Murungi Kathuri

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CURRENT POSITIONS

A member of the 13th Parliament

COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP

Chairperson of the Liaison committee.
Vice-Chairperson of the Procedure and Rules committee.

PARLIAMENTARY ACTIVITY

Plenary Contribution 26th June 2023

4 contributions in 1 section

Certified Hansard section Monday, 26th June, 2023 - Afternoon Sitting

Sen. Kathuri Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. When we started debating the Motion, you made a ruling that six Senators will speak from both sides. Mr. Speaker, Sir, you know I am not on either side. I really wanted to catch your eye so you can recognise those of us...

Sen. Kathuri

Plenary Contribution 15th June 2023

3 contributions in 1 section

Certified Hansard section Thursday, 15th June, 2023 - Afternoon Sitting

Sen. Kathuri On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Kathuri Mr. Speaker, Sir, you have just read a riot act a few minutes ago, then the good Senator for Kiambu County is giving a lot of stories instead of giving his Statement. I do not know whether you want to know how he travelled all the way from...

Sen. Kathuri Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me an opportunity to also make a comment on the way forward regarding the impeachment of the Siaya Deputy Governor. Devolution needs to be protected. Since Senators have a say on the impeachment of either governor or deputy governor, it is...

Plenary Contribution 14th June 2023

Presiding activity · not counted

Certified Hansard section Wednesday, 14th June, 2023 - Morning Sitting

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Madam Cabinet Secretary, please proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for East African Community, Arid and Semi-Arid Lands and Regional Development (Hon. Miano) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I will take the question by Sen. Thang’wa. In response to the first question, I wish to confirm...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Proceed, Madam Cabinet Secretary. The Cabinet Secretary for East African Community, Arid and Semi-Arid Lands and Regional Development (Hon. Miano) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we are at such a time in this country that we have not had sufficient food, leave alone a reserve....

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Madam Cabinet Secretary, do you have something to add on that? The Cabinet Secretary for East African Community, Arid and Semi-Arid Lands and Regional Development (Hon. Miano) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would request that we have a more comprehensive conversation with the Cabinet...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) This is because you had exhausted your two questions.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) For the Cabinet Secretary for East African Community, Arid and Semi-Arid Lands and Regional Development or a different Cabinet Secretary? Is it a different matter?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Okay

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Madam Cabinet Secretary, you may respond. The Cabinet Secretary for East African Community, Arid and Semi-Arid Lands and Regional Development (Hon. Miano) : Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. My response to the intervention by Sen. Chute is that the current procurement process is open...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Cherarkey, kindly resume your seat. That matter was well addressed by the Speaker when he was here. (Sen. Cherarkey spoke off record) That is why I am giving you guidance that the matter is well-placed. It will be canvassed tomorrow at a high-level meeting...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)Who is seconding you?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Cherarkey, proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Cherarkey, for the purpose of record, did we not pass as a House, that once an athlete wins, he or she should get a house and Kshs5 million so that also other Kenyans can---

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Is that the set standard that everybody will be getting? June 14, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 28

Plenary Contribution 7th June 2023

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Certified Hansard section Wednesday, 7th June, 2023 - Afternoon Sitting

Sen. Kathuri) : Mr. Chairman, Sir. I beg to move- THAT Clause 4 of the Bill be amended– Division will be at the end. Clause 3 (Question, that Clause 3 be part of the Bill, proposed) June 7, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 26

Sen. Kathuri): Sen. Kathuri):Parliamentary Powers and Privileges (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No.5 of 2022) and seek leave to sit again tomorrow. Sen. Kathuri): Sen. Kathuri): Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Sir. I beg to move: - THAT clause 3 of the Bill be amended by—

Mr. Chairman, Sir. I beg to move- THAT Clause 4 of the Bill be amended–

Sen. Kathuri) : Sen. Kathuri) : Division will be at the end. Title and Clause 1 (Question, the Title and Clause 1 be part of the Bill proposed) Division will be at the end. (The Chairperson (

Sen. Kathuri) consulted the Clerk-at-the-Table) The Chairperson (Sen. Kathuri) : Sen. Kathuri) consulted the Clerk-at-the-Table) The Chairperson (Sen. Kathuri) : Mr. Chairperson, Sir, I beg to move: - THAT Clause 6 of the Bill be amended -

Mr. Chairman, Sir, pursuant to Standing Order No.153, I beg to move that the Committee do report progress on its consideration of the June 7, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 28

Parliamentary Powers and Privileges (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No.5 of 2022) and seek leave to sit again tomorrow. THE NATURAL RESOURCES (BENEFIT SHARING) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.6 OF 2022)

June 7, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 29

Sen. Tabitha Keroche was dropped) Clause 4 and Heading to Part II

Mr. Chairman, Sir, I beg to move that THAT clause 4 of the Bill be amended by inserting the following new paragraph immediately after paragraph (f) — HEADING TO PART II

Sen. Kathuri) : THAT clause 13 of the Bill be amended in subclause (3) by inserting the words “be appointed by the respective county executive committee member responsible for matters relating to natural resources and” immediately after the words “sharing forum shall”. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Chairperson (Sen....

Sen. Kathuri) : THAT Clause 18 of the Bill be amended in subclause (1) by inserting the words “in consultation with the Authority and the Council of County Governors” immediately after the words “Cabinet Secretary may”. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Chairperson (Sen. Kathuri) : Again, Sen. Kisang. Division...

THAT clause 12 of the Bill be amended in subclause (2) by deleting the word “Commission” appearing immediately after the words “deposited with the” and substituting therefor the word “Authority”. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Chairperson ( Sen. Kathuri) : Sen. Kathuri) : Division will be at the end....

Sen. Kathuri) : Thank you, Mr. Chairman Sir, I beg move that New Clause 5 be read a Second Time; Establishment of the Benefit Sharing Authority. Hon. Senators, you will realize that I put the question because there is no Senator who is interested to make a comment or contribute...

Sen. Kathuri) : Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I feel like you are moving too fast. Some of these issues are critical. These are new Clauses. I wanted to specifically comment on New Clause 5B. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Wakili Sigei) : Actually there was no indication by anyone to contribute....

THAT the Bill be amended by deleting clause 17 and substituting therefor the following new clause 17- Transitional provisions.

Mr. Chairperson, Sir, I rise to support. This is a transitional Clause to ensure that those who already have licenses to exploit natural resources continue to enjoy the same. The Chairperson ( Sen. Kathuri) : Sen. Kathuri) : Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I wanted to raise the same sentiments. This...

Sen. Kathuri) : Mr. Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move that the Bill be amended by inserting the following New Clause 5C- Tenure of 5C. (1) The members of the Board other than the office. Director-General shall— Again, Sen. Kisang.

Mr. Chairperson, Sir, I rise to support the amendment by the Chair because, as you know, these natural resources are exploited in the counties. In the past, the county governments were not there and, therefore, it was only in consultation with the Cabinet Secretary (CS) . However, since this law...

Sen. Kathuri) : I am sorry, Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir. You moved a bit fast on 5E. I have heard you move to 5F. I wanted some clarity on the issue of conviction, where someone is convicted on a criminal offence and sentenced to a term of imprisonment of not...

Thank you, Mr. Chairman Sir, I beg move that New Clause 5 be read a Second Time; Establishment of the Benefit Sharing Authority.

Mr. Chairman, Sir, this authority that has been established is very important. When you look at the earlier formation, it was a bit cumbersome because it seemed like there were committees that were to be formed both at the local and the national level. I think this is a very...

Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, joined with the knowledge reservoir of dispute resolution that will be created by this Act, I am sure it will serve as a better way to resolve the many disputes in this area of benefit sharing of resources that are extracted from our different counties.I support....

Plenary Contribution 6th June 2023

5 contributions in 1 section

Certified Hansard section Tuesday, 6th June, 2023 - Afternoon Sitting

Sen. Kathuri Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise, pursuant to Standing Order No.3 (1) , to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Education, on the alarmingly high rate of transfer of teachers at KK Mukalamatu Primary School, Karama Ward in Tigania East Constituency in Meru County. In...

Sen. Kathuri Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I just want to inform my brother the Senator for Meru County. He is actually my uncle. Do not dispute that. Maybe we need to ask the Standing Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations not to hear that matter at Committee level. The...

Sen. Kathuri

Sen. Kathuri(Laughter) (Applause) (Laughter)

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. We are not strangers to why we amended the Constitution to create county governments. It appears like the two ladies who have sat in this office had a brief from wherever to ensure that it fails. The moment they came in, they pretended to understand...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered the County Vocational Education and Training Bill (Senate Bills No.3 of 2022) and its approval thereof with amendments.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Senators, proceed and vote.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the County Vocational Education and Training Bill (Senate Bills No.3 of 2022) be now read a Third Time. I ask Sen. Sifuna to second.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question proposed) The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Let the Division Bell be rung for three minutes. (The Division Bell was rung) Serjeant-at-Arms, please, close the door and draw the Bar. (The door was closed and the Bar drawn) Hon. Senators, we are now on...

The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Kathuri) We are now back to Statements. We will get Statements under Standing Order No.53 (1) from Sen. Mbugua. AYES: 30 NOES: 2 ABSTENTIONS: Nil THIRD READING THE COUNTY VOCATIONAL EDUCATION AND TRAINING BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 3 OF 2022)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Very well. Statement deferred. June 6, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 32 The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)A DIVISION ELECTRONIC VOTING

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) I thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Sen. Methu seeks to help me. He can do so if he wants to. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Energy regarding the last mile electricity...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you. Sen. Sifuna has two Statements. I saw him here this afternoon up to the time of Division. Those Statements are dropped. June 6, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 33 The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)A STATUS OF FUNDING FOR SPECIAL NEEDS SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTIES THE...

I thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Sen. Methu seeks to help me. He can do so if he wants to. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Energy regarding the last mile electricity connectivity to public schools. (Sen....

He cannot even hear. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Sen. Joe Nyutu from Murang’a County. I hope you note that I am a ‘Madam Speaker’ not a ‘Speaker Sir.’ Sen. Methu, you may proceed. (Sen. Joe Nyutu spoke off record)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. Sen. Joe Nyutu is your Senator. I am sure that he would not want to give you a title that does not belong to you. I rise to comment on these two Statements that have been sought by my neighbour...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I have three Statements to make. I will start with the most important one affecting dairy farmers in Murang’a. CLOSURE OF THE MURANG’A COUNTY CREAMERIES REGULATION OF CREDIT-ONLY MICROFINANCE INSTITUTIONS INCREASED CASES OF GBV AGAINST MEN

Plenary Contribution 31st May 2023

1 contribution in 2 sections

Certified Hansard section Wednesday, 31st May, 2023 - Morning Sitting

Sen. Kathuri Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for this chance to ask questions to the Cabinet Secretary for Education. I want to ask a direct question because basic education and the right to clean water are fundamental rights for all children. Therefore, how is the Cabinet Secretary going to make...

Certified Hansard section Wednesday, 31st May, 2023 - Afternoon Sitting

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) What is your point of order?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Is that a point of order? Next Order. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, I understand there are more Papers that you have not laid. It is not you. (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Deputy Speaker) I am informed that it is the Chairman of the Committee on Labour...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Munyi Mundigi, I understand that you are hosting Madaraka Day tommorow and you are not inviting Senators to your county? STATEMENTS ALLEGED DISPARITY IN DEVELOPMENT WITHIN EMBU COUNTY

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Order, Sen. Munyi Mundigi. Kuna hoja ya nidhamu.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, at the risk of violating our own Standing Orders, perhaps allow me to say it using the language that he spoke in, so that he understands what the problem was. Amesema anajua Maseneta hawana nguvu. Nguvu ziko katika serikali za kaunti...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am on my feet on a point of order. Pursuant to the Standing Order on responsibility for statements, I do not think it is correct for the Senator for Embu County to say that Senators have no power in his own language.

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. (Laughter)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) What is it, Sen. Munyi Mundigi? I gave you privilege to welcome Senators not to dramatize your issues here.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)County Government of Taita Taveta.In the Statement, the committee should-

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I have three Statements that I want to make. I will start with the easiest on the compensation of a family struck by lightning in Tharaka Nithi County.

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity to request for these two Statements. Allow me to go through both of them. STATUS OF MINERAL ROYALTY ACCOUNTS UTILISATION OF THE EQUALISATION FUND IN THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT OF TAITA TAVETA May 31, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 31

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you. Sen. Githuku, proceed. QUOTA FOR EMPLOYMENT POSITIONS TO PWDS IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Next Statement is by Sen. Chimera. HIGH TRANSFER RATE OF TEACHERS IN MERU COUNTY STATUS OF REGISTRATION OF PERSONS IN WEST POKOT COUNTY

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) , to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations regarding the registration of persons in West Pokot County. In the Statement, the Committee should- The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, pursuant to Standing Order No.57 (1) , I hereby present to the Senate the business of the House for the week commencing Tuesday, 6th June, 2023. As I highlighted in my Statement on Thursday, 25th May, 2023, there are important financial...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you. Proceed, Sen. M. kajwang’.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)Madam Temporary Speaker, the European Union (EU) came up with the right to disconnect in January 2021 as the workers right. The EU has defined the right to disconnect as –‘A worker’s right to disengage from work and refrain from engaging in work related electronic communication...

Plenary Contribution 25th May 2023

Presiding activity · not counted

Certified Hansard section Thursday, 25th May, 2023 - Afternoon Sitting

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Clerk, kindly, ascertain whether we have quorum? (The Clerk-at the-Table consulted the Deputy Speaker) The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) I request the Quorum Bell to be rung for five minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) I have now ascertained that...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Senate Majority Leader. Let us proceed to the next Order. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS May 25, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 3 STATEMENTS The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) We have a number of Statements; almost 12. So, I will limit the time for interventions to strictly...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Let us have the next Statement by Nominated Senator, Sen. Hamida Kibwana. She has four Statements. EARLY RELEASE OF INMATES CONVICTED OF MINOR OFFENSES May 25, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 4

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Before I give a few Members to make their comments, let me make this Communication. (Interruption of debate on Statements) COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM TOP VIEW ACADEMY, BARINGO COUNTY

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, please, the visitors will be welcome uninterrupted. May 25, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 6

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Chairman of the Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations. VISITING DELEGATION FROM ALLIANCE VIEW JUNIOR SCHOOL, KIAMBU COUNTY The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, again, in the Public Gallery are 36 students accompanied by four teachers from Alliance View Junior...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Senator for Kiambu County. I will pick a few Senators to comment on the Statements that have been read out. We will start with the Senate Majority Leader.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) You know what Standing Order No.96 stipulates. That is why I am allowing the Senate Majority Leader to make his comments. After that, you can raise whatever is agitating you, unless you want to assume the Office of the Senate Majority Leader. (Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Senate Majority Leader. The next one is Sen. Faki.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) What was your point of order, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale? Let me hear your problem.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Let me give some guidance, so that we make progress. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, do not muzzle the work of Senate Committees. That Report should be brought here by the Committee. There might be more others who need to be fired. Why are you stopping the...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, you are now out of order. I gave guidance on this matter. Why are you digging into it again and also inviting many points of order? Sen. Onyonka, do you have your Statement? Do not speak on that KEMSA matter.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) I wanted to allow a few Members to comment on the first four Statements and then you give yours, next.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) No, let us have Sen. Faki. You will have an opportunity to read your Statement.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Sen. Faki. Hon. Senators, I gave direction that you should strictly take two minutes for comments on the Statements. This is because we have many of them this afternoon. Sen. Cherarkey, proceed, but avoid a lot of protocols. Just go to the point.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Proceed, Sen. Maanzo.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Maanzo, I have received a text message from the Chair of KEWOSA. They are looking keenly at what the men Senators can do. Proceed, Sen. Kisang. May 25, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 13

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Proceed, Senate Minority Leader, Sen. Madzayo. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Asante, Bw. Naibu Spika.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I take this opportunity on behalf of my colleagues and the House, to join you in welcoming the students from Embakasi Girls. They have come on a good afternoon when there are some good matters on the Floor of...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I thank Sen. Kibwana for requesting a Statement on the closure of Kabarnet School for the deaf. Last week, I had a chance to reach out to the Cabinet Secretary in charge of education. The Member of Parliament for Baringo Central...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order 53 (1) , to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Trade, Industrialization and Tourism on non-compliance with standard weights and measures in tea marketing affecting smallholder farmers. In the Statement, the...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)must rise to the occasion and ensure that contracts entered into protect the marketing, the sale and ring-fence crops such as tea.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I rise to support the Statement by Sen. Ogola on the issue of relocating the prison. We have just been having a discussion on prisons whereby the Government has no capacity to expand the existing prisons. I really wonder...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. We know that the advent of AFFA repealed several statutes that administer many crops. Since the board of AFFA deals with every crop in this country, it is crucial to every Senator from an agricultural area. Given that agriculture is a devolved function under Schedule...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Education on the establishment of a public teacher training college in Kirinyaga County. In the Statement, the Committee should- AMPUTATION OF BABY RIDHWAN YASIR...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement on Standing Committee on Health regarding the amputation of Baby Ridhwan Yasir Noor’s finger at Kerugoya County Referral Hospital in a suspected case of medical negligence. In the Statement, the Committee should- PLANS...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Education on the establishment of a public teacher training college in Kirinyaga County. In the Statement, the Committee should- THE DELAYED CONSTRUCTION OF WAMUMU KEMRI STATION MEDICAL FACILITY IN...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you. Sen. Ogola, I did not cut you short, but you know we had already done with the Statements by Sen. Onyonka. Now, we are on the Statements by Sen. (Dr.) Murango. Let us have Sen. Methu as the last person contributing to the...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Bw. Naibu Spika, nachukua fursa hii kukushukuru kwa kunipa nafasi hii ili niweze kuchangia Taarifa iliyoletwa na Sen. (Dr.) Murango kuhusu mtoto ambaye vidole vyake vilikatwa katika Hospitali ya Referral ya Kerugoya. Inakuwaje mtoto ambaye anaugua ugonjwa wa pumu kukatwa vidole na madaktari wa hospitali...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

Plenary Contribution 24th May 2023

4 contributions in 2 sections

Certified Hansard section Wednesday, 24th May, 2023 - Morning Sitting

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Clerk, confirm whether we have quorum. (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Deputy Speaker) Ring the Quorum Bell for five minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Ring the Quorum Bell for another 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Senators, I can confirm that we...

The Deputy Speaker (Hon. Kathuri) Just a minute, kindly. Who has given you the microphone? What is happening, hon. Chute? Are you hacking the system? (Laughter)

Sen. Kathuri) : Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. However, you see--- The Deputy speaker (Sen. Kathuri) : I have not given you--- Okay. Please proceed for only one minute. What do you want to add to my Communication?

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity. The Minister got this information or the letter for invitation on 15th of March. He should have answered this question or he should have let us, the House, know that he is not going to be in because he received the...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. However, you see--- The Deputy speaker ( Sen. Kathuri) :to the Kenya Petroleum Refineries where we had some tank firms. That is where the storage was done in Mombasa over a two-year period.The objectives of the early oil pilot scheme were as follows- I...

(Technical hitch)Thank you. Sorry, Mr. Speaker. My apologies. The Deputy speaker ( Sen. Kathuri) : Sen. Kathuri) : I do not know what is happening with the system. The technical team should work on this system with immediate effect so that we can do smart business.As I was saying, Sen....

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)we will need to confirm the economic commerciality of building a pipeline and a refinery. That report will come to this House.We have also checked the real detailed cost in a report done by an independent auditor. I have a report of 38 pages, which I...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, this is the saddest news I have ever received in this Senate. In the report given by the Cabinet Secretary, they have agreed that crude oil was sold and exported to a United Kingdom Company. Those were 414,777 barrels of crude oil. What we received as...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Bw. Naibu Spika, kutokana na swali la Sen. Lomenen, Kaunti ya Turkana inajulikana kwa rasilimali ya mafuta. Wakati wa kuchimba mafuta, miradi ya Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) ilitakiwa kufanywa. Kwa vile mafuta yalichimbwa huko Turkana hayakuwa na faida, ni jambo gani ambalo litafanyiwa wakaazi wa...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)I worked closely with Sen. Lomenen in 20 13, 2014, and 2015 when I was the CS in the same Ministry. I am sure that he agrees that there is need for significant corporate investments in the community, in the county, and more importantly, the country...

Bw. Naibu Spika, nikimalizia nilikuwa niko na swali kuhusu Kaunti ya Turkana. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Ni sawa, malizia maswali yako na masuala ya Kaunti ya Turkana.

Bw. Naibu Spika, kutokana na swali la Sen. Lomenen, Kaunti ya Turkana inajulikana kwa rasilimali ya mafuta. Wakati wa kuchimba mafuta, miradi ya Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) ilitakiwa kufanywa. Kwa vile mafuta yalichimbwa huko Turkana hayakuwa na faida, ni jambo gani ambalo litafanyiwa wakaazi wa Kaunti ya Turkana ili waridhike...

Asante, Bw. Naibu Spika. Ninangoja nafasi nyingine ya kuuliza maswali ambayo hayahusiki na maswali ya Sen. Lomenen. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. (Dr.) Murango, your question is like a comment. I do not know whether the Cabinet Secretary has a specific answer. Let me allow Sen. Chute to ask...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Thank you, Cabinet Secretary (CS) for coming before us today. I was in your office last week. I raised the issue of Marsabit and you helped me. For that, I thank you. I want to get a direct answer from you. I know you...

May 24, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 9 The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, allow me to congratulate the Minister for being appointed the CS. Many people in Kenya have confidence that you are going to succeed because of your history. When Tullow Company announced that they had struck...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. We have agreed with the CS that we have a meeting with him this Friday as a Committee, then we will schedule one of the Wednesdays in this House so that he gives us the actual status of the last-mile connectivity across the country....

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I thank the Cabinet Secretary (CS) for appearing before the House. I must say that this is a very good avenue for us to interact with relevant Ministries, though some of the Members did not embrace the process. Mr....

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Yes, sure. You know the CS is a very available person. Next is Sen. Mbugua. May 24, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 13 The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, there is a lot of interest...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Proceed, Sen. Mandago. (Laughter)

Sawa. I will look for him. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)292,479 just to assure this House and Turkana County that their oil was not sold for more but less was declared.Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, finally, since I can see that you are still consulting, allow me to ask the CS...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, first, I take this opportunity to congratulate the Cabinet Secretary because I have not had the opportunity since their assumption to office. Moving to my question, I would like to know how functional the reporting guidelines in the framework that they...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I am happy the Cabinet Secretary found time to come and engage the Senate.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have very pertinent issues in Tharaka Nithi County and that is why I am in this House. It is important for the Cabinet Secretary to know that we have constant power blackouts in Tharaka Nithi County. We have only one...

Thank you, Waziri, for coming. I think much has been said about Turkana. From Turkana all the way to Marsabit and Wajir, we believe that we have a lot of oil than the hydrocarbons like gas. I was told that a huge deposit was discovered in Wajir. What is the...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I am happy the Cabinet Secretary found time to come and engage the Senate. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Do not go into the power in Tharaka Nithi County, that matter will be sorted out. Just go directly to the question.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have very pertinent issues in Tharaka Nithi County and that is why I am in this House. It is important for the Cabinet Secretary to know that we have constant power blackouts in Tharaka Nithi County. We have only one line which is about 333,000...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) He is a smart Cabinet Secretary and he always has everything on his fingertips. Mr. Deputy Speaker, we have an issue of transformers. We have quite a number of clients who have paid for the transformers and there is quite a big delay of delivery...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, give me two seconds only. We have a faulty transformer in Muramba Wa Mbogo, that is Tharaka North, which has been without power for almost six months. There is another faulty transformer in Mukungu, King’ondu in Chuka as well as a place called Kwa Njiku in...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is important that the Cabinet Secretary gets to know that these are the kind of problems that we are experiencing on the ground. We can have this conversation off the cuff. I can give you the names so that your people can make a follow...

Asante, Bw. Naibu Spika kwa nafasi hii. Waziri ametaja kwamba kupatia Wakenya umeme ni jambo ambalo anashughulikia. Kuna vijana mliowaandika kufanya kazi ya kuunganisha nyaya za umeme ili Wakenya wapate umeme. Mko na malighafi ya kutosha kuhakikisha Wakenya wanapata umeme? Iwapo hawatoshi, ni mbinu zipi ama vigezo vipi ambavyo mnatumia...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Allow me to compliment the Cabinet Secretary because he is one of the well performing Cabinet Secretaries. All these wishes that you hear on the Floor are because he --- The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I wish to...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I wish to support the Motion for adoption of the Report. As you are aware, the Standing Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental relations visited Tharaka-Nithi County to analyze the situation as reported and found many things had been lacking. Most parts...

Hon. Senators, this is a continuation of a Motion, which is the Adoption of the Report of the Standing Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations on a Statement sought on the relocation of national Government Administrative services from Chuka Town to Kathwana county headquarters, Tharaka-Nithi County. Sen. Methu was contributing...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I wish to support the Motion for adoption of the Report. As you are aware, the Standing Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental relations visited Tharaka-Nithi County to analyze the situation as reported and found many things had been lacking. Most parts of the county are arid...

Certified Hansard section Wednesday, 24th May, 2023 - Afternoon Sitting

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) I was inquiring whether we have the requisite quorum. Ring the Quorum Bell for three minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) (Several Senators walked into the Chamber) Now we have quorum. Call out the first Order. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, I have...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Next, Sen. Osotsi.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Mandago, proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you. Sen. Omogeni, proceed. May 24, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 6

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you. Sen. Ogola, you may proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, I will give a few more Senators a chance to utilize the 30 minutes after I recognize these visitors. (Interruption of debate on the Petitions) May 24, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 9 COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM WEITHAGA BOYS HIGH SCHOOL, MURANG’A...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) That is wise counsel. Were you a principal or a mere teacher?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) What is out of order, Sen. M. Kajwang’?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. M. Kajwang’, you are out of order. Resume your seat. (Sen. M. Kajwang' sat at his place) The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Let us proceed. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, we are now going back to the Petitions and the Floor is yours. (Resumption of debate...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Proceed, Sen. Faki.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you. Proceed, Sen. Wafula.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Proceed, Sen. Mwaruma.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, our 30 minutes’ window for the Petitions are actually over. However, I give two minutes to Sen. Okenyuri.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, the Petition on enactment of legislation to regulate the credit management is committed to the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget. The other Petition by the petitioner from Nyeri, Mr. Julius Wanjohi, stands committed to the Standing Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations....

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, what is happening to your eyes?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Okay, proceed. REPORTS ON FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF VARIOUS ENTITIES

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Senate Majority Whip. Let us go to the next Order. We have two notices of Motion. The first one is from the Senate Majority Leader. Who has that notice of Motion? NOTICES OF MOTIONS ALTERATION OF DATES SPECIFIED FOR SITTINGS OF THE SENATE...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) The next notice of Motion is by Sen. Faki. Seneta wa Mombasa, unapeana notisi? URBAN PLANNING FOR SUSTAINABLE LIVING

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Next Order. We have several Statements under Standing Order No. 53 (1) . We will start with the Senator for Kiambu County, Sen. Thangw’a. STATEMENTS ETHNIC COMPOSITION OF THE PUBLIC SECTOR WORKFORCE AT DIFFERENT LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Very well. (Statement withdrawn) Next is the Statement by Senator for Lamu County, Sen. Githuku. May 24, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 19 COMPULSORY ACQUISITION OF LAND BY THE LAMU COUNTY GOVERNMENT

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Cherarkey, do you want to make a comment on this Statement?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Just a minute Sen. Cherarkey. There is a point of order form Sen. Osotsi.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Cherarkey, are you in order to say that?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Osotsi, you have already executed your point of order. Are you on another one?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) There is another point of order from Sen. Githuku.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Kamau Githuku, Sen. Faki wants to inform you. I do not know what he wants to inform you about. Do you want to be informed by Sen. Faki?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Do you want to be informed?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Let me get two more points of order, then we finish. Sen. M. Kajwang’, proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Today, I am a bit generous on these points of order. Sen. Methu, proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) The Chairman for the Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations, the Floor is yours.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) The point of order by the Chairman for Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations, Sen. Cheptumo, is directed to Sen. M. Kajwang’. There is no other Senator who I can give a chance to make any comment before Sen. M. Kajwang’. I have...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) As the Chair, you did not give two definitions of the Member. You only defined that a Member can be removed from serving in a committee due to lack of capacity.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. M. Kajwang’, do you want to apologize to your colleague or what is your position?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) My advice is that if you feel you did not offend him, then I request the Clerk to produce the HANSARD in our next Sitting, so that we confirm whether you imputed improper motive on the Senator for Lamu County.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Yes, because the people of Lamu should also get the satisfaction that their Senator has the capacity or not. Let us stop there until I get the HANSARD.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. M. Kajwang’, it is so ordered. I want us to make progress. As the Chair, I also want clarification when I preside. May 24, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 24 The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)Sen. Cherarkey is your Vice Chair. When you were describing him, you...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) It is Sen. Sifuna.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Cherarkey, we are through with that. Make your comment and you have one minute.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) What is your point of order, Sen. Oketch Gicheru? Quote the Standing Order you will refer to.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Just a minute, Sen. Cherarkey. May 24, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 25

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Which Standing Order are you referring to?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Where?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) You are also talking about the Jubilee Party.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Sen. Oketch Gicheru. We have heard you. Sen. Cherarkey, now conclude your support for the Statement.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) I did not find anything that he should withdraw on that matter.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Kindly, conclude on the Statement. Do not go out of the way because we need to make progress.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Next Statement by Sen. Ogola. PROPOSED EXPANSION OF KABUNDE AIRSTRIP AND COMPENSATION OF LAND OWNERS

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) What is your point of order?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Chimera, can you go back to the Bar and move appropriately. (Sen. Chimera walked to the Bar and bowed to the Chair) The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Proceed, Sen. Ogola.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Next Statement by Sen. Okenyuri. (A hon. Member spoke off record) The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) It will be after this. Let us combine both of them. BOUNDARY DISPUTE BETWEEN KISII AND NYAMIRA COUNTIES

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) I will take very brief comments from two or three Senators. Proceed, Sen. M. Kajwang’.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Cheptumo, proceed. Kindly use only two minutes.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Wafula, proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. (Prof.) Tom Odhiambo Ojienda, proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, I want to reorganize the business. The business appearing as Order No.8 is deferred. Now, we go to Order Nos.9 and 10. We shall handle them simultaneously in the Committee of the Whole. THE PROMPT PAYMENT BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 8 OF 2022...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I rise to move the Bill on Cotton Industry Development. The objective of this Bill is to provide for policy and institutional framework within which the cotton industry operates by establishing Cotton Development Board of Kenya.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I beg to move that the Cotton Industry Development Bill (Senate Bills No.5 of 2023) be read a Second Time. The object of this Bill is to provide for policy and institutional framework within which cotton industry operates by establishing...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do I agree with the Committee on the said report. The Senator for Busia County shall second. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Okiya Omtatah, please second.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)Vile vile, Serikali za kaunti zimepewa majukumu ya kuwapa mbegu na pembejeo wakulima hawa ili maeneo ya Nyanza, yaliyo na kiwanda ama taasisi ya uchunguzi na utafiti wa upanzi wa pamba uweze kuimarishwa...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I rise to move the Bill on Cotton Industry Development. The objective of this Bill is to provide for policy and institutional framework within which the cotton industry operates by establishing Cotton Development Board of Kenya. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sorry, Sen. Beth...

Plenary Contribution 4th May 2023

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Certified Hansard section Thursday, 4th May, 2023 - Afternoon Sitting

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) The next Statement is by Sen. Gataya Mo Fire. CONNECTION OF ELECTRICITY IN THARAKA NITHI COUNTY

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) The next Statement is by Sen. Kibwana. STATUS OF THE MES LEASED TO COUNTIES

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Kibwana, I thought you had two Statements. There is another one that I saw here. Is it the same one? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted the Chair) No, it is the same Statement. Let us get at least two comments on those close figures you have...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, if I give you a chance, kindly use two minutes. Sen. Kisang, do you want to comment on this Statement?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Just a minute, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale. What is your point of order, Sen. Mumma?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Quote the Standing Order and then proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Maybe, you could have said that you are on a point of information instead. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, please, proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, kindly proceed and conclude your point.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Tabitha Mutinda, two minutes.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Let us get the next Statement by Sen. Cherarkey. We have several Statements. Therefore, I will be very mean in giving comments. FUEL SUBSIDY PROGRAMME

The Deputy Speaker (Sen Kathuri) Thank you, Sen. Cherarkey. Senator of Kajiado County, Sen. Seki, please, proceed. May 4, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 27 IMPACT OF THE RECENT DROUGHT ON THE LIVESTOCK INDUSTRY IN KENYA

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) The next Statement is by Sen. Ogola. FAULTY TRANSFORMERS IN HOMA BAY COUNTY

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Chairperson Committee on Roads, Transportation and Housing. Let us now go to the other Statement pursuant to Standing Order No.57 (1) by the Senate Majority Leader. BUSINESS FOR THE WEEK COMMENCING TUESDAY, 23RD MAY 2023

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Senate Majority Whip. Let us go to the next Order. THE AGRICULTURE AND FOOD SECURITY (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.13 OF 2023) THE EQUALIZATION FUND (ADMINISTRATION) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.14 OF 2023) THE CONSTITUTION OF KENYA (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.15 OF 2023)...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) May we get a seconder?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, there is an intervention from Sen. Ogola that I am interpreting as a point of order.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) The Chair has no eyes. I was not aware that you were only five. I thought you were full House. Kindly ring the Quorum Bell for five minutes. (Quorum Bell was rung for five minutes) Ring the Quorum Bell for another five minutes. (Quorum Bell...

Plenary Contribution 3rd May 2023

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The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Senator for Kitui County. Since this Report has come to this House through a certain conveyor belt, let us now hear from the horse’s mouth so that you can give Members insight on what is happening in Tharaka Nithi County.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Mumma, proceed. May 3, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 17

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Mungatana, proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Sen. Mungatana. I was also trying to update myself with the procedures of handling reports. This is now not a report of the Committee, but a report of this House. Therefore, any Member can make amendments to it through the right channels. As...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Okay. Proceed, Hon. Deputy Speaker emeritus, Sen. (Prof.) Kamar.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Sen. (Prof.) Kamar. There is an intervention from Sen. Mumma. Is it on this visit? May 3, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 21

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) No, I do not think we need that guidance now. Let Members ventilate on the report and then that can be done at an appropriate time. Proceed, Sen. Maanzo. (Resumption of debate on Report)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Makueni Senator. The Majority Whip, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, kindly proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Proceed, Sen. Osotsi.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) What is your point of order?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Okay, Sen. Cherarkey, make your contributions as you execute your point of order.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Cherarkey, I want to confirm that I am a senior elder of the Njuri Ncheke. (Applause)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Cherarkey, why are you stopping your debate? You were doing so well and now you are distracted.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) You were doing well. I am looking at the time too.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Senator. Sen. Olekina, proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you. Proceed, Sen. Faki.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Asante sana. Sen. Methu, nafasi ni yako.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) You are stopping your time, Sen. Methu.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Give Sen. Methu some minutes to conclude his point. May 3, 2023 SENATE DEBATES 36

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Wafula, what is your point of order? Now we can listen to your point of order.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Now that I have no say in this, as the Chair, I propose the question. (Question that debate on the Motion be now adjourned, proposed) (Question put and agreed to) The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Methu, you have 12 minutes when this Motion resumes....