Martha Wangari

Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Hon. Murwithania, you are out of order. You cannot withdraw from the Chamber when the Quorum Bell is ringing. Serjeant-at-Arms, we will do another five minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Members, we will begin the proceedings of the House. We will start with Papers and,...

Next Order. 1st July 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 1 QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS There are some Statements to be requested, but first allow me to recognise, in the Speaker’s Gallery, a visiting delegation from Alternative Provision for Basic Education (APBET) from Mathare Constituency, Nairobi County. (Applause)

Yes, you will, Member for Mathare, but first let me also congratulate you for bringing the Bill to this House. I remember that during the 12th Parliament, you were very vigorous in championing for it. It applies to very many aspects, including the right to getting food to the community...

Hon. Tongoyo, this Request for Statement is referred to your Committee.

Hon. Mwago, do you want to comment on the same?

You have made your point, Hon. Mwago. This was Hon. Oluoch’s Request for Statement. Hon. Tongoyo, yesterday you indicated that your scheduled meeting with the Cabinet Secretary and the security organs did not take off. You can include these issues in the agenda. On this specific matter, you will issue...

Hon. Tongoyo, again, this Request for Statement is referred to your Committee. Also, note that this is not the first time the issue of Gikomba fires has been brought to the House. It is a recurrent issue. As you seek a response, also address the recurrence element of this matter.

We will have the response in the first week upon resumption from recess. Let us hear Hon. Mwago. 1st July 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 4

Hon. Mwago, you have already made your point. I have ruled on when a response should be brought. I have guided the Chairperson on Article 125 of the Constitution, which gives him the ability to summon any person to appear before the Committee to provide information. Also, Article 189 of...

This is a very thorny issue not just in Kuresoi. Hon. Toroitich, do you want to ride on it?

Thank you. Yes, Hon. Sunkuli.

Yes, Hon. Haji.

Hon. Pareyio, we keep it short.

Hon. Members, let us keep it short. You have made your point, Hon. Agnes. Member for Nyando, I want to bring this matter to a close.

I cannot see the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Energy, Hon. Gikaria. Is the Vice-Chairman or any Member of the Committee present? Hon. Sunkuli actually spoke to the main issue because the quality affects all of us. In fact, Hon. Tonui, I was starting to think it is a...

I am told there is a Member of the Committee. Do you have something to say, Hon. Odege?

We expect the Statement in the first week on resumption. Hon. Members, be here to interrogate the Statement. If it is not sufficient, we will cause the Cabinet Secretary to appear here to deal with that issue. Next Order. 1st July 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 7 THE KENYA INFORMATION AND...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the County Governments (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bill No.25 of 2023) and approved the same with amendments.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. This has been a very engaging debate because it is not just about the present. Since the introduction of devolution, a lot has changed. However, one thing that has been constant in the counties is the wage bill. We appropriate billions of shillings to county...

Very well. Member for Kibra.

Hon. Members, I see a few Members intend to ride on this. I cannot see the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee 1st July 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 6 on Education. He was still missing in the morning. Hon. Vice-Chairperson? Is there any Member? I see a few Members. Kindly take...

I fully agree with you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. As Hon. Members representing Utumishi, we had many of these issues when the issue was hot. I agree that sometimes we just react and then let it die off because we are yet to know exactly the findings of the multi-sectoral team....

Hon. Members, let us also realise that this is not a debate. It is a Request for a Statement. If you get an opportunity to ride on it, do it for about 30 seconds. Hon. Maungu.

Hon. Maungu.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker, for this opportunity. I thank Hon. Member for West Mugirango for bringing this issue to the Floor of the House, as the latest victim of these fires in Gilgil. I also appreciate you and other Members who took the time to come to Utumishi Girls...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker, for indulging me. This is a recurrent issue in this House. We have spoken about the periodic updating of this register. These issues are everywhere, even in Gilgil. You get 70-year-olds who are not in the 1st July 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 13 system. Some...

Order, Hon. Wangwe. Hon. Kalasinga, you are out of order. You know what to do. (Hon. Majimbo Kalasinga spoke off the record) No. You know what to do. Hon. Wangwe, continue.

Hon. Wainaina. Give the Member for Othaya the microphone.

Hon. Makali Mulu.

Very well, Hon. Dick Maungu.

Very well. There being no further interest in this Motion, I call upon the Mover to reply.

Very well. I must commend the Committee. Through the Liaison Committee, you have done well in bringing these accounts up to date. (Question put and agreed to) Next Order. THE COUNTY ASSEMBLY SERVICES (AMENDMENT) BILL

(Bill deferred)I was headed there. I do not see the Chairperson in the House. Therefore, the Bill is deferred to the next appointed time. 1st July 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 27 Next Order. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON INQUIRY INTO ALLEGATIONS AGAINST HON. JACK WANAMI WAMBOKA (Motion deferred)I have information that...

Leader of the Majority Party, allow me to make the Communication so that it is on record. It has the same effect as your request. COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR HARMONISATION OF PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE SOVEREIGN WEALTH FUND BILL This is Communication No. 27 of 2026 on the referral of...

The Leader of the Majority Leader, your request has been acceded to. Therefore, Hon. Members, consideration of the Kenya Revenue Authority (Amendment) Bill is stayed to a later date. The Order Paper is also reordered to begin with the Parliamentary Pensions (Amendment) Bill, followed by the Kenya National Library Service...

Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Hon. Murwithania, you are out of order. You cannot withdraw from the Chamber when the Quorum Bell is ringing. Serjeant-at-Arms, we will do another five minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Members, we will begin the proceedings of the House. We will start with Papers and,...

Next Order. 1st July 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 1 QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS There are some Statements to be requested, but first allow me to recognise, in the Speaker’s Gallery, a visiting delegation from Alternative Provision for Basic Education (APBET) from Mathare Constituency, Nairobi County. (Applause)

Yes, you will, Member for Mathare, but first let me also congratulate you for bringing the Bill to this House. I remember that during the 12th Parliament, you were very vigorous in championing for it. It applies to very many aspects, including the right to getting food to the community...

Hon. Tongoyo, this Request for Statement is referred to your Committee.

Hon. Mwago, do you want to comment on the same?

You have made your point, Hon. Mwago. This was Hon. Oluoch’s Request for Statement. Hon. Tongoyo, yesterday you indicated that your scheduled meeting with the Cabinet Secretary and the security organs did not take off. You can include these issues in the agenda. On this specific matter, you will issue...

Hon. Tongoyo, again, this Request for Statement is referred to your Committee. Also, note that this is not the first time the issue of Gikomba fires has been brought to the House. It is a recurrent issue. As you seek a response, also address the recurrence element of this matter.

We will have the response in the first week upon resumption from recess. Let us hear Hon. Mwago. 1st July 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 4

Hon. Mwago, you have already made your point. I have ruled on when a response should be brought. I have guided the Chairperson on Article 125 of the Constitution, which gives him the ability to summon any person to appear before the Committee to provide information. Also, Article 189 of...

This is a very thorny issue not just in Kuresoi. Hon. Toroitich, do you want to ride on it?

Thank you. Yes, Hon. Sunkuli.

Yes, Hon. Haji.

Hon. Pareyio, we keep it short.

Hon. Members, let us keep it short. You have made your point, Hon. Agnes. Member for Nyando, I want to bring this matter to a close.

I cannot see the Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Energy, Hon. Gikaria. Is the Vice-Chairman or any Member of the Committee present? Hon. Sunkuli actually spoke to the main issue because the quality affects all of us. In fact, Hon. Tonui, I was starting to think it is a...

I am told there is a Member of the Committee. Do you have something to say, Hon. Odege?

We expect the Statement in the first week on resumption. Hon. Members, be here to interrogate the Statement. If it is not sufficient, we will cause the Cabinet Secretary to appear here to deal with that issue. Next Order. 1st July 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 7 THE KENYA INFORMATION AND...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the County Governments (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bill No.25 of 2023) and approved the same with amendments.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. This has been a very engaging debate because it is not just about the present. Since the introduction of devolution, a lot has changed. However, one thing that has been constant in the counties is the wage bill. We appropriate billions of shillings to county...

Very well. Member for Kibra.

Hon. Members, I see a few Members intend to ride on this. I cannot see the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee 1st July 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 6 on Education. He was still missing in the morning. Hon. Vice-Chairperson? Is there any Member? I see a few Members. Kindly take...

I fully agree with you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. As Hon. Members representing Utumishi, we had many of these issues when the issue was hot. I agree that sometimes we just react and then let it die off because we are yet to know exactly the findings of the multi-sectoral team....

Hon. Members, let us also realise that this is not a debate. It is a Request for a Statement. If you get an opportunity to ride on it, do it for about 30 seconds. Hon. Maungu.

Hon. Maungu.

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker, for this opportunity. I thank Hon. Member for West Mugirango for bringing this issue to the Floor of the House, as the latest victim of these fires in Gilgil. I also appreciate you and other Members who took the time to come to Utumishi Girls...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker, for indulging me. This is a recurrent issue in this House. We have spoken about the periodic updating of this register. These issues are everywhere, even in Gilgil. You get 70-year-olds who are not in the 1st July 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 13 system. Some...

Order, Hon. Wangwe. Hon. Kalasinga, you are out of order. You know what to do. (Hon. Majimbo Kalasinga spoke off the record) No. You know what to do. Hon. Wangwe, continue.

Hon. Wainaina. Give the Member for Othaya the microphone.

Hon. Makali Mulu.

Very well, Hon. Dick Maungu.

Very well. There being no further interest in this Motion, I call upon the Mover to reply.

Very well. I must commend the Committee. Through the Liaison Committee, you have done well in bringing these accounts up to date. (Question put and agreed to) Next Order. THE COUNTY ASSEMBLY SERVICES (AMENDMENT) BILL

(Bill deferred)I was headed there. I do not see the Chairperson in the House. Therefore, the Bill is deferred to the next appointed time. 1st July 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 27 Next Order. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON INQUIRY INTO ALLEGATIONS AGAINST HON. JACK WANAMI WAMBOKA (Motion deferred)I have information that...

Leader of the Majority Party, allow me to make the Communication so that it is on record. It has the same effect as your request. COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR HARMONISATION OF PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE SOVEREIGN WEALTH FUND BILL This is Communication No. 27 of 2026 on the referral of...

The Leader of the Majority Leader, your request has been acceded to. Therefore, Hon. Members, consideration of the Kenya Revenue Authority (Amendment) Bill is stayed to a later date. The Order Paper is also reordered to begin with the Parliamentary Pensions (Amendment) Bill, followed by the Kenya National Library Service...

Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Deputy Leader of the Majority Party, you have some Papers.

Member for Aldai, what is out of order? 23rd June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 1

I did not know you were the one being referred to. How did you know he was referring to you? I was not aware. Hon. Owen, to whom are you referring?

It is not known to me who Member No. 15 is. Before you go to item No. 3, the Papers on the Draft Privileges and the Legal Notices need to be committed. I commit them to the Committee on Delegated Legislation. You may continue with the others that do not...

The ICT team kindly look into the microphones, including the Speaker’s. Before I give the Floor to the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health, allow me, Hon. Members, to recognise learners in the House from various institutions. There is considerable traffic of learners waiting behind the Chamber to access...

Very well. Learners and teachers who are visiting us today are welcome. Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Health, has a Paper to lay on the Table of the House. Hon. Nyikal, Hon. Wuod(Laughter)

Very well. Chairperson, Budget and Appropriations Committee! I do not see him around. That will be stepped down. He will lay the Papers later. Next Order. NOTICE OF MOTION ADOPTION OF REPORT ON MANAGEMENT OF HAEMOPHILIA AND OTHER BLEEDING DISORDERS Hon. Nyikal.

Very well. Next Order. 23rd June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 3 QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS REQUESTS FOR STATEMENTS MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF BABY SHERLY GATUMI MUGENDI The first chance will go to the Members requesting Statements. Member for Tharaka, Hon. Murugara.

Chairperson, Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security! Vice-Chairperson, will you respond to the Statement?

Hon. Raso, the good thing is that you are the Vice-Chairman of the Committee that is responsible for this matter. So, you will have the chance to prosecute it. I agree with Hon. Murugara and you that the issue of missing children, defilement and murder of children is rising. As...

We expect a preliminary response on 2nd July 2026 next week. That is in order. Hon. Kamket, do you want to contribute on the same Statement?

Hon. Kamket, you can also raise your concern because the Chairman has indicated that the Cabinet Secretary and the security agencies will appear before the Committee this week. You have not raised this issue on the Floor of the House officially. Liaise with the Chairman of the Committee. You can...

Very well. You have made your point, Hon. Owen. I have indulged you because this is a topical issue. It is a matter of concern. As a country, we must do something about it. Hon. Tongoyo and his team can hear the sentiments of Members. We expect a better report...

Hon. Mulyungi will be the last Member to contribute on this Statement.

Hon. Chairman, you have your work cut out. There are some issues that Hon. Millie has raised, which require a desktop review because the prosecution and the Judiciary all tie together. If someone is suspected of killing a child and the matter does not reach a conclusive end through imprisonment...

Kindly make timely communication to the affected Members for planning purposes. The next Request for a Statement is by the Member for Saboti. Are you in the House? AWARD OF FOREIGN SCHOLARSHIPS TO KENYAN STUDENTS

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education is not in the House. What about the Vice-Chairperson?

Order, Hon. Millie. Hon. Clive is a member of the Committee. He has spoken as a member of the Departmental Committee on Education. Hon. Caleb, first week after recess.

First week after we resume. Hon. Amina. STATE OF ELECTRICITY INFRASTRUCTURE IN MALINDI CONSTITUENCY

Very well. That goes to the Departmental Committee on Energy. The chairperson is not in the House. Hon. Mandazi, are you holding brief?

We will now indulge the Member for Kilgoris. INSECURITY AT ANGATA BARRIKOI IN KILGORIS CONSTITUENCY

Hon. Members, I know this is a live matter. I will give chance to a few Members who want to ride on that Statement. Before that, like I had indicated earlier, we have a lot of learners visiting us today. Allow me to recognise, in the Speaker's Gallery, students from:...

Very well. I now give the Member for Chepalungu, Hon. Mandazi this opportunity to contribute to the Request for a Statement by Hon. Sunkuli, and not regarding the schools.

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security, I know your plate is full but this is also an

There should be no death, whether of a resident or a police officer. Bring the response next week on Thursday. Next are responses to requests for Statements. Is Hon. Zamzam in the House? If not, the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security will table the response...

Hon. Raso. (Hon. David Keter raised his hand) Member for Emurua Dikirr, I am only indulging you because you are new in the House. I know that this matter affects you. Because you are new here, I will give you a minute.

Very well. That is an additional request to the Chairperson. Hon. Raso, kindly prosecute the response. STATEMENTS DEMISE OF MR SHADRACK KIENGE MAKEMBO

Very well. Hon. Murugara, are you satisfied? Do you have any follow-up questions?

Hon. Raso, you have heard the Member's concerns.

Hon. Murugara, the Vice-Chairman, has spoken for you, and that also begs the question of why we present half-baked responses from the Cabinet Secretaries. I have also heard that the Committee is meeting with the Cabinet Secretary on several issues. This should form part of it so that you receive...

Hon. Murugara, you have made your point. Hon. Tongoyo and your team, the meeting with the Cabinet Secretary for the Ministry of Interior and National Administration as well as the security agencies, is quite critical. Alert the Members in good time so that they can attend and prosecute their matters...

Thank you, Hon. Murugara. Hon. Ngogoyo.

Hon. Ngogoyo, the conversation was on this Floor. Hon. Tonui, the new Chair of the Committee, do you have the response? There was a commitment to bring the response because it was urgent.

We are done with Statements. Next Order. THE COUNTY ALLOCATION OF REVENUE BILL Hon. Members, we will re-organise the Order Paper. Orders No. 9 and 10 shall be deferred from today’s proceedings. We shall, therefore, proceed to Order No. 11. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE IN THE COMMITTEE THE FISHERIES...

Sergeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Leader of the Majority Party represented by Hon. Chepkonga.

Very well. Next Order. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS We have a few requests as indicated in the Order Paper. We will begin with the Member for Suba South, Hon. Caroli. 18th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 1 Hon. Caroli, I have given you the chance, but you are on your phone.

You are totally out of order. REQUESTS FOR STATEMENTS IMPORTATION OF REFINED SUGAR INTO THE COUNTRY

Very well. This goes to the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock. Chairperson. Give, Hon. Justice the microphone. Hon. Justice Kemei (Sigowet/Soin, UDA) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for the opportunity to respond. The Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock, including the Chair, are on duty in Mombasa and...

Take two weeks,

The next request for Statement is by the Member for Tiaty, Hon. Kamket.

Hon. Justice, are you a Member of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning? Hon. Justice Kemei (Sigowet/Soin, UDA) : No. Do you want to ride on it?

You have made your point. Hon. Ngikolong, proceed. Nicholas Ng’ikor (Turkana East, JP) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The request for Statement by Hon. Kamket, and the way Hon. Justice has put it, reminds us of the reason as to why the Equalisation Fund was included in the Constitution...

Hon. Members, I know this is a thorny issue. That is why I have indulged a few of you. Please, do not make long speeches. I will give opportunity to Hon. Lochakapong.

Member for Elgeyo Marakwet.

Very well. Next is the Member for Ndhiwa. 18th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 5

Thank you. Member for Endebess.

Member for Chepalungu, are you holding brief for the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning?

Very well. Member for Tharaka.

Hon. Members, I have indulged many of you, and I know this is a thorny issue. I still see some interest. Please, keep it very short because I want you to ride on the question by Hon. Kamket so that we get to the end of this problem. It has...

Very well. Hon. Shakeel, proceed.

Hon. Emathe.

You have made your point. I had already directed that you will be the last one. Hon. Members we have had enough representation of the Members. This matter has become repetitive. Hon. Kamket, you are the owner of the Statement. What is out of order?

We are headed there, Hon. Kamket, because we have indulged very many Members and I see there is still a lot of interest in this matter. This Statement will not do justice if it is just going to speak about Baringo or to 18th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 8...

That is reasonable so that we do not get any excuse for him not to appear. The first, or, latest, second week after recess will do. Hon. Members, let us also endeavour to be in the House when that is communicated. Those questions that you are asking, that will be...

Hon. Makali Mulu, that is a fair question. Give me some time as we move to Order No. 8. We will give you a response on the same. Next Order. THE SUPPLEMENTARY APPROPRIATION (NO. 2) BILL Chairman of the Budget and Appropriations Committee.

Hon. Member for Endebess.

Very well. (Question proposed)

Hon. Members, I see there is a lot of interest in the Bill. Allow me to give this opportunity to the Hon. Member for Moiben Constituency. Is she in the House? Go ahead, Hon. Member for Kajiado North Constituency.

Member for Baringo North.

Do you want to be informed by Hon. Osoro.

Order, Hon. Osoro. Do not debate. You were to inform Hon. Makilap, and not to debate. Take your seat, Hon. Osoro. Hon. Members, I will give all of you a chance to speak. Hon. Makilap.

For Hon. Makilap to say you will be a future president? 18th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 12

Order, Hon. Members! Hon. Gisairo, Hon. Osoro is not on his feet. You rose on a point of order to say that Hon. Makilap should not say you will be a future president. That is not out of order. Hon. Makilap, kindly wind up.

Members for Funyula and Kajiado West, your interventions are not on this. Hon. Members, if you want to speak to this Bill, indicate in the intervention button because Hon. Members have logged in. Use the intervention because so many of you are listed and you do not intend to speak...

Very well. Hon. Engineer Nzengu.

Hold on, Hon. (Eng.) Nzengu. Take your seat for a minute. There is a point of order from the Member for Endebess. 18th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 13

Hon. Nzengu.

It is not in Murang’a. Get your facts right. Hon. (Eng) Paul Nzengu (Mwingi North, WDM) : Let me correct myself. It is the Northern Collector Tunnel, which is in Murang’a. When we visited that project, it was the same story of the host community not benefiting from the project...

Order, Members. We agreed that shouting will not sort out our issues. I am very fair and I will give every person a chance to speak. (Hon. Onesmus Ngogoyo stood up in his place) Order, Hon. Ngogoyo. Take your seat. (Hon. Onesmus Ngogoyo spoke off the record) Hon. Ngogoyo, I...

No, I am not sending anyone out. Do not do the Speaker’s work. (Hon. Onesmus Ngogoyo spoke off the record) Hon. Ngogoyo, I will give you an opportunity.

Hon. Kalasinga, what is out of order? (Hon. Onesmus Ngogoyo spoke off the record) It is not only you, Hon. Ngogoyo, who is raising a point of order. Other Members are also raising points of order. I will indulge Hon. Kalasinga first. 18th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 15

Hon. Murugara.

Hon. Ngogoyo, I know there is a lot of confusion about what happened yesterday and what is going on today. Be guided that yesterday was the Report which is very different from what we are dealing with today. This Bill has just been moved today. Yesterday, it was something different....

Hon. Members, I need to clarify to the House on something. Yesterday’s Motion was: The Consideration of the Supplementary Estimates for the Financial Year 2025/2026, general debate: THAT, this House adopts the Report of the Budget and Appropriations Committee on the consideration of the same. So, even the Members who...

We are doing very well. I will now give the chance to the Member for Suba South, Hon. Caroli.

Very well, Hon. Members. There is a lot of interest in this matter. Kindly do not raise your hands. I can see you on the screen. If Members keep their contributions brief, a lot of us will speak. Hon. Member for Kitui Central, Hon. Makali Mulu.

Order, Hon. Rutto. Hon. Members, we had done very well. Hon. Makali Mulu, treat that as a point of information which you have not agreed to. Continue with your submission. It is a point of debate.

Hon. Member for Mavoko. He seems not to be in. Let us have the Member for Kitui rural.

Hon. Members, order. You cannot purport to do the Speaker's job at all. Hon. Member for Kitui Rural, you are on the Floor. Hon. David Mwalika (Kitui Rural, WDM) : I have been seated here since yesterday, but I will request Members to look at the clauses critically. Being a...

Hon. Member for Soy, you have made your point. I have not heard what is really out of order. Member for Kigumo, did you mislead the House on the matter Member for Soy has raised?

Hon. Munyoro, I am engaging you because I heard you, but I also heard the Member for Soy. What you are saying is that the debate we are having right now does not hold any water yet it is also in our mandate as a House. I think that is...

That is in order, please, continue with your submissions. (Hon. Wanami Wamboka consulted loudly) Hon. Wamboka you are shouting that someone is raising his or her voice. Everyone is shouting and sometimes, even the Temporary Speaker is unable to hear exactly what to rule on. Can we just have decorum?...

Order, Hon. Members. A Member’s point of information must be accepted. You do not have to impute improper motive on your colleague. Just refuse the information.

Hon. Members, Order. Order, Hon. Chepkonga. Do not shout across the aisle. I have already said that you cannot be shouting. My screen is full with many names of Members who want to contribute, but we keep wasting time on non-issues. If you rise on a point of order, make...

Member for Kesses, a point of information has to be accepted. Hon. Munyoro, do you want to be informed? Hon. Rutto, you said it is a point of information. Hon. Member for Kesses, I am indulging you because you are the Vice-Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National...

You have made your point. Members, please, stick to matters that we are able to substantiate.

Order, Member for Kigumo. The Members on my left have also been interfering with the Members on the other side. On the other hand, points of order raised under Standing Order 83 are legitimate and allowed. Kindly complete your submission.

Very well. Finally, from my left, let us have the Member for Makueni. Thereafter, we will go to the other side.

What is out of order, Hon. Makilap? 17th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 34

You have made your point. Proceed, Member for Makueni. (Loud consultations)

Hon. Members, that demonstrates how readily you accept information without first hearing who is offering it. Hon. Wamboka, you have the Floor.

Order, Hon. Wamboka. Sit down.

Order, Hon. Members. (Hon. Antoney Kibagendi stood up in his place) Take your seat, Hon. Kibagendi.

Hon. DK is on a point of order.

Hon. Wamboka, Hon. Ndindi cannot inform you. You are not on the Floor. Proceed, Hon. DK.

Order. Hon. Members, I know we have very many views about so many issues. However, I beg you. There is a Member on the Floor who has accepted to be informed by Hon. Wamboka, but he said exactly what Hon. Susan said. He repeated what she had said. So, allow...

You have accepted the information. Member for Kiharu, proceed. 17th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 36

Order, Hon. Ndindi Nyoro. You have made your point. The reason I have allowed Hon. Suzanne to make her point is because I am inclined to allow many Members to speak because we are here for that debate. Hon. Members, my screen is still full. If we agree to make...

Your time is up, Member for Makueni. Hon. Members, before I give the next Member the Floor, allow me to recognise students from Siwot Girls Senior School from Kuresoi South Constituency, Nakuru County, seated in the Speaker's Gallery. On my behalf, that of the House and your Member of Parliament,...

Member for Ugenya. 17th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 38

Order, Members. Shouting does not add value to debate. Hon. Members, a Member has risen in his place and requested that the Speaker put the Question that the Mover be called upon to reply. I will now put that question. (Question, that the Mover be called upon to reply, put...

You cannot purport to request a division without meeting the required threshold. If you do so, you know the numbers required. (Loud consultations)(Loud consultations)(Loud consultations)(Loud consultations)(Loud consultations)

Order, Members. 17th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 40 (Loud consultations)

Order, Hon. Members. Our Standing Orders are very clear. The rise for Division was defeated because the Members on their feet were 14 against a required number of 30. The Mover has replied and I will, therefore, put the question. (Several Members spoke off the record) You do not need...

Hon. Members, we have counted the Members on their feet. They are 27. That request is, therefore, declined. (Loud consultations) THE KENYA REVENUE AUTHORITY (AMENDMENT) BILL Order, Hon. Members. We are now at Order No.9. Leader of the Majority Party? Who is moving Order No. 9?

Order, Hon. Members. Hold on, Hon. Osoro. I know many of you really want to be thrown out of this chamber. I am not doing it. Give Hon. Osoro a chance to finish up. We only have two minutes. (Loud consultations)

Order, Hon. Members. Hon. Kimani, hold your horse. (Loud consultations) ADJOURNMENT Hon. Members, the time being exactly 1.00 p.m., this House stands adjourned until Wednesday, 17th June 2026 at 2.30 p.m. (The House rose at 1.00 p.m.) 17th June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 42 Prepared by: Directorate of Hansard and...

Sergeant-at-Arms, ring the Sergeant-at-Arms, halt the ringing Deputy Leader of the Majority Party.

Next Order. STATEMENTS REQUESTS FOR STATEMENTS MEASURES TO FORESTALL OUTBREAK OF EBOLA AND HANTAVIRUS DISEASES The first request is by Hon. Machua Waithaka. Is he in the House? He is not in the House. That one is deferred. 3rd June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 1 CONSTRUCTION OF MAU MAU ROAD...

That one goes to the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure. Is the Chairperson present? Hon. Kibet, are you holding brief for the Chairperson?

Very well. Next Order. (Hon. John Waithaka raised his hand) Hon. Machua, I will indulge you but you will apologise for coming late. We will go back to Order No.7. 3rd June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 2 MEASURES TO FORESTALL OUTBREAK OF EBOLA AND HANTAVIRUS DISEASES I give you this...

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health, when will you bring the response?

Therefore, I direct that

Next Order. PROCEDURAL MOTION EXEMPTION OF CERTAIN BUSINESS FROM STANDING ORDER 40(3)

Proceed, Hon. Makali Mulu.

Hon. Pukose.

Let us have Hon. Makali Mulu.

Very well. Vice Chair, Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security, Hon. Dido Raso.

Before the next speaker, allow me to recognise schools that are seated in the Public Gallery. They are: St. Simon’s Mbui Nzau Secondary School, Kibwezi West Constituency, Makueni County; St. Joseph International School, Makadara Constituency, Nairobi City County; and Lakewood Emerald School, Kajiado East Constituency, Kajiado County. You are all...

Very well. The Member for North Imenti.

Member for Marsabit County, Hon. Waqo.

Sergeant-at-Arms, ring the Sergeant-at-Arms, halt the ringing Deputy Leader of the Majority Party.

Next Order. STATEMENTS REQUESTS FOR STATEMENTS MEASURES TO FORESTALL OUTBREAK OF EBOLA AND HANTAVIRUS DISEASES The first request is by Hon. Machua Waithaka. Is he in the House? He is not in the House. That one is deferred. 3rd June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 1 CONSTRUCTION OF MAU MAU ROAD...

That one goes to the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure. Is the Chairperson present? Hon. Kibet, are you holding brief for the Chairperson?

Very well. Next Order. (Hon. John Waithaka raised his hand) Hon. Machua, I will indulge you but you will apologise for coming late. We will go back to Order No.7. 3rd June 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 2 MEASURES TO FORESTALL OUTBREAK OF EBOLA AND HANTAVIRUS DISEASES I give you this...

Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Health, when will you bring the response?

Therefore, I direct that

Next Order. PROCEDURAL MOTION EXEMPTION OF CERTAIN BUSINESS FROM STANDING ORDER 40(3)

Proceed, Hon. Makali Mulu.

Hon. Pukose.

Let us have Hon. Makali Mulu.

Very well. Vice Chair, Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Security, Hon. Dido Raso.

Before the next speaker, allow me to recognise schools that are seated in the Public Gallery. They are: St. Simon’s Mbui Nzau Secondary School, Kibwezi West Constituency, Makueni County; St. Joseph International School, Makadara Constituency, Nairobi City County; and Lakewood Emerald School, Kajiado East Constituency, Kajiado County. You are all...

Very well. The Member for North Imenti.

Member for Marsabit County, Hon. Waqo.

Very well. Hon. Members, this Adjournment Motion has been moved pursuant to Standing Order 33. Every Member shall have strictly five minutes, unless by leave of the House. Hon. Caroli.

Very well. Member for Kiharu.

That has been dealt with. (Loud consultations)

Hon. Members, can we debate with decorum. Let us debate with decorum.

Hon. Member, you have made your point. Member for Kiharu, you certainly know the rules of this House. You know what is parliamentary and what is not. Do not throw aspersions to your colleagues.

Member for Kiharu, a point of order has been raised on you calling a Member ignorant. I certainly agree with the Hon. Member that you cannot possibly call a Member ignorant. (Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah spoke off the record) Please do not assist me, Hon. Members. Hon. Member for Kiharu, withdraw...

I will give a chance to the Leader of the Majority Party, followed by the Whip of the Minority.

You have made your point. 26th May 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 32

You have made your point. Hon. Millie.

No Member is ignorant. I am with you, Hon. Millie. Hon. Junet?

Hon. Members, I have heard all of you. The one thing I agree with is what the Leader of the Majority Party and all of you have said. We must maintain decorum in this House. We do not have to all agree, by the way. Member for Kiharu, on one...

Leader of the Majority Party. 26th May 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 34

You have made your point, Leader of the Majority Party. Let the Member for Kiharu Constituency respond and finish his contribution.

Let us have the Member for Ndhiwa.

Very well. Leader of the Minority Party.

Hon. Members, when we started the debate, I guided that the Motion falls under Standing Order 33; therefore, Members’ contributions are limited to five minutes. However, allow me to use my discretion to give Hon. Junet five more minutes. The Leader of the Majority Party will have 10 minutes to...

You have made your point. Leader of the Majority Party.

Order, the Leader of the Majority Party. Hon. Caroli, what is out of order?

I am also trying to listen to you. I heard you debate, and you gave your point of view. Allow the Hon. Member also to debate unless something is totally out of order. Leader of the Majority Party, proceed.

Order. Member for Kiharu, I heard Hon. Caroli give examples and their points of debate. Allow Members to give examples as they deem fit for their submission.

Member for Kikuyu, I have been told by the Whip of the Minority Party that girls from Alliance Girls’ High School are waiting for you back here. Wind up, please.

Your time is up. The next chance will go to the Member for Malava, Hon. Ndakwa. Your card has been malfunctioning.

Your time is up. I had already given direction, Hon. Member. Let us utilise five minutes so that all of you can get to speak. Hon. Member for Magarini.

Asante sana. Mhe. Benard Kitur, Mbunge wa Milima ya Nandi.

Very well. Hon. KJ. (A Member spoke off the record) Hon. KJ is from Dagoretti.

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro, what is out of order? 26th May 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 44

Your time is up. Member for Embakasi West.

Let us have the Member for Busia County.

You have made your point. Hon. Omanyo, this is a House of debate.

Member for Kiharu.

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro and Members, we agreed we will debate with decorum. I also caution Hon. Ndindi not to cast aspersions on Hon. Omanyo. Hon. Omanyo, you have five minutes. You can choose to keep referring to Hon. Ndindi Nyoro’s proposals or put forward yours in your submissions.

Very well. Member for Marakwet West.

Your time is up. Hon. Nabii.

Very well. Member of Mogotio.

Your time is up, Member for Mogotio. I know you are seated with the Member for Kiharu. You have confirmed you are friends. I want to indulge the Member for Machakos, Hon. Kamene, to make her submission.

Chair of the Departmental Committee on Energy, Hon Gikaria.

We are contributing for five minutes. Member for Nairobi City County.

Hon. Mawathe.

Hon. Lelmengit.

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Very well. Hon. Members, this Adjournment Motion has been moved pursuant to Standing Order 33. Every Member shall have strictly five minutes, unless by leave of the House. Hon. Caroli.

Very well. Member for Kiharu.

That has been dealt with. (Loud consultations)

Hon. Members, can we debate with decorum. Let us debate with decorum.

Hon. Member, you have made your point. Member for Kiharu, you certainly know the rules of this House. You know what is parliamentary and what is not. Do not throw aspersions to your colleagues.

Member for Kiharu, a point of order has been raised on you calling a Member ignorant. I certainly agree with the Hon. Member that you cannot possibly call a Member ignorant. (Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah spoke off the record) Please do not assist me, Hon. Members. Hon. Member for Kiharu, withdraw...

I will give a chance to the Leader of the Majority Party, followed by the Whip of the Minority.

You have made your point. 26th May 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 32

You have made your point. Hon. Millie.

No Member is ignorant. I am with you, Hon. Millie. Hon. Junet?

Hon. Members, I have heard all of you. The one thing I agree with is what the Leader of the Majority Party and all of you have said. We must maintain decorum in this House. We do not have to all agree, by the way. Member for Kiharu, on one...

Leader of the Majority Party. 26th May 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 34

You have made your point, Leader of the Majority Party. Let the Member for Kiharu Constituency respond and finish his contribution.

Let us have the Member for Ndhiwa.

Very well. Leader of the Minority Party.

Hon. Members, when we started the debate, I guided that the Motion falls under Standing Order 33; therefore, Members’ contributions are limited to five minutes. However, allow me to use my discretion to give Hon. Junet five more minutes. The Leader of the Majority Party will have 10 minutes to...

You have made your point. Leader of the Majority Party.

Order, the Leader of the Majority Party. Hon. Caroli, what is out of order?

I am also trying to listen to you. I heard you debate, and you gave your point of view. Allow the Hon. Member also to debate unless something is totally out of order. Leader of the Majority Party, proceed.

Order. Member for Kiharu, I heard Hon. Caroli give examples and their points of debate. Allow Members to give examples as they deem fit for their submission.

Member for Kikuyu, I have been told by the Whip of the Minority Party that girls from Alliance Girls’ High School are waiting for you back here. Wind up, please.

Your time is up. The next chance will go to the Member for Malava, Hon. Ndakwa. Your card has been malfunctioning.

Your time is up. I had already given direction, Hon. Member. Let us utilise five minutes so that all of you can get to speak. Hon. Member for Magarini.

Asante sana. Mhe. Benard Kitur, Mbunge wa Milima ya Nandi.

Very well. Hon. KJ. (A Member spoke off the record) Hon. KJ is from Dagoretti.

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro, what is out of order? 26th May 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 44

Your time is up. Member for Embakasi West.

Let us have the Member for Busia County.

You have made your point. Hon. Omanyo, this is a House of debate.

Member for Kiharu.

Hon. Ndindi Nyoro and Members, we agreed we will debate with decorum. I also caution Hon. Ndindi not to cast aspersions on Hon. Omanyo. Hon. Omanyo, you have five minutes. You can choose to keep referring to Hon. Ndindi Nyoro’s proposals or put forward yours in your submissions.

Very well. Member for Marakwet West.

Your time is up. Hon. Nabii.

Very well. Member of Mogotio.

Your time is up, Member for Mogotio. I know you are seated with the Member for Kiharu. You have confirmed you are friends. I want to indulge the Member for Machakos, Hon. Kamene, to make her submission.

Chair of the Departmental Committee on Energy, Hon Gikaria.

We are contributing for five minutes. Member for Nairobi City County.

Hon. Mawathe.

Hon. Lelmengit.

Hon. Members, the time being 26th May 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 54 Published by Clerk of the National Assembly Parliament Buildings NAIROBI 26th May 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 55

Give the microphone to

That was very short. (Hon. Kuria Kimani and Hon. Gitonga Mukunji consulted loudly) Order, Hon. KK and Hon. Mukunji. Hon. Members, I now propose the Question. (Question proposed) (Hon. Joseph Makilap spoke off the record) Hon. Makilap, you are shouting from the wrong place. Hon. Parashina, are you interested in...

Next is the Member for Funyula but he is not in the Chamber. Hon. Members, I do not see any more interest on this Bill. Proceed, Leader of the Majority Party.

Member for Funyula, I am told that you are back. Please, proceed.

Very well. Next is the Member for Manyatta.

Hon. Mayaka, proceed.

Hon. Makilap.

Very well. Member for Baringo County.

Hon. Members, there appears to be no further interest in this Bill. I will call upon the Mover to reply.

Chairperson, Hon. Gachobe, report

Mover.

Mover.

The Member for Kuresoi South is also from Nakuru. (Hon. Joseph Tonui spoke off the record) You are not on record, Hon. Mwalimu. Give him the microphone. There you have it. Do not move away.

Very well. Next Order. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE BY CANCER PATIENTS Hon. Members, this is an ongoing debate. Is there a Member who was on their feet? The debate on this Motion was adjourned, and no Member was left on pause. If you intend to speak to...

Very well. Next is Hon. Kimani Kuria.

Asante sana. Mbunge wa Malindi, nakupa nafasi hii labda utasaidia kuendeleza Kiswahili.

Asante sana Mheshimiwa wa Malindi. Sina uhakika kama lugha hii ya Kiswahili ikifika Bondo itaendelea. (Kicheko) Mhe. Ochanda, nimesema kwamba sina uhakika kuwa lugha hii ikifika Bondo kama itaendelea. (Kicheko) Lakini nimejulishwa kuwa hata hujaelewa ninasema nini. (Kicheko) Mheshimiwa wa Bondo, nafasi ni yako.

Very well. Hon. Makali Mulu.

Very well. Hon. Mayaka.

Member for Nyeri Town.

Thank you. Your time is up. Hon. Members, we have an adjournment Motion at exactly 5.30 p.m. That is why we shall not add any more time to any speaker. Hon. Jessica Mbalu.

Hon. Gachobe.

Member for Kabondo Kasipul. Hon. Eve, I have been informed that you have already contributed to this Motion. You are the one who moved that the debate be adjourned under Standing Order 96. So, I will indulge you to be the last contributor on this.

Very well. Hon. Members, I see there is still interest in this Motion. As you recall earlier, the time being 5.32 p.m., there was an appointed time for the Adjournment Motion by Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu to be moved at MOTION OF ADJOURNMENT ON A MATTER OF URGENT NATIONAL IMPORTANCE...

Very well, Member for Moiben Constituency. Not on this. Member for Nandi Hills Constituency, Hon. Bernard Kitur.

Very well. Member for Nyeri Town, Hon. Mathenge.

You can also use an example of Eburu in Gilgil, which never gets anything from energy.

Let us have the Member for Matungulu.

Members, the Mover should reply to the Bill in two minutes, but I will indulge the Member for Chuka/Igambang’ombe. If you keep your contribution short, we will be on time. Hon. Patrick Ntwiga (Chuka/Igambang’ombe, UDA) : I will keep it short, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support the Bill....

Very well. We shall defer putting the question on this Bill to the next appointed time. (Putting the question deferred) Next Order. THE PREVENTION OF LIVESTOCK AND PRODUCE THEFT BILL Hon. Nzambia was on the Floor. He had a balance of six minutes. I do not see him in the...

Very well. Hon. Mwangi Kiunjuri.

The next chance goes to the Member for Marsabit County, Hon. Waqo.

Very well. Member for South Imenti.

Member for Samburu County, Hon. Pauline.

Hon. Mathenge.

Very well. Member for Magarini. Mhe. Harrison Kombe (Magarini, ODM) : Asante, Mhe. Spika wa Muda, kwa kunipa nafasi nami nipate kuongeza sauti yangu kwa Mswada huu. Ni Mswada ambao umekuja wakati unaofaa. Hakika wafugaji wengi wamepoteza mifugo yao hasa wale ambao wako Magarini. Wamepoteza mifugo yao kupitia kwa majirani...

Very well. Member for Chuka/Igambangómbe. Hon. Patrick Ntwiga (Chuka/Igambangómbe, UDA) : Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. You know speaking after Hon. Kombe you are tempted to speak in Kiswahili, but I might embarrass myself. Only do it at your own risk.

Member for Manyatta.

Hon. Kawanjiku, what is out of order?

There is a point of order by Hon. Kawanjiku.

Hon. Mukunji.

Hon. Mukunji, I heard you clearly. However, the issue raised by Hon. Kawanjiku is on your statement about the status of the House. That is the issue I would want you to respond to.

Member for Nyeri Town, you are not being fair at all. He is in order to talk about things that are happening in his county, including his constituency. Hon. Mukunji, take your time. Keep to the rules and the Standing Orders. You are doing well so far.

Members, there is no one on the Floor. Why are you raising points of order? Hon. Mukunji was actually done. There is nothing out of order right now and there is no one on the Floor. Listening to Hon. Mukunji, he did not say that we are impeaching the Cabinet...

Member for Wajir West, proceed.

Member for Wajir, you cannot purport to donate time. You are not the Mover of the Bill. However, I note that there is still considerable interest in this Bill. Allow me to give Hon. Karemba two minutes. Hon. John Paul will also have two minutes, considering what is currently happening...

Member for Borabu, proceed. 22nd April 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 31

Member for Langata, proceed.

I now call upon the Mover to reply.

Members, for obvious reasons, I defer putting the question on this Bill. (Putting the question deferred) 22nd April 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 33 ADJOURNMENT Members, the time being 1.00 p.m., the House stands adjourned until 2.30. p.m. (The House rose at1.00 p.m.) 22nd April 2026 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 34 Published...