David Ouma Ochieng'

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Kamukunji.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Next is the Member for Narok North.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Next is Hon. Makilap.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Karachuonyo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Kihara, now you know.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Naivasha Constituency, what is out of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Hon. Mathenge, explain to the Member for Naivasha what “Mafia House” means.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Nyeri Town Constituency.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Kipipiri Constituency.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Dagoretti South.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Back to you, Hon. Oundo. I think you are winding up.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Okay. You have to inform him in a minute because you have already contributed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Oundo, there is a request by the Member for Uasin Gishu County to inform you. Do you want to be informed by her?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well said. Member for Funyula.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Do you want to be informed by Hon. Osoro?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) This chance goes to the Member for Mandera South. He is the first on the requests list. I will not encourage Members to raise their hands. I have a list that I will follow. Do not raise your hand and do not come to...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Uasin Gishu.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) It should be known that we are discussing a Bill related to healthcare. We are not discussing lawyers’ fee. I direct you to proceed with your contribution the way it was going on before the interruptions.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Hon. Osoro, you shall proceed with your debate regardless of what the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Health does.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Okay, Hon. Gichohi. I will have my eyes on the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health and ensure that he does the right thing. Hon. Osoro, go on.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Is that the Member for Mukurweini?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Emurua Dikirr, I am sure you will have a chance to debate and be able to make that point. (Hon. Silvanus Osoro spoke off the record) Order, Hon. Osoro! Take your seat. No, it is not done like that. You do not...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) What is out of order? (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Osoro, did you finish your contribution?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Okay, go ahead. What is your point of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Kisumu East, you want to contribute on this?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you very much. Hon. Members, the debate on this Bill is done. The time allocated to it has lapsed. I have asked the Mover to reply the next time this Bill will be called out. Therefore, the Mover will reply next time the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Shakeel, I will interrupt your presentation. (The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) spoke off record)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) When the Motion comes up next, you will have a balance of five minutes. ADJOURNMENT The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, the time being 1.00

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Hassan, Member for Kamukunji. We cannot see your card. Go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Debate on this Motion is now open and the first person to contribute is the Member of Parliament for Bureti, Hon. Kibet Komingoi.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Shakeel you only have two minutes.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Kisumu East.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I called out the Member for Makueni, who I think to be you.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Kigumo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Makueni. This Member is in the House!

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Okay. That is well noted. Go on, Hon. Kihara.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)(Technical hitch)Hon. Didmus Barasa, is it true that you did not get a chance to appear before the Departmental Committee on Health on this Bill? Do you have your card? Just put it in somewhere. Okay. Go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) The issue is not whether you appeared or not. The issue is whether you were invited to appear before the Committee. Did you get any invitation?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) It cannot happen. But proceed with your contribution.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) The Member for Naivasha.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Jayne Kihara, you have said that the Mover of this Bill was not called to appear before the Committee. Is it the factual position? Have you checked with the Mover?

Hon. Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Okay. Let us have the Member for Kaiti.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Lastly, the Member for Kisumu West.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Very well. Hon. Members, the Question on the proposed amendment by Hon. Beatrice Kemei will be put during the next time when this Motion is considered. The Mover of the Motion will also be asked to reply when the Motion will be slated next...

Hon. Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Kangema.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Kajiado.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You have 30 seconds.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Maybe it is time to also bite the bullet and report such matters to the police. You may not report some of these matters because you fear showing your face. Maybe, it is time to draw a red line and report the matter, so...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Teso South.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Member for Baringo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. I hope ladies carry handkerchiefs too. This chance goes to the Member for Bureti.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well spoken. Member for Mbeere North. Members, take note that I am just holding this list. I am not in the mood of doing anything to fit in someone. I will just follow it. There are very few of us remaining. If you take...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Next is the Member of Parliament for Kamukunji.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Thank you. We will now have the Member of Parliament for Dagoretti North.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Keep going and continue leading. Next is the Member of Parliament for Samburu East.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Robi, the microphone next to you may work. Mhe. Mathias Robi (Kuria West, UDA) : Asante Mhe. Spika wa Muda kwa kunipatia nafasi hii ili pia niweze kuchangia hii Ripoti ambayo imeletwa katika Bunge hili. Ripoti hii ni nzuri sana katika nchi yetu...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Member, just to remind you that the Motion we are discussing has no video or anything to it. It seems every Member wants to talk about it; basically, the more you do it, the more you spread the video. This chance goes to...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for West Mugirango. 20th April 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 31

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Starehe.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) The Member for Elgeyo Marakwet.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Okay. I hope Members have the proposed amendment by the Member for Kericho County. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, I direct that we go on with debate on this matter the way it is. We cannot...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Go ahead. Have you already seconded the amendment?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you very much. Members, you realise that she has just… (Loud consultations)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Allow her to move her amendment. She is moving an amendment, so allow her to do so. Go ahead, Hon. Kemei. You have the Floor.

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I thank the Committee for a very well-done report on the approval of Dr. David Oginde. Fighting corruption requires someone who believes that you can change a corrupt system. It requires someone who believes that fighting corruption needs leadership, someone...

Hon. Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Okay. Let us have the Member for Kaiti.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Lastly, the Member for Kisumu West.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Very well. Hon. Members, the Question on the proposed amendment by Hon. Beatrice Kemei will be put during the next time when this Motion is considered. The Mover of the Motion will also be asked to reply when the Motion will be slated next...

Hon. Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Kangema.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Kajiado.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You have 30 seconds.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Maybe it is time to also bite the bullet and report such matters to the police. You may not report some of these matters because you fear showing your face. Maybe, it is time to draw a red line and report the matter, so...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Teso South.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Member for Baringo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. I hope ladies carry handkerchiefs too. This chance goes to the Member for Bureti.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well spoken. Member for Mbeere North. Members, take note that I am just holding this list. I am not in the mood of doing anything to fit in someone. I will just follow it. There are very few of us remaining. If you take...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Next is the Member of Parliament for Kamukunji.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Thank you. We will now have the Member of Parliament for Dagoretti North.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Keep going and continue leading. Next is the Member of Parliament for Samburu East.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Robi, the microphone next to you may work. Mhe. Mathias Robi (Kuria West, UDA) : Asante Mhe. Spika wa Muda kwa kunipatia nafasi hii ili pia niweze kuchangia hii Ripoti ambayo imeletwa katika Bunge hili. Ripoti hii ni nzuri sana katika nchi yetu...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Member, just to remind you that the Motion we are discussing has no video or anything to it. It seems every Member wants to talk about it; basically, the more you do it, the more you spread the video. This chance goes to...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for West Mugirango. 20th April 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 31

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Starehe.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) The Member for Elgeyo Marakwet.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Okay. I hope Members have the proposed amendment by the Member for Kericho County. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, I direct that we go on with debate on this matter the way it is. We cannot...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Go ahead. Have you already seconded the amendment?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you very much. Members, you realise that she has just… (Loud consultations)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Allow her to move her amendment. She is moving an amendment, so allow her to do so. Go ahead, Hon. Kemei. You have the Floor.

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I thank the Committee for a very well-done report on the approval of Dr. David Oginde. Fighting corruption requires someone who believes that you can change a corrupt system. It requires someone who believes that fighting corruption needs leadership, someone...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you, Hon. Wamuratha. You will have the balance of your time in the next Sitting when this Bill will be deliberated upon. Time is up. You will have the first chance when the Bill is discussed next. ADJOURNMENT 19th April 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you so much, Hon. Speaker. This is one of the geniuses under the new Constitution, that monies go to the grassroots regardless of who is the President or who sits where. That is why the Division of Revenue Bill comes to this Floor every...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Atandi, I do not know whether the Government is begging from these people.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Asante sana. Member for Alego Usonga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Waheshimiwa Wabunge, kwa kuwa sasa ni saa saba, Bunge hili litaahirishwa hadi leo, Jumatano, Tarehe 15 Machi 2023, saa nane na nusu. Bunge liliahirishwa saa 7.02 mchana. 15th March 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 37 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)Published by Clerk of the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Order, Hon Ngitit, you will have the balance of your time next time this Motion comes up because our time is up for today.

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Thank you, Member for Turkana.

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Makueni County.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Member for Kuria East. 15th March 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 34

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Is the Member for Samburu East in the House?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Atandi, order! You are completely out of order. If you want to discuss the person of the Chief Justice, you must bring a substantive Motion to be approved by the Speaker. Would you now wind up your contribution on this matter?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Atandi, you can make your point.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order, Order, Hon. Baya. What is your point of order? Hon. Atandi, take your seat. Go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well done. I think you have…

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)Order, Members. Order, Order!

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)Order, Hon. Atandi! Order!

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Atandi, order! You could make your point without these sideshows sometimes. I will now request you to withdraw the statement about temporary presidency and the President going around begging.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Atandi, you could make your point without… 15th March 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 32

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Baya, what is out of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Naivasha. Mhe. Jayne Kihara (Naivasha, UDA) : Bw. Spika wa Muda, nashukuru kwa kunipa nafasi hii ili nizungumzie jambo hili ambalo ni la kusikitisha sana. Kama nchi au dunia, tumefikia wakati wa kuzungumzia mambo ya ushoga na usagaji. Kama Bibilia inavyosema, wakati...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You are definitely out of order, Hon. Kitayama. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Kitayama, what is out of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, I am following this list. It does not matter what you do. I will follow the list that I have here. So, anybody who comes up here should know that you will definitely not get a chance because you came to see...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) The Member for Bomet East has been away, but has been on the queue. Hon. Richard Yegon, have the Floor.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Next on my list is the Member for Malindi.

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Chairlady, as regards the order of the name of the Committee, instead of “Water, Blue Economy and Irrigation” I want to persuade the Chairperson that, that is just a matter of nomenclature. If you look at our Second Schedule, Blue Economy appears as the...

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Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the National Assembly Standing Orders and approval of the same with amendments. 9th March 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 22 [The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Gladys Boss) in the Chair]...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Omboko to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of the whole House.

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Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Chairlady, these amendments relate purely to Cabinet Secretaries. I want to assure the Member that that paragraph means, for example, some years back in the last Parliament we had His Excellency Jakaya Kikwete in the country. We had to get a place for him...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG)

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I wish to move the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Sixth Report of the Procedure and House Rules Committee on Amendments to the Standing Orders, laid on the Table of the House on Wednesday, 8th March 2023 and pursuant to...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG)

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) I beg to move: THAT, Standing Order 42 (B) be amended— Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG)

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) The reason this was important is we are saying that Questions are going to be answered within 14 days. Questions are asked in advance. The only question that can be asked on the spur of the moment are follow up questions. You cannot ask a...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Chairlady, as regards the order of the name of the Committee, instead of “Water, Blue Economy and Irrigation” I want to persuade the Chairperson that, that is just a matter of nomenclature. If you look at our Second Schedule, Blue Economy appears as the...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG)

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG)

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG)

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the National Assembly Standing Orders and approval of the same with amendments. 9th March 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 22 [The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Gladys Boss) in the Chair]...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Omboko to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG)

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG)

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG)

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG)

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Chairlady, these amendments relate purely to Cabinet Secretaries. I want to assure the Member that that paragraph means, for example, some years back in the last Parliament we had His Excellency Jakaya Kikwete in the country. We had to get a place for him...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG)

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I wish to move the following Motion: THAT, this House adopts the Sixth Report of the Procedure and House Rules Committee on Amendments to the Standing Orders, laid on the Table of the House on Wednesday, 8th March 2023 and pursuant to...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG)

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) I beg to move: THAT, Standing Order 42 (B) be amended— Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG)

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) The reason this was important is we are saying that Questions are going to be answered within 14 days. Questions are asked in advance. The only question that can be asked on the spur of the moment are follow up questions. You cannot ask a...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Next Order! QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I hope those who have their Questions listed on the Order Paper are in the House. The first chance goes to Hon. Umul Kheir Kassim from Mandera County. Give the microphone to the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you very much, Hon. Gathoni Wamuchomba. I really share your sentiments. Hon. Members, I order that the Question on this Motion be put during the next Sitting for the reason indicated under Standing Order 53 (3) . 1st March 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much. There is a committee called the Committee on Implementation. (Hon. Naomi Waqo interjected) Hon. Waqo, what is out of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Gitonga, wind up your contribution and be relevant.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Gitonga, you are advised to wind up your contribution.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) It is okay.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Masara, what is out of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) A very good contribution, but it has been messed up by your own drama. I now order that the offensive words that were uttered by Hon. Atandi be expunged from the Hansard. This chance goes to the Member for Manyatta.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Give him half a minute.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You do not have to give conditions.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You will not continue in that manner. You have to withdraw and apologise. (Loud consultations)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) What you said is that this regime has murdered a number of people. You do not have the list of those who have been murdered. The order is that you substantiate or withdraw your statement.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order! Order, Hon. Atandi! We insist that you withdraw your statement and then proceed with your contribution.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Atandi, it is therefore clear that the regime has not killed or murdered anybody. Would you just withdraw those statements and proceed with your contribution?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order, Member for Alego Usonga! You shall substantiate how many people this regime has killed or murdered, or apologise and withdraw.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Atandi, I insist. I was seated on the Chair and I heard you say that this regime has murdered a number of people. Give us a list or withdraw and apologise.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Atandi, I insist you substantiate the statement you made by telling us how many have been murdered by this particular situation.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Atandi, the Motion is safe. I suggest you withdraw the remarks about the Government murdering its own people and then proceed with your contribution.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Muhia, what is out of Order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Atandi, I also heard the words you used that the system is interested in killing its own people.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Atandi, proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) What is your point of Order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you, Hon. Umul Kheir. The Question that you have just asked shall be replied to before the Departmental Committee on Regional Development. I hope the Chairman is in the House. 1st March 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 2 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)As...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) This Question shall be replied to before the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Affairs. Is the Chairperson or the Vice Chairperson in the House? Hon. Peter Lochakapong, are you aware that the Question that was asked earlier is directed to your Committee? I...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) This Question shall be replied to before the Departmental Committee on Education. I hope Hon. Millie will be informed that this is urgent and important as the Member has indicated. Next Order! DEVELOPMENT OF POLICY ON STANDARDIZATION AND PRODUCTION OF SCHOOL UNIFORMS The Temporary...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order, Hon. Nyikal. You are now a ranking Member. You cannot anticipate debate. We are debating Order No.8. 1st March 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 5

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you very much, Hon. Nyikal. If there were no deficiencies in all those areas, there would be no need for Parliament in the first place. There will always be deficiency in one place or the other. Hon. Members, the time allocated for this...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Mukunji.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Wamuchomba.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Very well. Hon. Wamuchomba, next time, mention all the Members you want to donate your time to at once so that you do not need to keep coming back to mention other Members. Proceed, Hon. Harun.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng) Order! The Hon. Member who has just come in; just go back to the Bar and bow. Go back to the Bar. When you get in here, you cannot crisscross the Floor the way you have done. Just go back to the Bar, bow...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Parashina.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much, Hon. Parashina. Hon. Members, I recognise the presence, in the Public Gallery, of students from Kanyakine High School in South Imenti in Meru County and students from Muslim Academy Primary School, Starehe, Nairobi County. As usual, we welcome them to...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You know when I am presiding, there are no two rules about this. If you are next in line, you contribute. Hon. Kirwa, this is your chance to contribute on the Motion.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Edith Nyenze.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Pukose.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Atandi, why are you raising your hand up? I can see your name here. You will have your chance when the time comes.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Wamuchomba.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Wamuchomba, are you debating your Bill?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I request that you stick to the Motion on the Floor.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) This chance goes to the Member for Kipkelion West.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I suppose that is the Vice-Chair of the Social Protection Committee and that is why he is passionate about this matter so much. Hon. Nyamai Rachel, proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Masinga. In his absence, Member for Alego Usonga, proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well, this chance now goes to the Member for Kisii County. She will be followed by the Member for Seme.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Next Order! QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I hope those who have their Questions listed on the Order Paper are in the House. The first chance goes to Hon. Umul Kheir Kassim from Mandera County. Give the microphone to the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)