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Thank you, Hon. Speaker. On behalf of the Leader of the Majority Party, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: No.2 of 2025 regarding the proposal on the Privatization of talked about – the one on privatization of Kenya Pipeline Company Limited – which is available in...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I want to join you and your family and the people of Bungoma in condoling with the family of James Mukhongo. I want to say one thing about this. Chinua Achebe says that if you wash your hands well, you can eat with the kings. Regarding...

Hon. Speaker, I thank Hon. Omboko Milemba for being an educationist and for having raised this very important matter. On the issues that has been raised by my friend Hon. (Dr) Oundo, the Government sends capitation to schools that includes activity money, examination, and all manner of funds that schools...

Hon. Owen Baya (Kilifi North, UDA) : There are thousands of students in Meru, and there were thousands in Kakamega for the ball games. I request you and this House that tomorrow, the Cabinet Secretary for Education appears here to answer and respond to the question of how the students...

Much obliged, Hon. Speaker.

Much obliged, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Owen Baya (Kilifi North, UDA) : Unfortunately, all those Chairpersons are not here, Hon. Speaker.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I plan to follow up with the respective chairpersons on the same. But, also, we are colleagues here. Sometimes, a Member can just prod a chairperson and say: "Hey! Where is the response to my request for statement?" That can make work very easy. (Several Hon....

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I take your guidance, and I will guide the chairpersons so that they are here. You are not going to guide them! You are going to cause them to be here. It is not a question of guidance! It is a responsibility and a duty. Much...

Yes, Hon. Speaker. On the same matter, the Chairperson of the Diaspora Affairs and Migrant Workers Committee spoke to me about it. She briefed me and informed me that the matter has been directed to the Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations. That is the appropriate Committee, and...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. On behalf of the Leader of the Majority Party, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I want to join you and your family and the people of Bungoma in condoling with the family of James Mukhongo. I want to say one thing about this. Chinua Achebe says that if you wash your hands well, you can eat with the kings. Regarding...

Hon. Speaker, I thank Hon. Omboko Milemba for being an educationist and for having raised this very important matter. On the issues that has been raised by my friend Hon. (Dr) Oundo, the Government sends capitation to schools that includes activity money, examination, and all manner of funds that schools...

There are thousands of students in Meru, and there were thousands in Kakamega for the ball games. I request you and this House that tomorrow, the Cabinet Secretary for Education appears here to answer and respond to the question of how the students have been facilitated in Meru, taken care...

Much obliged, Hon. Speaker.

Much obliged, Hon. Speaker.

Unfortunately, all those Chairpersons are not here, Hon. Speaker.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I plan to follow up with the respective chairpersons on the same. But, also, we are colleagues here. Sometimes, a Member can just prod a chairperson and say: "Hey! Where is the response to my request for statement?" That can make work very easy. (Several Hon....

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I take your guidance, and I will guide the chairpersons so that they are here. You are not going to guide them! You are going to cause them to be here. It is not a question of guidance! It is a responsibility and a duty. Much...

Yes, Hon. Speaker. On the same matter, the Chairperson of the Diaspora Affairs and Migrant Workers Committee spoke to me about it. She briefed me and informed me that the matter has been directed to the Departmental Committee on Defence, Intelligence and Foreign Relations. That is the appropriate Committee, and...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Report on the Cell, Tissue and Organ Transplant Services in Kenya from the Ministry of Health. Proposed budget ceiling for each constituency for the Financial Year 2025/2026 from the National Government Constituencies Development Fund Board. Hon. Speaker, this...

Sorry, I seem to be disturbing your Clerks-at- the-Table. I am looking for Order No.15 in the Supplementary Order Paper that we have. You are not disturbing. You are just distracting. It is the County Assemblies Pensions Scheme Bill (Senate Bill No.14 of 2024) . The one that we have...

Much obliged, Hon. Speaker. I will do as directed.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Tourism and Wildlife regarding the status of the construction of the Ronald Ngala Utalii College in Kilifi County. On 1st...

Much obliged, Hon. Speaker.

Yes, Hon. Speaker. This is a problem that needs to be looked at. I have chiefs and assistant chiefs in Kilifi County, who were hired a year ago but they have not been paid. You can imagine a chief waking up every day, serving the people, and he does not...

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I stand to support my sister, Hon. Beatrice Kemei and other Women Hon. Members who have spoken about this matter. The big issue that the society wants to deal with is rape or defilement, it is degenerating and not moving forward. As men in...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I gladly say two weeks. I will talk to the Chairman to ensure it is done within that time. Thank you.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I rise in my capacity as the Member for Kilifi North. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I rise to request for a Statement from the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Tourism and Wildlife regarding the management of Watamu Marine National...

These are very interesting times, Hon. Temporary Speaker. On behalf of the Committee, I promise that they will bring a response in two weeks’ time. I also urge Chairpersons to be in the House, especially on Wednesday 30th July 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 6 A certified version of this Report...

I withdraw, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The response will be given in two weeks.

The word ‘Kwanza’, in this case, is a noun. It could be any language. It cannot be translated to mean ‘Kwanza’ as in ‘first’ in Kiswahili. It cannot. (Laughter) 30th July 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 25 A certified version of this Report statement and speak in English because the Standing...

Hon. Speaker, on behalf of the Leader of the Majority Party, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. They need to pay me for doing their job. Waniangalie vizuri as I do their job. What do they need to do? Which job? The Whip of the Majority Party and the Whip of the Minority Party, and the Leader of the Majority Party.

I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, pursuant to provisions of Standing Order 49 (2) (a) , this House resolves to rescind its decision of Thursday, 24th July 2025, with respect to the Second Reading of the Election Offences (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill, (Senate Bill No.28 of 2024) ....

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. In replying, I urge Members to pass this because it is a Procedural Motion that is meant to address a very important and fundamental matter that is before this House. I urge Members to vote for it so that we can proceed to Order No. 9....

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker and Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah, the leader. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Meteorology Bill (Senate Bill No.45 of 2023) be now read a Second Time. As Members recall, the Meteorology Bill was read a First Time on 3rd December 2024....

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. This is a very important Bill that we must enact as a Parliament to legalise our meteorological services in this country. I want to quote my area chief, Dixon Kitona. He was watching this debate and has contributed to it saying, “Yes Mhesh, the Act...

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to move: THAT, the Pyrethrum (Repeal) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.40 of 2024) be now read a Second Time. By way of introduction, I want to make a few introductory remarks. Pyrethrum was introduced in Kenya in 1928 and quickly grew...

No, the good Bishop is ready. I am just alerting him that when I am done in a few minutes, he will be up to second this Bill. As part of the wider agricultural sector reforms (this is where the rubber meets the road) , three key laws were enacted...

Thank you so much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. It is also my pleasure to reply. I listened to my friend, Hon. Ndindi Nyoro, who now sounds like a professor in a university giving very good lectures. I think this is the next thing you need to go to; become a professor...

I was there and I enjoyed my time. I can induct you on how to become a good professor. You have good ideas on the economy and agriculture. I appreciate you very much. In replying, it is now time that we repeal the pyrethrum law and ensure that we allow...

Hon. Speaker, before I lay Papers on the Table, let me take this opportunity to congratulate our new Member and welcome him to the Chamber. Hon. Harold Kipchumba Kimuge, welcome to the 13th Parliament. The Majority Party side welcomes you. Thank you very much. Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay...

Hon. Speaker, I am a Christian. I am the grandson of an Archdeacon of the Anglican Church. My brother is the Bishop of Mombasa County. I said that the Majority Party side welcomes the new Member. That is what I heard. (Laughter)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Kenya Roads (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.16 of 2025) and approved the same with amendments.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole House has considered the County Public Finance Laws (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bill No. 39 of 2023) and approved the same without amendments.

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. It is my pleasure to also contribute to the debate on this Report. I support the 29th July 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 31 A certified version of this Report recommendations made by the Committee upon the examination of the financial statements of selected...

He wants to know the meaning of the word “chaperoning.” (Laughter)

Hon. Kitur, I will teach you a few things.

Then you will allow me to teach him a few lessons. Hon. Temporary Speaker, the KPC has also been mentioned. Before I go to that issue, I also heard Hon. Pkosing talk about the Mzizima Pipeline. The people of Mombasa County have waited for many years for the Mzizima Pipeline...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I want to ask the Member for Wamunyoro to slow down and keep quiet so we can lay the papers. I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I want to raise the issue of Kilifi-Ganze Road, the famous Bamba Road. The contractor is now back on site, but 23rd July 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 24 the road has been severely destroyed by the ongoing rains. People cannot actually access Bamba because the road...

Yes, Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am ready to move. If you give me permission right now, I will do exactly that. Yes, fair enough. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to move: That, this House do now consider the Senate amendments to the National Disaster Risk Management Bill, 2023...

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I agree that this Bill must be defeated on the Floor of this House so that we give chance to mediation. As a country, we need the Bill. However, because the Senate has done what it did, it is important that we allow...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, now that there is no interest on this Bill, I request that you allow the Mover to reply. On Order No. 12? Yes, Hon. Temporary Speaker. It is on resumption of debate adjourned on Tuesday, July 22, 2025. There is no interest on the Bill. Fair enough....

Hon. Temporary Speaker, listening to the Member, I start doubting his credentials as a lawyer. Everybody in this country knows who the Mijikenda are. The Pokomo are not part of the Mijikenda. Even you know that. So, it is misleading when you read a document that states that the Pokomo...

On a point of order, Hon.Temporary Speaker. Hon. Owen Baya, what is out of order? You know Hon. Lesuuda is very senior. She is senior even to me. However, we have never heard the word “shouting” in National Assembly or Parliament as a whole. It is unparliamentary. We are taking...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Election Offences (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (Senate Bill No.28 of 2024) be now read a Second Time. 22nd July 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 42 I would like to ask Hon. Mayaka and Hon. Lesuuda to listen. This Bill is very important and...

(Motion deferred)Hon. Temporary Speaker, thank you. I, kindly, want to indulge you. Allow us to stand down this for now and we put it next when the Chairman is available.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, noting that the Chairman is not in the House, and this is an important Report that we must debate, I request 22nd July 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 47 that this be deferred until next time when the Chairman is available for moving the same and debate thereafter.Thank...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following papers on the Table:

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. (Several Members stood at the Bar)

The nearest to the Speaker. (Laughter) Go ahead. Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Finance Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 19 of 2025) be now read a Third Time. Hon. Speaker, I thank Members who participated in the debate and the eventual completion of this very important piece...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to move that the Kenya National Council for Population and Development Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 72 of 2023) be now read a Third time. Hon. Speaker, once again, I thank the Members who participated yesterday. Yesterday we had a full House here; not...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. It comes with the office. (Laughter) Proceed, Deputy Leader of the Majority Party. I want to contribute to this very important Bill from the Senate. I congratulate the Senate for thinking about it. This is a matter we thought about, even when I served at...

That is what we have subjected the county assemblies to. In the 21st century, they operate under a 20th century paradigm. This Bill is trying to shift that into a modern paradigm. It is the right thing. The MCAs need to be independent, 19th June 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 62...

We agreed that it be deferred until Parliament sits next. Thank you.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker, for that indulgence to allow us to rearrange the Order Paper a little bit. Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, this House resolves to exempt the business appearing as Order Nos. 10, 11 and 12 in today’s Order Paper from...

I hear the Vice-Chairman is here. Hon. Captain Major Bashir is here. He can do the undertaking.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Just a minute. 18th June 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 8 (Loud consultations)

Ahsante sana Mhe. Spika wa Muda. Naafiki Mswada huu uweze Kusomwa kwa Mara ya Tatu. Kama vile Wabunge wenzangu na Mhe. Ruweida walivyosema, huu ni Mswada nzuri sana ambao utasaidia watu wa pwani. Kilifi ni kati ya zile kaunti zilizona ufuo wa bahari mrefu sana na watu wengi kazi yao...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:

I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Supplementary Estimates (No.3) for the 2024/2025 Financial Year and the following accompanying documents from the National Treasury: 18th June 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 13

Just a concern. The Mwongozo Code says three years. I do not know why we are doing something very different. We are amending a lot of laws to align them to the three years Mwongozo Code, with one renewable term. However, I hear four years which is not what the...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, if I suggest an amendment to a Bill that is not mine, then I am required to circulate all that. (Hon. Kwenya Thuku spoke off the record) The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Omboko Milemba) : Order, Hon. Thuku. This is a House of procedures. However, this Bill belongs...

It is a registered society under the law. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. Omboko Milemba) : Hon. Rutto, what did you want to say?

Hon. Temporary Chairman, before I move, all those institutions that have been mentioned, including the Legio Maria, belong to the Evangelical Alliance of Kenya, which has over 300 churches under its umbrella. I have just checked. All those churches subscribe to the same organisation except the Seventh-Day Adventist Church, which...

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I wish to thank the Committee and all those who have participated in the debate on the Finance Bill 2025. I look forward to a time when this country shall handle one Finance Bill every two or three years, so that we are...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that this House do agree with the report of the Committee of the whole House on its consideration of the Kenya National Council for Population and Development (National Assembly Bill No. 72 of 2023) . This is a very important piece of legislation...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise on Standing Order 209 (2) , on a matter of great importance to the people of Kilifi County and the Coast region in general regarding water. The people of Kilifi and Mombasa Counties get water from Baricho Water Works (BWW) . Offtake of this...

Hon. Speaker, give me one minute so that I can consult with the Leader of the Majority Party. He moved away with everything. (Laughter) REDUCTION OF THE PUBLICATION PERIOD OF SPECIFIED BILLS Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 120,...