OUNDO, WILBERFORCE OJIAMBO

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I stand to support the Report by the Public Investments Committee on Social Services, Administration and Agriculture. I commend the Committee for going into the archives and retrieving some long-standing issues in their Report here. Two issues require clarification and must be put on record....

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I stand to support the Report by the Public Investments Committee on Social Services, Administration and Agriculture. I commend the Committee for going into the archives and retrieving some long-standing issues in their Report here. Two issues require clarification and must be put on record....

Chair, I wish to join in support of the sentiments expressed by Hon. Dawood. Article 115 of the Constitution of Kenya has been routinely abused by subsequent presidents to assume the right to make laws, a right enshrined in the Constitution and vested fully in Members of Parliament. If there...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I commend the Departmental Committee Chairperson for this timely amendment. To be honest, police officers and other members of the disciplined forces seem to be going through a lot and a lot seems to be going through them as well. Could we also have the...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, during the Second Reading, I cautioned my good friend, Hon. Aden, that he is preparing a rope that will hang him sooner than later by including the word “terrorism” in this Bill. We already have an Anti-Terrorism Act. Introducing “terrorism” here is making a rope, and it...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. In view of what has happened in the recent past, where even boys who, simply, threw stones have been charged under the Terrorism Act, if the amendment passes as it is, it means that even on your phone, if they suspect that you participated in...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, while these amendments are laudable, I think we are being over-reactionary. I have always told young people that if you do not have thick skins, enough shock absorbers or a big heart, then do not join public space. Because whichever way, you will be ridiculed; either in...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I second. (Question proposed)

Hon. Temporary Speaker… Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo, what is burning? I just want to make a point. I commend Hon. Daudi. Many times, Members prepare Bills, but getting to this level is a herculean task. It is a long and rigorous process. We should encourage as many Members as possible...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. On that account… In law, we say not even the devil knows what is in a man's mind. Thank you. The devil does not come across my mind. In respect to what Members probably think I imputed the wrong motive… Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo. It...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Truly, sometimes, it is an embarrassment to the people of Kenya. Members of Parliament are elected to represent, oversee and legislate. It baffles many of us how a Member of Parliament can fail to attend a sitting of the plenary. I have never understood it....

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. At the outset, let me stand to support the Bill, which seeks to grant county governments additional funds to undertake functions assigned to them in the Fourth Schedule and expressly stated in the Constitution. At the outset, let us make it very clear that all...

Chair, I wish to join in support of the sentiments expressed by Hon. Dawood. Article 115 of the Constitution of Kenya has been routinely abused by subsequent presidents to assume the right to make laws, a right enshrined in the Constitution and vested fully in Members of Parliament. If there...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I commend the Departmental Committee Chairperson for this timely amendment. To be honest, 25th September 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 18 police officers and other members of the disciplined forces seem to be going through a lot and a lot seems to be going through them...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, during the Second Reading, I cautioned my good friend, Hon. Aden, that he is preparing a rope that will hang him sooner than later by including the word “terrorism” in this Bill. We already have an Anti-Terrorism Act. Introducing “terrorism” here is making a rope, and it...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. In view of what has happened in the recent past, where even boys who, simply, threw stones have been charged under the Terrorism Act, if the amendment passes as it is, it means that even on your phone, if they suspect that you participated in...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, while these amendments are laudable, I think we are being over-reactionary. I have always told young people that if you do not have thick skins, enough shock absorbers or a big heart, then do not join public space. Because whichever way, you will be ridiculed; either in...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I second. (Question proposed)

Hon. Temporary Speaker… Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo, what is burning? I just want to make a point. I commend Hon. Daudi. Many times, Members prepare Bills, but getting to this level is a herculean task. It is a long and rigorous process. We should encourage as many Members as possible...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. On that account… In law, we say not even the devil knows what is in a man's mind. Thank you. The devil does not come across my mind. In respect to what Members probably think I imputed the wrong motive… Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo. It...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Truly, sometimes, it is an embarrassment to the people of Kenya. Members of Parliament are elected to represent, oversee and legislate. It baffles many of us how a Member of Parliament can fail to attend a sitting of the plenary. I have never understood it....

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. At the outset, let me stand to support the Bill, which seeks to grant county governments additional funds to undertake functions assigned to them in the Fourth Schedule and expressly stated in the Constitution. At the outset, let us make it very clear that all...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Allow me to join my colleagues in thanking Hon. Tim Wanyonyi, the Member for the famous Westlands and probably the incoming governor, for bringing this subject matter to public debate. We have debated this matter for many years, since I joined the University of Nairobi,...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. On behalf of the people of Funyula Constituency, allow me to congratulate and sincerely thank the athletes who brought honour and fame to the people of Kenya. It was always refreshing and captivating to watch. Whenever I had time, I watched. It indeed showed that there...

On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Yes, Hon. Oundo. What is your point of order? Hon. Deputy Speaker, given the time remaining before the session concludes, I recognise the significance of this Bill to the people of Kenya, particularly in rural areas. I respectfully request that, in your...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. On behalf of the people of Funyula Constituency, allow me to congratulate and sincerely thank the athletes who brought honour and fame to the people of Kenya. It was always refreshing and captivating to watch. Whenever I had time, I watched. It indeed showed that there...

On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Yes, Hon. Oundo. What is your point of order? Hon. Deputy Speaker, given the time remaining before the session concludes, I recognise the significance of this Bill to the people of Kenya, particularly in rural areas. I respectfully request that, in your...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I join my colleagues in supporting the Motion for the consideration of nominees for appointment as Chairperson and Member of the National Police Service Commission of the Republic of Kenya. Hon. Temporary Speaker, the National Police Service (NPS) is among the national security organs established...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me also stand in solidarity with my colleague Hon. Daudi Aden in supporting the Computer Misuse and Cybercrime (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.41 of 2024) . I come from a liberal world that is averse to censorship and some form of control. However,...

But I am still on the Floor, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to support the Bill that Hon. Martha Wangari has sponsored. If I do not support the Bill, I will lose some privileges that I have always had in some places. (Laughter) 14th August 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 41 What is...

Thank you, Bishop, for that clarification. Let me rephrase. Yes. We are in the House of Rules. Give me a minute. I will give Hon. Oundo time to conclude. As we now delve into registration details, as provided for in the Children’s Act and the Constitution, we must find a...

Perhaps the Bishop needs to pray for fathers to accept the outcomes of their endeavours so that they do not abandon their children's lives. With those many remarks, I support.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I just wish to ask this Cabinet Secretary what measures have been put in place to ensure that the NPS or the police adhere to High Court judgment or directive that requires any policeman assigned for purposes of riots or demonstrations to be easily identifiable; that...

Hon. Speaker, on the same issue of identity cards, I will make a request to the Cabinet Secretary. There are very many young people who are joining colleges and universities. They have applied for identity cards and have 13th August 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 55 waiting cards. Is there a...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, in the absence of the Chair and the Vice-Chair, I will undertake to transmit the request for the statement. We request that the Member allow us two weeks after the resumption of the sittings of the House, sometime towards the end of or early September, to provide...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am always baffled when we waste valuable parliamentary time discussing someone who does not sit in this House. We were told that within two weeks after impeachment, he would be a non-entity, and that he would be inconsequential as he would even be unable to move....

Hon. Temporary Speaker, sometimes we say “The rich also cry.” The Member representing the Chairman of the Committee and I come from the same county. Whenever it drizzles— not even rains— in Busia County, power goes off in almost the entire Busia County. Having read a false and misleading Statement,...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, in the absence of the Chair and the Vice-Chair, I will undertake to transmit the request for the statement. We request that the Member allow us two weeks after the resumption of the sittings of the House, sometime towards the end of or early September, to provide...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am always baffled when we waste valuable parliamentary time discussing someone who does not sit in this House. We were told that within two weeks after impeachment, he would be a non-entity, and that he would be inconsequential as he would even be unable to move....

Hon. Temporary Speaker, sometimes we say “The rich also cry.” The Member representing the Chairman of the Committee and I come from the same county. Whenever it drizzles— not even rains— in Busia County, power goes off in almost the entire Busia County. Having read a false and misleading Statement,...

Hon. Speaker, I sympathise with my good friend, Hon. Melly, and I must sincerely, thank him for disowning the Statement. Thank you.

Hon. Speaker, I want Hon. Melly to listen carefully, intently and intensively, so that I can remit and commit this complaint. For those intervening, you have a minute each. Hon. Speaker, as I said yesterday, schools are bleeding. Whenever any money comes to the schools, the education office literally calls...

Hon. Speaker, many of us who are here today have received many calls and representations to assist schools to attend the function and activities in Meru. I have a school in my constituency, Moody Awori Primary School, that is taking about 70 learners to participate in the function and activities...

Hon. Speaker, many of us who are here today have received many calls and representations to assist schools to attend the function and activities in Meru. I have a school in my constituency, Moody Awori Primary School, that is taking about 70 learners to participate in the function and activities...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. While responding on the same, I want the Departmental Committee on Education to clarify a matter that seems to be gaining currency in most rural schools. Are they referred to as junior secondary schools, primary schools or comprehensive schools under the leadership of a head of...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I would not want to delve into the legal issues because that is your forte. I just want to draw the attention of the hospitals that Article 43 of the Constitution of Kenya gives the right to medical care regardless of the hospital. So, as a starting...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me take this opportunity to laud the Committee for approving the regulations that provide enhanced medical cover for those working in the public service. When SHA came in with the various laws, they abolished the preferential enhanced treatment that was common during the National...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, this matter was raised earlier when the substantive Speaker was in the Chair. We need to be guided, because we have a Supplementary Order Paper. That is what we were told to refer to. Under the Supplementary Order Paper, Order 15 is the matter we have just...

The Order Paper appearing on this gadget we normally use, lists Order 17 as the Kenya Roads (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.31 of 2024) , by Hon. Naisula Lesuuda, which is due for Second Reading. There must be some confusion somewhere.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. From the outset, allow me to sincerely thank Hon. Lesuuda for this well thought out Bill. I also congratulate her for her courage to move to where we are. I stand here to second and sincerely thank all those who have worked to get to...