Osotsi Godfrey Otieno

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi

Hon. Deputy Speaker, we continue to grapple with very unfair application of the rules of this House; that people will bring irrelevant discussions when they are making contributions, but people only rise to object when others do it. Let me begin by saying I am very proud that I was...

Sen. Sifuna Edwin Watenya.

Sen. OsotsiThey have even forgotten that Members of the County Assemblies (MCAs) also have a role to do primary oversight. I expect the Secretariat to have a programme to create awareness to the people of Busia--- July 24, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 30 Sen. Osotsi They have even forgotten that Members...

Sen. Osotsi

Order, Sen. Boni Khalwale and Sen. Ali Roba.

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi Sen. Methu, in 30 seconds, finish, please.

Sen. Osotsi Proceed.

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi What is your point of order, Sen. Cherarkey. July 22, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 55 Sen. Osotsi Works, Housing, and Urban Development or the National Land Commission and give it to this Authority? That must be looked into because this is another area that land grabbers will come in...

Sen. Osotsi, Sen. Methu has something to inform you about what you are debating. Sen. Osotsi Sen. Methu calls me a cousin, so let me allow him to.

This new arrangement is very good; now Sen. Osotsi can trust--- Madam Temporary Speaker, I just wanted to inform him in the spirit of what he is proposing, that he would want professionals to take roles on a profession that they are professionals in. I have just googled the Chairperson...

Is there a relationship between that information and what you were debating? July 22, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 56 Sen. Osotsi Madam Temporary Speaker, I am using Standing Order No.105 of the Senate Standing Orders and Article 10 of the Constitution of Kenya, 2010. One of the reasons is even regional...

Sen Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi What is the point of order, Senator for Meru County?

Sen. Bonni, please proceed.

Sen. Osotsi

Proceed, Sen. Boni. June 10, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 8

Sen. Osotsi Proceed, Sen. Boni.

According to our custom you do not argue with your younger brother. If you are fighting over land and you are older, it is better for you to leave that piece of land and go and find another piece of land; buy it, but you do not fight with your...

can we not develop another micro formula that justifies another county getting Kshs200 million and another one getting Kshs100 million. People are going to shift positions. We had agreed that we were not going to disturb the formula, but now the issue of financial responsibility is coming. People are now...

Sen. Mungatana, if you have not finished, you will have a balance of eight minutes to conclude. ADJOURNMENT June 5, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 53

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi Order, Senators, can we listen, please. Sen. (Dr.) Murango, please, order! (Loud Consultations) June 5, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 47

Order, Senators, can we listen, please. Sen. (Dr.) Murango, please, order! Sen. Osotsi Madam Temporary Speaker, we needed to get somewhere in the middle. That is why, we came up with a figure of Kshs4.5 billion. So, the figure of Kshs4.5 billion is like a stabilisation factor between the formula...

Unfortunately, these agreements that we made in the Kamukunji seem to have disappeared or dissipated somewhere along the way. (Loud consultations)

Madam Temporary Speaker, we agreed as a principle that we are going to make sure that no county loses any money. In that Kamukunji, we also agreed that, okay, there are 11 counties which were read out to us and let us add Kshs2 billion, so that we can support...

Sen. Omogeni and your team, you are actually too loud.

Your time is up. I add you one minute to conclude. Sen. Osotsi Our biggest battle is the Kshs465 billion allocation, as there is no justification why counties should not be added money. Counties are now burdened with the Housing Levy, the enhanced National Social Security Fund (NSSF) contributions, the...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to contribute. When this Motion was first introduced, and the Chairperson of the Finance and Budget Committee intended to move it, I was among the many Senators who persuaded him not to proceed. Instead, we advocated for a Kamkunji or...

Order, Senators.

Sen. Osotsi Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I would like to comment on the statement by Sen. Eddy Oketch regarding insurance coverage for hospital assets. This statement emanates from audit queries before the County Public Investments and Special Funds Committee (CPISFC) regarding the issue of plant, property and equipment...

Sen. Osotsi What are these constraints that the Ministry is facing, particularly in disbursing the money under additional allocation that we passed in the Disbursement Schedule last week? Secondly---

Sen. Osotsi Thank you Mr. Speaker, Sir. Let me start by congratulating the CS for the good work he is doing at the National Treasury and Economic Planning. Indeed, you are the expert that we have been talking about. I have two quick questions. One is that the CS has...

Sen. Mo Fire, take your seat. COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM KIGUMO BENDERA HIGH SCHOOL, MURANG’A COUNTY

Sen. Osotsi Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have a very important matter to raise. Standing Order No.38 allows us to temporarily suspend a sitting. The practice has been that when we have a matter of serious importance like the one we are about to discuss, so that we can give us...

Sen. Osotsi Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I have just pressed my button now, but I have no problem being the first one. Mr. Speaker, Sir, this exercise that we are doing is only done once in five years. That means this formula will be with us for five years...

Sen. Osotsi Mr. Speaker, Sir, yes, he is the Chairperson of the Committee. He can give me information, but I also have very crucial information. (Laughter)

Sen. Osotsi Mr. Speaker, Sir, the numbers are based on Kshs405 billion. Remember, I started by saying the Committee should have done us a favour by also publishing the simulation based on the CRA formula, which they did not do. We have gone ahead to get the simulation ourselves. Let...

Sen. Osotsi Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am very thorough in what I do. I have done my research very well.

Sen. Osotsi: As you demonstrate, pick one big county or three that have also lost, because a number of counties--- Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am just demonstrating the points here.

As you demonstrate, pick one big county or three that have also lost, because a number of counties--- Sen. Osotsi I am demonstrating the point here using the counties that I have listed, but I have done the simulation for all the 47 counties---

Under the CRA formula, are the 11 counties the only ones losing? Sen. Osotsi There are counties which are losing under CRA. I am trying to say is that even as we go for another formula, let us not have a huge loss from the CRA formula compared to the...

Proceed. Sen. OsotsiMr. Speaker, Sir, I am saying that because the formula that the Committee is proposing to us has two components. It is taking Kshs387 billion, which was based on the Third Basis as a base, and then sharing the remaining Kshs12 billion and applying a basic share in...

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. OsotsiMadam Temporary Speaker, when you talk about the Employment Act, the amendment to this is basically trying to define the keywords like who is an employee, who is an employer and other terms like business process outsourcing. It also sets out the obligation of business process outsourcing companies. These...

Hon. Senators, there is no other speaker. I would like to thank Sen. Osotsi for your contribution to this Bill. This debate can continue tomorrow. ADJOURNMENT June 3, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 54