Veronica Waheti Nduati

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, it should be a point of clarification. I am concerned that in my system, it is set to show that it is Sen. Chimera seated on my machine. Is that in order that right now, when I am seated here waiting to submit on the Floor...

I tried logging-in, it did not work. They brought me the card.

I tried logging in even with the card. It still shows that it is Sen. Chimera seated on my desk. What is this game now? Come and make this system.

I am offended by that.

body. It is very sad that in this day and time, when we have technology that could assist in curbing crime, we have had more women suffering GBV case. We have also had cases of femicide, which remain unresolved.We must take an approach now as the committee looks into these...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. We are calling upon the Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration to ensure that these cases are resolved. I have looked at one of those cases where a woman was murdered in Kilimani and the case was in Nakuru. These cases remain unresolved. We look...

Hon. Senators, pursuant to Standing Order No.238 (1) , I commit the Petition to the Standing Committee on Education for consideration. Pursuant to Standing Order No. 238 (2) (a) , the Committee is required, in not more than 60 calendar days from the time of reading the prayer, to table...

Madam Temporary Speaker, this concept has now further been improved and it is now being formalised. These primary health workers, at the community level, are now going to be formally employed and they are going to have some little qualification to take care of our mothers, fathers and children at...

We used to recognise clinical officers or just dressers who are dressing wounds in the village as doctors, as we used to call them. Now, we are having people who have, at least, some primary training in healthcare to care for our mothers and children at that primary level. This...

I can see your time is up. I appreciate that those who were raised in the village tend to have a very deep sense of pride in their way of life, food and culture. I will give you one minute because I also grew up in the village so we...

Time is up. Proceed, Sen. Chute.

Madam Temporary Speaker, I want to thank you very much, for giving me the Floor. I wish to move: – ADOPTION OF REPORTS OF THE COMMITTEE ON DELEGATED LEGISLATION ON TRAFFIC RULES AND NTSA REGULATIONS Sen. Danson Mungatana, you have the Floor.

Who is seconding?

Sen. Maanzo, please.

Thank you, Senator. (Question proposed) Honourable Senators, this Motion is now open for contributions. I call upon Sen. Ole Kina.

Asante Mhe. Spika wa Muda. Kwanza, napinga kwa dhati. Jambo la kwanza, wanapotuambia kwamba watatengeneza vituo mbadala vya kukagua magari, tunajua wazi kuwa kuna watu ambao wanataka kujitafutia kazi kibinafsi. Walakini, kwa sababu serikali ina uwezo na hakuna kitu imeizuia kuzijenga, hebu ijenge vituo.

Thank you, Sen. Mundigi of Embu County. Sen. Murango, please, proceed.

Thank you, Hon. Senators. There are no more Senators willing to contribute to this Motion. So, I will call the Mover of this Motion, Sen. Danson Mungatana of Tana River County, to reply.

Hon. Senators, I now direct that the putting of the question will be deferred to the next sitting of Senate, especially with respect to the Motion that was under discussion. (Putting of the question on the Motion deferred) Clerk, can you call the next Order? We have a few minutes....

at the time of death. Every person has the right to access ART services by licensed experts. The informed consent must be mandatory.This law also focusses on access to information. It establishes ART registers and databases. It restricts disclosure of donor recipient identities. It provides that minors cannot access certain...

our experts on fertility matters have gone ahead. Now, it is possible to harvest eggs and sperms from two partners and find a third party to incubate the embryo and have a child.This is happening in Kenya and elsewhere in the world, where parliaments in those places have put in...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for the opportunity. I want to also reassert that it is important for the Cabinet Secretaries to take this session very seriously as an accountability platform both to the Senate and to the public. However, I want to distinguish the Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for this opportunity that you have given me. I would like to also thank the Committee Members, the Senators who sat in this Mediation Committee to negotiate how much should be allocated to the county governments. I believe they were protecting the interests of the...

Honourable Temporary Speaker, I withdraw that comment before you even intervene.

It is important to note that any excess revenue should be used to reduce borrowing and offset debts. I find this to be very optimistic of the Mediation Committee to have come up with that clause. It means they had an open mind that we may not only deal with...

Thank you, Sen. Ledama Olekina. (Interruption of debate on Motion) COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM GENDA MIXED SECONDARY SCHOOL, MURANG’A COUNTY

Sen. Tabitha and Sen. Mundigi, please, maintain order. Finalise, Sen. Consolata.

Sen. Consolata, you sound like you are reintroducing the cane from the Floor of Senate. Thank you, Sen. Consolata. Sen. Sifuna, please proceed. (Resumption of debate on Motion)

What is your point of order, Sen. Abdul?

Thank you, Sen. Abdul. Sen. Sifuna, you have made a sweeping allegation of the roof being changed every two weeks. Could you substantiate?

Sen. Sifuna, you may then proceed to withdraw that statement.

Then withdraw that statement.

Okay, proceed.

Thank you, Sen. Sifuna. Now we can have Sen. Abass.

Sen. Maanzo, I am giving you the opportunity with the request that you share that time with one more Member from the other side. Proceed and share with Sen. Sigei. Thank you.

Thank you, Sen. Maanzo. Proceed, Sen. Sigei.

Honourable Senators, it is now ADJOURNMENT Honourable Senators, it is now

Sen. Sifuna, would you like to be informed by our intelligent Sen. Beatrice?

Sen. Beatrice, you may proceed.

Sen. Sifuna, now you have the benefit of that information.

Sen. Sifuna, information is information, and you have been accorded that important information.

Thank you. You may also invite Sen. M. Kajwang’ to learn about the students and schools in Nairobi. Sen. Mungatana, proceed.

Thank you, Sen. Mungatana. Proceed, Sen. M. Kajwang’.

Sen. M. Kajwang’, sorry to interfere with you when you are on your feet. Please, move to the Dispatch Box because your microphone is not working well. (Sen. M. Kajwang’ moved to the Dispatch Box)

No, just continue from where you had reached.

Hon. Senators, I would like to acknowledge the presence in the public gallery this afternoon of a visiting delegation of 10 teachers and 77 students from Arnesens High School, Uasin Gishu County. The delegation is visiting the Senate for an academic exposition. On behalf of the Senate and on my...

Thank you very much. I now invite Sen. Onyonka to take the mic. (Resumption of debate on the Motion)

Honourable Deputy Speaker, I raise a point of order on accuracy of facts. Is the honourable Senator in order to indicate that the Governor of Wajir was crying because of having failed to do what he was supposed to do to the hospital and health infrastructure? In actual fact, he...

health care services in our respective counties? What do governors think about the right to health care for citizens?To be fair, the national Government has done a lot. It has even rolled out the Universal Health Coverage (UHC) programme to ensure citizens have access to health services. Unfortunately, counties are...

Thank you, Sen. Osotsi. Proceed, Sen. Mundigi.

Sen. Wakoli from Bungoma County, proceed. Sen. Wakoli from Bungoma County, proceed.

Hon. Senators, we have now concluded the debate because I do not see any other Senator interested in contributing to this Motion. I will defer this Motion so that the Mover can reply. So, it will be listed when we next sit. (Reply to the Motion deferred) Hon. Senators, for...

Thank you, Sen. Karen Nyamu. The putting of the question is now deferred. (Putting of the question on the Bill deferred) (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Temporary Speaker) Next Order. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON FOOD AND FEED SAFETY CONTROL COORDINATION BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.21 OF 2023) (Motion deferred)The Mover...

Yes. Madam Temporary Speaker, with those very many remarks, I beg to second. I thank you. (Question proposed) As Kenya Women Senators Association (KEWOSA), we will be taking measures because of the Gender-based violence (GBV) that has become rampant in our republic. I would like to ask the whole community...

Sen. Mariam, do not refer to me again as Mr. Speaker.

Time is up, Sen. Mariam. Proceed, Sen. Murgor.

Thank you, Senator. MESSAGE FROM THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DECISION OF THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY ON AMENDMENTS TO THE DIVISION OF REVENUE BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.2 OF 2026) THE ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT AND COORDINATION (AMENDMENT) BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.66 OF 2023)

You do not need to call a seconder because you have already replied.

Would you like to request the Speaker to defer the putting of the question?

I direct that we defer the putting of the question be deferred to a later date. (Putting of the question on the Bill deferred) Next Order. I will reorganise the Order Paper, so that we move to Order No.29. Sen. Mariam on behalf of the Chairperson Committee on Health, proceed.

Sen. Mariam Omar, you first have to abide for the Speaker to allow you to move the Motion in an amended version. I hereby allow you to proceed and move the Motion in an amended form. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON OVERSIGHT NETWORKING ENGAGEMENTS IN KITUI, MAKUENI AND MACHAKOS COUNTIES

Sen. (Dr.) Mungatana, you may proceed.

Sen. Danson, just to bring to your attention, the Motion was moved in an amended version to include Kiambu, Bungoma and Kakamega counties.

Honourable Senators, as I call you to contribute, make contributions on this Motion, please note that the amended Motion consolidated agenda 29, 30 and 31 that brings into purview all the counties that I have read out in that question. Honourable Senators, the Motion is now open for debate. Proceed,...

Give her the microphone.

Thank you, Sen. Tabitha, for those moving remarks. Sen. Ogola, please proceed.

Sen. Ogola, when the House resumes you will have a balance of 14 minutes to conclude your debate. ADJOURNMENT Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30

Yes. Madam Temporary Speaker, with those very many remarks, I beg to second. I thank you. (Question proposed) As Kenya Women Senators Association (KEWOSA), we will be taking measures because of the Gender-based violence (GBV) that has become rampant in our republic. I would like to ask the whole community...

Sen. Mariam, do not refer to me again as Mr. Speaker.

Time is up, Sen. Mariam. Proceed, Sen. Murgor.

Thank you, Senator. MESSAGE FROM THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY DECISION OF THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY ON AMENDMENTS TO THE DIVISION OF REVENUE BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.2 OF 2026) THE ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT AND COORDINATION (AMENDMENT) BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.66 OF 2023)

You do not need to call a seconder because you have already replied.

Would you like to request the Speaker to defer the putting of the question?

I direct that we defer the putting of the question be deferred to a later date. (Putting of the question on the Bill deferred) Next Order. I will reorganise the Order Paper, so that we move to Order No.29. Sen. Mariam on behalf of the Chairperson Committee on Health, proceed.

Sen. Mariam Omar, you first have to abide for the Speaker to allow you to move the Motion in an amended version. I hereby allow you to proceed and move the Motion in an amended form. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON OVERSIGHT NETWORKING ENGAGEMENTS IN KITUI, MAKUENI AND MACHAKOS COUNTIES

Sen. (Dr.) Mungatana, you may proceed.

Sen. Danson, just to bring to your attention, the Motion was moved in an amended version to include Kiambu, Bungoma and Kakamega counties.

Honourable Senators, as I call you to contribute, make contributions on this Motion, please note that the amended Motion consolidated agenda 29, 30 and 31 that brings into purview all the counties that I have read out in that question. Honourable Senators, the Motion is now open for debate. Proceed,...

Give her the microphone.

Thank you, Sen. Tabitha, for those moving remarks. Sen. Ogola, please proceed.

Sen. Ogola, when the House resumes you will have a balance of 14 minutes to conclude your debate. ADJOURNMENT Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30

Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I understand. DISCOVERY OF TWO CHILDREN’S BODIES AT KIAMA RIVER

Decide whether it is Madam Speaker or Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Okay.

Thank you, Sen. Mwenda Gataya. Sen. Alexander Mundigi, proceed. REPATRIATION OF REMAINS OF KENYANS WHO DIED IN A PLANE CRASH IN SOUTH SUDAN

Thank you, Sen. Joyce Korir. Sen. Mwenda Gataya, you have a statement?

Thank you, Sen. Mwenda Gataya. Sen. Alexander Mundigi, proceed. RESPONSE TO THE REQUEST FOR STATEMENT ON UNLAWFUL REMOVAL OF COUNTY ASSEMBLY STAFF FROM PAYROLL IN ISIOLO COUNTY

May, 14, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 39 PAPER LAID REPORT ON THE FOREST CONSERVATION AND MANAGEMENT AMENDMENT BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO. 38 OF 2025) ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMITTEE ON LABOUR AND SOCIAL WELFARE

Madam Temporary Speaker, thank you for this opportunity. I am reading a request for a statement on the expulsion of female recruits from the National Police College, Kiganjo, on account of pregnancy. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on National...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. This is a quarterly statement relating to the activities of the Standing Committee on Information, Communication and Technology for the period between February to April, 2026, pursuant to Standing Order No.56 (1) (b) of the Senate Standing Orders. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.56...

Thank you, Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe Ltumbesi. We are moving to statements pursuant to Standing Order No.56 (1) (b) . I want to call the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Energy, Sen. Kisang, to make a statement relating to the activities of the committee for the period February to April,...

Thank you, Sen. Kisang. The next is statement pursuant to Standing Order No.56 (1) (b) from the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Information, Communication and Technology relating to the activities of the committee for the period February to April 2026. Sen. Cherarkey, proceed, on behalf of the Chairperson. ACTIVITIES...

Yes, Madam Temporary Speaker. ACTIVITIES OF THE STANDING COMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY DEFENCE AND FOREIGN RELATIONS FOR FEBRUARY TO APRIL, 2026

Thank you, Sen. Mbugua. Do you have a report from the County Public Investments and Special Funds Committee (CPI&SFC) , so that you can finish with it?

You can make the statement relating to the activities of the CPI&SF for the period February to April, 2026. ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMITTEE ON COUNTY PUBLIC INVESTMENTS AND SPECIAL FUNDS

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to take this opportunity to thank you for the opportunity you have given me to reply on this very important Motion. I also want to take this opportunity to thank all the Senators who ably contributed to this Motion. This Motion is on the...

Sen. Ali Roba, Chairperson Standing Committee on Finance and Budget, proceed. Sen. Wambua, what is the point of order? (Loud consultations)

Hon. Senators, these are the results of the division on The Report of the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget on the Stoppage of Transfer of Funds to the County Government of Meru -

Sen. Wambua, the Senator for Meru County was the one who opened the Senate session at 2.30 p.m. today. He was Sen. Faki.

This Bill was passed by the National Assembly on the 29th of April 2026, and thereafter, referenced to the Senate for its consideration. Many may ask: What is the principal object of this Bill? This Bill seeks to amend The Forest Conservation and Management Bill. It aims to establish a...

Hon. Senators, this Motion is now open for debate. Senators, I want to make a determination that this is a matter affecting counties. I will, therefore, request the Serjeant-at-Arms to ring the Division Bell for one minute. Serjeant-at-Arms, please, proceed and ring the Division Bell for one minute. (The Division...

That is Order No.9, Majority Leader.

Thank you, Sen. Aaron. Sen. Mohamed Faki, you may proceed.

Sen. Faki, you will have a balance of 16 minutes when this Bill is listed again for debate. ADJOURNMENT Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30

Thank you, Sen. Eddy. I am trying to get the list of the speakers who are interested in contributing to this debate. Could the Clerk's desk assist with getting a display of those who are interested in contributing to this Bill?

Thank you, Sen. Joyce. Sen. Danson Maanzo, you are next.

Do we have a Mover for that Motion to adjourn debate?

Sen. Murgor, you can proceed to take the microphone.

Do we have a seconder, Sen. Murgor?

Sen. Maanzo, you may proceed. What is your point of order, Sen. Crystal?

Sen. Crystal, it is in order that we proceed with moving of the Motion, then the scheduling can be organised together with the Clerk's desk and the Senate Business Committee (SBC) . However, there is no harm in your proposal. So, we proceed to have the seconder of the Motion.

Thank you, Sen. Maanzo. (Question proposed) (Question, that debate on Bill be adjourned, put and agreed to) Hon. Senators I am looking at the Order Paper and from Order No.25 up to Order No.32, the Movers are not in the House and so we are not able to proceed with...

Honourable Speaker, let me correct that there is Sen. Okenyuri in the House, who is also on the Majority side. I thank Sen. Wakoli, our Whip, for ably moving that Motion which the Senate is considering moving down to Kilifi County to run its business for a week, in line...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I stand guided.

Thank you, Senator Kathuri. Very interesting debate. Sen. Cherarkey, hold on. (Interruption of debate on Bill) COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION OF YOUTH LEADERS FROM MURANG’A COUNTY I have a communication from the chair on a visiting delegation of youth leaders from Murang’a County. Honourable Senators, I would like...

Thank you, Sen. Joe Nyutu. (Resumption of debate on Bill) Sen. Cherarkey, you may proceed to second this Bill.

Sen. Cherarkey, could you clarify why you segregated and singled them out in your submissions?

Sen. Cherarkey, your eyes are encouraged to see more Senators, so that they feel that your submissions are more inclusive. Kindly proceed and conclude your deliberations.

Thank you, Sen. Cherarkey. Always very interesting in your debates. Hon. Senators, I now propose the question. (Question proposed) (Interruption of debate on Bill) COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR APOLOGY BY SEN. NYAMU FOLLOWING REMARKS WHILE WELCOMING STUDENT UNDERTAKING VSS PROGRAMME

Sen. Roba, what is your issue?

What is your point of order, Sen. Cherarkey?

Thank you, Sen. Cherarkey and Sen. Roba, for raising those objections. Sen. Karen Nyamu, I would like to guide you. The Speaker has given directions on the apology you are to tender to the Senate. This apology relates to a very young learner, and you know the effect that it...

Sen. Karen Nyamu, proceed to tender the apology. I did not allow Sen. Mandago to proceed with his request on a point of information, because there was no one on the Floor. Proceed. (Sen. Cherarkey and Sen. Mandago consulted loudly) Sen. Mandago, this House is guided, not by elders, but...

Sen. Kathuri Murungi, you mentor the other Senators as ranking Members of this House. That is recognised by the Standing Orders. You do not mentor outside the framework of the Standing Orders. So, I would like to guide you. Elders have their own space. You can have your own space...

Sen. Karen, just leave it at that. You may have your seat now. Hon. Senators, having considered the apology tendered by Sen. Karen Nyamu, MP. I hereby acknowledge and accept the same. I nonetheless caution you, as a state officer, going forward, to refrain from making any such disrespectful remarks....

What is your point of order, Sen. Roba? PROCEDURAL MOTION LIMITATION OF DEBATE ON BILL

Hon. Senators, there is a proposal for--- Proceed, Sen. Kathuri, the Mover of this Bill.

Sen. Kathuri, I agree with your clarification on the procedural matter. However, I will also guide you that it has been done procedurally because it has just been seconded and we have not proceeded to the next step. He just seconded and then I read Sen. Karen Nyamu's case and...

Sen. Cherarkey, no decision has been made yet. I only need to guide Sen. Roba to call the seconder of that Motion before we move into agreeing how the debate is limited. I am using my discretion as the Speaker. Proceed, Sen. Ali Roba.

If you want to contribute to that Motion, I will give you two minutes each to one Senator on this side and another on the other side and close that debate. Proceed, Sen. Faki.

Sen. Mandago, you cannot contribute to it. I am alerted you seconded. So, Sen. Cherarkey take your position.

Sen. Mandago, that will be the last clarification we have on this issue. Take a minute.

What is your point of order, Sen. Roba?

Sen. Cherarkey, do not go out of order by invoking the name of the President; you may look like you are dropping names to intimidate other Senators. Just put it within context when you are debating. Resume your seat because I am putting the question now. (Sen. Cherarkey stood up...

Sen. Mandago, thank you for seeking that clarification. Yes, the substantive Speaker of the House is Rt. Hon. Amason Jeffah Kingi. So, he tends to sign and papers are produced under his name. However, I confirm that the Speaker in control of the Senate Chamber today, this afternoon, is none...

Hold on Sen. Mundigi.