Owen has concluded it. The Departmental Committee on Energy, this Statement is not up to standard. Can you commit to doing better than you have done, specifically on Maralal, before you bring up the global issue?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Naisula.

Thank you. We will give the Committee a chance to bring that up next week. However, the Chairman can still make interventions even without coming to the Floor to sort out the immediate problem in Maralal. Hon. Mulanya, good? Hon. Members, before we get out of this Order, I will...

That will go to the Departmental Committee on Education. Hon. Gisairo.

That would be a good time, Hon. Mwenje, unless you are disputing.

You are debating the Statement? Hon. Mawathe, unless you are adding something useful to Hon. Mwenje.

Thank you. We should get the response immediately after we resume from recess. I know some Members are waiting for answers to pending statements. Hon. Donya.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Dr Kanyuithia, Departmental Committee on Agriculture.

Kindly fast-track it. Hon. Donya has raised this matter on this Floor not once. It is becoming an everyday thing. Hon. Saney, are you in the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives? (Hon. Ibrahim Saney raised his hand) I know you have a pending Response. Hold on. There is...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Saney.

Thank you. Let us hear from the Committee first why the Response has not come. Do we have any Member of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security? If there is no Member, the Deputy Leader of the Majority Party.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Saney.

Hon. Saney, any missing person is one too many, regardless of their stature or where they come from. We all have a right to life and a right to live wherever we want. The Cabinet Secretary of the Interior and National Administration is coming next week. Hon. Owen Baya, my...

You cannot use this Floor to direct your staff, Hon. Owen. (Hon. Geoffrey Wandeto raised his hand) Hon. Member for Tetu, are you on this one? I have seen you raising your hand. I do not know why you are raising your hand.

Hon. Owen, you have quite a task. Hon. Tongoyo has a lot of pending Responses to requests for statements. The other one is to the Departmental Committee on Labour. I do not see Hon. Chonga. You still have some duty to take up.

Thank you. Finally, Hon. Njeri.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : I have indulged you, but you should know that that Statement has not been filed with the Office of the Clerk. You should follow the right procedure. Before we go to the next Order, allow me to recognise students from Kabutiei Secondary School...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Timothy. Hon. Timothy Kipchumba (Marakwet West, Independent) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise to second. Thank you. (Question proposed) The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Owen.

Very well. Proceed, Hon. Makali Mulu.

Hon. Mwangi from Tetu, are you on this? You seem not. Okay. Hon. Bowen Kangogo, please proceed.

Hon. Nyenze, are you on this?

Very well. Hon. Zamzam.

Ukipeleka iwe viazi, haikuwi sawa. Maana yake inapotea. Alright, Hon. Members, before I give the Mover to reply, allow me to recognise in the Public Gallery, Blessed Joseph Allamano School from Likoni Constituency, Mombasa County. In the Speaker's Gallery, we have Golden Elites School from Kisumu Central, in Kisumu County....

Very well. We shall defer the putting of the Question to the next available time. (Putting of the Question deferred) Next Order.

Very well. Hon. Gitari.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Very well. (Question proposed) Before I indulge Hon. Members, allow me to recognise, in the Public Gallery, Arimi and Tumaini Schools from Molo Constituency, Nakuru County. I take this opportunity to welcome them to the House to observe the Proceedings. If you intend...

Hon. Jayne Kihara, are you on this one?

Very well, thank you. Hon. Makali.

Very well. Before I give the Floor to Hon. King’ara, I will indulge the Member for Molo. Many students from your Constituency have visited Parliament today. I will give you one minute.

Very well. Hon. King’ara.

Very well. Hon. King’ara.

That request is assented to. (Putting of the Question deferred) Hon. Members, Order 14 was subject to the decision of Order 13. We will therefore go to order 15 and defer Order 14 for another day. (Committee of the whole House on Consideration of Senate Amendment to the Land(Amendment) Bill...

The Member for Busia.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Makali.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Fatuma.

Okay, Hon. Members, I do not see more interest in this Motion. I will, therefore, ask the Mover to reply. (Hon. Catherine Omanyo spoke off-the-record) Member for Busia, you seconded this Motion.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Member for Busia, you should have expressed that when you seconded. You cannot support the same Motion again after seconding it. Therefore, let the Chair take this opportunity to clarify any points as you respond.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) : In accordance with Standing Order 53 (3) , we shall defer the putting of the Question on this Motion. (Putting of the question deferred)

This is a personal statement. There will be no comments on it. Hon. Members, allow me to recognise the following schools in the Public Gallery: THE MURDER OF MR MICHAEL ODHIAMBO OMAMBA

Hon. Tongoyo, Chairman of the Committee, when will you bring the response?

Hon. Fatuma.

It is so directed.

Hon. Donya, we will prosecute the responses as they are. If you have a pending one, kindly hold your horses. I will give you the opportunity thereafter. Let us have the Vice-Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations, Hon. Major (Rtd) Bashir.

Hon. Bashir, which statement are you responding to? Are you making another statement? 7th August 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 14

I was just confirming, Hon. Bashir. You know I serve in your Committee, and this is a House of records. I had called you to respond to a statement first. Kindly proceed with the response first. STATUS OF INVESTIGATIONS INTO TODONYANG MASSACRE

Very well. Is the Member in the House? Yes, Hon. Ekwom.

You have made your point, Member for Turkana North. Let us hear the Vice-Chairman first.

Hon. Ekwom, is that agreeable?

Thank you. Hon. Bashir, I will now indulge you on the other matter, which is not on my desk. PERSONAL STATEMENT PRESS CONFERENCE HELD BY FORMER DEPUTY PRESIDENT IN THE USA 7th August 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 16

Hon. Bashir, I want to put this to a close. I have not personally listened to those sentiments. Therefore, I have no comment on the same. However, I want us to be parliamentary and wind up this debate in 30 seconds. Please, wind up.

Hon. Bashir, you know that there are many avenues of bringing such matters to this House. You are free to be on record if you want to bring a Motion, but I want to put the matter to rest at that point.

Hon. Clive, what is out of order? Hon. Clive Gisairo (Kitutu Saba, ODM) : Hon. Temporary Speaker, it is wrong for the Hon. Member to say that the former Deputy President should not step into this country. He needs to withdraw those remarks. He does not have such powers, and...

You have made your point, Hon. Oundo. I want us to make progress. I have guided Hon. Bashir. In case he wants this matter to be discussed as a Motion, he knows that there are avenues he can use to do so. However, I agree with Hon. Clive that he...

Do not debate, Hon. Bashir. I did not ask for substantiation. I asked you to withdraw the last statement. You may say all the other things, but not the last statement.

Hon. Bashir, Standing Order 107A says that a member commits an act of gross disorderly conduct if such member defies a ruling or direction of the speaker or chairperson of a committee. I have requested you to withdraw that statement and you have defied that ruling. Therefore, I am asking...

Kindly make your statement as requested by Hon. Naisula, who is in the House. STATEMENTS MEASURES TO ADDRESS PERSISTENT POWER OUTAGES IN SAMBURU WEST CONSTITUENCY

Hon. Members, before I give the opportunity to Hon. Naisula, allow me to recognise students of Nyali School, Nyali Constituency, Mombasa County, who are seated in the Public Gallery. Join me in welcoming them to Parliament. (Applause)

Hon. Saney.

Thank you. Hon. (Dr) Oundo.

Hon. Owen.

Hon. Owen has concluded it. The Departmental Committee on Energy, this Statement is not up to standard. Can you commit to doing better than you have done, specifically on Maralal, before you bring up the global issue?

Hon. Naisula.

Thank you. We will give the Committee a chance to bring that up next week. However, the Chairman can still make interventions even without coming to the Floor to sort out the immediate problem in Maralal. Hon. Mulanya, good? Hon. Members, before we get out of this Order, I will...

That will go to the Departmental Committee on Education. Hon. Gisairo.

That would be a good time, Hon. Mwenje, unless you are disputing.

You are debating the Statement? Hon. Mawathe, unless you are adding something useful to Hon. Mwenje.

Thank you. We should get the response immediately after we resume from recess. I know some Members are waiting for answers to pending statements. Hon. Donya.

Dr Kanyuithia, Departmental Committee on Agriculture.

Hon. Chair, all you are telling Hon. Donya is that you have been unable to meet the Cabinet Secretary. Have you exhausted all constitutional routes, Article 125, and the Standing Orders?

Kindly fast-track it. Hon. Donya has raised this matter on this Floor not once. It is becoming an everyday thing. Hon. Saney, are you in the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives? (Hon. Ibrahim Saney raised his hand) I know you have a pending Response. Hold on. There is...

Hon. Saney. POINT OF ORDER DELAYED RESPONSE ON THE DISAPPEARANCE OF HUSSEIN ABDIRAHMAN MOHAMED

Thank you. Let us hear from the Committee first why the Response has not come. Do we have any Member of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security? If there is no Member, the Deputy Leader of the Majority Party.

Hon. Saney.

Hon. Saney, any missing person is one too many, regardless of their stature or where they come from. We all have a right to life and a right to live wherever we want. The Cabinet Secretary of the Interior and National Administration is coming next week. Hon. Owen Baya, my...

You cannot use this Floor to direct your staff, Hon. Owen. (Hon. Geoffrey Wandeto raised his hand) Hon. Member for Tetu, are you on this one? I have seen you raising your hand. I do not know why you are raising your hand.

My attention is on the intervention button. Member of Tetu, I do not have you on intervention. A point of order is an intervention, thank you. Continue, though POINT OF ORDER DELAYED RESPONSES

Hon. Owen, you have quite a task. Hon. Tongoyo has a lot of pending Responses to requests for statements. The other one is to 7th August 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 26 the Departmental Committee on Labour. I do not see Hon. Chonga. You still have some duty to take up.

Thank you. Finally, Hon. Njeri.

I have indulged you, but you should know that that Statement has not been filed with the Office of the Clerk. You should follow the right procedure. Before we go to the next Order, allow me to recognise students from Kabutiei Secondary School from Tinderet Constituency in Nandi County, and...

Hon. Timothy. Hon. Timothy Kipchumba (Marakwet West, Independent) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise to second. Thank you. (Question proposed) Hon. Owen.

Very well. Proceed, Hon. Makali Mulu.

Hon. Mwangi from Tetu, are you on this? You seem not. Okay. Hon. Bowen Kangogo, please proceed.

Hon. Nyenze, are you on this?

Very well. Hon. Zamzam.

Ukipeleka iwe viazi, haikuwi sawa. Maana yake inapotea. Alright, Hon. Members, before I give the Mover to reply, allow me to recognise in the Public Gallery, Blessed Joseph Allamano School from Likoni Constituency, Mombasa County. In the Speaker's Gallery, we have Golden Elites School from Kisumu Central, in Kisumu County....

Haya, yametosha basi.

Very well. We shall defer the putting of the Question to the next available time. (Putting of the Question deferred) Next Order. SENATE AMENDMENT TO THE LAND (AMENDMENT) BILL

Very well. Hon. Gitari.

Very well. (Question proposed) Before I indulge Hon. Members, allow me to recognise, in the Public Gallery, Arimi and Tumaini Schools from Molo Constituency, Nakuru County. I take this opportunity to welcome them to the House to observe the Proceedings. If you intend to speak on this, use the intervention...

Hon. Jayne Kihara, are you on this one?

Very well, thank you. Hon. Makali.

Very well. Before I give the Floor to Hon. King’ara, I will indulge the Member for Molo. Many students from your Constituency have visited Parliament today. I will give you one minute.

Very well. Hon. King’ara.

Very well. Hon. King’ara.

That request is assented to. (Putting of the Question deferred) Hon. Members, Order 14 was subject to the decision of Order 13. We will therefore go to order 15 and defer Order 14 for another day. (Committee of the whole House on Consideration of Senate Amendment to the Land(Amendment) Bill...

The Member for Busia.

Hon. Makali.

Hon. Fatuma.

Okay, Hon. Members, I do not see more interest in this Motion. I will, therefore, ask the Mover to reply. (Hon. Catherine Omanyo spoke off-the-record) Member for Busia, you seconded this Motion.

Member for Busia, you should have expressed that when you seconded. You cannot support the same Motion again after seconding it. Therefore, let the Chair take this opportunity to clarify any points as you respond.

In accordance with Standing Order 53 (3) , we shall defer the putting of the Question on this Motion. (Putting of the question deferred) 7th August 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 39 ADJOURNMENT