ICHUNG’WAH ANTONY KIMANI

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Allow me to convey my sincere condolences to the Odinga family — Mama Ida Odinga, their children and the extended family. I was privileged and honoured to be part of the delegation that travelled 16th October 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 5 to India to repatriate the...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. To conclude that, the ideals and belief and defence of our democracy, the belief in reconciliation and dialogue, but most importantly, having a strong and united country because Raila Odinga truly believed in a united and prosperous Kenya, where we all have shared prosperity. Raila Odinga...

Yes, in the shortest time possible. Yes, that is correct.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I beg to move the following Motion: THAT, following the Presidential Proclamation issued today, 15th October 2025, regarding the passing on of the Rt. Hon. Raila Amolo Odinga, EGH, the former Prime Minister of the Republic of Kenya, and pursuant to the provisions of Standing Orders...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Let me begin from where Hon. Kaguchia has stopped. First, as Members of Parliament, we have a duty and responsibility bestowed upon us by the Constitution to oversee the Executive. That is what Hon. Makali Mulu was speaking about. He referred to me and said that...

Hon. Speaker. Hon. Speaker, I just wanted to add a word to the Vice-Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure. That he should probably consider pushing the Ministry to get that contractor… Since the Moi days, M/S Nyoro Construction Limited is known not to complete any road projects....

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the Privatisation Bill (National Assembly Bill No.36 of 2025) be now read a Third Time. I request Hon. Naomi Waqo to second. But before she does, allow me to thank Hon. Members who were here at least up to 9 p.m. last...

It must be a point of Order, not just a nuisance.

What is the point of Order there? That is a point of argument.

Hon. Wanjiku Muhia was not present in the House. I only mentioned Members who shout in funerals and street rallies but are never here to legislate. The Member for Kipipiri was not in attendance and has no understanding of what this Bill entails. She has no idea of "share dilution."...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I want Hon. Wanjiku Muhia to listen to me. Share dilution is 'reducing' in layman's language - from 35 per cent to 25 per cent - in the case of Safaricom. New Clause 76 is an amendment to the Public Finance Management Act, which states that any...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to give the following Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee, which met on Tuesday, 7th October 2025, to prioritise business for consideration during the week. On Tuesday, next week, the House is...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I am also nomadic.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. I support this amendment and thank the Committee because, in line with the Mwongozo Code of Governance for State corporations, very many CEOs in many state corporations have had tenures that are beyond three years against the Mwongozo Code of Governance. Therefore, this proposal, reducing...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I want to support that particular amendment. I agree with Hon. Oundo that he is literally covered by the amendment by the Committee. The language in this Bill is very good. I must commend the drafters of this Bill because it says within our specified period of...

He is doing a good job. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : I assigned him to be under your pupillage. He is simply proposing that Clause 26 be amended as was provided for in the Order Paper and a further amendment as proposed by Hon. Oundo. This is to...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I wanted to support the amendment, but allow me to oppose or rather convince Hon. Oundo to allow us to carry the Committee’s proposal of four years. The medium-term planning of our budget cycle is done every three years. These programmes are brought to Parliament for approval....

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, maybe, I also need to allay the fears of Hon. Oundo, particularly in relation to the IPO he mentioned. He is a well-schooled person and must be aware that in this country, today, unlike in the past when one could simply walk into the Nairobi Stock Exchange...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to support this particular amendment, especially on the question of valuation, and not just the financial status or financial position of the entity seeking to be privatised. We remember the debates on the Sessional Paper on the Kenya Pipeline IPO and the public discourse that...

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, Hon. Oundo has a point. However, if you read the provision in Clause 38, it talks about a business and asset valuation. If you are holding some beneficial ownership of shares at the Nairobi Stock Exchange, it is either part of your business or your assets. Therefore,...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairlady. This is a very good amendment because it creates clarity on where the proceeds will go. Clause 49 had suggested that proceeds from the sale of a public entity be deposited into a special interest-bearing account established for that entity’s privatisation, with the funds to...

Hon. Temporary Chairman, that is actually the position. If you read the old Clause 10, you realise Clause 10A is just giving some logical flow to the same qualifications. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon. Martha Wangari) : Hon. Kasim, are you on this? No, he is not. The Temporary Chairlady (Hon....

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the House reports its consideration of the Privatisation Bill, (National Assembly Bill No.36 of 2025) , and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (The House resumed) IN THE HOUSE [The Temporary Speaker (Hon. Farah Maalim) in...

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I also request Hon. Oundo to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Temporary Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Privatisation Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 36 of 2025) , and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) (The House resumed) IN THE HOUSE [The Temporary...

Hon. Temporary Speaker I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said Report. I also request Hon. Kirima to second the Motion for agreement with the Report of the Committee of the Whole House. (Hon. Moses Kirima spoke off the record)

Hon. Temporary, I beg your indulgence to move this debate to tomorrow. We defer this debate to tomorrow.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I, again, beg your indulgence because the Chairperson of this particular Committee and the Chairperson of the Committee on Regional Integration... Hon. Temporary Speaker, this Chairperson is involved in another parliamentary engagement this evening and, therefore, I beg your indulgence.

Hon. Chairman. Hon. Temporary Speaker, sorry! I was used to the Committee of the whole House addressing the Chairman. Again, the Chairperson of this Committee is engaged in that meeting of chairpersons and, therefore, he is not available. Defer the Motion to tomorrow afternoon. Yes.

Yes, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I know there is a meeting of the Liaison Committee involving many chairpersons. Yes.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, Dr Nyikal is a very diligent Chairperson and Member of this House. He was here up to about 7.30 p.m. when he went for that meeting. That is the only reason why Dr Nyikal is not here.

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I saw, at least, three Members led by Hon. Abdul, walking out when you were on your feet. When the Speaker is on their feet, Members should watch their movement. Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the Virtual Asset Service Providers Bill (National Assembly Bill...

Hon. Deputy Speaker, he requested me to do this for him. I beg to move that the Kenya Roads (Amendment) (No. 3) Bill, National Assembly Bill No. 34 of 2025, be now read a Third Time. I also request Hon. (Dr) Nyikal to second.

Hon. Deputy Speaker, I beg your indulgence regarding Order No.10 on Committee of the whole House, on the Privatization Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 36 of 2025) . I kindly request that we step this down for today because several Members have approached me about their need to file amendments....

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I apologise for jumping the gun. As I indicated earlier, several Members have approached me and your office, expressing their wish to file further amendments on the Privatization Bill. Therefore, I invite all Members who wish to file amendments to do so by the close...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. First, allow me to thank KENCO for that very timely Petition. I must also commend you for committing that particular Petition to the Departmental Committee on Health. The issues that they have raised are very pertinent, and they will be better addressed by the specific...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to give the following Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee, which met on Tuesday, 30th September 2025, to prioritise business for consideration during the week. With regards to business scheduled...

That is okay, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I beg to support this particular amendment. It is good because it is designating the classified roads and ensuring that Kenyans know, for instance, the expressway is a national Government Class A road under the charge of the national Government for maintenance. This will ensure...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I thank Members for this Bill, especially Members of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning. Hon. Mboni and the Chairperson have withstood a lot of heat in consideration of this Bill. As the Chairperson was saying, this is a completely new area for...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 44 (2) (a) , I rise to give the following Statement on behalf of the House Business Committee, which met on Tuesday, 30th September 2025, to prioritise business for consideration during the week. With regards to business scheduled...

That is okay, Hon. Temporary Speaker.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I beg to support this particular amendment. It is good because it is designating the classified roads and ensuring that Kenyans know, for instance, the expressway is a national Government Class A road under the charge of the national Government for maintenance. This will ensure...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I thank Members for this Bill, especially Members of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning. Hon. Mboni and the Chairperson have withstood a lot of heat in consideration of this Bill. 2nd October 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 65 As the Chairperson was saying,...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise to support the Motion on consideration of the Sessional Paper on the initial public offer (IPO) of the Kenya Pipeline Company (KPC) Limited that was moved by the Chair of the Privatisation Committee just before the short recess. A lot had been said about...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I beg to move that the Privatisation Bill (National Assembly Bill No. 36 of 2025) be now read a Second Time. By way of introduction, it is important to note that this is a very critical legislative initiative that presents a conscious recalibration of our...

On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Temporary Speaker, you can also freeze Hon. Otiende’s time because I just need...

The issue Hon. (Dr) Otiende is raising, and you have alluded to it, is critical to public participation. You have clearly read the provisions of Article 118 of the Constitution. I wanted Hon. (Dr) Otiende to help the House as a senior counsel. When the Constitution explicitly provides for public...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. 1st October 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 39 (Loud consultations)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, on a light note, ten voices cannot compete with Hon. TJ Kajwang’s voice. Democracy is about numbers. Therefore, the “Ayes” had it because there were more people saying “Ayes” than Hon. Kajwang’ and Hon. (Dr) Nyikal. Hon. Temporary Speaker, allow me to thank all the Members who...

Yes, let me conclude. I am sorry, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I forgot to look at the time. Two minutes and I am done. I was concluding on Section 53 on tribunals, saying that the publication of the Tribunals Bill is underway. It will create a distinction between the quasi-judicial and...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the House: No.156 of 2025 Relating to the Kenya Roads Board Fund No.159 of 2025, Relating to the National Police Service Hon. Speaker, with your indulgence, allow me to register my profound gratitude to yourself, as the...

Hon. Chairlady, I beg to move the clause with one slight correction. The Order Paper reads, “…is amended in sub-section (3) ”. That should read “…in sub-section 1 (d) ”. With that correction, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 2 be deleted and replaced with the following new clause— (Question,...

Hon. Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Air Passenger Service Charge (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 35 of 2025) , and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Bowen Kangogo to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Air Passenger Service Charge (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 35 of 2025) , be now read a Third Time. I request Hon. CPA Rutto to second.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support this Report of the Public Investments Committee on Social Services, Administration and Agriculture. Upon reviewing this Report, it is evident that the Committee dedicated considerable man-hours to examining audited reports from various financial years, some dating back to 2013-2014, as Hon....

We must not use a public elective office as a laundry for laundering or cleaning people who have pilfered public funds. The former CEO of NHIF must answer to those issues. Hon. Wanjala, you must ensure that, through the Committee on Implementation, Jeff Mwangi, the former CEO, answers for that...

I hear Hon. Raphael Wanjala saying he has taken up the challenge. I hope we will see people in court. I just want to confirm that whatever he has said is not on record at all. Leader of the Majority Party, go on. Hon. Kimani Ichung'wah (Kikuyu, UDA) : I...

Then above the knee and then at the hip.

But we know it was outright theft. Again, those are some of the issues I want to challenge the Committee to ensure that in line with the recommendation that they have put, since the Social Health Authority (SHA) is taking up the work of the defunct NHIF, moves with speed...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of the House: 30th September 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 2 including taking care of orphans – and I can hear the Member for Taveta whispering - also taking care of all your ex-girlfriends! This is on a light...

Hon. Chairlady, I beg to move the clause with one slight correction. The Order Paper reads, “…is amended in sub-section (3) ”. That should read “…in sub-section 1 (d) ”. With that correction, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 2 be deleted and replaced with the following new clause—

Hon. Chairlady, I beg to move that the Committee do report to the House its consideration of the Air Passenger Service Charge (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 35 of 2025) , and its approval thereof with amendments. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to)

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. I request Hon. Bowen Kangogo to second the Motion for agreement with the report of the Committee of the whole House.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the Air Passenger Service Charge (Amendment) Bill, (National Assembly Bill No. 35 of 2025) , be now read a Third Time. I request Hon. CPA Rutto to second.

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support this Report of the Public Investments Committee on Social Services, Administration and Agriculture. Upon reviewing this Report, it is evident that the Committee dedicated considerable man-hours to examining audited reports from various financial years, some dating back to 2013-2014, as Hon....

We must not use a public elective office as a laundry for laundering or cleaning people who have pilfered public funds. The former CEO of NHIF must answer to those issues. Hon. Wanjala, you must ensure that, through the Committee on Implementation, Jeff Mwangi, the former CEO, answers for that...

I hear Hon. Raphael Wanjala saying he has taken up the challenge. I hope we will see people in court. I hope he will have an opportunity to speak to this issue so that he not only says in his position that he has taken up a challenge, but confirms...

Then above the knee and then at the hip.

But we know it was outright theft. Again, those are some of the issues I want to challenge the Committee to ensure that in line with the recommendation that they have put, since the Social Health Authority (SHA) is taking up the work of the defunct NHIF, moves with speed...

Hon. Speaker, I beg to move the following Motion: 19th August 2025 NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DEBATES 8 THAT, notwithstanding the Resolutions of the House of 13th February 2025 and 7th August 2025, and pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 28(4) (Calendar of the Assembly), this House resolves to further alter...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I will start from where Hon. Junet stopped. But before I do that, I must say that Hon. Millie has a very sharp eye. Hon. Njeri passed in front of me but unfortunately I did not notice anything. You can be certain that if Hon. Njeri...