Osotsi Godfrey Otieno

Sen. Osotsi Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, you know we are in this House because we are supposed to---

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi(Loud Consultations) (Loud Consultations)

There will be no point of order. Proceed, Sen. Osotsi. Sen. Osotsi Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have communications from relevant sources, including a statement made by the former head of the Ethics and Anti- Corruption Commission (EACC) , Mr. Mumo Matemu, who clearly stated that this country was losing...

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi Mr. Speaker Sir, I do not want his point of information.

Sen. Osotsi Mr. Speaker Sir, just for guidance, you know you and I are coming from the other House where, every Member who rises on a point of order must point out the Standing Order on which he is rising. Otherwise, we are going to have frivolous points of orders...

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi(Loud consultations) (Applause)

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, what is out of order? Also, quote the Standing Order that you are standing on.

Sen. Osotsi Sen. Sifuna, kindly give him time to put his point.

Sen. Osotsi(Applause) October 5, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 49 Sen. Osotsi The Deputy speaker (

I want to make a quick ruling. I will consult the HANSARD and we will give direction of what should happen by tomorrow afternoon. (Applause) Sen. Osotsi Sen. Cherargei, I have been here for the past three and a half hours and now we are almost approaching four hours. Members...

Sen. OsotsiI represented a constituency - Kajiado East Constituency - for two terms in the National Assembly. Therefore, I know the importance of the CDF at the constituency level. I can for sure vouch for the Members of the National Assembly that the NG-CDF should be retained.There must be a...

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi Thank you, Sen. Orwoba.

Sen. Methu, I made a ruling. If you have any intervention, just press the button and wait until I allow you to speak. Sen. Osotsi Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30 p.m. There being no other business, the House stands adjourned until tomorrow, Thursday, 6th October, 2022, at 2.30 p.m....

Sen. Osotsi, I told you to proceed. What is the problem? Sen. Osotsi Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, to wind up my contribution, we had a lot of expectations when we went to listen to the President but some of us were disappointed. One of the expectations I had as a...

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Methu, what is out of order again? Please quote the Standing Orders.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we are trying to do what we are supposed to do. I would like to quote Standing Order No.117 (1) (e) which states that a Senator commits an act of gross disorderly conduct if the Senator deliberately gives false information to the Senate. Sen. Osotsi, a...

Sen. Sifuna, kindly give him time to put his point.

In my opinion, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Senator for Vihiga is completely out of order to mislead the House that the President, in his address, did not touch on corruption.

Sen. Osotsi, kindly conclude. You have 30 seconds to finish. Sen. Osotsi Mr. Speaker, Sir, to wind up, my last point is that the President, in his Speech, recommended that Ministries should adjust their budgets to save Kshs300 billion in order to support the savings programme. We would like to...

Your time is up. Sen. Korir, did you have a point of order? If not, Sen. Cherargei, please proceed.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, there is an issue that was raised on the Floor of the House. Looking at Standing Order Nos.121 and 122, I am sure that you will make a ruling on this matter tomorrow in the afternoon. It is not wise and fair for Members, even with...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, you should not to be merciful. The only mercy is by Jesus Christ. Any other mercy is imported. So, if a Member makes unsubstantiated allegations on the Floor of the House, deal with them firmly and ruthlessly. We are not somewhere in Vihiga County.In fact, instead...

Sen. Cherargei, I have been here for the past three and a half hours and now we are almost approaching four hours. Members here will agree with me that I have done well this being my first time on this Chair. (Applause) (Laughter)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise to support the Motion on the Presidential Address to both Houses of Parliament. I heard Sen. Osotsi say that the President did not expound on the bottom-up economic model that the ‘Hustler Movement’ has been talking about to mwananchi. I thought it is good...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President mentioned and also emphasized on affordable housing, and this has been elaborated in the presidential speech. All Kenyans, according to the Constitution, deserve and have the right to live in affordable and decent houses. That is why the President appealed to both Houses to...

I represented a constituency - Kajiado East Constituency - for two terms in the National Assembly. Therefore, I know the importance of the CDF at the constituency level. I can for sure vouch for the Members of the National Assembly that the NG-CDF should be retained.There must be a way...

You have just used the time that was allocated for you precisely. Sen. Orwoba, proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity. I want to mention a few things about the President’s Speech, particularly, about the Kshs50 billion Hustler’s Fund. One of the observations that have previously been made in this House on the funds that have been there, is that they are...

“My administration will allocate Kshs50 billion every year to the Hustlers’ Fund from the micro small and medium enterprises so that they can access affordable credit to start and expand their businesses.”For Uwezo Fund, we were being encouraged to apply for it as groups and money was distributed. However, there...

Thank you, Sen. Orwoba. October 5, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 55 ADJOURNMENT

Sen. Osotsi Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, I thought the Motion is about the Presidential speech, not the Deputy President.

Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30 p.m. There being no other business, the House stands adjourned until tomorrow, Thursday, 6th October, 2022, at 2.30 p.m. The Senate rose at 6.30 p.m. October 5, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 56

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi Mr. Speaker Sir, I do not want his point of information.

Sen. Osotsi Mr. Speaker Sir, just for guidance, you know you and I are coming from the other House where, every Member who rises on a point of order must point out the Standing Order on which he is rising. Otherwise, we are going to have frivolous points of orders...

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi(Loud consultations) (Applause)

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, what is out of order? Also, quote the Standing Order that you are standing on.

Sen. Osotsi Sen. Sifuna, kindly give him time to put his point.

Sen. Osotsi(Applause) October 5, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 49 Sen. Osotsi The Deputy speaker (

I want to make a quick ruling. I will consult the HANSARD and we will give direction of what should happen by tomorrow afternoon. (Applause) Sen. Osotsi Sen. Cherargei, I have been here for the past three and a half hours and now we are almost approaching four hours. Members...

Sen. OsotsiI represented a constituency - Kajiado East Constituency - for two terms in the National Assembly. Therefore, I know the importance of the CDF at the constituency level. I can for sure vouch for the Members of the National Assembly that the NG-CDF should be retained.There must be a...

Sen. Osotsi

Sen. Osotsi Thank you, Sen. Orwoba.

Sen. Methu, I made a ruling. If you have any intervention, just press the button and wait until I allow you to speak. Sen. Osotsi Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30 p.m. There being no other business, the House stands adjourned until tomorrow, Thursday, 6th October, 2022, at 2.30 p.m....

Sen. Osotsi, I told you to proceed. What is the problem? Sen. Osotsi Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, to wind up my contribution, we had a lot of expectations when we went to listen to the President but some of us were disappointed. One of the expectations I had as a...

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Methu, what is out of order again? Please quote the Standing Orders.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we are trying to do what we are supposed to do. I would like to quote Standing Order No.117 (1) (e) which states that a Senator commits an act of gross disorderly conduct if the Senator deliberately gives false information to the Senate. Sen. Osotsi, a...

Sen. Sifuna, kindly give him time to put his point.

In my opinion, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Senator for Vihiga is completely out of order to mislead the House that the President, in his address, did not touch on corruption.

Sen. Osotsi, kindly conclude. You have 30 seconds to finish. Sen. Osotsi Mr. Speaker, Sir, to wind up, my last point is that the President, in his Speech, recommended that Ministries should adjust their budgets to save Kshs300 billion in order to support the savings programme. We would like to...

Your time is up. Sen. Korir, did you have a point of order? If not, Sen. Cherargei, please proceed.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, there is an issue that was raised on the Floor of the House. Looking at Standing Order Nos.121 and 122, I am sure that you will make a ruling on this matter tomorrow in the afternoon. It is not wise and fair for Members, even with...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, you should not to be merciful. The only mercy is by Jesus Christ. Any other mercy is imported. So, if a Member makes unsubstantiated allegations on the Floor of the House, deal with them firmly and ruthlessly. We are not somewhere in Vihiga County.In fact, instead...

Sen. Cherargei, I have been here for the past three and a half hours and now we are almost approaching four hours. Members here will agree with me that I have done well this being my first time on this Chair. (Applause) (Laughter)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise to support the Motion on the Presidential Address to both Houses of Parliament. I heard Sen. Osotsi say that the President did not expound on the bottom-up economic model that the ‘Hustler Movement’ has been talking about to mwananchi. I thought it is good...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President mentioned and also emphasized on affordable housing, and this has been elaborated in the presidential speech. All Kenyans, according to the Constitution, deserve and have the right to live in affordable and decent houses. That is why the President appealed to both Houses to...

I represented a constituency - Kajiado East Constituency - for two terms in the National Assembly. Therefore, I know the importance of the CDF at the constituency level. I can for sure vouch for the Members of the National Assembly that the NG-CDF should be retained.There must be a way...

You have just used the time that was allocated for you precisely. Sen. Orwoba, proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity. I want to mention a few things about the President’s Speech, particularly, about the Kshs50 billion Hustler’s Fund. One of the observations that have previously been made in this House on the funds that have been there, is that they are...

“My administration will allocate Kshs50 billion every year to the Hustlers’ Fund from the micro small and medium enterprises so that they can access affordable credit to start and expand their businesses.”For Uwezo Fund, we were being encouraged to apply for it as groups and money was distributed. However, there...

Thank you, Sen. Orwoba. October 5, 2022 SENATE DEBATES 55 ADJOURNMENT

Sen. Osotsi Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, I thought the Motion is about the Presidential speech, not the Deputy President.

Sen. Osotsi Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is in that regard that I am asking for timeout, so that we have this matter discussed and agreed upon.

Sen. Osotsi You are acting like a hooligan and not a Senator!

Sen. Osotsi Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The House Business Committee is a very crucial Committee in any House. I served in the House Business Committee of the National Assembly for four sessions and I know that nothing happens in the House until the House Business Committee is constituted and...

Sen. Osotsi Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is in that regard that I am asking for timeout, so that we have this matter discussed and agreed upon.

Sen. Osotsi You are acting like a hooligan and not a Senator!

Sen. Osotsi Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The House Business Committee is a very crucial Committee in any House. I served in the House Business Committee of the National Assembly for four sessions and I know that nothing happens in the House until the House Business Committee is constituted and...