OUNDO, WILBERFORCE OJIAMBO

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I send my sincere condolences to the families of our two departed colleagues on behalf of Funyula Constituency. I served with Hon. Injendi since my first term. He visited my constituency sometime in November, after the demise of his Fund Accounts Manager and we shared a...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, thank you for this opportunity. I want to draw the attention of my colleagues and the country to the fact that, with respect to the new Constitution of Kenya 2010, it is required that, within six months after the end of each financial year, audit reports shall...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. As a country and as Members of Parliament, we swore to protect the Constitution of Kenya. Respecting a court decision is not a matter of discretion; it is a must. Until the High Court decision is appealed or set aside, we have no other option but...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. At least, we have some data, whether redundant or not. At least, we have got a starting point. The Chairman could listen to Members so that he transmits this information to the relevant authorities. The issue of drug trafficking is becoming a dangerous menace in this...

I want to support the amendment, and probably, Hon. John Kiarie is busy transacting other businesses. When we sat with the State Department in respect of this matter, they said the innovation and start-ups can emanate from any sector. So, that is why there is the purpose of setting up...

I think we need to be very clear. Innovation is not innovation for the sake of it. Whoever is innovating as a start-up intends to commercialise, intends to make a living and economic gain from the innovation and that is why we concurred with the State department's thinking that if...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I will point out two things. One, we no longer talk about the registrar; we are now talking about a committee. Two, the amendment is a bit more elaborate and concise compared to what is in the Bill. Those are the differences. The Temporary Chairman...

As the Vice-Chairlady prepares to answer, let me assist my colleague. The ecosystem includes start-ups, incubators and accelerators. I want to give you an analogy. You start a start-up and then you need someone to incubate and then an accelerator. I would have given another analogy, but I can see...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, this is a very well thought-out and well-intentioned amendment. But remember Article 114 of the Constitution. These amendments more or less read like a Finance Bill. A cabinet secretary has no powers at all to issue those kinds of tax breaks without making reference to the provisions...

I second. (Question proposed)

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Let me stand and go on record to support my colleagues for bringing this constitutional amendment to entrench the NG-CDF, the Senate Oversight Fund and the NGAAF. Article 63 of the Constitution compels state organs - and that means the Government - to have reasonable access...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I take this opportunity to lend my voice to the Motion before us, regarding Mr Abdi Ahmed Mohamud's appointment as the Secretary and CEO of the EACC. Article 79 of the Constitution of Kenya on leadership and integrity establishes the EACC. The history of the fight...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I just want the Chairman to go on record once again. Clause 7 (a) (1A) (1Aa) (c) of the Bill says that the Commissioner shall require a person to integrate or share information relating to— In the case of multi-national companies, information relating to the parent company....

Hon. Speaker, thank you for the guidance. I also thank the Leader of the Majority Party. I know it is provided for in some parts of the standing orders. To put the records right, we have managed to process several Bills up to the question being put after the Second...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I just want your guidance. There are very many amendments on this clause. I also have an amendment that I would wish to prosecute. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Farah Maalim) : We will deal with it later. We have a number of amendments and we...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I raised that issue at the beginning of the consideration of the Bill. You need to give us guidance in such circumstances because we were proposing additional arrangements to the clause. My amendment was addressing the issue of different bank tiers. As Hon. Caroli Omondi said different...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, I want the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning to shed some bit of light here. We are talking about information sharing. To what extent does information shared by Credit Reference Bureaus (CRB) interface with this particular provision? As I support the amendment,...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, while I can see the intention of the amendment, this is an over legislation. Nothing stops KEBS from getting this information from the Kenya Revenue Authority, the Registrar of Companies or Business Registration Services. Let it go on record, and I hope the Leader of the Majority...

This is guidance, and I think the Whip of the Minority Party, Hon. Millie Odhiambo, has been very clear, that once the Committee sits and makes an amendment, any person be it the Chairperson or the Vice-Chairperson representing the Committee, cannot purport to drop or change the Committee resolution 4th...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. That is the resolution of the Committee and I have no objection.

Yes. This is because we have done a travesty of justice in Clause 20. However, Clause 21 is in order. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Omboko Milemba) : Order, Hon. Members. (Loud consultations)Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives, move your amendment.

Of course, it is a consequence of the amendment that some Members of our Committee adopted. Now, the only practicality of this amendment is that we are going to saddle and burden KEBS with much data that will eventually be of no use to them. Some people register companies with...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I commend the Chairman of the Committee because when he was moving the Bill, he indicated the amendments he was going to move as a result of public participation. It is good that he has kept his word and I hope he will keep it...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, this is a very commendable incentive. In the fullness of time, we need to start working out the impact of tax expenditures. Africa is very proud of giving out tax expenditure and incentives that have no reasonable value to Kenyans. Over time, we must calculate the impact...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, in principle, I support Hon. Wakili Muriu’s amendment. However, the danger we have is the question of discrimination. He talks about a procuring entity and makes reference to the Public 4th December 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 71 Procurement and Asset Disposal Act. Therefore, it means that this...

Yes, please.

Hon. Speaker, since you are magnanimous enough to intercede for the people of Kenya, and may the Almighty God bless you abundantly and fill your compound with bouncing castles or whatever you call them, we have unfinished business of the Roads Maintenance Levy Fund. I know it might be part...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I start by also empathising and sympathising with you and the people of Luanda for the massive deaths and crimes associated with Luanda because my best moments are normally shared with a lady from Luanda. Allow me also to take this opportunity to comment on...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Oundo, what is your point of order? You may take your seat, Hon. Kimani. It is not really a point of order. I would like the Chairman of the Committee to inform me and the people of Kenya so that they...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. We are back on the Tax Laws (Amendment) Bill of 2024, and I can see that almost everybody is apprehensive. Why are you worried? I am only exercising my role under Article 95 of the Constitution of Kenya, representing the people of Kenya and the...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I stand to support the Public Audit (Amendment) Bill, 2024. I want to draw from my experience as a member of PAC since 2020, and from the very many interactions I have had with the Auditor-General. 2nd December 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 24 I do...

I want to educate Members that there ought to be a criterion, but that will fall within regulations. You cannot regulate such minor details. We need to give discretion or some powers to the Commissioner so that whenever there is a conflict, they can administratively solve it without going to...

This stage is where laws are made. At the Second Reading stage is gumzo mtaani. (Hon. Gathoni Wamuchomba consulted with a Member) Ask the Member to pay attention because then I will be talking to myself. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Omboko Milemba) : Order. Hon. Wamuchomba. You were arguing very...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, if there was any clause that elicited emotions, strong and passionate discussions and debate during public participation in villages and various county headquarters, it was the issue of the term limit for directors. It was a very emotive issue. To help marry the different views, the Committee...

Hon. Wamuchomba, please, let me allay your fears. We took care of the interests of the people of Kenya and applied ourselves adequately on this matter. Having been on this Committee since the last term, and having interacted with this matter, I know where the problem lies. One of the...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, good tenets of corporate governance dictate that there must be a clear separation between directors and management. Directors should be allowed to issue policy and superintend or supervise. They are not supposed to undertake day-to-day activities. It is so unsettling to find a director going to the...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. You know, we come from different parts of the country and therefore, it is struggles pronouncing some names. My name is Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo, from Funyula Constituency; the land where, when you throw a stone, you are likely to hit somebody who at least...

I completely agree that things have changed. Men are an endangered species. We live knowing that. We need to be very realistic. Naturally, if you ask the ladies here... Ninety per cent of ladies in this country list their children or mothers when they fill their next of kin forms;...

Thank you. Mpango wa kando is not even English. You are properly informed. Yes, I am properly informed. However, we must allow society to progress. The society lives in very many ways. With those many remarks, I second the Bill by our honourable colleague. Thank you. (Question proposed)

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker, I second. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (The Bill was accordingly read a Third Time and passed) CONSIDERATION OF REPORT ON THE KENYA ROADS BOARD (AMENDMENT) BILL KENYA ROADS BOARD (AMENDMENT) BILL

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Let me also confess that I am an alumnus of “The University of Nairobi”. Very good. Secondly, I must also go on record that before I came here, I was a staff member of “The University of Nairobi” as a lecturer. Hon. Speaker, the problem we...

On a point of order, Hon. Speaker. Okay. Hon. (Dr) Oundo, what is your point of order? I know you have mentioned about us passing Bills in the National Assembly and saying outside there we do not know their content. But that is a story for another day. Sometime in...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Let me also echo the sentiments of Hon. Mbui, that for the 2024/2025 Financial Year, most constituencies have not received their funds. Probably this could be as a result of most constituencies not having submitted their proposals for this financial year. I want to ask our...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I stand to support the Public Finance Management (Amendment) (No.3) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.3 of 2024) . As I do so, it evokes the memory of Nairobi Metropolitan Services. It takes us back to the turncoat when the Governor signed the transfer instrument, but...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I support the Bill in principle. Allow me to first of all delve into Clause 3, which is an administrative reporting matter that is required under the Constitution and the parent Act. Let me also share my experience as a Member of the Public Accounts...

I second the agreement of the Report of the Committee of the whole House. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. 27th November 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 70 CONSIDERATION OF REPORT ON THE ETHICS AND ANTI-CORRUPTION COMMISSION (AMENDMENT) BILL

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I thank my colleagues for contributing to this Bill. I thank the Departmental Committee on Lands for carrying out public participation in respect of this Bill. I also thank the Speaker of the National Assembly for occasionally intervening to ensure that we get to this...