ICHUNG’WAH ANTONY KIMANI

Thank you Hon. Speaker. I thought Hon. Otiende Amollo was going to say that Hon. Sabina Chege is holding brief for Hon. Junet, who I am aware is out of the country but will be back tonight. Hon. Otiende Amollo, you can relax as from Tuesday. Hon. Speaker, I beg...

I think the Member for Bomet East… (Laughter) Was he holding you captive? No. He tried to trip me as I came down, but inadvertently. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to give the following Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee...

On a point of order, Hon. Speaker. The Ayes have it. The Mover is called upon to reply. Order, Hon. Alice Ng’ang’a! Yes, Leader of the Majority Party. Thank you Hon. Speaker, I am sorry to interrupt the Mover before she replies. Today, I was listening to the men’s conference...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I also rise to support this Report by the Committee on National Administration and Internal Security on the approval of Mr. Edwin Kiprono Cheluget. As Members will see from the Report, Mr. Edwin Kiprono is a gentleman who, from his qualifications and what transpired in...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker for protecting me from Hon. T.J. He is very unsettled. I do not why he gets very unsettled when we discuss this matter. Proceed. I said that I was perturbed. I am certain that very many other Kenyans who honour and respect our police officers...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving that guidance. It is true. That is why I was wondering why my brother was getting very jittery. Those are things that are in the public domain. It is true. I saw the former President act in a manner I have never seen...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I will not say that you have come of age but you have always been of age. Thank you for protecting me from Hon. T.J. Kajwang’. I must appreciate the incessant interjections by Hon. Kajwang’ were to derail us from pointing out to the people...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I was on a phone call in the room behind you. I would like to thank the Majority Whip because I saw him on television stepping in on my behalf. I just want to take this opportunity to alert all Chairpersons of our Departmental Committees...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for your indulgence. I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table of the House: The National Tax Policy from the National Treasury and Economic Planning. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I also take this opportunity to welcome Hon. Millie to the House at...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. From what I have heard from the Prime Cabinet Secretary, there are a number of measures that the Government has already taken. I appreciate what he has said that we have had the lowest maize production levels in the last 10 years. He has stipulated various...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. As the Prime Cabinet Secretary said, we experienced the worst drought in almost 40 years and the lowest harvest of maize in the last 10 years. As much as we appreciate what he has said that non- traditional ASAL counties like Kiambu County have benefitted from...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I rise to support this Report on the appointment of the auditor of the Auditor-General. Indeed, the question has been raised as to who audits the Auditor-General. In parliamentary democracies like ours, it is this House of Parliament that should audit the Auditor-General. Therefore, Hon....

It is like there is a point of order from Hon. John Mbadi.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. The former Leader of the Minority Party was wondering why I was welcoming his point of order, but I am a man who adheres to rules and procedures. As the Speaker has severally advised us, I know that when a Member rises on a point...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, let me again graciously welcome the sentiments by the Leader of the Minority Party. He is the immediate former Chairman of PAC. The current Chairman of PAC is the immediate former Leader of the Minority Party. Therefore, it is about swapped roles, and they have a lot...

On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Yes, what is your point of order? Proceed, if Hon. John Mbadi has finished. Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

You know, I have been very kind to Hon. John Mbadi when he stood on a point of order. Protect me from the shouting by the Member for Budalang’i. I know it is raining but he must know since the regime of Mwai Kibaki, the people of Budalang’i were sorted...

On a point of order. Hon. Leader of the Majority Party, what is your point of order? Hon. Deputy Speaker, I raised a substantive point of order on imputing improper motive on a matter I had raised. When I listened, Hon. John Mbadi neither withdrew nor clarified what he said....

Hon. Deputy Speaker, if you listen carefully he said it and I would beg that you order the HANSARD to be printed and tabled before this House tomorrow. If he never said it, then it will rest there. Otherwise, if he said it and from my clear listening to his...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support this Adjournment Motion by Hon. Owen Baya, who hails from Kilifi County. I implore other Members that just like Hon. Ken Chonga has said, this is not the opportunity to point fingers at each other. It is unfortunate that the area...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to give a statement on behalf of 20th April 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 6 the House Business Committee (HBC), which met on Tuesday, 18th April 2023 to prioritise business for consideration during...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Allow me to thank the Justice and Legal Affairs Committee (JLAC) under the chairmanship of Hon. 20th April 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 10 Murugara George alias Sir. George for being very committed to the vetting process of Bishop Oginde. Also, allow me to support this...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I did not want to interrupt Hon. Millie, especially when she mentioned me and photographs. She knows that we do not take photos. Hon. Millie knows. We have no time for photographs. Hon. Millie Odhiambo and I have been around for some time and she...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for that Communication. As you have indicated, as leaders, we have a duty to resolve all issues that are of concern to the people that we represent. As you have said, it is indeed true that His Excellency the President and the former Prime Minister on...

He still has time. Hon Speaker, Hon. Robert Mbui is a seasoned parliamentarian and a very good one, and I sympathise with him because he is likely to be the next victim. And being a seasoned parliamentarian, he knows that he cannot impute improper motive on a Member without bringing...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Let me also have my say on this matter as much as it relates to the other Coalition. You are aware that we are one House irrespective of what coalition we support. I draw your attention to some of the issues raised. The letter that the...

Even as you claim the intellectual property rights to the “noisy and messy” phrase, I invite you to not allow this process to be noisy and messy. I invite you to protect the individual rights of Hon. Sabina Chege as a Member of this House. I invite you to protect...

Hon. Sabina Chege comes from a county that neighbours my county.

Hon. Speaker, I prefer to ignore Hon. Wanjala as usual. Women’s rights must be protected. In conclusion, I must make full disclosure. I will disclose the sacrifices that Hon. Sabina Chege made during the campaigns for the Azimio la Umoja-One Kenya Alliance. I had occasion to sit with Hon. Sabina...

On a point of order, Hon. Speaker. (Hon. Zamzam Mohammed spoke off-record) Order, Mama Zamzam. What is your point of order? Tulia kidogo Mama Zamzam. Mhe. Spika, nitajitahidi kuzungumza kwa lugha ya Kiswahili hata kama sio sanifu kama ya Mama Mhe. Zamzam. Mhe. Zamzam amenukuu... (Kicheko) Amenitaja kama Kiongozi wa...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: 13th April 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 21 STATEMENTS BUSINESS FOR THE WEEK 17TH TO 21ST APRIL 2023 Leader of the Majority Party, the usual Thursday Statement. Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I commend the Cabinet Secretary for being the first Cabinet Secretary to appear in this Session. The House will appreciate that part of the reason we wanted cabinet secretaries to appear before the House 12th April 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 16 is for them to answer...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Allow me, on behalf of the people of Kikuyu and all of us to convey our heartfelt condolences to the family of the late Kulow. I take this opportunity to thank all the Members who had the opportunity to attend the service in South C and...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. My apologies. I was walking to consult with Hon. Atandi, who was protesting your assertion that I am available to second the Motion by the Leader of the Minority Party. I want to confirm that, indeed, I am ready to second the Motion. If he was...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I will be very brief. I rise to support this Report. We have had this Report in this House from the 12th Parliament. As the Chairman indicated, the previous Committee in the 12th Parliament had done most of the work. You were a Member of...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Order, Hon. Mbui! The Leader of the Majority Party, what is your point of order? Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Robert had done very well until he started misrepresenting facts and statements by people who are not in this House, like...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, the entire country is watching us. The Motion that has been brought by the Leader of the Minority Party is very important. The issues that we are deliberating on are those that Kenyans elected us to come and transact. They are of concern to the people. Articles...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, Standing Order 91 on statements of fact, Hon. John Mbadi has just asserted that the CASs positions are unconstitutional. I do not know if he could be alluding to the case that was in court. He knows the judgement to that particular case. The issues that were...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Allow me to also congratulate the Leader of the Minority Party for bringing this Motion. I, indeed, encourage him and his colleagues on the Minority side that this is the way to do it. When you have matters that are of concern to the people...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I want to tell my brother I am not demonising street action. I am demonising violence, anarchy, and looting of supermarkets by mobs. I want to encourage that as much as we are saying that we are in a problem, we shall not fix it...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, we are a House of rules. Hon. Pukose rose on Standing Order 91 and asked the Member to substantiate, but she has not substantiated. I am not raising this just because of Hon. Zamzam; it has become a habit that Members say things careless and they do...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. On my behalf and the people of Kikuyu Constituency, allow me to welcome members of the East Africa Women’s League to the National Assembly and laud them for the great work they have done to fight for women’s voting rights in this country, more so those...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the House:

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise under Standing Order 44 (2) (a) to make a Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee which met on Tuesday, 21st March 2023 to prioritise the business for consideration during the week. Allow me to commend the leadership of both sides of the...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise under Standing Order 85 on anticipation of debates. We are a House of procedure and rules. There are two minor issues that I have noted that are good to apprise Members on for the good of housekeeping. One is on anticipation of debate. I...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Leader of the Majority Party, what is out of order? Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am sorry to interrupt the Chair of the NG-CDF Committee, who was doing a very good job. However, when I look around the House, I do not see...

You know Hon. Temporary Speaker, Hon. Nyikal knows because he has been in the Government that Standing Order No. 87 (3) , says: “It shall be out of order to use offensive or insulting language, whether in respect of Members of the House or other persons”. It does not even...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, on a point of order. What is your point of order, Hon. Ichung’wah? Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for your guidance. What you have said is true. Standing Order 33 (4) says, “No Member speaking on a matter under this Standing Order shall speak for more than...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I do not want to spend a lot of time. I will try to work within the five minutes. It is indeed true that this country is suffering because of these demonstrations. It is also true that the Constitution allows everybody to picket and express...

I am within the five minutes, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I hope you replenish the one minute wasted on the unnecessary things. The Member for Nyando sat in this House in the 12th Parliament when the Act to establish IEBC Panel was passed. It is true it was authored under the Handshake Regime by Uhuru Kenyatta, the...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, you know I would not rise on a frivolous point. I rise on Standing Order No. 87. Protect me from Hon. Rozaah Buyu. I think she has listened to what Hon. Nyikal has said. Standing Order No. 87 (2) says that it shall be out of order...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. What is your point of order, Hon Ichung’wah Kimani? Hon. Speaker, I have listened keenly to the Member for Laikipia North. She purports that President Uhuru Kenyatta has been accused 22nd March 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 36 of being the sponsor of...

He is not sure whether he is a man or woman. (Laughter)

On a point of order. What is your point of order, Hon. Ichungw’ah? Hon. Temporary Speaker, I empathise with Hon. Rozaah Buyu. We cannot use the Floor of this House to whip up emotions. It is a fact that a student of Maseno University was shot dead. It is also...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Is it absolutely necessary? Proceed. Hon. Temporary Speaker, first of all, let me thank you for protecting me because Hon. Millie was on the verge of discussing me without a substantive Motion. However, more importantly, maybe, she was not listening to what...