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Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, this man has been chased from the bedroom. He should leave me alone because I still hold my bedroom. Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the House today:

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I rise to support this Bill, which has come at the right time. The objective of this Bill is to raise the amount of pension due to former Members of Parliament who served between 1st of July 1984...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) What is out of order? We are not in the bedroom. We are in the august House. The Temporary Deputy Speaker (Hon. Christopher Omulele) : The Member for Kisumu, what is out of order?

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, the richness is in the heart. I said I am preparing myself. So, you should also go to Kisumu, get part of the lake and rear fish for your retirement. As for me, I will go back to Garissa and...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the House: Six Reports, one Bill and one Resolution adopted by the East African Legislative Assembly (EALA) at its 1st Meeting of the 3rd Session of the 4th Assembly held in...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, the Bill by Hon. Kamket on Equalisation Fund is ready and we will bring it next week. I will also pass the message to Hon. Ichung’wah because there are people who are in Kibra and they have a stake there. Hon. Speaker,...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) I think NGAAF is under Hon. Wario. That is the Committee that oversees that Fund. The Chair of the Committee on the National Government Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF) is here. The BAC just appropriates. So, Hon. Wario should tell us when the NGAAF will...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) We will tell the Chair to read the Statement on Tuesday. The last request for a Statement is by Hon. (Maj) (Rtd.) Bashir Abdullaih, Member for Mandera North. REQUEST FOR STATEMENT ON NATIONAL POPULATION AND HOUSING RESULTS OF 2019 CENSUS

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, the Chair for Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, Hon. Limo was around. I am sure he is not in Kibra. He will also give the Statement maybe next week Thursday. This is a straightforward Statement.

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to give a Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee (HBC) following its meeting held on Tuesday, 5th November 2019 and the withdrawal of the Motion on the...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, even the owner of the re- committal is not in the House. Hon. Osotsi is in Kibra. It is good that it has suffered that fate. The owner is not here. Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Data Protection Bill...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order No.28 (4) (Calendar of the Assembly) and Standing Order No.30 (3) (Hours of meeting) , this House resolves to- November 6, 2019 NATIONAL...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, I agree with you. This was, indeed, decided on by the House Business Committee. However, since last night, I have been hearing some very strange things regarding this group of Parliamentarians; that they want to come and discuss sex education, gayism and...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) On a point of order, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, having listened to the House, I want to indulge you. The proceedings of the House - The HANSARD - are serious. If you want to hear what the late Tom Mboya, the late Jomo Kenyatta, the late Oginga Odinga and many other...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) I want to support Hon. Shamalla. She is trying to expand the same principles which are in Section 25. So, it is not harmful. She is not adding anything. She is just helping and I am sure if the Chair is given a chance…...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Millie is a good friend of mine. She came with the amendments very late. So, there are some which we have agreed with the Chair, and she will drop some. I hope she will not undercut me, but only moves with my permission...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) I agree with the Chair. Even the CEO of the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC) is competitively recruited and approved by the House. This is a very important office and we are the people’s representative. Therefore, it should be given some independence. The Chair...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 8 of the Bill be amended by inserting the following new sub-clause immediately after sub-clause (1) — (1A) The Office of the Data Commissioner may, in the performance of its functions collaborate with the...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) I really want to tell Hon. Osotsi to read my amendment. Let me read it. It says: “The Office of the Data Commissioner may, in the performance of its functions collaborate with the national security organs.” The word used is “may” and not “shall”....

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady, I want to ask Hon. Millie Odhiambo to drop that amendment because this is already provided for in the Constitution. We are overlegislating. Every appointment that we do in this country must have regional and gender balance and people with...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady, this is the problem with Kenyans. When you give them a half of an acre, they will extend it to an acre. The competitiveness of the people who will be appointed is in the Bill. So, what are we are...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady, I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 20 and substituting therefore the following new clause— Duration of the registration certificate

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) (Off-record)

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) We had already done it. You are late, we have finished.

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady, physical disability is possible. You know, you have only given us the example of Hon. Dennitah Ghati. What if you do not have your hands, how will you sign? A good example that I can give is when you lose...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 52 of the Bill be amended by inserting the following new sub-clause immediately after sub-clause (2) —

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, for the Media Council, publishing associations and the art, you remember there is copyright infringement. Through regulations we are going to do it. That he works through the Media Council so that they do their specific code. He talks to...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 53 of the Bill be amended by inserting the following new sub-clause immediately after sub-clause (3) — November 6, 2019 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 48 Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP)A certified version of this...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I beg to move: November 6, 2019 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 49 Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP)A certified version of this ReportTHAT, Clause 63 of the Bill be amended by-

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) I can see a young lady in the Speaker’s Gallery taking photos of this Chamber. For some time I have been watching her and this is against the proceedings of the House. So, order the Serjeant-At-Arms to seize her phone and retrieve the photos....

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Data Protection Bill (National Assembly Bill No.44 of 2019) and its approval thereof with amendments. November 6, 2019 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 54 Hon. Aden...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said Report. I request Hon. Kisang, the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Communication, Information and Innovation, to second the Motion for agreement with the Report...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. Hon. Osotsi must know that there are ranking Members in this House. What he intends to do is a re- committal. That Clause has been passed, and if you want to do a re-committal, there is nothing of Hon. Shamalla...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, you need to protect me from Hon. Ichung’wah. He still thinks he is in Kibra where he has been sleeping. Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the House:

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, I also watched the CJ and the President of the Supreme Court. In his 42 minutes speech, he talked about many things including November 5, 2019 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 7 Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP)A certified version of this Report myself....

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) No! No! Just saying he is the Chairman is not enough. Is it only the CJ who is being frustrated? I hope many of the questions he spoke about – the frustrations – I totally agree with him. The CJ is the President of...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I beg to move: THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 45 and substituting therefor the following new clause- Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, the purpose of this capping was to address the wide...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) The Ayes have it! Nipatie. Wachana naye Bwana. Enda kwa the next one. Go to the next one. We are going to the next amendment. Hii nimeshinda. Kwendeni! Put the Question. (Question, that the words to be left out be left out, put and...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the House agrees with the Committee in the said Report.

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) I request Hon. Limo to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Put the Question.

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, new Members should know that when the Speaker is speaking, they should remain seated and keep quiet. New Members, please read the Standing Orders. I mean the first timers. October 30, 2019 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 12 Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP)A...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, from where I sit and the powers given to this House which is the National Assembly, this is not a serious matter. We cannot discuss memos. This House has the final powers to budget and appropriate. It appropriated resources for the three...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) … (Off-record)

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, let this be my last time to speak in English this afternoon. After the next Order, you better prepare if you do not know Kiswahili. I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: PROCEDURAL MOTION ALTERATION OF THE CALENDAR OF THE ASSEMBLY

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the House: 2019 Budget Review and Outlook Paper for the Financial Year 2020/21 and Medium- Term Budget from the National Treasury and Planning. The Statutory Six Months Preferences and Reservation Report...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, the Deputy Speaker and Chair of the Liaison Committee is tabling the new version of the Standing Orders which is in Kiswahili. He should say it in Kiswahili, when he is tabling and when he is giving notice. You cannot table Kiswahili...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, you remember this matter was very hot last Thursday before we went on recess. The bone of contention - and Hon. Kaluma cannot run away from it and he said he would provide evidence - was that he said he was the...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP)(Bill deferred)Hon. Speaker, with your permission, I want to step down this Bill because it has some issues with the Government. I will wait for the National Treasury to sort out the issues.

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, the Chair of the Committee on Delegated Legislation told me, through the House Business Committee (HBC) , that she is committed. She wants to be slotted in tomorrow in the afternoon, so that she can deal with the two Motions.

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, I have no brief from that Committee. I do not see anybody from that Committee. Hon. Katoo is one of the active Chairs and he must be committed somewhere. So, in the HBC tonight, we will re-schedule the Motion to tomorrow. I...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Data Protection Bill (National Assembly Bill No.44 of 2019) be read a Second Time. I rise to move the Data Protection Bill, 2019, which seeks to give effect to Article 31 (c) and (d) of the...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) He speaks Dholuo language. So, I did not understand what he was telling them. Somebody from Kamiti Maximum Prison may call you. They have access to even your health and financial data, which is confidential. So, this law is very important. Unless we redefine...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. The Temporary Deputy Speaker (Hon. Christopher Omulele) : Hon. Osotsi, hold on. The Leader of the Majority Party, what is out of order? Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Hon. Osotsi...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I really want to thank the Members who contributed immensely to this very important piece of legislation. The principal object of this Bill is to give effect to the right to privacy as provided for in Article 31...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I want to speak first because I want to bring emotions down. We are the leaders of this country and we are supposed to offer solutions. I remember we sat in a meeting with officials from the Ministry of Interior...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, you have read the President’s Memorandum. I think as the Committee discusses it, they need to find a transitional clause on when it will take effect and what happens to the millions of Kenyans who are now paying interest at a certain...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I do not know why people are making a lot of noise! Is it because I have counted the numbers in Tanga Tanga, ODM and Kieleweke?

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the House: The annual report and financial statements of the Kenya Investments Authority for the year ended 30th June, 2018. Report of the Auditor-General on the financial statements of Kenya Airports...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to give the following Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee (HBC) , following its Meeting held on Tuesday, 15th October, 2019. I wish to note that the House is...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Allow me to contribute, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, if you allow me, this is a matter that touches on integrity. Hon. Barasa rose on a point of order asking why it has taken long for his Statement to be ready. If you allow me, I will even take the matter...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, you have given the direction. Unless Hon. Barasa retracts the statement that he is ready to resign if the contrary is proved to be true, then his seat will be declared vacant. The route Hon. Barasa is going is very dangerous. You...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Hon. Katoo has shown the way. I beg to move the following Procedural Motion: THAT, notwithstanding the provisions of Standing Order 42 relating to reading and laying of Messages from the President, and in furtherance to the provisions of Article...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) On a point of order, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to support this Bill from the Constitutional Implementation Oversight Committee (CIOC) . I do not know why both the 10th and 11thParliaments did not actualise this. We are now in the 12th Parliament and have not actualised it....

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) No. From the behavior of Hon. Kamanda, I do not think we can add elders, unless another elder convinces me otherwise. (Laughter)

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) For your information, the party leader of URP then was none other than the current Deputy President. Hon. Millie Odhiambo was also nominated. She did very well and she is now a constituency Member of Parliament. She got that seat courtesy of ODM. Hon....

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, I do not want to go to the minutes because I was the Deputy Party Leader of URP then. I do not want to cite the minutes of how we nominated Sara Korere and many others. I can even table the minutes...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, you know, I will forgive Hon. Junet for anything he says for as long as the Kibra by-election is still on. He cannot be charged in a court of law on anything he says because he is under siege in Kibra. I...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Even boyfriends. But there are no women party leaders. So, I do not think we have boyfriends here. In the Political Parties Act, what do we amend? Under the Act forming the IEBC, we must tackle the section on interpretation. Under IEBC, we must...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) What is your intervention? I am still contributing. Hon. Kioni, you have done well. You have solved the problem I had for many years. I will support this Bill, but we will amend it. As Hon. Junet said, we will have to look for...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the House today, 15th October 2019: Legal Notice No. 9504 of 2019 relating to the Report on Deployment of the Kenya Defence Forces at the Likoni Channel, Mombasa County, in support...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) On a point of order, Hon. Speaker. Is Hon. Mishra properly dressed? One of the newspapers referred to this House as a Pentecostal something. He looks as if he is in a Sikh temple. We need to be very careful. That shawl is not...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, Hon. Sankok has raised a serious matter that the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Labour and Social Welfare, where he is a Member, can call both the Cabinet Secretary for Public Service, Youth and Gender and the Cabinet Secretary for Education...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, Hon. Mbadi was right. If the programme has been moved, the money can be moved. If the programme has not been moved, you cannot move the money. That is where Hon. Mbadi did not get it right. Hon. Speaker, pursuant to the...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Sacco Societies (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 1 of 2018) be now read a Third Time. I request the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Cooperatives, Hon. Kanini Kega to second.

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move that the Sectional Properties Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 23 of 2019) be now read a Third Time. I am sure there are many people wondering what sectional properties are. Those of you who will own or own...

Hon. Aden Duale (Garissa Township, JP) No, this is a very important matter for the country. It is not like last Thursday. The debt ceiling is the fiscal control mechanism that is designed to maintain the fiscal sustainability of any economy. It is, therefore, vital for the maintenance of a...