Martha Wangari

Thank you. Before we get to the next speaker, allow me to recognise, in the Public Gallery, Kaani Lions Girls High School, Kathiani Constituency, Machakos County. Join me in welcoming them to the House of Parliament to observe the proceedings of the House. (Applause)

Hon. Njeri, are you on this?

Hon. Basil, have you already spoken? (Hon. Robert Basil spoke off the record) Okay, you are still on. Hon. Bishop Kosgei.

The next chance will go to the Member of Parliament for Mbeere North, Hon. Wa Muthende.

Before we get to the next Member, allow me to recognise, in the Speaker’s Gallery this afternoon, learners and teachers from Ikutha Boys Senior School, Kitui South, Kitui County. Welcome to the House of Parliament as you observe our proceedings. Hon. Members, join me in welcoming them to the House....

The next speaker on this will be the Deputy Speaker, Hon. Boss.

Hon. Shakeel.

The Leader of Majority Party.

I agree with you, Leader of the Majority Party, in commending the Public Petitions Committee. For the first time, it is no longer a subject of negative publicity as it has been before. Keep it up. Next is Hon. Korere Sarah, Member for Laikipia North.

Hon. (Dr) Mutunga.

Member for Kilifi North.

Very well. Member for Funyula.

Very well. Hon. Members, I do not see any more interest on this matter. So, I will ask the Mover to reply.

Thank you very much. Hon. Members, I shall defer putting the question to the next appointed time. (Putting the question deferred) We shall re-organise the Order Paper a bit. Allow us to go to Order No. 14 and then we shall come back to Order No. 13. Hon. Marianne, I...

(Motion deferred)That is in order. We shall then automatically defer Order No.16 until we prosecute Order No.15 at the right time. Hon. Members, we shall go back to Order No. 13. THE FIRE AND RESCUE SERVICES PROFESSIONALS BILL Hon. Lochakapong.

Member for Yatta.

Member for Marakwet West. 17th February 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 34

Very well. Member for Funyula.

Very well. Member for Ruaraka, are you on this one?

Hon. Wamuchomba.

Just to agree with you, Hon. Wamuchomba, it is not only your constituency. Today, I lost a child in a fire at a place called Kambi Mahindi in my constituency.

Very well. Hon. Murugara, are you on this debate? (Hon. George Murugara spoke off the record) No, you have just walked in. Hon. Members, I do not see further interest in this specific Bill. I will, therefore, allow Hon. Lochakapong to reply.

Very well. We shall defer putting the Question on this specific Bill and proceed to the next Order. (Putting the question deferred) ADOPTION OF REPORT ON BANNING OF TIKTOK IN KENYA Chairperson of Public Petitions Committee, Hon. Karemba.

Member for Ruaraka.

Whip of the Minority Party.

Very well. Hon. Murugara.

Very well. Hon. Wandeto.

Very well said. Just to guide you, Member for Tetu, this Report does not recommend a ban. It recommends regulation. That is simply for the record. Hon. Members, just to guide you, once you are given the Floor, you will have five minutes to contribute. Kindly organise your thoughts accordingly....

Very well. Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu.

Thank you. Hon. Mayaka.

Thank you. Member for Central Imenti.

Member for West Mugirango.

Thank you. Through you, I have learnt that there is a new category of married but unaccompanied people. Member for Nyeri Town, Hon. Mathenge.

Thank you very much. Hon. Mule.

I said time is five minutes. Your time is up. Hon. Oundo.

Hon. Njeri.

Hon. Ibrahim Saney.

Thank you very much, Hon. Saney. As a Christian, Ash Wednesday is not just one day; it is followed by the Lenten Season. The Lenten Season will go hand in hand with Ramadhan. Hon. Members, I know there is a lot of interest in this Motion, but unfortunately, our time...

Asante sana, Mhe. Spika. Naomba pia niwapongeze wenzetu ambao wamechaguliwa kuwa wawakilishi wa maeneo bunge mbali mbali. Nawakaribirisha Wabunge hao watano ambao wamejiunga nasi hapa kwa mara ya kwanza, pamoja na Mhe. Harrison, ambaye ameweza kuchaguliwa kwa mara nyingine. Najua mambo mengi yamesemwa, lakini ningependa kusema mawili tu, kwani muda...

Hon. Owen Baya.

Member for Funyula.

Member for Buuri.

Let us have Hon. John Paul.

There being no more interest in this, I call upon the mover to reply.

Very well, Hon. Members, the putting of the question will be deferred. (Putting of the question deferred) Next Order. ADOPTION OF FIFTH REPORT ON AUDITED ACCOUNTS FOR THE COMMODITIES FUND FOR FYS 2018/2019 TO 2021/2022 Committee on its consideration of the Report of the Auditor-General on the (Motion deferred)We will...

Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Hon. Chepkonga, do not walk out of the chamber when the Bell is ringing. Order, Members. (Hon. Lillian Siyoi crossed the Floor without bowing) Member for Trans Nzoia County, you are totally out of order. Go to the Bar and bow. Hon. Members, we can begin the...

Very well. Next order. NOTICE OF MOTION AVOCADO FARMING AND PROCESSING ACTIVITIES The Member for Maragua, Hon. Wamaua.

Thank you, Hon. Member for Maragua. Hon. Members, before we go to Order No.7, we will go to Order No.8; kindly call it out. THE AGRICULTURAL PROFESSIONALS REGISTRATION AND LICENSING BILL

On this matter, I will indulge two Members who had similar issues. Hon. Makilap, you have one minute to make your point. I will give the next chance to Hon. Rutto.

You have made your point. This Statement will go to the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security to be responded to in two weeks. Next is the Member for Kirinyaga Central. (Hon. David Kiplagat spoke off the record) Hon. DK, what is it?

Hon. DK, you have made your point. I will give it a maximum of two weeks, but the Committee should table a preliminary response in a week. The Committee is so directed. Member for Kirinyaga Central. (Hon. Joseph Makilap spoke off the record) Hon. Makilap, I gave you a chance...

Very well. Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations. I see the Vice-Chairperson. This is a serious issue. I know a few of us have constituents who have been lured to go to Russia, but ended up in the battlefront without their knowledge or assent. Kindly, can you provide...

Hon. Members, we will go to the Member for Machakos County, Hon. Joyce Kamene. POLLUTION BY QUARRIES AND TYRE FACTORIES IN MACHAKOS COUNTY 19th November 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 5 A certified version of this Report

Is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Environment, Forestry and Mining in the House? What about the Vice-Chairperson or leadership? Let it be communicated to the Committee that they will bring the response within two weeks. Member for Nandi Hills. IMPLEMENTATION AND MANAGEMENT OF PUBLIC PROCUREMENT CAPACITY BUILDING LEVY

Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, bring the response in two weeks. OWNERSHIP STATUS OF A PARCEL OF LAND IN KWALE COUNTY Member for Kinango, Hon. Gonzi Rai.

Very well. Before the next Statement, allow me to recognise, in the Speaker's Gallery, Family Life District Pathfinders, Seventh-Day Adventist (SDA) , Mombasa, from Nyali Constituency, Mombasa County. You are welcome to observe the proceedings of the House. Member for Igembe North. Oh, hold on, Hon. Taitumu. Hon. Gonzi Rai,...

Very well. That will be responded to by the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure in two weeks.

Hon. Wanjiku, we have not got to the responses yet. I assure you that you are on the list to be responded to. It is well taken care of, and you will have your response at the right time. Hon. Members, we still have a few more requests for Statements....

Hon. Member, the Request for Statement will go to the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning. The response should be here in two weeks’ time. Next is a Request for Statement by the Member for Mandera South, Hon. Abdul Haro. STATUS OF ELECTRICITY CONNECTIVITY IN KOTULO 19th November 2025...

The response to the Request for Statement will be provided by the Departmental Committee on Energy in two weeks’ time. Clerk’s Office, please, ensure that this is transmitted to the relevant committee clerks as I do not see the Chairpersons here. The next Request for Statement is by the Member...

The response to the Request for Statement will be provided by the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure in two weeks’ time. Next is a Request for Statement by Hon. Bady Twalib. SEVERE WATER SHORTAGE AFFECTING RESIDENTS OF JOMVU CONSTITUENCY

Hon. Twalib, you will not do the Speaker’s job. Give the Departmental Committee on Blue Economy, Water and Irrigation time to respond. I direct that they do so within two weeks.

Is it on the same matter? I will not indulge in any debate on the statement requests. (Hon. Dorice Donya spoke off the record) Hon. Donya, you are out of order. (Loud consultations)

Hon. Wamboka, kindly, give Hon. Muge the Floor to prosecute her Statement request. STATUS OF LAND LEASES IN NANDI COUNTY

Very well. This also goes to the Departmental Committee on Lands. All chairpersons, note that we are headed to the long recess. Therefore, all these Requests for Statements should be responded to before we break for recess. Hon. Adow, you also have a Request for Statement. DISAPPEARANCE OF PERSONS

Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security, bring a response within two weeks. The next request is by Hon. Wamaua. You do not have a request? Hon. Members, we will go to responses to Requests for Statements. We will start with the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health, Hon....

Before I indulge Hon. Kaguchia, allow me first to recognise students studying Security and Criminology from Mount Kenya University, Thika Town Constituency, Kiambu County, seated in the Speaker’s Gallery. We welcome you to observe the proceedings of the House. Hon. Nyikal, allow me to indulge Hon. Kaguchia before we move...

Order, Hon. Kaguchia. Order, Hon. Members. You do not have to raise your hands. You are not in a classroom. Use your intervention buttons.

Hon. Rahim.

You have made your point. Hon. CNN.

Member for Machakos, you do not have to shout. Please press the intervention button, and I will give you an opportunity. Let us have Hon. Nyamai.

Hon. Kaguchia, you have done well in seeking clarification, but several points of order have been raised. Kindly restrict yourself to Standing Order 91 on responsibility for statements of fact. If you have enough data to convince the House, I will give you the Floor.

Hon. Kaguchia, do not make more allegations than you can prove already. Restrict yourself to that. What is out of order, Hon. Marianne?

Hon. Kaguchia, bring that evidence on record in today’s afternoon sitting as guided under Standing Order 91 (2) . In the meantime, I will give Hon. Nyikal because issues for clarification have been raised. Ignore the part that is in dispute. (Loud consultations)Committee on Health. Hon. Nyikal.

Hon. Kaguchia.

Hon. Rahim, what is out of order?

Thank you. You have made your point. It is for the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Health and the Chair of the Committee on Implementation, because we have quite a number of pronouncements from this

Hon. Kaguchia, you have made your point. You know how to ask a Question to the Cabinet Secretary. Follow the procedure to do that. In the meantime, Hon. Nyikal, respond to budgeting. The Committee also has the discretion to invite the Cabinet Secretary, the Principal Secretary, or both to reply...

Very well. Chairman, you have another response on a similar matter. We will not spend so much time on this. It is the response to Hon. Joyce Kamene. BLOOD DONATION AND TRANSFUSION SERVICES AT KENYATTA NATIONAL HOSPITAL

Verbatim text unavailable — read this contribution in the official Hansard.

Hon. Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Births and Deaths Registration (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly No.37 of 2024) and its approval thereof with amendments. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Racheal Nyamai) : Thank you, Hon. Members. (Question proposed)...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Basic Education (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.59 of 2023) and approved the same with amendments.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Beatrice Kemei, Member for Kericho County, to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Births and Deaths Registration (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.37 of 2024) be now read a Third Time and request Hon. Beatrice Kemei to second. Hon. Beatrice Kemei (Kericho County, UDA) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I second. (Question proposed)...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for indulging me before the Hon. Chairperson as I also support Hon. Jayne Kihara. We had canvassed this matter before we went on recess when we were discussing the issue of capitation. The matter of sending students home was raised on the Floor of the House...

He looks surprised. Member for Kathiani, proceed.

Very well. (Question proposed) Hon. Sunkuli.

Very well. Hon. Members, I note that some Members have their cards inserted, but they are not in the House. Hon. Saney of Wajir North? Hon. Yusuf Hassan? Hon. Ngusya, CNN, are you willing to speak on this matter? (Hon. Charles Nguna spoke off the record) If not, Hon. Kaguchia?...

Hon. Owen Baya.

Very well. Hon. CNN? You are not on this. If there is no more interest on this… (Hon. Geoffrey Wandeto raised his hand) Member for Tetu.

Very well. There being no more interest on this, I call upon the Mover to reply.

Very well. We defer the putting of the question until an appropriate time. (Putting of the Question deferred) Hon. Members, before we proceed to Order No.11, we shall step down (ii) and deal with (i) under Order No.11. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) left...

Next Order. THE MATERNAL NEWBORN AND CHILD HEALTH BILL 4th November 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 36 This Bill was moved by the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health. Who was on the Floor?

Hold on, Hon. Baya. Hon. Fatuma had a balance of five minutes, but she is not in the House and so, we will continue. Hon. Baya, is your contribution on this Bill? Hon. Owen Baya (Kilifi North, UDA) : Yes. I request you to call upon the Mover to reply....

Very well. We shall defer the putting of the Question. (Putting of the Question deferred) APPROVAL OF THE NATIONAL GREEN FISCAL INCENTIVES POLICY FRAMEWORK (Motion deferred)Is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Environment, Forestry and Mining present? He is not in the House. Therefore, we shall defer that Order....

Hon. Sabina Chege.

Very well. (Question proposed) Member for Tetu.

Member for Kitui Central, Dr Makali.

Very well. Member for Runyenjes, Hon. Eric.

Hon. Baya.

Hon. Owen, you address the Speaker. 4th November 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 45

Member for Tetu, what is out of order?

Thank you. Next is the Member for Ruiru, Hon. King’ara.

Very well. Member for Seme.

Thank you very much. Member for Gatanga.

Hon. Member for Gatanga, a point of order has been raised, but you have not addressed it. Member for Kilifi North.

Hon. Owen, do not do the work of the Temporary Speaker. Raise the point of order. Hon. Muriu, can you substantiate and also note that the Standing Orders do not accept newspapers as sources of information? So, be very careful about the utterances you make on the Floor. If you...

Member for Gatanga, the issue of lower payouts is not in debate or in question. It has not been challenged. The problem that has been challenged is the diplomatic relationship between Kenya and the Sudanese market.

Member for Gatanga, just for direction, the issue of working with militia will be expunged from the Hansard until you can bring proper information to the House.

Very well. Hon. Caroli.

Thank you very much. Member for Laikipia East, Hon. Mwangi Kiunjuri.

Very well. Member for Manyatta, Hon. John Gitonga.

Order, Hon. Mukunji. You have a three-minute balance. 4th November 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 52 ADJOURNMENT Order, Hon. Members. The time being 7.00 p.m., this House stands adjourned until Wednesday, 5th November 2025, at 9.30

Hon. Speaker, last week, we conversed on this matter on this Floor quite extensively. It is very unfortunate that we are still talking about school capitation. The scandal that is simmering is quite major. If the money has left the National Treasury, where is that money sitting today? By next...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Sometimes, I wonder if the Cabinet Secretaries take any time to go to the ground before responding to these statements. That road has been under construction since 2017. They are saying that it is now at 14th October 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 15 81 per cent....

Very well. Hon. Members, I am not sure whether those who are logged in are for this Motion. Hon. Member for Navakholo, are you here? No. I will give Hon. Member for Kitui Central, Dr Makali Mulu. Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu (Kitui Central, WDM) ; Thank you so much, Hon....

Member for Mukurweini.

Your time is up. Member for Wajir North, Hon, Saney.

Member for Ugenya Constituency, Hon. David Ochieng’.

Member for Limuru Constituency, Hon. Kiragu.

Hon. Jematiah.

Very well. There being no further interest in this matter, I call the upon the mover to reply. Hon. Irene Mayaka, I have been generous. Why would you need to donate when I was right here? Kindly reply.

(Motion deferred)Is it the Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Environment, Forestry, and Mining? It was supposed to be moved by Hon. Kawaya, but we will defer that Order. Next Order. 14th October 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 31 THE TEA (AMENDMENT) BILL (Senate Bill No.1 of 2023) The co-sponsor of this Bill...

Okay, you have made your point.

I also do not think it is factual that children do not get burials. I have witnessed them. Their caskets are the heaviest. Even if it is a one-day old or two-day old child, it is buried. Hon. Nyikal, can you explain the context?

Do not debate. If it is a point of order, raise a point of order. Hon. Nyikal.

Hon. Caroli.

The Minority Whip.

Very well. Hon. Mayaka.

Hon. Makali Mulu.

Hon. Deputy Speaker, may I seek your guidance on whether we can comment on this Petition now or wait until you go through the next one?

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I want to comment on the first Petition and support the petitioners. As you know, it is rare for the Ministry of Education to appear here to address a matter of funding for Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics (STEM) . We heard them discuss issues...

Hon. Millie, I have indulged you because I agree with you that she is one of the young women who are doing very well. We have taken note of that. Hon. Members, let us go back to Order No. 7 Hon. Member for Marsabit County, go ahead with your Request...

Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security. How long do you need for both this one and the Request for a Statement by the Member for Nandi? 9th October 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 20

Hon. Muge, when I look through your request for a statement, it looks like a statement to me. But when you mention the word inquiry, it becomes something else. Can you confirm that it is a matter of semantics, or that you meant inquiry? That means, of course, a deeper...

Chairperson, I think you are right, and what Hon. Muge is requesting is more than just a statement. I will give it a maximum of 60 days, as the inquiry is more in-depth and requires additional time and details. Let me give it 60 days.

All right, we will go to the next request for a statement as per the Order Paper. Member for North Horr, take the Floor and. PLIGHT OF IDPS IN MARSABIT COUNTY

That is in order. Next is a request for a Statement by the Member for Kiambu, Hon. Machua. DELAYED PAYMENT OF A SUBCONTRACTOR

Very well. I do not see the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations, nor the Vice-Chairperson. In this case, I will task Whip of the Minority Party, Hon. Millie Odhiambo, who is a Member of that Committee, with obtaining the response by the first week...

I do not want to allow comments on Statements. You know our Standing Orders. Hon. Bowen, what do you mean by saying that you do not want to comment? If it is not a comment, then it is a statement.

Hon. Bowen, you can bring a Statement to that effect. The Member is very specific about the Wagalla Massacre victims. He has said this is the second time he has requested this Statement. We should allow him to get the response specifically on the Wagalla Massacre victims. Whip of the...

Perfect. Where has the Chairperson disappeared to? The good thing is that the requests for Statements on Wagalla Massacre victims and IDPs are all going to the same Committee. The Statement on IDPs will be considered by the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security. The Departmental Committee on Justice...

It is already committed to the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs. Do we have the Chairperson? He is not here. Is there any Member of the Committee? Hon. TJ, you are a senior Member of that Committee. Can you hold a brief for your Chairman?

Thank you. Member for Kipipiri. Hon Members, you can now see the need for having your cards. You make the work of the Clerks-at-the-Table very difficult when they keep looking for where you are seated. DELAYED CONSTRUCTION OF A ROAD IN KIPIPIRI CONSTITUENCY

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure.

What is out of order, Hon. Mwenje?

You have made your point. Hon. GK, do you want to say something about it?

On this, Hon. Mwenje, I have indulged you. Hon. Chairperson, on this one, because it is a very live issue in this House, please come with a response on it. I know you can do it from the Ministry because it is urgent and important. Member for Luanda, request for...

Hon. GK?

Very well. We now go to statements to be responded to. We will start with Hon. Tongoyo. Where is he? He seems not to be in. Hon. GK, can you go first if you are ready? You have the Floor. FUNDING FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A ROAD IN WAJIR COUNTY

Before I give the Member for Tarbaj the Floor, allow me to recognise in the Public Gallery, if they are still there, students from Oldonyo Nyokie Primary School, Kajiado West Constituency, Kajiado County. Kindly be upstanding if I have mentioned you in the Gallery. Allow me to join other Members...

Hon. G.K., do you have that information?

Member for Tarbaj, the rest of the details can be discussed with the Committee in a tripartite meeting with the Ministry.

Very well. Member for Kajiado North, why are you lifting your hand?

Hon. G.K., do you have that answer?

Very well, first week after recess. Member for Wajir East, are you in the House? The one with the question being responded to? If he is not in the House, the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security, kindly table the response for the Member. Do not...

Hon. Chairman, I have given direction. If you have a statement to be responded to, you are supposed to be in the House. Allow us to table it. It remains the property of the House. The Member can access it from the Table Office, and if there is any follow-up,...

Very well. We have exhausted that Order. We can go to the next one. THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS (AMENDMENT) BILL This is being moved by Hon. Lochakapong. You have the Floor.

Thank you. Hon. Members, again, I remind you to carry your cards to this House. Otherwise, you will be nomadic, like the Member for Ganze. Go ahead, Member for Ganze.

Member for Ganze, a point of order has been raised. Hon. Member for Funyula, you know Standing Order 80 also has a (2) . So, I will allow him to finish because he is seconding, but that is a very important Standing Order, and I think we need to keep...

Order, Hon. Wanjiku! (Question proposed) Hon. Member for Wajir North, are you on this one, or on a point of order?

Member for Kitui Central, Dr Makali.

Member for Dagoretti South.

Hon. Member for Chesumei Constituency. Is he not in the House? Hon. Member for Kiminini Constituency.

Member of Parliament for Funyula.

Hon. KJ, what is your point of order?

Hon. Oundo, just to be on record because I think it is important: maybe that would have been a point of information. I have checked the Standing Orders and Article 114 of the Constitution. So, it is properly before the House.

I was consulting, and I know that by the time this Bill was referred to this House, there had been proper consultation between the two Speakers. The Constitution and Standing Orders state that before a Bill is tabled in either House, the Speaker must agree on two things: first, whether...

Member for Kapenguria, Hon. Samuel Moroto. (Hon. Mark Mwenje and Hon. John Kiarie spoke off the record) Hon. Members, we are all in agreement in terms of what devolution should have done by now. I believe we all agree on that one. By saying Nairobi City County, I do not...

Member for Marsabit, are you on this one?

Member for Luanda.

Member for Baringo County, Hon. Jematiah.

Very well. The Member for Seme.

Very well. Member for Embakasi West, Hon. Mwenje.

Very well. Member for Suba North.

Hon. Millie, note that you only have 30 seconds to conclude. Proceed, Hon KJ.

Hon. Millie, you have two minutes to wind up.

Hon. Millie, you have made your point. Member for Karachuonyo, Hon. Andrew Okuome. (Hon. Wanjiku Muhia consulted loudly with Hon. Adipo Okuome) Member for Karachuonyo, do not be bullied by the Member for Kipipiri. You have the right to make a contribution. Go ahead, please.

You have every right. Before I call the mover to reply, I note that serious constitutional issues have been raised by both Hon. Millie Odhiambo and Hon. Oundo. We will transmit that for the Hon. Speaker to make a communication on those matters. It is important for clarity and setting...

Very well. We shall defer putting the question to the next appropriate time. (Putting of the question deferred) Next order. APPROVAL OF THE NATIONAL GREEN FISCAL INCENTIVES POLICY FRAMEWORK 9th October 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 48 the Table of the House on Tuesday, 30th September 2025 and approves Sessional Paper...

Very well, Member for Marsabit.

Very well. (Question proposed) We will start with the Member for Seme. The microphone is roving. It is back to you.

Hon. KJ?

Hon. Members, this Motion has a balance of two hours. Hon. KJ, you will have your balance of two minutes when it is put in the Order Paper. ADJOURNMENT Hon. Members, the time being

Thank you very much, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I would also like to appreciate the Speaker and the Clerk because this Session of Parliament has done very well in allowing as many students and learners as possible to come and observe the proceedings of this House. Maybe the handwriting was not...

On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Martha, what is your point of order? Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. We appreciate the ruling. I am sorry because I was trying to reach Hon. Omboko, who had reached out to me. I was not aware he had not written...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker for the reconsideration. I beg to ask the Cabinet Secretary for Education the following Question: [The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Gladys Boss) left the Chair] [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) in the Chair]

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. However necessary this verification process was, its timing was an inconvenience because we have the Kenya National Examinations Council (KNEC) , the Kenya Primary School Education Assessment (KPSEA) , the Kenya Junior School Education Assessment (KJSEA) and the Kenya Certificate of Secondary Education (KCSE) examinations,...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I figure you are giving me to ask the next… Order, Hon. Wanyonyi. You will get your chance, relax. Proceed. Do you want me to ask the next Question? No, do you want any more clarification? Just a point of information. I have heard the...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. To be on record, I support you on accessibility. This Cabinet Secretary responds to Members, even 8th October 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 28 on the phone, if you have a burning issue. Perhaps, in your direction, you can align this with what Hon. Nyikal has...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. On the last one, Cabinet Secretary, it would not be official for them to complain openly and say they have received money. This matter was very heated on the Floor. At that time, the music festivals were in Meru. Many schools were stranded. That is...

Cabinet Secretary. The Cabinet Secretary, Ministry for Education (Mr Julius Ogamba) : Thank you. I beg to respond to the four questions as follows. First, we wish to clarify that there has not been a decision to reduce capitation funding for primary and secondary schools in Kenya. The approved capitation...

Hoja ya nidhamu, Mhe. Spika wa Muda.

Mhe. Spika wa Muda, ukitoka mwambaoni, mahali Mbunge wa Matuga ametoka, ingawa wewe ni mtaalam wa Kiswahili yote, tunaelewa unafaa kuwa na ujuzi kuliko sisi tuliotoka bara. Lakini la muhimu tufahamu kuwa ni Kanuni za Kudumu za hii Nyumba ambazo zimetuamrisha kuwa huwezi kutumia lugha mbili tofauti. Kama umeanza kwa...

Mover, you have an amendment. Member for Kesses, you are nomadic.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Privatisation Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.36 of 2025) , and approved the same with amendments.

Thank you Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole House has considered the Privatisation Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 36 of 2025) , and approved the same with amendments.