OUNDO, WILBERFORCE OJIAMBO

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Oundo, what is out of order? Prophesies like that must be taken seriously. Indeed, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I want to add my voice to that prophesy. This is because I have seen the way your face has glared, and your soul...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. This report is on the Floor of the House, pursuant to Article 221 of the Constitution. It requires the Budget and Appropriations Committee to deliberate, hold public participation and submit its report and recommendations to this House. So, it is properly in this House, and...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I did not in any way say that Parliament does not have the power to make a Budget. I just said his hands are tied because of the fiscal and economic framework we are facing. If Hon. Raila Amolo Odinga were the President, the country would not...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I hope the time you have taken to speak will be given back to me, because you have taken five minutes. Yes, they can celebrate, but the people of Busia, who are of a lesser God, have nothing to celebrate. Hon. Temporary Speaker. Allow me to pick...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Member for Turkana, just remove your card so that you do not confuse me. Proceed, Hon. Ojiambo. Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I take this opportunity to congratulate and sincerely thank the Committee for taking the time to review outstanding and past audit reports. I...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Member for Turkana, just remove your card so that you do not confuse me. Proceed, Hon. Ojiambo. Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I take this opportunity to congratulate and sincerely thank the Committee for taking the time to review outstanding and past audit reports. I...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. It is important for a country to accept the truth, reality and live the talk. Democracy is a process; it is not an event. An election is not conducted on the day of the election; it is a process. Many of us were there in...

Let me continue and answer my in-law later, as I conclude. We must learn from history. Henry Kissinger said that a nationalist leader who does not learn from history is in danger of spiraling into anarchy. It will be unfair. Believing what happened in 2007/2008 cannot happen in this country...

Thank you, Temporary Speaker. I would request the Chairperson of the Committee, in responding to this matter, to be very deliberate in his answer. You have rightly distinguished between dumping excess labour and brain drain. Indeed, sending people to the Middle East is an act of dumping excess labour. The...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I also thank the Chairperson for the effort he has made to present the response to the request for a Statement. However, honestly speaking, this is like a defence Statement written by KUDURA Power East Africa Ltd. It obviously cuts around the main issues requested....

Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Member for Gem is completely misinformed concerning this subject matter. KUDURA Power East Africa Ltd., produces power using solar panels, and thereafter, distributes and charges them. They do not sell to Kenya Power. He is completely misinformed. He should have sought to know the correct position....

Hon. Temporary Speaker, ultimately, our country is very complicated. The better you leave things as they are, the better it is for posterity and a good life. We are not interested in the stakeholders or the exploiters. We all want the exploitation to come to an end. There is exploitation,...

Hon. Speaker, I come from a constituency that borders Uganda. It is a unique situation whereby three quarters of people from my ancestry are in Uganda. Of course, this also applies to the Maasai in Tanzania. I do not know what measures the ministry has in place to allow free...

Hon. Speaker, I concur with the sentiments of Hon. Bowen. The truth of the matter is that our universities are limping. The 29th April 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 18 Government or the Executive does not have the capacity to fund and sustain them. As he comes up with that Statement,...

Hon. Speaker, what happened in Hon. Mugabe’s place, Likuyani, is a cultural practice amongst the Luhya community. Where I come from, it is called Osola, which when translated means to take revenge against a confirmed assailant who causes death. I had a similar crisis in my constituency about three weeks...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, the amendment under (b) is not clear. Probably, the Chairlady can explain a little bit. What problem are they trying to cure by saying: (2) “Despite sub-section (1) , nothing in this Act confers upon 29th April 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 33 the Board the power to...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, this amendment might be well-intentioned, but it has all the hallmarks of fraud being committed. We will have people who will become professional caregivers just to live and hang on vulnerable persons. They will be unpaid, deficient and unsupported caregivers. They can be beneficiaries of existing social...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me also stand here to support the Motion that has been moved by our good colleague, in respect of discharging the Public Transport (Motorcycle Regulation) Bill, (Senate Bill No. 38 of 2023) . Let me go on record that Busia Town, Busia County, was...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary. I stand in solidarity with my friend in his Petition concerning land issues in his constituency. The issue of land conflicts has been clearly picked out in the Njonjo Commission Report, the Ndungú Report, the National Land Policy, and subsequent legislations. The Constitution of Kenya envisaged...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, let me join the Committee in adopting its report to annul these specific regulations. During the last term, I sat on the same Committee. If any aspect of the law-making process is shamelessly, routinely, and brazenly abused by the Executive, it is subsidiary legislation. That is where...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am not contributing to this.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The beauty about our current Standing Orders is that I will still have my five minutes when the matter is slated for debate in the next sitting. As my colleagues have done so far, I also stand to support the Learners with Disabilities Bill (Senate...

Hon. Speaker, I must admit that Mwalimu Omboko Milemba has raised a very fundamental issue, and also reminded me of the 23rd April 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 4 tribulations some of us have gone through in the process of presenting Bills that make it to the Floor of the House.I...

I do not want to go down in history like the late Martin Shikuku. Let me withdraw that particular aspect. Apologise to the House. Hon. Speaker, let me withdraw and apologise because I do not want to go the Martin Shikuku way. The fact remains that Members are being frustrated....

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I support this Bill that seeks to rectify the omission that was occasioned when we passed the Tax Laws (Amendment) Bill. We should have picked this issue out but, sometimes, the process is rushed in this House and some basic things are left out. The...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I also rise to support Sessional Paper No.1 of 2025 on Kenyan Foreign Policy. As a country, we must leverage our strategic location, history and our connections. Our foreign policy should, first and foremost, be for the benefit of the people of Kenya. We must...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I thank our former colleague for coming back here. Allow me to ask the Cabinet Secretary two very basic questions. I will ride on the first question by Hon. Kawanjiku, QPN 2/2025, on the issue of teenage mothers who do not have national identification documents (IDs)...

Hon. Speaker, I just want to tell the Cabinet Secretary that the main saboteurs of this programme are the staff of the National Health Insurance Fund (NHIF) . Whenever you go to their offices, they say they have no idea at all what SHA or Social Health Insurance Fund (SHIF)...

Hon. Speaker, with your permission, allow me to relay the message by the Cabinet Secretary to my neighbour, Hon. Wanjala. He is my neighbour and my brother-in-law. I will gladly relay the information. Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I know you are also in the same group. No, I am not,...

Hon. Speaker, thank you for this. I also happen to use that road occasionally on some private business. Indeed, sometimes I literally hold my heart in my hands when I see a Miraa transportation vehicle overtaking me or coming head-on. Regardless of our big vehicles, I always worry about what...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Allow me to take this opportunity to sincerely congratulate the two gentlemen appointed to 15th April 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 41 serve in the two State Departments at the National Treasury. I also sincerely thank the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning for vetting...

Yes, Hon. Speaker. The Constitution clearly demarcates the roles of the two Chambers of Parliament. It was always hoped and believed that the so-called senior Members who sit in the Senate would be the first people to protect the Constitution. The Fourth Schedule to the Constitution sets out the mandate...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I sit in the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives. I had the privilege to listen to the nominee when she came to make her presentation before the Committee. By 10th April 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 41 looking at her CV, any misgivings I...