Sifuna Edwin Watenya

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, correct me if I am wrong, but the High Court found that the position of CASs was unconstitutional. We are not going to substitute the people responsible for the Ministries for unconstitutional officeholders. In fact, if you brought those CASs here, I would not partake...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, let me assure Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale I am not in competition for anything with Musalia Mudavadi. I do not see myself competing with him for anything. I am just saying that the Communication from the Speaker came that he has travelled to the Conference of...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have made this appeal to the Speaker and Members of the Speaker’s Panel before. These Standing Orders protect us from frivolous points of order. I have not seen Standing Order No.121 (b) being effected by Members of the Speaker’s Panel because every single...

Sen. Sifuna That is not the point.

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, you have misunderstood me. Under Standing Order No.121, there needs to be a time when a ruling is made when someone repeatedly makes false points of orders. After you have determined that this point of order is frivolous and useless, what is the action...

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Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I believe that all of us are born with the ability to tell right from wrong. The Statement from Sen. Cherarkey allows me to say that I have absolute faith in every Member of this House. It will take time, but you...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, there is a terrible situation unfolding at the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport (JKIA) in Nairobi, where passengers are dropped off almost 100 metres from the terminals in the rain. I would like the CS to explain to me the rationale of dropping passengers all...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, just like Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, I believe with great respect that the Cabinet Secretary (CS) misunderstood the question that I asked and he answered the wrong question. The question I was asking is, if you look at the design of the terminal of Jomo...

Sen. SifunaMr. Cabinet Secretary, in the run-up to the elections in 2017, the then Deputy President made a certain pronouncement on the status of the construction of nine stadia. I know you have the list that includes Kamariny, the one in Wote, Moyale, Mombasa and Kisumu.Recently, the country was awarded...

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I would like to report to this House that we have visited all the nine stadia and assessed what needs to be done. I assure this House that completion of these nine stadia is a top priority for the Ministry and for this administration. So, our Africa Cup of Nations...

Thank you, Hon. Cabinet Secretary (CS) . The next two Questions will be asked by Sen. Thang’wa on this side and Sen. Olekina on the other side.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I would like the Cabinet Secretary to elaborate the Talanta Hela Inter-County Cup. We have World Cup where all over the world, teams meet to get to know which one is the best. We have the Africa Cup of Nations where all African countries...

Sen. Thang'wa, please let us stick to one question.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, you had said two questions.

Yes, one question from you and another question from Sen. Olekina.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this is going to be quick. I seek your indulgence. Kirigiti Stadium in Kiambu County is complete, but it is not open to public. It is only used by the Governor to holds public events. When are you going to hand it over and open it...

Thank you. Sen. Olekina, please proceed and be brief.

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Whereas I support the general idea of dealing with the problem of cattle rustling, my brother, the Senator for Nandi County will November 21, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 14 Sen. Sifunahave to do a bit more to convince me whether we are not replicating...

Sen. Sifuna On a point of Order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Sifuna On a point of Order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, in all fairness, the very minimum you can do is allow the Senator to prepare that material. Allow him even five minutes. There is no prejudice that will be suffered. Secondly---

Sen. Sifuna I have not completed my point of order. If he is proceeding with the notice---

Sen. Sifuna Do not talk to me, bwana. Talk to the Speaker. (Laughter)

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) , to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Roads, Transportation and Housing regarding construction and maintenance works for airports in Kenya, specifically, the Jomo Kenyatta and Kisumu international airports, which have experienced roof...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for that guidance. Pursuant to Standing Order No.103, as Sen. Osotsi had referred the House to, the matter that is coming before the House falls under the category of sub judice, matters that cannot be discussed, particularly under Standing Order No.103 (3) (c)...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is a hill that I am determined to die on. My conviction is right and my conscience is clear. I refuse to withdraw or apologise for any of those sentiments because they are the truth. (Applause)

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. (Sen. Sifuna walked out of the Chamber) (Loud consultations)

Sen. Sifuna On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. November 15, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 7

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, I wanted to request your indulgence that at this Order on Papers Laid, since yesterday I was required to table some papers regarding the debate, can I do it at this particular juncture?

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. During the debate yesterday, I made certain assertions on the Floor of the House and requested that you allow me time to table evidence to support the assertions. There were three matters that I was required to substantiate. I am going to substantiate...

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. When you peruse, I want you to note page 27, where the CBK has extracts of statement of comprehensive income for commercial banks. I have highlighted for you the loan portfolio vis-a-vis the non- performing loans and the bad loans. You will see...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, in fact, indeed, that is my point. This is the free fertilizer that we were told has now been subsidized. The point I was making is that you cannot subsidize something you got for free. I have attached photographs and news items of the Cabinet...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, under Standing Order No.105 on responsibility for statements, I want the nominated Senator, Sen. Okenyuri, to demonstrate to this House a reduction in the prices of unga to the levels she is claiming.

Sen. Sifuna That is exactly what I am on about.

Sen. Sifuna But she is not the President.

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I join the House and the Senator for Kakamega County to pass my condolences to the family and friends of Hon. Godliver Omondi. As you have rightly put it, Hon. Omondi was nominated to this House by ODM. It gave her the platform...

Sen. Sifuna Sen. Sifuna, I thought the good Senator is admitting that for the first time, he is going through a rough patch. (Laughter)

Sen. Sifuna, I thought the good Senator is admitting that for the first time, he is going through a rough patch.

Sen. Sifuna Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, indeed, the previous Government was formed by a political party called Jubilee, which did two terms. I do understand that in the second term, the Jubilee Government had a “handshake” with the party leader of Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) . However, that does not qualify...

Sen. Sifunawould not be able to manage to keep quiet. I would have been strongly pushed to say something. I would have, therefore, run afoul of the rules of this House.Although the Speaker of the Senate might be lenient because he knows me, I was not very sure about the...

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

What is your point of order, Sen. Mungatana?

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I know that Sen. Sifuna can be very passionate, but is the use of the words “open lies” referring to the speech by His Excellency the President parliamentary? If not, could he withdraw and restrict himself to parliamentary language?

Sen. Sifuna, you can still express yourself without necessarily using such words that may not be parliamentary. I know you understand exactly what I am saying. Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, replace every time I have used the words “open lies” with “untruths” or “misleading” or what other synonym is...

Not factual. Sen. Sifunaall. What I expected the Head of State to do was to tell us that ever since those pronouncements were made, he has taken certain steps to rein in members of his administration who might not understand what Article 10 speaks about when it speaks on inclusivity...

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Sen. Sifuna On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. November 14, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 38

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Sen. Sifuna Next, he told us--- I am on the Speech. These are the contents of the President’s Speech. I am not making up anything.

What is your point of order, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale?

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I hate to interrupt the Senator for Nairobi City. The 100,000 CHPs were launched on Mashujaa Day.

Are you on a point of information or a point of order?

Mr. Speaker, Sir, is he in order to mislead the House, without giving us evidence to support his claim, that we did not recruit 100, 000 CHPs? We did.

Sen. Sifuna, is your assertion factual? Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, I represent a county.

Sen. Sifuna, if it is factual, let it form part of those factual claims that you will substantiate tomorrow. Sen. Sifuna I will substantiate whatever is required for me to substantiate because the truth is the only weapon we have against the lies that are there in the world. Let...

Sen. Sifuna, are you saying it is not working or it was not provided? Sen. SifunaSecondly, the Central Bank of Kenya (CBK) data shows that the default rate of the loans borrowed under this Hustler Fund is higher than the ones of the Commercial Banks. November 14, 2023 SENATE DEBATES...

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Sen. Sifuna Out of the Kshs10.2 billion that is outstanding---

What is your point of order, Sen. Veronica Maina?

Is the Senator for Nairobi City, Sen. Sifuna, in order to indicate that the default rate is as he is reading? Should he not issue substantiated reports? These are based on facts and we are allowing too many things to pass without demanding for accuracy of the information that is...

Sen. Sifuna, on the Wi-Fi, you might not be able to substantiate right away. Are you able to substantiate on the default on loan repayment? Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, you can give me some credit as the person who represents the traders in these markets. I am in constant...

Sen. Sifuna Sen. Sifuna, there is a point of order that has been raised and I am proceeding to make a ruling on it. This is my ruling on the point of order raised by Sen. Veronica Maina. Just take your seat. (Sen. Sifuna resumed his seat) Firstly, you have...

Sen. Sifuna, there is a point of order that has been raised and I am proceeding to make a ruling on it. This is my ruling on the point of order raised by Sen. Veronica Maina. Just take your seat. (Sen. Sifuna resumed his seat) Firstly, you have been called...

Sen. Sifuna, I have ruled. Sen. Sifuna Yes, Mr. Speaker, Sir. On the question of the default rates, these are figures from the Central Bank of Kenya (CBK) . (Several Senators spoke off record) Mr. Speaker, Sir, can I be allowed to proceed? I am the most interrupted Senator in...

Allow the Senator to substantiate. Order! Order, honourable Senators. You have raised a point of order, let the Senator substantiate. Thereafter, you will rise on your points of order. Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The question of the default rate is a question of mathematics and your capacity...

That is exactly what Sen. Veronica Maina was asking. So, proceed. Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, that is simple for me to do. Let me conclude.

What is your point of order, Sen. Kinyua?

Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Senator for Nairobi City cannot assume or pretend that he monopolizes Muthurwa Market. The President of the Republic of Kenya, William Samoei Arap Ruto, represents those people. They voted for him the way they voted for the Senator. He cannot every time he stands here to...

What is your point of order?

The point of order is under Standing Order No.105. The Senator is misleading this House.

Sen. Sifuna, in reference to the people of Nairobi, you have to know that they voted for six leaders. All those six leaders represent the people of Nairobi, including His Excellency the President. Kindly proceed. Sen. Sifunapretending to do. However, the truth of the matter is that these people communicate...

Sen. Sifuna, you need to start using parliamentary language. Sen. Sifuna What is unparliamentary, Mr. Speaker, Sir?

When you say the President was pretending--- Sen. Sifuna That was obviously a staged call. Everyone could see in the video that it was a staged call and we should call it for what it is.

Sen. Sifuna, I am guiding you. If you proceed in that manner, you know exactly what will befall you. Proceed. Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, I will finalize by addressing the question of some of the reasons the President gave for the tribulations Kenyans are going through. For the first...

Senator, we took note of those objections. Sen. Ali Roba.

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am happy that we have come full circle because this is something that I have said on many stages that, in fact, Moses Kuria is an incorrigible national shame. (Applause) November 8, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 4 Sen. SifunaAs I said, there is a famous...

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. My question is to the counsel for the County Assembly, my good classmate. I have had to look up the meaning of coercion in the Merriam-Webster Dictionary. It speaks to the use of express or implied threats of violence or reprisal or...

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. To the counsel for the Assembly. There have been repeated references to alleged forgeries. This is specifically with regards to a work ticket whose serial number has appeared severally. I want the Assembly to clarify whether those documents have been subjected to any...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, on my first day in this House, I took an oath to protect this Constitution. I am sure the people of Meru will appreciate because they also know about oaths; the reason why I would insist on defending this document on every occasion. Under Article...

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Sen. Sifunaglaring omissions we noticed was the absence of a Tenant Purchase Scheme (TPS) in the sale agreement between the county government and the developer.Many of the residents of Buxton thought that they were being relocated for a brief moment of time and that once the construction of the development...

Thank you. I want to give two or three Senators an opportunity to make brief comments. Proceed, Sen. Maanzo.

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for giving me an opportunity to comment on this important Petition. On the matter of housing in this country and the future of ensuring that there is enough housing for everybody, there must be a programme in which the people take a loan with...