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The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Ngusya. (Hon. Charles Nguna spoke off record) Hon. Gichimu, go ahead.

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you very much, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I have a different view from that of the membership. It cannot be gainsaid that the NG-CDF is extremely important for the growth of this country. However, we have fallen short as Parliament. Every time we have had...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Sirma, you will have the last bite on this matter. (Loud consultations)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Marakwet West, what is out of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Of course, Hon. Sirma, you must withdraw that remark if you, indeed, made it.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order. Hon. Sirma, did you say the judges must resign for making that judgement? Did you say they must or should?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Go ahead with your submission.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Few thieves or no thieves? Next Order. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON THE CONSOLIDATED FUND SERVICES EXPENDITURES FOR THE FIRST SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES FOR FINANCIAL YEAR 2024/2025 Committee on its consideration of the Consolidated Fund Services for the The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Makali...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Makali Mulu, do you want to come back?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much. Hon. Members, the decision on this Motion is deferred to the next time the matter is listed on the Order Paper. (Putting of the Question deferred) Next Order. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON FUNDS SPENT CONTRARY TO PROVISIONS OF ARTICLE 223...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much, Hon. Mbai. Hon. Members, just like the previous Motion, the decision on this particular Motion will be made the next time the matter is listed on the Order Paper. (Putting of the Question deferred) Next Order. THE COFFEE BILL The...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order! Hon. Mawathe, who gave you the chance to speak? This chance is for Hon. Gichimu, Member for Gichugu. You did not even request for a chance.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order! Hon. Gichimu.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Embakasi South.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Luyai, Member for Saboti. Hon. Oundo, Member for Funyula.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hold on! Is the Member for Gilgil in the House? What about the Member for West Pokot? I suggest you go on with the response to the statement by the Member for West Pokot, Hon. Rael Kasiwai, if you have it. Proceed with it...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Note also, that there is more than one question before your Committee dealing with abductions and disappearances, and not just this one. That is why I think it is important that the Committee takes this matter seriously. Before we go to the...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Raso, I hope you have heard the request for a statement. (Hon. Moses Kirima spoke off the record) Order, Hon. Kirima. 19th September 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 11

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Kirima, what do you want to say on this request for a statement? Give him the microphone.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Member, I cannot see your card here. Hon. Ikiara.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Murugara.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Mulyungi.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You know what to do. You should not do that inside another request for a statement. This request for a statement is directed to the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Affairs. Hon. Raso has already said 19th September 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 12...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order, Hon. Raso. I do not mean to interrupt you. Can you summarise?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Makilap.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. The next Statement to be issued would be by the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) What is out of order, Hon. Keynan?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Raso, this was a commitment that was made yesterday, and you are behaving as if you did not even make it.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Yes, Hon. Keynan.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) They have heard you. Go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Raso, you have listened to the Member for Eldas and, from where I sit, this cannot be handled in the casual manner that the Committee wants to handle it. I would not want you to say anything on this matter, but...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) The same issues are even brought to the next Parliament, and again, we talk. This is because we have not given our Committees "teeth", or even if we have given them "teeth", they are not "biting" with the "teeth" that the Constitution has given them....

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I thank the Committee chaired by Hon. Wanjala, my neighbour at home, for a good Report. The National Assembly, and Parliament as a whole, operates through Bills, resolutions and petitions. To know how effective our role is and...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Jayne Kihara. All of you are on a point of order. You just have to wait. This matter is very simple.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Pukose has said you should have a mask as part of the management of this process.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Proceed.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Proceed. (Loud consultations)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much. I hope you will be provided with a mask. (Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona spoke off the record)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Pukose, what is out of order?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) There is no debate about what you said. Hon. Mwenje, do you have something to say on this matter?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Okay. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Just a minute. (Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona stood up in her place) Whip of the Minority Party, Hon. Millie, this is not how it is done. Take your seat. You will learn that once you speak, you have to allow others to have their say....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Mayaka.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) However, I did not see you slide. Let us have Hon. Naomi Waqo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Naomi Waqo will be listened to like others.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Makali Mulu.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I will give a chance to two more, one minute each. Member for Busia.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) He did not talk about your legs. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. The Member of Endebess.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Rindikiri.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Murugara.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Wamaua.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Nambale, you have one minute.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Kabuchai.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. The Member for Eldas. I have given chance to five Members from this side. You can be sure this side will also get five. Hold your horses. You have one minute each.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member of Bumula.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Major Bashir.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Members, I think Hon. Millie needed recognition as the Whip of the Minority party. We have done enough of that. Is that not so? We needed to congratulate Hon Millie and we have done that. The matter should rest there. As...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Passaris, do you now have the notice of motion or we need to give you more time?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Okay. Whip of the Minority Party, you are recognised and welcomed to the House this afternoon. Go ahead. (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order. Hon. Millie. You are quite okay, but can we finish because we are in the middle of Order No. 6? Nothing is out of order in Order No. 6. So, let us deal with that and then we come to you. (Laughter) COMPREHENSIVE...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Before I listen to Hon. Millie, I would like to re-organise the Order Paper, so that we consider Order No. 8 and 9, and then we come back and listen to Hon. Millie. Then, we will go back to Order No. 7....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Are there timelines?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. The Member for North Horr, is that okay with you?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. I think that is okay. Member for Garsen. 15th August 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 16 INDEFINITE CLOSURE OF MALKA-HALAKU CORRIDOR

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. The next Statement is from the Member for Fafi, Hon. Yakub. INSECURITY IN FAFI CONSTITUENCY

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you, Hon. Member. By now, you know the drill. All the things that you wanted should have been captured in your request for a statement. There are no speeches after you have issued your request for a statement. Hon. Dido Raso, today is...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Yakub, the Hon. Member has told you what they are going to do. At that time, when they give their answer, you will tell them whether it is ‘desktop or laptop’ and then you deal with it at that level.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Raso, you can carry the laptops to the ground so that the answers you give are not just laptop answers but real answers from the ground.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Before I allow the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock to respond, the Member for Kakamega has a related question. I will allow her to proceed. You do not have to go through your question the way he has done. You...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. The Member for Kitui South is guided to bring a statement on that matter, if she wants it handled the way she proposes. This matter for now will go to the relevant committee, which is the Committee on Tourism and 15th August...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. The Member carrying a hand up, do you have a card? Go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you so much. The Member for Garsen, this is the last bite on this.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Because of the urgency of the matter, Hon. Khamis, please communicate to your Chairman that the Hon. Member for Garsen be invited to your Committee and this matter be placed before it next week when it is sitting. I think that should be able...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Khamis.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) What would you rather the Committee does?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Garsen, I think that is reasonable. 15th August 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 17

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. That is quite a long one. The Chairperson of the Committee on Tourism and Wildlife? Any Member from that Committee?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Raso.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon Members, because of the number of requests for statements today, we will not allow Members to comment on the requests. The next Member who has a request is the Member for North Horr, Hon. Adhe Wario. Sorry. Hon. Raso, before we...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Njuguna, is that okay with you.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. So, two weeks after we resume from recess. Hon. Member for North Horr. TRAGIC ATTACK ON CIVILIANS ALONG THE KENYA-ETHIOPIA BORDER IN MARSABIT COUNTY

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) I notice that Members are still streaming in. There is no quorum. Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Bell for five minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Members, I can now confirm that we now quorate to transact business. Hon. Members who are on their...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. The Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Trade, Industry and Co-operatives, Hon. Gakuya. The Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security. Hon. Raso is here.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) The Chairperson of the Diaspora and Migrant Workers Committee.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you, Hon. Haika. That marks the end of that Order. Do we have a Member who has been left out? (Hon. Joseph Gitari spoke off the record) What is it, Hon. Gitari?

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Gitari, approach the Clerk-at- the-Table. (Hon. Joseph Gitari approached the Clerks-at-the-Table) Hon. Gichimu, you had something to say.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Just inform your Chairperson that his attendance in the House is key. He will be allowed to lay the papers the next time the House sits. Hon. Gitari, you can take the next seat and lay the Paper. Hon. Gitari will lay the Paper...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Next Order. NOTICES OF MOTIONS The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) In this Order, we have three Members who have notices of motions. Member for Nairobi City County, are you ready? (Hon. Mark Mwenje consulted with Hon. Esther Passaris) Hon. Mwenje, allow...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Next Order. 14th August 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 13 COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) left the Chair] IN THE COMMITTEE [The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) in the Chair] THE COTTON INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT BILL

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you, Chair of the Departmental Committee on Sports and Culture. Any Member of that Committee? Hon. Deputy Leader of the Majority Party, this chance goes to you.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Next Order. THE COUNTY GOVERNMENTS ADDITIONAL ALLOCATIONS BILL The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, the debate on this Bill is ongoing and I need to know from the Members who have put their cards here whether they want to contribute to this....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, I think it is reasonable for the House to consider the request. I will, therefore, put the Question. 14th August 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 12 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)(Question, that the Mover be now called upon to reply, put and...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. (Dr) Pukose.

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) I know this is not a small matter and I would wish that the Chairman and his Committee take their time to deal with this matter conclusively. Thank you.

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for the opportunity. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (c) , I wish to request for a statement from the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Affairs, regarding the ongoing abductions and...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I followed the proceedings of this vetting and I can tell you, because you do not watch yourself, that your Committee enjoyed vetting these two ladies, compared to what we saw the other week, because they were graceful. They...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) If there is anybody who has stabilised the Ministry in terms of turmoil, it is him. We saw Dr. Patrick Amoth going out during strikes - not just recently but over the years - and speaking to his colleagues in the profession with grace and...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to wholeheartedly support this particular nomination. If you are looking for competence, erudition, integrity, patience, comportment and composure, that gentleman - that doctor - has shown that you can serve in any capacity with dignity and without making...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I have just been looking at the latest amendments, that is, Clauses 26, 27 and 28 vis-à-vis the… (Hon. David Ochieng’ spoke while seated) The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : Hon. Ochieng’, please be up standing. Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya,...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) I oppose this amendment. I imagine that the Chairman would say that the CEO should have experience in the cotton industry, and not necessarily a master's degree. This industry has been facing many challenges. Most people in this area have been learning and amassing experience....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Nabii.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Mover. 31st July 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 61

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, for obvious reasons, I defer putting the Question on this matter until the next time it is slotted in the Order Paper. (Putting of the Question deferred) CONSIDERATION OF REPORT ON THE SUGAR BILL The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) We, therefore,...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Mover.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, as you are aware, we have considered three Bills. We will start with the reporting of the first one we did. I therefore call upon the Chairperson to move reporting. CONSIDERATION OF REPORT ON THE PENSIONS (AMENDMENT) BILL

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MGD) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I want to build on what Hon. Oundo has said. This amendment will be good, if the Chairperson moves a further amendment and removes the word “tax”. I plead with him to do it. It opens the whole thing up to the...

Hon. David Ochieng (Ugenya, MDG) On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai) : What is out of order, Hon. Ochieng? Hon. David Ochieng (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I am just wondering whether at this stage we can have that. This is...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, the primary reason for this Bill is to revive the failed cotton industry. Our history as a country has shown that every time we introduce a levy, the body that we are creating here today will be looking forward to raising money,...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Now that they are going to be working on an amendment they are agreeing on, I am just trying to agree with Hon. Oundo. As you do that, please, put a mandatory requirement for ADR Before they go to any tribunal, there is a level...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I have heard Hon. Nabii and Hon. (Dr) Oundo. You have already given a license, there is a farmer or a person running a ginnery and going on with what he is supposed to do. We must give discretion for the person...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Mover, Hon. Emaase.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) The next Bill that was considered this morning is the Cotton Industry Development Bill. CONSIDERATION OF REPORT ON THE COTTON INDUSTRY BILL The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Temporary Chairlady.

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the Supplementary Appropriation (No. 2) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 39 of 2024) and approved the same with amendments.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, the time being 1.09

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I want to ask Hon. Members to forgive the Senate for they do not know what they are doing. There are people who just keep yapping everyday but they do not know how money is made and how it is allocated. I...

Hon. David Ochieng’ (Ugenya, MDG) Please, let us allow them to have their monies. Let them do their job. That is my plea to my fellow Hon. Members. Let us not get into tuff wars. They say that when they go low, we go high. Let them be. (Loud consultations)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. The Member for Kitui West, do you want to speak on this Bill? Edith Nyenze (Kitui West, WDM) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. From the outset, I support this Bill which is important, especially for the unemployed graduates. We have very...

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Gonzi Rai go ahead. Sorry. Just take your seat for a moment. The Question by the Member for Tiaty, will go to the 24th July 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 2 The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’)Departmental Committee on Education and Research. I do...

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) This Question is directed to TSC not the Principal Secretary (PS) .

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Okay. Hon. Makali.

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Gonzi Rai. REQUEST FOR STATEMENT STATUS OF IMPLEMENTATION OF MWACHE DAM PROJECT

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Thank you. The request for Statement will go to the Departmental Committee on Blue Economy, Water and Irrigation. I saw Hon. Kangogo sometime earlier. Hon. Dorothy are you a Member of that Committee?

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Thank you. (Hon. Gonzi Rai spoke off the record) Hon. Gonzi Rai, you just…

The Temporary Speaker (David Ochieng’) Hon. Dorothy inform Hon. Kangogo on the urgency of this matter. I am sure Hon. Gonzi Rai can engage him as he waits for formal engagement at the Committee level.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Chepkonga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Oundo. Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo (Funyula ODM) . Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker for giving me this opportunity to comment. In essence, I do not oppose the Motion, but obviously, like every Kenyan will ask: What is the hurry? The Bill is already...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Likoni.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Sotik, do you want to contribute to the debate on this Bill? You are next in line. 24th July 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 8 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’)(Technical hitch) Use the microphone next to your seat.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Members, the time allotted for this Bill has lapsed. I now call upon the Mover to reply.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Wanyonyi.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Oluoch.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Lesuuda.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, let us proceed to the next order. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON THE FIRST SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES FOR THE FINANCIAL YEAR 2024/2025

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Allow the Chairperson three more minutes to conclude.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Well said, Chairperson. Hon. Mary Emaase.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you, Hon. Members. Order. The first person to bite the cherry on this would be the Member for Aldai. What is your point of order? This is your chance to contribute.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Is it the mood of the House that we allow Members' contributions to be three minutes? (Loud consultations)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng') Well done. The Member for Khwisero.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Alego Usonga.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Member for Maragwa.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Duly noted. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) We have the Member for Tiaty, Hon. William Kamket. ORDINARY QUESTION STATUS OF RECRUITMENT OF PRINCIPALS AND DEPUTY PRINCIPALS IN ARID AND SEMI-ARID AREAS

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Next Order. 12th June 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 1 QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, we have request for statements from two Members in the Order Paper. I will start with the Member for Bobasi, if he...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Proceed. PREPAREDNESS OF SCHOOLS IN ISIOLO COUNTY AFTER THE RECENT HEAVY RAINS

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Malulu, this falls under your docket. 12th June 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 2

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) When you invite the Cabinet Secretary (CS) , ensure that the Member is duly informed so that she is present during the CS’s attendance, and this should not take more than two weeks.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon David Ochieng’) Hon. Member for Bobasi, I hope you are now ready. RECONSTRUCTION OF A COLLAPSED BRIDGE IN NYAMACHE TOWN IN BOBASI CONSTITUENCY

The Temporary Speaker (Hon David Ochieng’)Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure, Hon. Komingoi.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon David Ochieng’) Have you heard that? He has said within two weeks, the Committee would have gotten back to you. Hon. Gisairo.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Komingoi, the Members’ concern, apart from the Member for Bobasi, is the 22 per cent of money already available and allocated to KeRRA. That is the Members' concern. When is it going to the ground? Two weeks is too long.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. We will not engage in debate on that. The answer he has given is satisfactory to me. Hon. Komingoi, you can see what is happening. You need to take charge of this matter and have it dealt with as soon as possible....

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Next Order. THE SALARIES AND REMUNERATION COMMISSION (AMENDMENT) BILL THE PUBLIC SERVICE INTERNSHIP BILL 12th June 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 5 The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, the debate on this Bill started on the 24th April. Hon. Naisula Lesuuda...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Order. Hon. Lesuuda will be heard in silence.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Members, I request the Whip of the Majority Party to help us lower the tone of consultations so that we can listen to Hon. Lesuuda. (Hon. Silvanus Osoro spoke off the record) Well done.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Nguna.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. Hon. Kipyegon.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Karemba, just sit down. Before you second, Hon. Lesuuda has said: “Make a mark at the place you get a chance for internship.” I want to use that statement to welcome students from the United States International University-Africa (USIU-Africa) from Roysambu, who are...

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Komingoi, today is 12th June

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) You were too young to have seen him. Do not throw those stones. Go ahead.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Thank you. (Question proposed) The first Member to have a bite at that cherry is the Hon. Member for Westlands.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Member for Kitui South.

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Hon. Baya, I hate to hold you a bit because this cannot be another Kenyatta University (KU) affair. Just commit that you will not talk about KU. Please do not talk about KU. Go ahead. 12th June 2024 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 14 (Laughter)

The Temporary Speaker (Hon. David Ochieng’) Very well said. But let us give them maternity leave if they become pregnant. Let us not deny them that. (Laughter)