ICHUNG’WAH ANTONY KIMANI

Thank you Hon. Deputy Speaker. I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Legal Notice No. 2 of 2023 relating to Energy (Revocation) Regulations 2023, from the Ministry of Energy and Petroleum; Legal Notice No. 3 of 2023 relating to the Petroleum (Importation) Regulations 2023, from the Ministry...

Mtaona tu. Ulizeni Mhe. Babu kwa sababu anawajua! (Laughter)

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I rise under Standing Order 44 (2) (a) to make a Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee which met on Tuesday, 21st February 2023, to prioritise the business for consideration during the week. As Members are aware, yesterday Wednesday, 22nd February 2023, the House commenced...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of the Standing Orders 175 (3) and 212B Committee on Members’ Services and Facilities: Committee on Powers and Privileges that is on Order No.11. The term of these two sessional 23rd February 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, besides being irrelevant, Hon. Junet Mohamed is grossly misleading the country. He knows he is on live national television. He is talking about the Leader of the Majority Party sitting in meetings. He knows that the only meetings I sit in are the House Business Committee on...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Section 15 (1) (a) (ii) of the Parliamentary Powers and Privileges Act, 2017 and Standing Order 175 (3) , this House approves the appointment of the following Members to the Powers and Privileges Committee,...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, further to the resolutions of the House of Thursday, 27th October 2022 and Wednesday, 9th November 2022 appointing Members to various Committees; and pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 173, this House further approves the appointment of the...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. It is good that the Minority Whip has raised that very pertinent issue regarding the Committees of this House, including the Committee on Selection that I Chair. This is the only Committee that I Chair and sit in other than the House Business Committee (HBC)...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to lay the following papers on the Table: NOTICE OF MOTION DEVELOPMENT OF COMPREHENSIVE JUNIOR SECONDARY SCHOOL POLICY

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I was just restraining myself from speaking about schools, but let me also take this opportunity to welcome the indomitable Kabare Girls High School and also the boys’ school. There has been a lot of accolades to the girls from Kabare Girls High School, but...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I also rise to support this Petition by Ms. Cherono. The scheme, as envisaged, was to benefit our students. Some of them are seated in the Speaker’s Gallery and Public Gallery. If this system is unable to identify students when they visit public hospitals, it is...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Information on Programmes Outputs, Performance Indicators and Targets for the FY 2023/2024 and the Medium-Term Strategy from the National Treasury and Economic Planning. Reports of the Auditor-General and Financial Statements in respect of the following institutions for the...

Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to give a Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee which met on Tuesday, 14th February 2023 to prioritise business for consideration during the week. Hon. Speaker, allow me to once again welcome Members...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, noting the contents of the memorandum submitted to Parliament by His Excellency the President asking Parliament to consider initiating amendments to the Constitution; acknowledging that actualisation of the proposals which relate to, inter alia, the composition of...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I take this opportunity to thank Hon. Nyikal. We are a House of procedures and precedence. It is, indeed, true that with respect to any Motion other than those sponsored by individual Members, we ought to seek leave of the House. My apologies for that...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, you know I have a lot of respect for Dr. Nyikal. He knows his famous definition of the word “Government”. Therefore, I do not like to rattle the “Government” and Hon. Nyikal knows what I mean. However, Hon. Nyikal is completely out of order because he does...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I hope that our good friends, the new Members of Parliament, are learning from experienced legislators like Dr. Nyikal because there are many ways of skinning a cat. You could see that his sole intention was not to have this continue. It is only fair that we...

I was saying that this proposal will enrich and deepen our democracy, and make the structures of the governance of our country only stronger. I know there are those who would want us to imagine that we need to go into a referendum and therefore the push to go back...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: A Notification of Presidential Action on the Recognition of the Pemba Community as an Ethnic Community of Kenya. Reports of the Auditor-General and Financial Statements in respect of the following institutions for the year ended 30th June 2021...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 97 (1) , this House orders that each speech in a debate on any Sessional Paper shall be limited as follows:- A maximum of two-and-a-half hours, with not more than twenty (20)...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 97 (1) , this House orders that each speech in debate on Reports of Constitutional Commissions and Independent Offices be limited as follows: – A maximum of four hours with not more...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 97 (1) , this House orders that each speech in a debate on the Report of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on Budget Estimates contemplated under Standing Orders 239 and

Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for your indulgence. I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 97 (1) and notwithstanding the resolution of the House made on Wednesday, 15th February 2023 during the morning sitting relating to limitation of debate on Motions, this...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 28, this House approves the Calendar of the National Assembly (Regular Sessions) for the Second Session (2023) as contained in the Schedule to the Order Paper. I am doing this on...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, taking into consideration the recommendations of the Parliamentary Service Commission in its Report on Recruitment of the Parliamentary Service Commissioner who is not a Member of Parliament, laid on the Table of the House on Tuesday, 14th February 2023, and...

On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker. What is your point of order, Leader of the Majority Party? Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I have tremendous respect for the Leader of the Minority Party. I rise under Standing Order 87 (4) , which states that no Member shall impute...

Even without naming them, the Hon. Members are already naming them. I want to dissuade Hon. Members from discussing our officers on the basis of their ethnicity. Hon. Deputy Speaker, it is only fair that Hon. Opiyo Wandayi sticks to the facts. I do not want him to name officers,...

Hon. Speaker, as you alluded to earlier, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Report of the Parliamentary Service Commission on Recruitment of a Male Report of the Auditor-General and financial Statements for the National

Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion, on behalf of the Parliamentary Service Commission. THAT, taking onto consideration the recommendation of the Parliamentary Service Commission in its Report on the recruitment of the Parliamentary Service Commissioner who is not a Member of Parliament, laid on 14th...

THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 171 (1) (f) , this House approves the appointment of the following Members to the House Business Committee, in addition to those specified under paragraphs (a) , (b) , (c) , (d) and 14th February 2023 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 9 accommodate these...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker, for your indulgence. Let me join the great people of Kiambaa Constituency in Kiambu County and our nation at large in condoling with the family of the late Hon. Stanley Munga Githunguri. It is indeed true that the late Hon. Stanley Munga Githunguri was a...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I rise to support the passage of these Regulations and thank the Select Committee on Delegated Legislation for the work they put in within a very short time to ensure that these Regulations are considered by the House. 8th December 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 9...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to second. The County Governments Additional Allocations (No. 2) Bill (Senate Bill No.4 of

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. The business listed as Order No.13 on the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.42 of 2022) is listed for second hearing today. Sorry, Second Reading. I am surrounded by too many lawyers that I am getting accustomed to hearings instead...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I am sorry the Leader of the Minority Party thought I wanted to interrupt him. I wanted to inform him. The Leader of the Minority Party is a ranking Member of the House Business Committee, which sits every Tuesday. We, indeed, had a meeting this...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Pursuant to provisions of Standing order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to issue a Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee, which met on Tuesday, 29th November 2022 to prioritise business. As Members are aware, the House is scheduled to proceed for a long...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I think the Leader of Minority is within his rights to make such a request, but I want to, vehemently, oppose it. Hon. Speaker, as I indicated in my Statement, all Members put a lot of time in their respective committees vetting the Principal Secretary nominees....

Hon. Speaker, before we move to the next Order, we are well guided by your directive on the point of order raised by Hon. Junet. I am told that those in the legal profession say that if you seek equity, you must do so with clean hands. This being a...

Hon. Speaker, as I move this Procedural Motion, allow me to also join you in commending the team of Senior Counsels and our very good lawyers who have represented us. For the record, it is important to mention that Senior Counsel, Hon. Otiende Amollo, and other lawyers are not representing...

Hon. Speaker, I beg your indulgence because this is the last Motion in the approval process for Principal Secretaries. Members are aware this process has been very rigorous for many people who had spent a lot of time in committees. I can hear Hon. Pukose from behind me say many...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg Members’ indulgence on this matter because this follows a petition by members of the public. Even as I rise to support, in a very special manner, allow me to thank the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs for the good work that they...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 42 of 2022) be now read a Second Time. Hon. Speaker, the principal object of this very short two-clause Bill is to amend the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) Act...

Thank you Hon. Speaker. I beg to reply. I want to thank the many Members that have contributed for appreciating the need to have a panel that is balanced, that represents all shades of opinion, those who have been nominated by the Parliamentary Service Commission, Public Service Commission, those that...

Hon. Chairperson, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.49 of 2022) and its approval thereof without amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (The House resumed) [The Speaker (Hon....

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said Report. I also request Hon. Njeri to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 42 of 2022) be now read a Third Time. I also request Hon. Makilap to second.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker for your indulgence. I want to take this opportunity to profoundly thank all these Members who sat from (Applause) 1st December 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 60 Thank you very much, Members, for your sacrifice and time.(Applause)

Thank you Hon. Deputy Speaker. 30th November 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 2 I just protected you from the Hon. Member for Emgwen, Josses Lelmengit. Hon. Josses is my very good student. He usually seeks to understand what is the next business and why you had to rearrange business. I was...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Since I did not get a chance to contribute on the other one, let me also take this opportunity to appreciate the delegation from Baringo County Assembly led by their Leader of the Majority Party, Hon. Tallam, and their Whip, Hon. Kibet, whom I worked with...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for your indulgence. The Deputy Whip of the Majority Party was well-briefed and was ready to move the Sessional Paper.

Yes, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I was following up on some papers that we were waiting for. With your indulgence, I beg to lay the following papers on the Table:

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to second this Sessional Paper No. 2 of 2021 on the National Agricultural Policy. As has been clearly articulated by the Deputy Whip of the Majority Party, Hon. Naomi Waqo, this policy speaks to one of the key areas of our economy -...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Special Audit Report of the Auditor-General on the Contracting Process for Transportation of Cargo via Standard Gauge Railway by Kenya Railways Corporation. If you allow me, there is a question that was asked by Hon. Gichimu to the...

Hon. Speaker, if you can indulge the Chairperson, Budget and Appropriations Committee, to do this in the course of the Sitting because they are still sitting in the Committee...

Hon. Speaker, I have two Statements: one on National Government Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF) and a response. Let me start with NG-CDF Statement. Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (b) , I rise to issue a Statement on the progress regarding the submission of nominees...

Hon. Speaker, you know Hon. Mulyungi knows I am good in my language. Therefore, I do not need to insinuate anything. I made a Statement detailing how many constituencies had their lists approved, which is 283. Seven are yet to submit their lists, with the exception of Kandara and Garissa...

Hon. Speaker, this is a ministerial response from Hon. Franklin Mithika Linturi, the Cabinet Secretary for Agriculture and Livestock Development regarding the planned importation of 900,000 metric tonnes. I will read it as it is. It was addressed to the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock. I...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I have noted all the comments. As leaders, we must also bear the responsibility of socialising farmers to the realities of today’s world. It may not always be feasible for farmers to produce with the expectation of selling their produce to the Government. We must produce...

Hon. Speaker, on the question of any pending audit reports, we table them as they come. If the Chair is privy to some information, he can bring it to my attention. Is there any pile in your office? I do not have reports in my office which have not been...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Procedural Motion on behalf of the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs, who is in the committee’s sitting: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 256A (1) (Extension of period prescribed) , this House resolves to extend...

On a point of order, Hon. Speaker. 29th November 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 45

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I do not intend to mean that Hon. Opiyo Wandayi is not in order to be making his point, but he is treading on very dangerous grounds, in my view. He has gone to the extent of debating not the Procedural Motion before us, but matters...

Hon. Speaker, you are well informed to guide Hon. Opiyo Wandayi. He has gone to the extent of disparaging the proceedings before the Committee in the pretext that he is laying grounds on the question of the time sought. I have already ruled him out of order on that. Hon....

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 30 (3) (b) , this House resolves to hold a morning sitting on Thursday, 1st December 2022 commencing at

On a point of order, Hon. Speaker. What is out order, Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah? Hon. Speaker, we must be careful with the words we use. Hon. Mbadi has thrice used the term “ungodly days.” I do not know what those ungodly days are, but I would just like to mention...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to second the Motion on Consideration of the Public Finance Management (Financial Inclusion Fund) Regulations, 2022. I take this opportunity to thank the Committee under the able leadership of Hon. Chepkonga for consideration of these regulations. We are seeking their approval to address...

Some of them are in this House. Order, Hon. Millie. Let the Leader of the Majority Party be heard in silence. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker for protecting me from Hon. Millie. I know she may not have read the Kenya Kwanza Coalition Manifesto. When I said that some of...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Junet, I will disturb you again because I have a point of order from the Leader of the Majority. What is out of order? Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I also rise under Standing Order 81. Hon. Junet seems irritated on...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. He only has half a minute left, but there is a point of order from the Leader of the Majority Party. What is out of order, Hon. Ichung’wah? Hon. Temporary Speaker, Hon. John Mbadi has mentioned me and the people of Kikuyu...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support this particular Bill. Members will appreciate that these additional funds are going to the counties. We all have concerns as to how and where these monies will be applied. Two, out of this money, the conditional grants coming from the Government...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I have Papers to lay on the Table of the House. However, the Leader of the Minority Party was engaging me 24th November 2022 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 2 on other Papers that are yet to be laid. So, I was just informing him that those will come...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I just want, by way of comment, to thank the Member for Kamukunji for seeking this Statement. It is true that many of our telecommunication and internet service providers are literally stealing from our people. The moment you buy bundles, for example a one-week package,...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I was just concerned because the Member said his constituents call him on WhatsApp. I was wondering because since freedom came, we no longer use WhatsApp to call. Unless there is a section of this country that the public feels there is no freedom and still have...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I just wanted to guide the Chairperson. Since this statement is going to his Committee, he should not be doing what he is doing now. He should just tell the House when he will deal with the matter because he is now preempting what the Committee will...

No, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I was going back to Statements.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, the House Procedures Committee is seized of the matter of reviewing our Standing Orders to ensure that Cabinet Secretaries come to this House to answer Questions on matters affecting the people of Kenya, who are represented by these hon. Members. Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to Standing Orders...