Anthony Kimani Ichung'wah

On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg your indulgence before we go to the next business. I know these statements are usually very many, and you allow Members to speak. However, my attention was caught by the Statement by the Member for Machakos County,...

They should have guided the Member for Machakos.

Hon. Deputy Speaker, you got it right. I suggest you direct the Directorate of Legislative and Procedural Services to scrutinise some of these statements. A matter that is in court cannot be discussed. I heard my Deputy say he will relay the matter to the Departmental Committee on Labour yet...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, Hon. Majimbo Kalasinga, the Member for Kabuchai, who is now famous for Clause 169 of a Finance Bill that never existed, has a problem with listening. (Laughter)

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I am on a point of order, so he should be guided that when I am on a point of order, they take their seat and relax. He cannot be on a point of order when I am on one. I have to finish with my point...

On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Deputy Speaker, I rise on Standing Order 87 on contents of speech. Since we are elected, we have a duty and responsibility to the people of Kenya to inform them. For instance, the Member for Kabuchai is elected from among the...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg your indulgence. Since the Chairperson of the Committee is away on official business, I request that we defer consideration of this Bill to another appointed time to enable him to move the Second Reading.

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg your indulgence again, Hon. Temporary Speaker, on Order No. 18 on the Sovereign Wealth Fund Bill. As directed by Hon. Speaker and as we requested yesterday, the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning is currently meeting in Committee Room...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, and my apologies. I did not know you had that Communication, but it serves the purpose of item 1 under Order No. 18. I also seek your indulgence regarding item (ii) under Order No. 18, the Kenya Revenue Authority (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No....

Hon. Speaker, I can see Hon. Oundo, who had proposed several amendments to the Sovereign Wealth Fund Bill (National Assembly Bill No.7 of 2026) , gesturing at me. I want to inform the House that some of the amendments to that Bill have huge implications. That is why we thought...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Business Laws (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bill No.51 of 2024) be now read a Second Time. This is an old Bill which was among the four that emanated from the Finance Bill, 2024. You may remember that the Finance Bill, 2024 was quite...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I just want to inform Hon. Oundo. As I said when I was moving, this Bill was subjected to public participation as part of the Finance Bill, 2024 by the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning of the National Assembly. You remember that we split it...

I rise on Standing Order 96 to seek adjournment of this debate because of some issues that we had spoken to and Hon. Oundo also alluded to. The Committee is still considering parts of this Bill. Therefore, I seek the indulgence of the House that we adjourn this debate to...

On a point of order, Hon. Speaker. Hon. Speaker, I rise on a point of order on anticipation of debate. Hon. Ngogoyo is in his rightful place to debate. However, what he is saying amounts to anticipating a decision of the House, after a Motion is seconded, you should debate,...

Hon. Speaker, I also rise to reject this list of the members of the NG-CDF Board. I associate myself with the sentiments of my colleague and Leader of the Minority Party, Hon. Junet. This House has a constitutional mandate to oversee the work of the Executive and everybody in the...

We must be certain that the people we approve in this Board are beyond reproach. I know some of us have attempted many times to speak to the gallery, which is why you see the anger Hon. Ngogoyo is exhibiting today. It is probably because the people he follows, the...

Hon. Speaker, you know what I said yesterday when the Member for Manyatta rose on Standing Order 105. I see that at least the Member for Kajiado North has read one Standing Order. I am obligated, as his leader, to continue educating him, including on issues of relevance. This is...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. In conclusion, I have heard some people claiming that today is a public holiday. I just came from the Bomas of Kenya, where the President was inspecting the work being done. People were working in the Bomas of Kenya. We are here because we are working...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Legal Notice No. 99 of 2026 relating to the Public Finance Management (Public Officers Medical Fund) (Amendment) Regulations, 2026. Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for your indulgence as the Paper came slightly late. That is why we have laid...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to second. As I said yesterday during the Second Reading debate of this Bill, which we are about to approve in Third Reading, it will become the County Allocation of Revenue Act. Effectively, from 1st July 2026, the governors will have money in...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I am trying to guide my brother Hon. Mwenje. I know it hurts because the truth always hurts. For those who had not read the Finance Bill, it is still hurting. If he had the patience to wait, I was talking about the irrelevancy and...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise to support this Motion. I thank the Chairperson and the Budget and Appropriations Committee for considering this Bill from the Senate. This Bill distributes the revenue that was shared between the two levels of government under the Division of Revenue Bill among the 47 counties....

Whether you are a Senator for Nairobi, Homa Bay, Kiambu, or anywhere else, your work is oversight. Your responsibility is to ensure that money allocated to the Primary Healthcare Fund is being utilised to provide free treatment to people in your county. You must also ensure that the Facilities Improvement...

No. I would not do away with governors. However, I would return the healthcare function to the national Government, at least for Levels 2, 3, and 4 facilities. If only I had my way. (Loud consultations)(Laughter)

Thank you. First, let me thank Hon. (Dr) Amollo for sharing great wisdom on healthcare functions. I referred to Hon. (Dr) Amollo because I knew he was actively involved in drafting the current Constitution. When you hear a senior counsel informing us that the drafters of the Constitution never intended...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I was keenly listening to the Member for Suba South to hear what is unconstitutional. There is nothing I heard him say that is unconstitutional. The Petition is properly before the House. (Hon. Caroli Omondi spoke off the record)

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I do not know who told the Member for Suba South that he has a monopoly on knowledge and that when he speaks, we should all align and say, “Yes, Sir.” That can only happen in your house, not in this House. This House considers...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, you are very right. I was going through the same Act as you were reading it out. The Forest Conservation and Management Act (Cap. 385) , Section 34, is what should guide such a Petition. This Petition came to the House pursuant to the provisions of this...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Sovereign Wealth Fund Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 7 of 2026) be now read a Second Time. Hon. Temporary Speaker, allow me to, first, thank the Chair and the Members of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning for subjecting...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, it is, indeed, unfortunate. As you know, some of those who were pontificating here and shouting the loudest the other week even claimed that they had appeared before the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning and would be proposing amendments during the Committee of the whole...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Forgive the Member for Manyatta. He is serving his first term and has not yet familiarised himself with the Standing Orders. You and other Speakers have directed that when a Member seeks to interject on a point of order, they must know the provisions of...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, let us forgive the Member for Manyata. Standing Order 105 speaks of Members remaining in their places until the Speaker has left the Chamber. (Laughter) reached our country, to ensure we were safe. They went telling people that Ebola was being brought to Laikipia. Shame on you,...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I think it is because Hon. Peter Kaluma's tie, the Member of Homa Bay, matches very well with the beautiful dress of the Member from Kisumu, Hon. Rozaah Akinyi Buyu. They are both very smart. We have noticed them. I was saying that the Bill contains very...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, earlier I had cautioned Hon. Caroli Omondi on his recent behaviour in the House. I do not know what is informing this anger in him. It is very dangerous to be consumed by anger when you are growing old. I can confirm, and I would want us...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I do not want to interrupt Hon. Caroli. He has a right to say whatever he wants to. We are degrading the image of this House. Hon. Caroli has stood up in his place to contribute, but the best...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support this Supplementary Budget II for the FY 2025/2026. Let me begin by reiterating what I said when we were considering the Report of the Committee. Ordinarily, a second supplementary budget is intended to realign expenditure from one State Department that may...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I stand guided. As always, I cannot argue with Hon. Temporary Speaker because he is the only person with the power to throw me out of the House. I abide by what you have said because I want us to allow each other to debate....

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Since my time is about to end, I have no business replying to the Member for Starehe. I mentioned Kajiado North because they are my immediate neighbours. I am working very hard for them to get access to roads. The people of Kajiado North deserve...

As I conclude, Hon. Temporary Speaker, I was talking about the Ngong Bypass Road and the Matasia loops. Almost 40 per cent of the people who live in Kajiado North migrated from my village in Gikambura. They call me every day. As a national leader, I have to support them....

Hon. Temporary Speaker, that was an unnecessary interjection that I have no time for. We all know how we make the budget and we live in this country. If you are not a diligent Member of Parliament to follow something up, nothing will land on your table. You must interact...

I will conclude by saying that State House does not only mean the State House in Nairobi. We are all aware we have done a number of state lodges across the country, including in Wajir, Northern Kenya. People who felt excluded from Kenya. Even in Homa Bay there is a...

Hon. Kaluma is very intelligent. He should inform me.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I was concluding. I thank Hon. Kaluma for that information. Unlike some of our former presidents who spent a lot of time in State House, our President is very mobile. In that mobility that makes every Kenyan feel as part and parcel of our country and creates...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I have listened to what Hon. Oundo has said. I do not know if he is a Member of the Public Accounts Committee. But I know that the Senior Counsel was a Member of the Public Accounts Committee, if...

Vice-Chair is actually here.

Hon. Speaker, that resourceful request for a Statement by Hon. Kamuren is good. However, the compensation of banditry victims is a matter that everybody is running away from. You know, victims of banditry are Kenyans whose human rights have been violated. The State has an obligation to protect the life...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Orders 30 (3) (b) (Hours of Meeting) , this House resolves to—

Hon. Speaker, Hon. Kimani Kuria was to second. He has asked me to do so on his behalf. He is held up in a meeting. Hon. Speaker, I rise to second the Kenya Revenue Authority (Amendment) Bill. This is a small Bill with only four clauses. It basically seeks to...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support the Motion for adoption of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on the Supplementary Estimates II of the Financial Year 2025/2026. As the Chair and the Vice-Chair have articulated, this is the very last supplementary budget. It is a very short Bill,...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Temporary Speaker, first let me thank you for guiding the Member for Manyatta, Hon. Mukunji. Now that he mentioned me and the Leader of the Minority Party that if he says something, I must support, or if I say something, he...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise on a point of relevance. I was listening to the Member for Mukurweini, Hon. Kaguchia. I wish to remind him that we are debating Supplementary Estimates II. (Applause) If, indeed, ignorance has no cure, then...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Temporary Speaker, as much as we say ignorance has no cure, Article 223 is part of the Constitution of Kenya. The drafters of the Constitution had reasons to give the Executive those powers to utilise it. If that Article was not...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Plant Protection Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 28 of 2025) be now read a Second Time. First, I want to thank the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock, which considered this Bill and conducted very extensive public participation. This a very...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. It may be difficult for some of us to pronounce names, but that is not an important matter.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, last time, when you mispronounced the same name, he shouted from his place. Names are not important in this case and especially because they are not adding value to our debate. We are debating the rapid transformation in our agricultural sector. A packet of maize flour that...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, that is not a point of order. If I wanted to de-campaign the Member, Hon. Joshua Kimilu knows I could do so and he knows what I could say about him. If he wants me to say it, I can go ahead. (Laughter)(Laughter) It is on matters...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me begin by thanking all the Members who have contributed to this Bill. As I stated earlier, it is an important piece of legislation for a country whose economy is largely agriculture-based. I have listened to the contributions made by Members, as well as...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Allow me to also welcome the delegation to the National Assembly, including George Peter Opondo and the other distinguished guests. They are great Kenyans, and we are pleased to have them with us. I have observed the discipline and studious silence they have maintained while...

Hon. Irene Nyakerario.

Yes, Hon. Speaker.

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I hate to interrupt Hon. Robert. That is why I sought to inform him. Is Hon. Robert in order to use the Floor of this House to misinform the country that there is a tax on mitumba? I have gone through this Bill clause by clause. A...

I again rise on Standing Order 91 on responsibility for statement of facts. Hon. Mbui purports that there is a new tax on rental income. Clearly, Hon. Mbui has not gone through this Bill. Let me help him. It is under Clause 4 of the Bill.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, can I finish making my point? I had not even raised the issue because they interrupted me. Hon. Mbui is actually wasting more time if he does not allow me to just guide the House. The Standing Orders speak on statements of facts. (Loud consultations)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am very clear. I rise under Standing Order 91 on a statement of fact, not to interrupt my brother Hon. Robert Mbui, or even to read for him. Hon. Mbui purported in his statement that the Bill introduces a new tax on rental income. I ask...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support the Bill. I begin by thanking the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, first, for the very extensive public participation they conducted on this Bill. Consequent to that public participation, unlike what many people were made to believe some two...

I can, of course, be informed by the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning.

Thank you, Chair.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I cannot be informed by someone who is not well informed. I can only be informed by the Chair of the Departmental Committee, who is well informed.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, if I may proceed…

You have put it very well, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Could he tell us the Standing Order under which he is raising the point of order?

Hon. Temporary Speaker, that is a point of argument.

Indeed, to make it even clearer, in the tax law, there are only two categories: resident and non-resident. Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Departmental Committee Chair made it clear. You have also clarified that for non-residents, the obligation to pay rental tax was previously on the tenant, who would withhold that...

Let me thank the Committee Chair because he has effectively deconstructed the propaganda, lies and innuendos that were being peddled around the issue of rental income tax. I had submitted on the question of deemed income for people who are not paying dividends. I made it clear, as the Chair...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, you know that Hon. Jack Wamboka is my very good friend. He knows what I may have said was not on record. He is now informing Kenyans about what I might have said off the record. All I said was that Hon. Kalonzo Musyoka had not read...

On a point of information, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I just want to inform Hon. Kaluma, who is a seasoned lawyer and has been working in the corridors of justice for some time now. Taxpayers have been going to court to freeze the process, thus preventing the Kenya Revenue Authority (KRA) from collecting taxes. That was...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Temporary Speaker, our Standing Orders are very clear: We allow two languages in this House—Kiswahili, our national language, and English. It is up to the Member to choose which language to speak. The only thing we are not allowed to do...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am a very disciplined Member. Whenever I want to use my phone, I excuse myself to go to the back.

I am on a point of order. Take your seat. The Member for Kajiado North is fond of mentioning my name in vain, apparently to gain favour from those he thinks he can gain it from. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I want you to direct that I release this phone to...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I have heard a number of things being referred to. At the outset of Hon. Mawathe’s speech, he said that, because you are in the Speaker's seat, he does not want to refer to what you said about passing the Budget and the Finance Bill, even though...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Member cannot be on his feet when I am on a point of order. The Chairperson of the Committee indicated in his report that the Committee proposed to remove lithium batteries, electric buses, and motorcycles from that list because, with the current high fuel prices, we...

Hon. Mawathe imputed improper motives on you, asking you to be fair. (Hon. Onesmus Ngogoyo consulted loudly) Hon. Temporary Speaker, protect me from the Member for Kajiado North, Hon. Ngogoyo. Shouting might be his profession, but as you have said, we cannot debate the Finance Bill by shouting. I did...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

The Member for Kiharu alleges that in 2024, despite the Finance Bill having been rejected while it was passed in this House, leaders in this House went ahead and implemented it. There are about four leaders in this House now: Hon. Mbui, Hon. Mwenje, Hon. Millie, Hon. Naomi Waqo and...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, you know, my brother, Hon. Ndindi Nyoro, says he is under no obligation to be directed. In fact, nobody seeks to direct him. The point of order the Chairman spoke on… (Loud consultations)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I was saying the guidance you sought from Hon. Ndindi Nyoro was on the Clause that is taxing mitumba in the Bill or the proposal in the Report of the Committee that is proposing that. The Hon. Chairman has clarified that. All that Hon. Ndindi Nyoro is...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. This is the usual Thursday Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to present the following Statement. The House Business Committee met on Tuesday, 9th June 2026 to prioritize business for consideration...

Hon. Speaker, as you have directed, I did not have to search for the Cabinet Secretary. He was well within the precincts of Parliament, and on time. It is now my pleasure and honour to present to the House, to the country and to you, Hon. Speaker, the Cabinet Secretary...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support this mediated version of the Division of Revenue Bill. Allow me to begin by thanking the Members of the Mediation Committee, led by the two co-chairpersons, Chairperson Hon. Samuel Atandi and Senator Roba, the Senator for Mandera County. I thank them...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. That was more or less a commercial break. Let me begin by thanking all Members, especially Members of the Justice and Legal Affairs Committee (JLAC) who considered this Bill in their Committee meetings. They conducted extensive public participation and engaged many stakeholders, including members of...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Temporary Speaker, you are on point. As my brother was contributing, I was listening. He used unparliamentary language that is demeaning. He used sentences like all of a sudden, the Government has become very intelligent or people in Government purport to...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Temporary Speaker, as I said, my brother pretends to play around with words to look intelligent, but I do not want to say he is not. You have just guided him. Whether he was the former Chair of the Budget and...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, as I said, my brother from Kiharu thinks… You know, you can fool some people sometimes, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. I had to come back from my office because I listened to a lot of untruths. You are asking a specific...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support this Motion on considering the expenditures of the Consolidated Fund Services under the Budget Estimates for the Financial Year 2026/2027. I begin by thanking Members of the Public Debt and Privatisation Committee. As you have said, they consider the expenditure of...

Oh, you made it? I thought, because I had seen you two or three weeks ago before the recess, you did not make it for Hajj. At least you have been to Saudi Arabia. Some of us have never. Even those who purport to know the region do not know...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I don't know what is itching my brother because I have not even finished my contribution and I was headed there. I was saying, rather than lecture the country to want to seem to look intelligent, what we should be offering are solutions. We should be telling...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, my brother, Hon. Oundo, was touched when I mentioned Uhuru Kenyatta’s name. He even referred to it as the 8-4-4 system of ‘government’. It is the 8-4-4 system of education. That is a fact. When the former Cabinet Secretary for Education, Amina Mohammed, slowed down on the...