Baya Owen Yaa

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following papers on the Table: Reports of the Auditor-General and Financial Statements for the year ended 30th June 2025 and the certificates therein in respect of:

Thank you. Proper economic growth began during the early years of Kibaki's term, when Initial Public Offerings (IPOs) started to emerge 1st October 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 13 in this country. KCB, Safaricom, KenGen and many other IPOs came in. I want to tell this House that this country has...

Nothing is out of order. I also wish to join Tom Joseph Francis Kajwang’ and you in welcoming the gallant sons from Homa Bay Town. This represents the future of our nation and our State. The State is built by young and energetic individuals who are academically talented. They are...

Nothing is out of order. I also wish to join Tom Joseph Francis Kajwang’ and you in welcoming the gallant sons from Homa Bay Town. This represents the future of our nation and our State. The State is built by young and energetic individuals who are academically talented. They are...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to make the following Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee, which met on Tuesday, 23rd September 2025, to prioritise business for consideration during the week. Hon. Speaker, I wish to...

Hon. Owen Baya (Kilifi North, UDA) : You cannot have. (Hon. Mary Emaase spoke off the record) Thank you. Hon. Members, consult in low tones. Yes, can I be heard in honourable silence? Additionally, debate will continue on the following Motions, should they not be concluded today: of the Public...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to make the following Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee, which met on Tuesday, 23rd September 2025, to prioritise business for consideration during the week. Hon. Speaker, I wish to...

You cannot have. (Hon. Mary Emaase spoke off the record) Thank you. Hon. Members, consult in low tones. Yes, can I be heard in honourable silence? Additionally, debate will continue on the following Motions, should they not be concluded today: (Loud consultations) Order, Hon. Members! I do not know what...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to lay the following papers on the Table: QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS REQUEST FOR STATEMENT

On a point of order. Yes, Hon. Owen, what is your point of order? Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I appreciate the response coming from the Honourable Member of Parliament. Sometimes our Chairpersons have no control over Statements since they are generated by Cabinet Secretaries. When they are brought to...

My advice is that she bring a Question, so that we can call the Cabinet Secretary to this House to respond. Thank you.

On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker.

That is a very interesting speech from Hon. Zamzam State your point of order. There are no political rejects. People who lose seats in Parliament are also professionals. We have teachers, engineers and doctors here. When they lose seats, they have an opportunity to serve the country in another capacity....

Hon. Deputy Speaker, that is a very important point raised by Hon. Gisairo. It concerns all of us. There is a Court order… Do not go over his point again. I am making a ruling to request that you get the answers from the National Treasury and give a response...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I want to join my colleagues, the Member for Rongo and the Leader of the Minority Party, in condoling with the family of the late Hon. Dalmas Otieno Anyango. Hon. Dalmas worked tirelessly for this nation in different capacities. He served this country with distinction and...

Much obliged, Hon. Speaker.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker for giving me this opportunity. I will give information that was sought by Hon. Clive Gisairo on the matter of the National Government – Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF) . I had an engagement with the Cabinet Secretary for The National Treasury and Economic Planning, Hon. John...

Hon. Speaker, I wish to thank those who have contributed. I believe we are not of different opinions. We are saying the same things. We are all congratulating and thanking the President for these appointments. I think it is time now to call the mover to reply. I thank you.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I want to join my friend, the Member for Kirinyaga Central, in welcoming the very well dressed and smart students in the Speaker’s Gallery. You are welcome to the National Assembly to listen and to celebrate your presence. Not everybody gets a chance to come...

Yes. That black man died. He was killed by a police officer and the whole situation became a mess that cost the then President of the USA, Donald Trump, his seat. Just that one mistake by one police officer. 24th September 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 26 Apart from the KNCHR...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I congratulate the gracious lady, Hon. Kagiri, for bringing this Motion on the extension of the term of the African Growth and Opportunities Act. This Act was conceived in the year 2000. It was a progressive piece of legislation that came into force between Africa...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, there is no interest to speak on this Motion. I propose that next time it appears on the Order Paper, the Mover will be called upon to reply.

This is supposed to be done by the Leader of the Majority Party, but as I stand, allow me to reschedule it so that we can do it afresh tomorrow.

In the absence of the Chairman, Hon. Temporary Speaker, I request that you indulge me by stepping it down until we are able to reschedule it on the Order Paper.

(Bill deferred)Indulge me, Hon. Temporary Speaker, to step it down until next time. Thank you. ADJOURNMENT

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. It is nice to be back for the last Part of the Fourth Session. Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: relating to the National Police Service Commission Implementation Review Report for the Implementation Review Report for the of the Commission...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I join fellow Members in congratulating our athletes. An investment in sports is an investment in the pride of the nation. Today, we stand tall as a country celebrating the great feat of our athletes and our sportspeople. Probably, this great achievement that happened in Japan...

On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker. What is your point of order, Hon. Owen? Hon. Kaluma is my senior in many ways, but when he says ‘a few learned Members of Parliament’, he needs to qualify it to say ‘learned friends’ because that is how lawyers call themselves....

Hon. Owen Baya (Kilifi North, UDA) : Yes, you moved.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. First, I congratulate the learned friends for doing a commendable job. (Hon. Peter Kaluma spoke off the record) I have said that I congratulate the learned friends for a good job. As I speak as part of the educated friends, I wish to say that...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. It is nice to be back for the last Part of the Fourth Session. Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I join fellow Members in congratulating our athletes. An investment in sports is an investment in the pride of the nation. Today, we stand tall as a country celebrating the great feat of our athletes and our sportspeople. Probably, this great achievement that happened in Japan...

On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker. What is your point of order, Hon. Owen? Hon. Kaluma is my senior in many ways, but when he says ‘a few learned Members of Parliament’, he needs to qualify it to say ‘learned friends’ because that is how lawyers call themselves....

Yes, you moved.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. First, I congratulate the learned friends for doing a commendable job. (Hon. Peter Kaluma spoke off the record) I have said that I congratulate the learned friends for a good job. As I speak as part of the educated friends, I wish to say that...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table:

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I promise to give a response once we come back from recess.

The week is not over; it includes the afternoon. Allow me to inform the concerned Chairman so that your response can be in the afternoon brief.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I would like to thank the Leader of the Majority Party for ably moving the Bill. This is a fairly short Bill that seeks to ensure that the money apportioned under the Air Passenger Service Charge is shared among other institutions. There are three institutions...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I would like to thank the Leader of the Majority Party for ably moving the Bill. This is a fairly short Bill that seeks to ensure that the money apportioned under the Air Passenger Service Charge is shared among other institutions. There are three institutions...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for indulging me on this. BUSINESS FOR WEEK COMMENCING 18TH AUGUST 2025 Hon. Temporary Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to give a Statement on behalf of the House 14th August 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 2 Business...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I have listened to the Member, and I recognise the seriousness of this matter. It is our responsibility, as the government, to protect Kenyans both inside and outside the country. The abduction of a 13th August 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 6 Kenyan in a friendly country is...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. This is the first time in this Parliament that a response to a Request for Statement is sought directly from the Leader of the Majority Party instead of the Committees in charge. That notwithstanding, I must say that the relationship between Kenya and Tanzania is...

We will engage all the Cabinet Secretaries involved, especially the Ministries of East African Affairs and Foreign Affairs. We will coordinate with all the relevant Ministries, including the Ministry of Trade, Industry and Investment, to get an elaborate response. From this question, we may move to policy and ask the...

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. That is what democracy is about, Hon. Dawood: a Constitution which you must abide by. I also had my Bill on the Floor of this House. It went for assent, received a Presidential Memorandum of reservations, and then came back here. Because we...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I want to draw the attention of the House to the time when the current Cabinet Secretary for Defence, Hon. Soipan Tuya, was in the seat where you are seated. We were handling the presidential reservation on the Finance Bill regarding tax on SMS and three other...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Chairlady, before you declare the lack of quorum. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : What is out of order before I make the Statement? Hon. Temporary Chairlady, it is okay and within the rights of the Member to say that. This...

Hon. Speaker, before I lay the Papers, allow me the privilege to welcome learners from a school in my constituency, which is my neighbour 13th August 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 7 at home: St. Dominic Primary School. They are seated in the Public Gallery. I welcome them to follow the...

Hon. Speaker, we can do this. It is a simple matter and Hon. Melly will dispose of it by Tuesday. I will be in touch with him.

Hon. Speaker, while I respect your advice on this, this is a House of rules which everybody in this Chamber must and should abide to. Our Standing Orders are very clear that when you defy a Speaker's ruling or order, there are consequences to it. We learn and precedence is...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I initiated an amendment to the law to include body cams as one of the wearables for police officers. When we are definite about this, it guarantees that the Government will provide for it. The response we got was that it is already covered in law...

I am sorry, Hon. Speaker. I apologise for the delay. Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Orders 30 (3) (b) (Hours of Meeting) , this House resolves to hold a morning sitting on Thursday, 14th August 2025, commencing at 10:00...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Meteorology Bill, (Senate Bill No. 45 of 2023) , and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (The House resumed) IN THE HOUSE [The Temporary Speaker...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Kawaya Vincent Musyoka to second the Motion.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Meteorology Bill, (Senate Bill No.45 of 2023) , be now read a Third Time. I would like to make a few comments. This is a very important piece of legislation which will help to anchor the Meteorological Department into law. It...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I wish to welcome the students. I do not know when my school will be mentioned in such glowing terms. I hope one day it will. Which school? St. George’s High School. I have seen the growing interest of students in this Chamber. It also shows...

Hon. Speaker, I want to inform Hon. Kaguchia. Hon. Kaguchia, you know that appropriation is done in this House. As a very active Member, when the supplementary budget is presented, please, let us hear your voice on the same matter so that we can appropriate money to put up the...

Yes, it was. The Temporary Chairman (Hon. David Ochieng’) : This is your opportunity to move for reporting. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the President’s reservations to the National Land Commission (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I ask the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Lands to second. If I may, I wish to express a few thoughts regarding the Bill. This is a good Bill. The...

I ask the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Lands to second.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, as I mentioned, this is a very important legislation that will give power to the NLC to commence the review of grants that have been halted due to the expiry of the five-year period. We are also granting the NLC the authority to address historical land injustices....

Very well. I also ask your people to listen to you because you are a good representative. The Member for Isiolo South will be re-elected. He is very concerned about his people. The people from the North Eastern region have also suffered historical injustices. It is the people from Northern...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, let me promise you- -- Could you say as early as tomorrow? I may not vouch for tomorrow but before we go on recess, you will have your statement delivered to the House. Order. Hon. Baya Owen, people who are dying cannot sit back and wait for...

I am much obliged, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. On my behalf and that of the leadership, I welcome the students from Tharaka Nithi to the Chamber of the National Assembly, these hallowed grounds and the august House. They are seated in the Public Gallery. Face this side. Hon. Temporary Speaker, Tharaka Nithi reminds...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. What is your point of order, Hon. Owen Baya. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I have high regard for Hon. Caroli Omondi. He is a good legislator who makes good laws and sits in the Chamber. His people made a good choice. However, he...

Thank you for giving me this opportunity to support my friend, Hon. Toroitich. I think this is one of those firsts where I actually stand to 12th August 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 38 support him. You know, he is a very nice Member of Parliament. Even though sometimes he is...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, it is my pleasure to second the Hon. Aden Mohammed in the Computer Misuse and Cybercrime (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 41 of 2024) . I thank Hon. Mohammed Aden for taking his time to bring a Bill to the House of Parliament. Not very many...

Yes, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I have listened to Hon. Ndindi Nyoro, who is an eloquent and good speaker. There is something called relevance in debate. This Bill is not about cybercrime and computers. It speaks to certain important fundamentals of a nation.

I have the right to stand on a point of order.

I have a point of order to the Temporary Speaker. I have the right.

I am not faulting the Member. So, what is your point of order? You mentioned Hon. Ndindi Nyoro. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I want to make some clarification on the Bill not on the contribution of the Member. That is okay. Proceed but limit yourself to the content of the Bill....

Hon. Speaker, Hon. Osoro is holding a kamukunji that is blocking me. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to give the following Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee, which met on Tuesday, 5th August 2025, to prioritise business for consideration during...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am now speaking as the Member for Kilifi North Constituency. It is time we allow competition in the energy sector. The reason we lack power is the monopoly enjoyed by the Kenya Power Company. They behave the way they do and issue such replies to this...

I will advise the Chairman, Hon. Shinali, so that we have the Statement the first week after recess. We also have next week. You have the whole of next week and Tuesday. I request that the matter be put for Tuesday next week so that she gets a Statement for...

Hon. Tongoyo is the Chairman. He is a very diligent Member. There must be a good reason he is not here. I plead with you to allow us up to Tuesday next week to bring the Statement. I will talk to Hon. Tongoyo myself to get this Response done. Thank...

I am much obliged, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I will also direct that it be put in next week. You are directed. Kindly execute. I am so directed. We will execute. My staff, please, you are hearing this direction wherever you are. Please make sure it is part of what we...

I will discharge my duties by calling Hon. Ken Chonga and talking to him so that he brings a Statement next week. I will also remind Hon. Tongoyo. We should not be discussing issues of IDPs in this time and age. The IDP phenomenon came in 2007. Why should Kenyans...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The CDFCs should be in place to ensure the implementation of the approved projects and the disbursement of funds. I also note with pleasure that, for the first time, we have received all the money that is owed to the CDFCs, including the balance from...

I want to join and congratulate Hon. King’ara for his work around this issue of public land. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I want to inform you that Hon. King’ara and I served together in the Departmental Committee on Lands in the 12th Parliament. In that Committee, I saw his diligence, ability...

Hon. Speaker, Hon. Osoro is holding a kamukunji that is blocking me. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to give the following Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee, which met on Tuesday, 5th August 2025, to prioritise business for consideration during...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am now speaking as the Member for Kilifi North Constituency. It is time we allow competition in the energy sector. The reason we lack power is the monopoly enjoyed by the Kenya Power Company. They behave the way they do and issue such replies to this...

I will advise the Chairman, Hon. Shinali, so that we have the Statement the first week after recess. We also have next week. You have the whole of next week and Tuesday. I request that the matter be put for Tuesday next week so that she gets a Statement for...

Hon. Tongoyo is the Chairman. He is a very diligent Member. There must be a good reason he is not here. I plead with you to allow us up to Tuesday next week to bring the Statement. I will talk to Hon. Tongoyo myself to get this Response done. Thank...

I am much obliged, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I will also direct that it be put in next week. You are directed. Kindly execute. I am so directed. We will execute. My staff, please, you are hearing this direction wherever you are. Please make sure it is part of what we...

I will discharge my duties by calling Hon. Ken Chonga and talking to him so that he brings a Statement next week. I will also remind Hon. Tongoyo. We should not be discussing issues of IDPs in this time and age. The IDP phenomenon came in 2007. Why should Kenyans...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The CDFCs should be in place to ensure the implementation of the approved projects and the disbursement of funds. I also note with pleasure that, for the first time, we have received all the money that is owed to the CDFCs, including the balance from...

I want to join and congratulate Hon. King’ara for his work around this issue of public land. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I want to inform you that Hon. King’ara and I served together in the Departmental Committee on Lands in the 12th Parliament. In that Committee, I saw his diligence, ability...