MURUGARA GEORGE GITONGA

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. Maybe, Senior Counsel Otiende Amollo has not yet seen the Supplementary Order Paper. The matter is listed for debate today, but his plea is valid. Members should be informed about the contents of the Bill and the report and...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following papers on the Table: Reports of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs on its Consideration of:

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, taking into consideration the findings of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs in its report on the Approval Hearing of Nominees for Appointment as the Chairperson and Members of the Public...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I have not received a response. However, I will make an enquiry so that we can respond to the request for a Statement. It should not take long.

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I have not received a response. In fact, I was not notified. I will make enquiries so that we can respond to the request for Statement as soon as we can.

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Tharaka is my constituency, and Tharaka-Nithi is my County although both names are suitable, especially with my aspirations now to move to Tharaka-Nithi County. 11th June 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 48 Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA)Allow me to...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to second. (Question proposed)

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support this very important Bill that has emanated from the Senate. I must commend the Senate. For the first time, we are debating something serious from that House. Most of the time they have been...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I wish the two other speakers who contributed immensely to the Bill were here to hear some of the points in the reply. Hon. Peter Kaluma and Hon. Toroitich have just left. However, it will be in The...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) I am talking about the wording of the Political Parties Act.

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you very much. You are articulating so well. The first problem is, if there were 30 independents, they have nothing in common. If there are any ideologies, there are 30 different ideologies. The fund does not fund individuals. It only funds political parties. There...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) No problem. He can inform me.

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you very much. I do not disagree. Unfortunately, this is Kenya and we are talking about the laws of Kenya. I have started by saying we will have to amend the Constitution and the Act. When we have not done so, we can only...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) What do we do with the constitutional provision on political party funding and the formula of what they are supposed to get? We will also have to look at that so that we do not err.

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) All right. As I conclude, there will be room to propose amendments. The amendments have to be in consonance with constitutional provisions so that we do not have to make a statute that is possibly not going to see light of day when it goes...

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. Allow me to also join the rest of the House and Kenyans in conveying condolences to the family of the late Albert Ojwang’. It is, indeed, sad to lose such a young man under unclear circumstances. This has put the integrity of our National...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. Allow me to also join the rest of the House and Kenyans in conveying condolences to the family of the late Albert Ojwang’. It is, indeed, sad to lose such a young man under unclear circumstances. This has put...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. We shared a class with Hon. Letipila at the great Moi High School, Kabarak, when it was named that way and I take this opportunity to welcome the students of that great school from the Rift Valley. I know they have maintained it ever since those...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Speaker. We shared a class with Hon. Letipila at the great Moi High School, Kabarak, when it was named that way and I take this opportunity to welcome the students of that great school from the Rift Valley. I know they have...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, taking into consideration the findings of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs in its report on the vetting of nominees for appointment as chairperson and members of the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission,...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) No, she is a youth as required in law. The impression was that at 32, when she appeared, we thought she was in her 20s. Otherwise, she is 32 years old, and extremely knowledgeable. (Hon. Junet Mohamed spoke off the record)

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) That is not a point of qualification to be considered, Hon. Junet. Although Hon. Farah kept on repeating that one, and some Members found it quite curious. When he gets a turn to speak, he will possibly speak on it. But this young lady has...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you. Hon. Farah, the operative word is “wives”. The wives are watching, not the wife. However, he observed it and let him just tell us something about it. This young lady has worked right from her days after university with the Lamu County. She...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I join you in acknowledging all the Members who have spoken and thanking them for their very valuable contributions. I know many of them would have also loved to say something about either all the nominated Commissioners or a...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Let me begin by thanking Hon. Atandi and his Committee for the work well done. I know they went deep into the night trying to cobble these figures so that we can have this 4th June 2025 NATIONAL...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. What is the Ksh100 billion supposed to do? This is very important. Number one, we have to recruit additional judges. Pursuant to this, an advertisement has been issued to recruit 20 High Court judges and 15 Court of...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs on its consideration of the Report on Approval Hearings of Nominees for Appointment as Chairperson and Members of the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) . Thank you...

Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I join the rest of the House and Kenyans in eulogising this great man of the Republic of Kenya. I commend you because on the day after he passed on, you took time to inform the media that instead of writing headlines about non-issues,...

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to also support the adoption of the Report. Once we ratify this Treaty, it becomes part and parcel of our domestic laws and binds us as a country. There is a pending Treaty-Making and Ratification (Amendment) Bill. Its purpose is to...

It is purely because the line he is taking is like moving the Motion while this is supposed to be a reply. A reply is a response to what the contributors have said and where you feel you need to clarify, otherwise, the line he has taken is like he...

Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Allow me to second the Political Parties (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill (Senate Bill No. 26 of 2024) , from the Senate. It has been ably moved by the Deputy Leader of the Majority Party, and from his speech, Members have learnt what this...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table: Report of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs on its consideration of the Report on Approval Hearings of Nominees for Appointment as Chairperson and Members of the Independent Electoral and Boundaries...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Hon. Speaker, I beg to give notice of the following Motion: THAT, taking into consideration the findings of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs in its report on the Vetting of Nominees for Appointment as Chairperson and Members of the Independent Electoral and...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker. I join the rest of the House and Kenyans in eulogising this great man of the Republic of Kenya. I commend you because on the day after he passed on, you took time to inform the media that instead...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to also support the adoption of the Report. Once we ratify this Treaty, it becomes part and parcel of our domestic laws and binds us as a country. There is a pending Treaty-Making and Ratification (Amendment)...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) It is purely because the line he is taking is like moving the Motion while this is supposed to be a reply. A reply is a response to what the 3rd June 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 44 Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA)contributors have said and...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Allow me to second the Political Parties (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill (Senate Bill No. 26 of 2024) , from the Senate. It has been ably moved by the Deputy Leader of the Majority Party, and from his speech,...

I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs on its consideration of the following: Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker.

Throw him out. It is gross disorder! Thank you, Hon…

Hon. Chairlady, the reservation which has been brought to us may be valid to some extent, but we wish to note that it applies to duties that the public officer may actually have in the future. This is for everybody to note, and it is subject to debate which we...

Thank you, Hon. Chairlady. It is good that we make a comment on this. It exactly says that a register will be maintained of all persons that receive gifts including when a judge comes to visit my court and sometimes they come with their mothers, because sometimes it is nice...

Thank you, Hon. Chairlady. Again, this is another interesting proposal. Public officers, including judges, must know that you cannot buy shares in a bank where your employer banks. This is what is being prohibited. Now that the provision is being reinstated through Presidential Reservation, we will pass it. But it...

Thank you. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole House has considered… Hon. Chairman, let me invite you again. I was not on record. Hon. Chairperson, please proceed. Thank you very much. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the President’s Reservations to the Anti- Money Laundering and Combating of Terrorism Financing Laws (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly No.5 of 2025) and approved the same without amendments.

In respect of Order No.11, I confirm that is the position. Kindly let it be stood down to next week. We will be ready with all the reports. Members will read and be able to debate the proposed amendments to the Act. Thank you very much.

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table: Reports of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs on its consideration of the following:

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Throw him out. It is gross disorder! Thank you, Hon…

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Hon. Chairlady, the reservation which has been brought to us may be valid to some extent, but we wish to note that it applies to duties that the public officer may actually have in the future. This is for everybody to note, and it is...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Chairlady. It is good that we make a comment on this. It exactly says that a register will be maintained of all persons that receive gifts including when a judge comes to visit my court and sometimes they come with their mothers,...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you, Hon. Chairlady. Again, this is another interesting proposal. Public officers, including judges, must know that you cannot buy 29th May 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 18 Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA)shares in a bank where your employer banks. This is what is being prohibited....

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole House has considered…

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you very much. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the President’s reservation to the Conflict of Interest Bill, National Assembly Bill No.12 of 2023 and approved the same without amendments.

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to report that the Committee of the whole House has considered the President’s Reservations to the Anti- Money Laundering and Combating of Terrorism Financing Laws (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly No.5 of 2025) and approved the same without amendments.

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) In respect of Order No.11, I confirm that is the position. Kindly let it be stood down to next week. We will be ready with all the reports. 29th May 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 25 Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA)Members will read and be able...

Thank you very much for allowing me to jump into the boat to welcome the young students both in the Public Gallery and the Speaker's Gallery. I am pointing out Kyeni Girls from Embu, Tumutumu Girls High School from Nyeri, and the other school from Navakholo. All these great girls'...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you very much for allowing me to jump into the boat to welcome the young students both in the Public Gallery and the Speaker's Gallery. I am pointing out Kyeni Girls from Embu, Tumutumu Girls High School from Nyeri, and the other school from...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) Thank you very much, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I also rise to support this Motion which is highly merited, as we debate this afternoon. The correct position is that 2007 and early 2008 were years that we do not wish to remember. For the first time,...

Hon. George Murugara (Tharaka, UDA) We may proceed because we believe the subject of this discussion is not alone in this. We have been told that some of us are suffering from mental issues. This is a demonstration of such a case, possibly, when you just go out of the...