Sifuna Edwin Watenya

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Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Cabinet Secretary insisted on giving us the names of the contractors. My document states McKinsey but he said Makenzie. I do not know if they are the same.

Sen. Sifuna There are other two Questions from Senator for Kirinyaga County, Sen. (Dr.) Murango. Sen. Orwoba had approached the Chair and informed me that she had been requested to ask the Questions on behalf of the Senator. Proceed to ask the two Questions simultaneously. Question No.006

There are other two Questions from Senator for Kirinyaga County, Sen. (Dr.) Murango. Sen. Orwoba had approached the Chair and informed me that she had been requested to ask the Questions on behalf of the Senator. Proceed to ask the two Questions simultaneously. Question No.006 STAFFING LEVELS AT KIRINYAGA UNIVERSITY...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. ESTABLISHMENT OF NATIONAL POLYTECHNICS/TTIS IN COUNTIES

Sen. Sifuna Thank you very much, The Senator for Nairobi City County. Last but not least, Sen. Maanzo, you may proceed. March 20, 2024 SENATE DEBATES 30 Sen. Sifuna

Thank you very much, The Senator for Nairobi City County. Last but not least, Sen. Maanzo, you may proceed.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have already contributed to this matter and I am waiting on the next. (Sen. Betty Montet spoke off record)

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Sen. Sifuna Sen. Mandago, proceed.

Sen. Sifuna On a point of Order, Madam Temporary Speaker. March 19, 2024 SENATE DEBATES 45 Sen. Sifuna members of the committee. Sen. Eddy Oketch will tell me why they ignored these important submissions from his Institute of Certified Accountants (ICPAC).On Page 21, Paragraph 25(c), (d), and (e), I just...

On a point of Order, Madam Temporary Speaker.

What is your point of order, Sen. Orwoba?

Madam Temporary Speaker, should I respond before you make a decision?

Sen. Sifuna Sen. Sifuna, let me give a ruling with respect to what Sen. Orwoba has raised. I have looked at Standing Order 101, the mode in which Sen. Sifuna has brought out that issue has not, as of yet, discussed any conduct that could be adversarial to the person...

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for the opportunity. I thank Sen. Faki for ably moving the Motion although he was reading contrary to our Standing Orders. I do not want to believe he was reading but cross-referencing while moving. Article 211 of the Constitution is on borrowing by...

Sen. Sifuna The questions are just ‘yes’ or ‘no’ answers. From where I sit, I cannot tell whether it is truthful or not. The judges in this room will be able to determine that.

Sen. Sifuna I have heard you, Sen. Sifuna. (An hon. Member spoke off record) I do not want to open that route. I have ruled that the witness should answer questions directly, as he is asked. Let us not go to the route of more point of orders kindly, hon....

The questions are just ‘yes’ or ‘no’ answers. From where I sit, I cannot tell whether it is truthful or not. The judges in this room will be able to determine that. Sen. Sifuna Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, fortunately for me, I am seated here as a judge. Please, let...

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Sen. Sifuna(Applause) (Laughter)

Sen. Sifuna, you are out of order. Can you withdraw that last point? Sen. SifunaThe Counsel for the Deputy Governor (Mr. Katwa Kigen): Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I trust my 10 minutes starts running from now. (Applause)

Counsel, you have 10 minutes. Let us proceed. March 14, 2024 SENATE DEBATES 58

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Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, with the greatest respect to all the Senior Counsel who have spoken before me, I believe that this is a quasi-judicial proceeding. The Counsel for the County Assembly is very much in order to require that a ruling be made on the preliminary request. The...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, first of all, I join---

Sen. Sifuna It is a separate issue.

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to go on record to support the positions taken by the two Senators. However, since one of the parties has asked us to make a decision on the matter, with your great indulgence, I would like to get some clarification on the...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want further clarification because we are all seated here as judges. I hold the position that these decisions are to be taken by the House. At what point do we input, as the judges, before you render your decision. I hope that it will...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am very well versed with Rule 30.

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am well versed with the Rule. I just want to say-- -

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, you cannot direct me to read.

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am well-versed with the Rule. Let me say what I want to say. (A Member spoke off record)

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, let her read for us to see what it contains. I do not think there is a Rule that requires that I be directed to read.

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

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Sen. Sifuna Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this is a question I want to ask the young gentleman. I realised that all the transactions you were making were done at night. Was there a reason? Why that was the case?

Sen. Sifuna Yes.

Sen. Sifuna Senior Counsel, Mr. Katwa Kigen, respond to those questions by Sen. Sifuna. The Counsel for the Deputy Governor (Mr. Katwa Kigen) : Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, my point is that the HANSARD has been manipulated. It is not an accurate representation of what happened in terms of--- If...

Yes. Sen. Sifuna I am at page 217 of the HANSARD. I want to know if it is true that this is what Mr. Katwa Kigen said. There is a paragraph at the top there, where he says or is reported to have been saying, “Hon. Members, I pray that...

Senior Counsel, Mr. Katwa Kigen, respond to those questions by

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Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, for the record, I am holding brief for Sen. Oketch Gicheru of Migori. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations regarding the use of unnecessary and...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, allow me to begin from the top. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations regarding the use of unnecessary and excessive force by the police during the peaceful procession...

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr Speaker, Sir. Secondly, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Roads, Transportation and Housing on the ownership of Kariokor Estate in Starehe Constituency, Nairobi County. In the Statement, the Committee should - OWNERSHIP OF KARIOKOR...

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Sen. Sifunaaffordable housing. That will be going outside the constitutional mandate of policy that is reserved for national Government, the NSSF as an independent entity that cannot take over functions of county governments.Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I propose that all those bodies listed from 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6...

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Sen. Sifuna No, I am moving the amendment. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Veronica Maina) : Proceed. (Loud consultations) (Loud consultations)

Sen. Sifuna We are proceeding to the fifth Division on all Clauses. Sen. Majority Leader and Sen. Osotsi, proceed and vote.

Sen. Sifuna, what is your intervention? Sen. Sifuna Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, you should ordinarily allow us to make points of order. (Loud consultations) (Loud consultations) Sen. SifunaMr. Temporary Chairperson, I[The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) in the Chair] March 12, 2024 SENATE DEBATES 59 Sen. Sifuna I want a ruling...

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Sen. Sifuna Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, on this side, we equally noted that on the fourth Division, Sen. Faki, the Senator for Mombasa County was not in the House and his vote has been recorded. We need that to be checked as well. (Loud Consultations)

How many people each side? The Temporary Chairperson (

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Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, I was hoping that the Senator for Uasin Gishu, who I think is still the Chairperson of the Committee on Health, would be present in the House to listen to the Statement by Sen. Chute on the completion of Sololo Level 4 Hospital. Similarly, we...

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I had indicated to the Senate Majority Leader, my friend, the Senator for Kericho County, that I intend to withdraw my support for this Motion this afternoon for the following reasons. Indeed, it is a fact----

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, unfortunately, I cannot do that. I wanted to give the reasons.

Sen. Sifuna Okay, allow me to begin with the tail, then come to the head. At the meeting of SBC this Tuesday---

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, unfortunately, I cannot second this Motion.

Sen. Sifuna Thank you.

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Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for giving me this opportunity to support this Bill. I know this has been politicised for many days and months. I remember the time we came in power and were taken through induction. I remember being shown how this affordable housing will process...

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Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity. Allow me to inform Sen. Keroche that you cannot compare Kenya with Europe. When we are talking of---

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Sen. Sifuna What is your point of order, Osotsi?

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Sen. Sifuna Bw. Spika, nilikuwa nimekinoa Kiswahili changu kwa ajili ya ujio wa Waziri Aisha Jumwa ili tuweze kupatana moja kwa moja. Kwa hivyo, utaniruhusu nizungumze Kiswahili hicho ili kisiende bure hata kama hajafika. March 06, 2024 SENATE DEBATES 5 (Laughter)

Sen. Sifuna Bw. Spika, namaliza.

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Sen. Sifuna Bw. Spika, ndio, nachangia huo ukali, tafadhali.

Sen. SifunaDakika moja tu nimalize. March 06, 2024 SENATE DEBATES 6 Sen. SifunaSen. Gloria Orwoba wiki iliyopita alitukemea sana, haswa viongozi wa vyama ambao walishiriki katika Kamati ya Maridhiano ya Kitaifa iliyokuwepo. Aliteta kwamba tuliwacha masuala ya akina mama nyuma. Nilikuwa nataka Bi.Waziri aje hapa adhihirishe kwamba sio kwa kukosa...

Sen. Sifuna Heshima! Asante, Bw. Spika. Walikuwa na heshima kwa Seneti kuandika barua kusema kwamba--- A Hon. Senator: Katesi Sen. Sifuna Ama katesi. Naambiwa unaweza sema katesi. (Laughter)

Sen. Sifuna Niko kwa hoja ya Nidhamu

Sen. Sifuna Asante, Bw. Spika, kwa kuniokoa kutoka kwa mikono ya Seneta wa Meru. Kwa kweli mimi ni mwakilishi pale SBC wa hawa wenzangu hapa. Ni muhimu kwamba yote yanayoendelea pale tuwajuze kwa sababu kama vile umesema wewe mwenyewe, hakuna siri. Kwa hivyo, mimi naomba kuwe na mfumo hata kama...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, if you look at your dashboard, I had already expressed interest in commenting slightly on Sen. Osotsi’s Statement. It will be helpful if the Committee ties all the issues that have been raised. March 06, 2024 SENATE DEBATES 6 Sen. SifunaMaybe Sen. Osotsi knows. The...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have just asked for my notes, wacha nijipange. (Laughter)

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, if you have noticed, I do not speak without my speaking notes, so that I can go systematically.

Sen. Sifuna I am reminded that the Speaker is blind, but please allow other Members to talk---

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for your indulgence. Indeed, my Statement was motivated by an incident of two elderly women paying for their National Health Insurance Fund (NHIF) contributions through this platform. The NHIF were insisting that the payments were not reflecting on their side. The problem then...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, for the record, for the avoidance of doubt and to shame the devil, I did, in fact, attend the University of Nairobi for four years. (Loud consultations)(Laughter)

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, you can clearly see those who went to school properly and those who did not. (Laughter)

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. This is quite a coincidence because, about 20 years ago, I was standing at the Graduation Square at the University of Nairobi receiving my degree as a lawyer. I went back to those grounds for the first time in those 20 years, just...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, when I was reading this report, I was curious to hear from the Commission on Revenue Allocation (CRA) , a constitutional commission that is supposed to make recommendations to this House under Article 216 on the basis of the sharing of revenue between the two...

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