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Sen. BillowWe simply want to say that if the actual revenue raised in a financial year falls short, that shortfall should be borne by the national Government. It should not be the burden of the county governments.

Sen. Billow On behalf of the Leader of the Delegation, I vote yes. An hon. Senator: Do you have the powers? The Chairperson (Sen. Kembi-Gitura) : I want to reiterate this, as the Chairman of the Committee of the Whole, that this thing about delegated power is important. I could...

We shall come to it. I want to refer you to Standing Order No.134 on the sequence of going through the Bill at the Committee Stage. We will come to that one at the end when we are dealing with the title, Clause 1 and then Clause 2. Sen. Billow

May 23, 2013 SENATE DEBATES Sen. Billow On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I want to agree with you fully that the suggestion by the Professor is not sufficient. Voting is by Delegation. It goes on record to show how a delegation has voted and through who....

Mr. Billowand, when Senators who wish to speak have spoken, the Chairperson shall put that question to the Committee for decision.”Mr. Chairman, Sir, so we cannot do it in an omnibus manner. We have got to do them sequentially and severally, in accordance with Standing Order No.134. That means that...

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Sen. Billow On behalf of the Leader of the Delegation, I vote yes. An hon. Senator: Do you have the powers? The Chairperson (Sen. Kembi-Gitura) : I want to reiterate this, as the Chairman of the Committee of the Whole, that this thing about delegated power is important. I could...

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Sen. Billow Mr. Chairman, Sir, just to be clear on how the Committee of the House handles a Bill, I will refer to Standing Order No.134. The Bill has now been committed to the Committee of the Whole, as required under Standing Order No.133. Then, Standing Order No.134 says:- “In...

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Sen. Billow Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that a Committee of the Whole has considered the Division of Revenue Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.1 of 2013) and approved the same with amendments.

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Sen. Billow On behalf of the Leader of the Delegation, I vote yes. An hon. Senator: Do you have the powers? The Chairperson (Sen. Kembi-Gitura) : I want to reiterate this, as the Chairman of the Committee of the Whole, that this thing about delegated power is important. I could...

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Sen. Billow Mr. Chairman, Sir, just to be clear on how the Committee of the House handles a Bill, I will refer to Standing Order No.134. The Bill has now been committed to the Committee of the Whole, as required under Standing Order No.133. Then, Standing Order No.134 says:- “In...

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Sen. Billow Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that a Committee of the Whole has considered the Division of Revenue Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.1 of 2013) and approved the same with amendments.

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Sen. Billow Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, after looking at this matter seriously, I rise to oppose this Motion because of a number of reasons. One, if these debts of the local authorities are transferred to the national government there will be an element of inequity or an element of unfairness...

Sen. Billow On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Is the Senator in order to mislead the House that the county governments are taking over only liabilities when, in fact, they are also taking over the assets of the local authorities? In fact, the value of the assets...

Sen. Billow Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, and thank you, Sen. Musila. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I think this Motion is long overdue. This Motion is a clear manifestation of the inequitable distribution of resources that we have seen in this country; and the skewed allocation of resources by the Treasury...

Sen. Billow Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Speaker, Sir. I beg to support.

Sen. Kerrow On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir? Would I be in order to suggest that you put the question of the amendment?

Sen. Billow On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir, is it in order for the hon. Senator to suggest that validation of an inventory of assets and liabilities is indeed the same as an audit? The issue is that whereas the act requires that statements of assets and liabilities...

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Sen. Billow Let me just dispose of this matter. I think it is important for us to be clear. I will entertain all your points of order including that from my good friend, Senator for Migori. Standing Order No.178 does not require any interpretation, it is self evident. You can...

What is it, Sen. Kerrow? Sen. BillowMotion, let us deal with this. The Standing Orders require that if you contribute to a Motion, you must be relevant. While I appreciate that you can mention other things in passing, surely, you cannot dwell, during your entire contribution, on a matter that...

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Sen. Billow Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. My congratulations are to all my fellow Senators. I have looked at the list as proposed to us by the Senate Majority Leader. Indeed, pursuant to Standing Order No.174, the list is in order. However, I would like to remind the political parties...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. My congratulations are to all my fellow Senators. I have looked at the list as proposed to us by the Senate Majority Leader. Indeed, pursuant to Standing Order No.174, the list is in order. However, I would like to remind the political parties that they...

Order! Order, Senator from Mombasa! This House has a certain sitting arrangement! (Sen. Hassan sat down)

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have seen Members who have already been appointed to some substantive positions in this House already being given extra responsibilities. I believe every hon. Senator in this House has the ability and intelligence to be appointed to some committees. Maybe we may excuse the political parties...

I thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to support this Motion. The Rules and House Business Committee is the most important Committee of this House. In fact, if this Committee was in China, it would be called the “Central Committee.” Mr. Speaker, Sir, this Senate will succeed or fail...

I will allow the three that are on their feet. Please, make your contributions very minimal.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, mine is just to know something about the Committee. I think the committee Members were selected. I would like to know who selected the Committee Members, what criterion was used and the requirements of being a Member of the Committee.

Hon. Senators, we are contributing to the Motion. Therefore, it is good for you to indicate whether you are opposing or supporting.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I stand to support this Motion. I support all the Members who have been selected to this Committee. In my opinion, these are leaders and Senators who are equal to this important task. I have engaged with them at different levels and I think they...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I also stand to support this Motion. First of all, I wish to share my experience as the Whip at the National Assembly and allay fears as expressed by some Senators. Looking at this list, I want to assure hon. Senators that it is absolutely...

Order, hon. Senators, there was a proposal on the Floor of the House on the closure of this Debate which I said I would entertain after allowing the three Senators who were already on their feet. According to Standing Order No.96, I will now put the Question. April 17, 2013...

(Question, that the Mover be called upon to reply, put and agreed to) He may now reply. As you reply, you need to deal with the issues that hon. Senators raised, at least, in passing.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Hon. Senators have made very important contributions concerning the constitution of this Committee. We have noted the very important issues that have been mentioned. We want to assure hon. Members that as we continue constituting other Committees and transacting business, we will do things much...

You should say, I beg to move.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to move.

Before I put the Question and still on the learning curve, especially regarding the contribution by Sen. Khaniri, I want to refer him to Standing Order No.2 on Interpretation on page 19 which gives the definition of a parliamentary party. It says:- “Parliamentary party” means a party or a coalition...

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I have noted that when we speak we refer to Senators as some being elected and some nominated. I think you should give firm directions so that we know that everybody in this House has been elected. That is the position of...

Hon. Senators, for purposes of parliamentary parties, that is clear. Regarding the issue raised by Sen. Kajwang, we will do a communication to that effect, but not now. I, therefore, wish to put the Question. (Question put and agreed to) April 17, 2013 SENATE DEBATES ADJOURNMENT

Hon. Senators, for those who have been appointed to the Rules and Business Committee, we are convening immediately at the rise of the House this morning in the boardroom Second Floor. Hon. Senators, since we have concluded the business on the Order Paper, the House, therefore, stands adjourn until this...

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Sen. Billow Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. My congratulations are to all my fellow Senators. I have looked at the list as proposed to us by the Senate Majority Leader. Indeed, pursuant to Standing Order No.174, the list is in order. However, I would like to remind the political parties...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. My congratulations are to all my fellow Senators. I have looked at the list as proposed to us by the Senate Majority Leader. Indeed, pursuant to Standing Order No.174, the list is in order. However, I would like to remind the political parties that they...

Order! Order, Senator from Mombasa! This House has a certain sitting arrangement! (Sen. Hassan sat down)

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have seen Members who have already been appointed to some substantive positions in this House already being given extra responsibilities. I believe every hon. Senator in this House has the ability and intelligence to be appointed to some committees. Maybe we may excuse the political parties...

I thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to support this Motion. The Rules and House Business Committee is the most important Committee of this House. In fact, if this Committee was in China, it would be called the “Central Committee.” Mr. Speaker, Sir, this Senate will succeed or fail...

I will allow the three that are on their feet. Please, make your contributions very minimal.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, mine is just to know something about the Committee. I think the committee Members were selected. I would like to know who selected the Committee Members, what criterion was used and the requirements of being a Member of the Committee.

Hon. Senators, we are contributing to the Motion. Therefore, it is good for you to indicate whether you are opposing or supporting.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I stand to support this Motion. I support all the Members who have been selected to this Committee. In my opinion, these are leaders and Senators who are equal to this important task. I have engaged with them at different levels and I think they...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I also stand to support this Motion. First of all, I wish to share my experience as the Whip at the National Assembly and allay fears as expressed by some Senators. Looking at this list, I want to assure hon. Senators that it is absolutely...

Order, hon. Senators, there was a proposal on the Floor of the House on the closure of this Debate which I said I would entertain after allowing the three Senators who were already on their feet. According to Standing Order No.96, I will now put the Question. April 17, 2013...

(Question, that the Mover be called upon to reply, put and agreed to) He may now reply. As you reply, you need to deal with the issues that hon. Senators raised, at least, in passing.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Hon. Senators have made very important contributions concerning the constitution of this Committee. We have noted the very important issues that have been mentioned. We want to assure hon. Members that as we continue constituting other Committees and transacting business, we will do things much...

You should say, I beg to move.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to move.

Before I put the Question and still on the learning curve, especially regarding the contribution by Sen. Khaniri, I want to refer him to Standing Order No.2 on Interpretation on page 19 which gives the definition of a parliamentary party. It says:- “Parliamentary party” means a party or a coalition...

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I have noted that when we speak we refer to Senators as some being elected and some nominated. I think you should give firm directions so that we know that everybody in this House has been elected. That is the position of...

Hon. Senators, for purposes of parliamentary parties, that is clear. Regarding the issue raised by Sen. Kajwang, we will do a communication to that effect, but not now. I, therefore, wish to put the Question. (Question put and agreed to) April 17, 2013 SENATE DEBATES ADJOURNMENT

Hon. Senators, for those who have been appointed to the Rules and Business Committee, we are convening immediately at the rise of the House this morning in the boardroom Second Floor. Hon. Senators, since we have concluded the business on the Order Paper, the House, therefore, stands adjourn until this...