Johnson Arthur Sakaja

Sen. Sakaja Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would just like to inform the good Chairperson of the Committee on Finance and Budget. He has mentioned the Prompt Payment Bill twice as a Bill being pushed by the BBI. I hope he is informed that he himself has voted on that Bill...

Sen. Sakaja Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I acknowledge the work that has been done by the Committee in trying to hurriedly, given the timelines, consolidate a report from all the committees that have had to submit their views on the BPS in less than two days. This is something...

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Sen. Sakaja Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I want to inform Sen. Sakaja and the rest of the House that the borrowing that we are condemning happened before some of our Members like the Wiper Democratic Movement Party entered into a cooperation agreement. That was the Eurobond and some external debt...

Sen. Sakaja Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. First, I want to congratulate Sen. (Dr.) Mbito for bringing this Statement, and I urge that you would direct it to him as the Chairperson of the Committee on Health. The issues that he is talking about are very important. Mental health has...

Sen. Sakaja Mr. Speaker, Sir, very briefly. Thank you, Sen. (Dr.) Khaniri; sorry, Sen. Khaniri. You can also be Dr. Khaniri. Soon, you will be getting your Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) . Thank you, for bringing that Statement. Our heritage is not just what we have inherited from those before...

Sen. Sakaja Mr. Speaker, Sir, there are witnesses. Some of these witnesses are children of Sunday school teachers. If they are to say the truth, such a statement came from around there; that there are no giraffes in Vihiga. Mr. Speaker, Sir, importantly, 38 per cent of these giraffes are...

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Sen. Sakaja Madam Temporary Speaker, I apologise to the very eminent Senator for Nairobi City for interrupting him. However, I am just interested in ensuring that the rulings are equal. I rose and spoke about BBI, but the Chair reprimanded me. My colleague has mentioned BBI, but he did not...

Sen. Sakajaor two hours on labour issues. However, we want to look at that because unless you have the right human resource in a county, you cannot expect to have a good product at the tail end of the audit because you do not have the correct staff to implement...

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Sen. Sakaja Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to give a Notice of the following the Motion- THAT pursuant to Standing Order 29 (1) , this House approves the Senate Calendar (Regular Sessions) for the Fifth Session (February to December, 2021) , laid on the Table of the House on Tuesday,...

Sen. Sakaja Madam Deputy Speaker, I stand here with a sad and heavy heart because Sen. Haji is no longer with us. Yesterday was a dark day for me because as you all know, the late Sen. Haji was the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on National February 16, 2021...

Sen. Sakaja On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Sakaja Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I seek your indulgence to make a comment or two on this Petition that was brought to the House. I am grateful that Sen. (Dr.) Milgo and her Committee was able to get on it. This is because it stayed for quite a...

Sen. Sakajaprotect the interests of our counties, think about our people and their issues economically. Therefore, Sen. Wambua, congratulations for bringing this Bill.Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, when in the National Assembly, there was a Bill that was brought in the Senate - I think it passed and came to the...

Sen. Sakaja Mr. Speaker, Sir, I join colleagues in congratulating the new Majority Whip, Sen. Wamatangi, on his election as the new whip of Jubilee. I fully associate myself with the sentiments that other Members have made with respect to political parties. I thank Sen. Kang’ata for the work he...

Sen. Sakaja Mr. Speaker, Sir, I was saying that in the short stint that he has served, Sen. (Dr.) Kang’ata tried his best. We may not have agreed with his methods sometimes, but he benefited from being able to speak to every individual whenever we had issues where we did...

Sen. Sakaja I hope that Sen. Poghisio has heard because he is the one who told us about putting water on the head. Be very careful because you might be shaved, and we hope not because we like your leadership. However, be gentle and in the small politics that I...

Sen. Sakaja Yes.

Sen. Sakaja Madam Deputy Speaker, I was on a point of order, but Sen. Farhiya has finished. I understand the passion and pain and I also condemn the demolitions which are not done in a humane way. However, some words used are not parliamentary and need to be withdrawn. If...

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Sen. SakajaIf you look at these primary school children, especially, they are completely hopeless because they are hungry. We used to have a robust school feeding programme. Can it be reinstated or should we amend the Education Act? This is because in urban areas, especially in Nairobi, when there is...

Thank you, Senator. Sen. (Dr.) Zani, proceed.

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Sen. SakajaI beg to lay on the Table of the House today, Tuesday 12th May, 2020, the Fifth Progress Report of the Ad Hoc Committee on Committee on COVID-19 Situation in Kenya.Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. May 12, 2020 SENATE DEBATES 8 Sen. Sakaja I beg to lay on...

Sen. Sakaja Yes, for the record. Next Order! May 12, 2020 SENATE DEBATES 9

Sen. Sakaja(Applause) May 12, 2020 SENATE DEBATES 18 Sen. Sakaja designated list of only 28 Senators. If you look around, there is no Majority or Minority Leader and no Majority or Minority Whip.I urge that you give direction on that. We are not being fair to the people we represent...

Thank you, Sen. Sakaja. I will give directions straight away. The Senate is meeting in extraordinary times. In these circumstances, all of us are unable to attend the sittings of the House as is the case until the situation is normalized. The House will take sanctions against a Senator who...

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Sen. Sakaja(Laughter) May 12, 2020 SENATE DEBATES 26 Sen. Sakaja In the Report that I have tabled today; the Fifth Progress Report, if you look at the state of our economy, we are looking at projections of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of

Can you not get a better example Sen. Sakaja? (Laughter) Sen. Sakaja In fact, others are wearing headgear.

The robber thing looks untidy. Sen. SakajaA huge aspect of this Bill is what we are referring to as social economic protection which is extremely important. A big portion of our population in many towns and cities cannot fend for themselves during this time of curfew. We do have a...

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Sen. Sakaja Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, as always, my distinguished cousin brings serious issues before this House.

Sen. Sakaja Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, he is the distinguished nephew of Sen. Wetangula---

Sen. Sakaja Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Statement by Sen. Malalah---

Sen. Sakaja That is in order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I thank Sen. Wetangula for pointing that out. For the convenience of the House, I will coordinate with Sen. (Dr.) Mbito because he is a Member of my Committee.

Sen. Sakaja Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, just allow me to inform the House that we had raised this issue in our first progress report. A Committee has been set up by the national Government that is addressing the package of all health workers. Within that Committee, there is a representative...

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Sen. Sakaja Order! It is a point of order. May 12, 2020 SENATE DEBATES 9

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Sen. Sakajaother Communications you make will be open for debate or maybe you will change your mind or not. May 12, 2020 SENATE DEBATES 15 Sen. Sakaja other Communications you make will be open for debate or maybe you will change your mind or not.

Proceed,

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Sen. Sakaja I get it. We should--- Sen. Kihika, you have not spoken.

Sen. Sakaja Order! That is an unexceptional word.

Sen. SakajaThat is also unexceptional.

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Sen. Sakaja Must you disclose those other details? May 12, 2020 SENATE DEBATES 25 Sen. Sakaja repeated thrice. So, if you consider that matter and the HANSARD is consulted, all other such references must also be---

Sen. Sakaja, I hope you are not saying that the Chair is abetting and aiding a crime? Sen. Sakaja(Laughter)

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Sen. SakajaWith those many remarks, I hope that the Senate Majority Leader has heard. Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. asked what will happen if they fail. Yes, if they fail as well, wembe ni ule ule; we will go on. May 12, 2020 SENATE DEBATES 43

Order, Sen. Sakaja! Sen. Sakaja Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have said that, but I will leave it at that and not go into the details. Something I must impress upon Members of the Majority side. When we say oversight, I have been a chairman of a party. I do...

Sen. Sakaja About? May 12, 2020 SENATE DEBATES 44 Sen. Sakaja With those many remarks, I hope that the Senate Majority Leader has heard. Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. asked what will happen if they fail. Yes, if they fail as well, wembe ni ule ule; we will go on.

Finally, let us hear from the two. Sen. Kang’ata.

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for affording me the opportunity to make my observations on this issue. I will speak on only two issues. Number one is to congratulate my two predecessors. Secondly, I will also address some of the issues raised by---

Order! You have only one predecessor. The other one is the predecessor of Sen. Poghisio.

I apologize, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. On the second issue, I will respond to some of the issues that my colleagues have raised. First, is on the service that has been rendered by my two colleagues. Sen. Kihika, the Senator of Nakuru has served this House very well. She is...

Sen. Sakaja Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, thank you. First, allow me to congratulate the Ad hoc Committee on the COVID-19 Situation in Kenya, led by Sen. Sakaja and deputized by Sen. (Arch.) Kasanga. If there is a Committee that is working, it is this one, and we appreciate them. Secondly,...

Sen. Sakaja Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is disconcerting that many days down the line, we are still debating a Bill to provide a framework on COVID-

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Sen. Sakajain the creation of the fund, there is no reason to offend those rules because the Ministry has a fund. If we raise money for purposes of COVID-19, all we need to do is find a framework under the Public Finance Management (PFM) Act that can handle this.Mr. Deputy...

Even for other non-virus pandemics. Sen. Sakaja So long as it is a pandemic as defined by the World Health Organisation (WHO) and communicated to the President following the advice of the National Security Council. It does not matter whatever pandemic it is.

Order! The Chairperson and Vice- Chairperson of the Senate Ad Hoc Committee on the COVID-19 Situation in Kenya are violating COVID-19 rules! Order, Sen. Sakaja and your deputy! Proceed, Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.

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Sen. Sakaja Order!

You can move it in the next two minutes and then continue next time. Sen. Sakaja Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, because the Report has already been tabled.

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Sen. Sakajatogether with that of the National Assembly have brought in the issue of political and economic rights.Therefore, I wish all the PWDs in this country a happy International Day of PWDs. I hear the estimates from Sen. (Dr.) Mwaura are close to four million. As a Committee, we will...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity to support this Statement by my colleague and fellow Senator representing PWDs, Sen. (Dr.) Musuruve. From the word, go, I congratulate all PWDs and their allies on the celebration of the International Day of PWDs. This day is celebrated...

Order, Sen. Mwaura. Is it your argument that the only place with mud is Kiambu?

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, every place has mud.

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Sen. Sakaja Order Members! Proceed Sen. Sakaja. (Loud consultations)

Order Members! Proceed Sen. Sakaja. Sen. Sakajabe dealt with. The last meeting aborted but we shall reschedule that. We urge Members to attend when invited.A report has just been given by Sen. Haji regarding the Petition on settlement of awards to ex-Kenya Air Force officers and servicemen. We met the...

Hon. Members. I would like to be advised by the Chief Whips of the Parties whether we are able to carry out Divisions.

No.

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Sen. Sakaja It has rested there for the last seven years. I would like something more tangible, Majority Leader. Is it your position that there is nothing that the House can do, besides what the House has already done?

Sen. Sakaja Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is correct that it is actually your Office that has been undermined. The National Assembly has a Standing Order which negates Article 110 of the Constitution in its entirety. They do refer to a document or a Bill that comes from the Senate...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, to some extent, the Senate Majority Leader was right. It is your Office that has been undermined, and not that of the Senate Majority Leader. (Sen. Cherargei consulted the Deputy Speaker)

I am sorry; may I have that again?

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is correct that it is actually your Office that has been undermined. The National Assembly has a Standing Order which negates Article 110 of the Constitution in its entirety. They do refer to a document or a Bill that comes from the Senate to a...

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Sen. Sakaja Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to support this important Motion by Sen. (Dr.) Musuruve. Adaptive sports or what is normally known as Paralympic sports is an area that has been ignored more often than not by various institutions. I was assessing the current...

Thank you, Sen. Sakaja. You are the Chairperson of the Committee in charge and you have said that you will follow up to see that what we have discussed here and what is in this Motion is implemented.