Wilberforce Ojiambo Oundo

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. On Clause 11, Hon. Mboni mentioned an issue that a member shall not be appointed to a board of directors if he has been a politician who served an elective post in the past five years. When did becoming...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) That is why I said it is the contradiction that is…

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. When I finish, I will join my colleagues from the World Scout Parliamentary Unit (WSPU) , in a cocktail hosted by the Right Hon. Speaker of the mighty National Assembly of Kenya. Allow me to also make comments on...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, the Bill, as it is, is well intentioned but has many gaps. I hope that when it went for public participation, the experts and the lay leaders pointed out these gaps. I also want to refer to the point raised by...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Thank you, Hon. Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to contribute. For sure, this Bill has been with us for far too long, but we must get it right. Any unresolved mistake or issue will lead to unnecessary litigation, delaying the intended objective of...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) It is okay, Hon. Temporary Speaker. As a teacher, when a brilliant student in class stands up and says he wants to assist you, you listen,

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Precisely.

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Precisely, Hon. Temporary Speaker. That is why I said the Bill has contradictions. It talks about funding through money appropriated by the National Assembly. They are saying that they are self-financing and profit- making, and therefore, they intend to put some money in the...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Two or so.

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) I would like the Committee to apply its mind so that when we move those amendments, we are in a position to deal with that matter. Another contradiction arises under Clause 20, which states that the remuneration of directors of a Government-owned enterprise shall...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) I occasionally go to Kitui. I hear it is in future, not in 2027 but in 2052. (Laughter)

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I empathise with the Vice-Chair for the Statement and being a conveyor belt. I want to bring to his attention, and I hope he is listening, an idea that they can explore at the Committee's level, as well as...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support this Report, as presented by the Committee on Implementation. I would like to go on record as saying that any system that removes subjectivity and brings objectivity to public finance management and procurement-related activities should...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 43, I rise to make a Statement regarding the hosting of the 11th World Scout Parliamentary Union (WSPU) General Assembly scheduled to be held from 6th to 13th November 2025, in Kenya. The World Scout...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. The Cabinet Secretary must be aware that, as Hon. Baya has said, the Ministry is full of cartels. For example, there is a deliberate process to understate the number of learners in some schools and inflate in others. How is...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Hon. Speaker, as my colleagues have said, the Cabinet Secretary needs to come out very clearly on what SHA covers and what it does not. I want to go on record that my mother stayed in hospital for five days, and SHA only paid...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. The Cabinet Secretary must be aware that, as Hon. Baya has said, the Ministry is full of cartels. For example, there is a deliberate process to understate the number of learners in some schools and inflate in others. How is...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Hon. Speaker, as my colleagues have said, the Cabinet Secretary needs to come out very clearly on what SHA covers and what it does not. I want to go on record that my mother stayed in hospital for five days, and SHA only paid...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I also rise to support the two Petitions, particularly Petition No. 22/2025. When the Cabinet Secretary was here yesterday, it seemed like we were talking at cross purposes, as a country. What the Cabinet Secretary and the lecturers are...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, this is a new clause. It is not an amendment to an existing clause. Clause 13 of the Bill reads: "The Principal Act is amended by inserting the following new sections immediately after Section 20." They are inserting Section 20A, which...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM)Allow me to continue.

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. In the last Parliament, we used to say, “Madam Speaker, Sir.” Let me also join my colleagues in supporting this Bill ―The Intergovernmental Relations (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bill No. 12 of 2024. We established devolution to move activities from...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, you are aware that a Member can stand at any time during debate in the Second Reading and question the constitutionality of a Bill. That is what I am doing. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Are you contributing or raising...

Hon (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) On a point of order. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) What is out of order, Member for Funyula? Hon (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I wish to draw your attention to Standing Order 80. If you permit, let me read....

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, this is a new clause. It is not an amendment to an existing clause. Clause 13 of the Bill reads: "The Principal Act is amended by inserting the following new sections immediately after Section 20." They are inserting Section 20A, which...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM)Allow me to continue.

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. In the last Parliament, we used to say, “Madam Speaker, Sir.” Let me also join my colleagues in supporting this Bill ―The Intergovernmental Relations (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bill No. 12 of 2024. We established devolution to move activities from...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, you are aware that a Member can stand at any time during debate in the Second Reading and question the constitutionality of a Bill. That is what I am doing. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Are you contributing or raising...

Hon (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) On a point of order. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) What is out of order, Member for Funyula? Hon (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I wish to draw your attention to Standing Order 80. If you permit, let me read....

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, this is a new clause. It is not an amendment to an existing clause. Clause 13 of the Bill reads: "The Principal Act is amended by inserting the following new sections immediately after Section 20." They are inserting Section 20A, which...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM)Allow me to continue.

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. In the last Parliament, we used to say, “Madam Speaker, Sir.” Let me also join my colleagues in supporting this Bill ―The Intergovernmental Relations (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bill No. 12 of 2024. We established devolution to move activities from...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, you are aware that a Member can stand at any time during debate in the Second Reading and question the constitutionality of a Bill. That is what I am doing. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) Are you contributing or raising...

Hon (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) On a point of order. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Martha Wangari) What is out of order, Member for Funyula? Hon (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I wish to draw your attention to Standing Order 80. If you permit, let me read....

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Deputy Speaker What is your point of order, Hon. Oundo? Let it be the last one. Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Hon. Deputy Speaker, we appreciate and respect your ruling because the speaker's ruling...

Hon (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Thank you.It is gratifying to note that the Cabinet Secretary is considering alternative means of adjudication so that we do not continue punishing our children and burdening the parents to take kids very far distances. Probably we could also make it a policy to...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) As we said earlier, it seems the Cabinet Secretary is under-informed. I do not want to say misinformed. He is under-informed. Frantically, even as today morning, the sub-county director of education of Samia District told 8th October 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 33 Hon. (Dr)...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) What is your point of order? Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Hon. Temporary Speaker, when you were in the House yesterday, Hon. Donya raised an issue. There was a...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Allow me to ask the Cabinet Secretary two questions. Number one is on the issue of capitation. There are many new schools that we have established through the National Government- Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF) , which already have a...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Deputy Speaker What is your point of order, Hon. Oundo? Let it be the last one. Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Hon. Deputy Speaker, we appreciate and respect your ruling because the speaker's ruling...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) What is your point of order, Member for Funyula? Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I hope the Cabinet Secretary is not distracted. Do not...

Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula, ODM) I am okay on this issue, Hon. Temporary Speaker.