Sifuna Edwin Watenya

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, there is a clarification I am seeking from you. The House had already made a decision that there was some misbehaviour on the part of the Cabinet Secretary for National Treasury and Economic Planning. So, when you say that the Motion by the Senator for...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir. The request we are making is just that the process of approval should be faster than what we are witnessing. May 21, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 2

Sen. Sifuna Well guided, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Labour and Social Welfare on a matter of national concern regarding the state of affairs at the Kenya Rugby Union (KRU) . In the Statement, the...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, allow me to make a comment on the Statement that was brought by the Senator for Kajiado County, Sen. Seki. Just a few weeks ago - I think it is not more than a month - the Cabinet Secretary responsible for the environment was here...

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Sen. Sifuna Sen. Sifuna, unfortunately, it is not possible to deny Members to raise points of order when you are on the Floor. Maybe you should request them not to interrupt. (Loud consultations)

Sen. Sifuna, unfortunately, it is not possible to deny Members to raise points of order when you are on the Floor. Maybe you should request them not to interrupt. May 21, 2025 SENATE DEBATES Sen. Sifuna Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, under Standing Order No.121, you have powers to stop frivolous...

Sen. Sifuna, please, take your seat. I would like to listen to know if it is frivolous because I cannot determine before they speak.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is very rare to get a frivolous point of order from me. The only concern I have is that my friend Sen. Sifuna is extensively quoting a document that is not tabled. That is my only problem. It is like music to my ears. He...

That is a relevant point of order. You are referring to a document that is not circulated so that other Senators can have a look at it and also follow your debate. If you want to do that, please table it so that they get copies. Sen. Sifuna Mr. Deputy...

Sen. Wambua Enoch, please proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I like the parting shot by Sen. Sifuna. He is craving love from the Government so that he can love back. I am sure there is nothing out of order in that statement. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, from the onset, I would like to...

Housing Levy Fund, the National Social Security Fund (NSSF) and the County Aggregated Industrial Parks (CAIPs).These are policy decisions that have been taken at the national level, which policy decisions have a direct bearing on the revenues of county governments. When you say that you are going to allocate Kshs250...

Instead of saying that we will not give more money to counties because they will misappropriate the funds, go for the people that are misappropriating those funds and charge them in a court of law so that we do not punish Kenyans who are supposed to be enjoying the fruits...

government, the English used is very simple and basic, that it is at least 15 per cent. So the argument there should be that whatever you do, that allocation should not be less than 15 per cent of the nationally collected revenue.That 15 per cent is not a dictate. The...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity. I plead to switch languages, so that I communicate to Kenyans. Asante kwa nafasi hii ili nichangie kuhusiana na mapendekezo ya fedha ambazo zapaswa kwenda kwa kaunti. Seneti imejieleza wazi kwamba tunahitaji Shilingi bilioni 460 ili kugharamia changamoto na hali ya...

watoto wa mabwenyenye na matajiri ambao kwa shule zao za chekechea, wanaenda kwa magari na wanakunywa maziwa kwa chupa zilizoundwa sawasawa? Wanabembelezwa na kuimbiwa nyimbo za kulala, ilhali watoto wa mashinani wanakung’utwa na mbu pasipo wao kuwa na chochote ndani ya tumbo zao.Ninaomba tunapokata kauli--- Naibu wa Spika (

Sen. Sifuna I do not know why that directive is being given immediately I take the microphone, but I will take it in stride. Mr. Speaker, Sir, in his other life, the Cabinet Secretary and I used to agree on how this Hustler Fund needs to be treated. As of...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, why is the Senate Majority Leader heckling? You have given me the mic and he should allow me to say what I want to say. I promise to be--- Fortunately for the Senate Majority Leader, I was directed by my party leader to be...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this is unacceptable. I was asked to be nicer, but I will not allow this provocation to continue. (Sen. Cheruiyot spoke off record)

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, how is it in order for somebody who is younger than me to call himself my elder? Where does that happen? In which society? In this particular House, seniority does not come from how old you are, it is what is in your brain....

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, throw this guy out. Is Sen. Cheruiyot above the law?

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, he cannot heckle like this. (Loud consultations)

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this is unfair. If Sen. Sifuna behaved like this heckler from Kericho, I would have been thrown out by now. Can you apply the rules equally? Lastly, I wanted to say--- (Loud consultations) May 14, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 24 Sen. SifunaNo, throw him out....

Sen. Sifuna Let me conclude.

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, how can somebody who is out of order be given a point of order? He is already out of order. How can he stand up, unless the point of order is against himself?

Sen. Sifuna Hon. Temporary Speaker, you are determined to turn me back into the old me. You said he was heckling. A person who heckles is a heckler. That is what you call him. Sen. Cheruiyot of Kericho County was heckling me. He is a heckler. You have made that...

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Although the Cabinet Secretary was saying he is not in a hurry, we need to remind him that he came late and, therefore, that is the reason we are running out of time. He also knows the House rules; that there is...

Sen. Sifuna Yes, I understand that, Madam Temporary Speaker. I will say this for the record, the entire process for the processing of the claim was followed except that the county director refused to sign the certification for over a year. I have the form here and it has the...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations on a matter of county-wide concern regarding the parcel of land known as LR No.5871/2, situated near Thika Road Mall in Roysambu...

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I would like to take this opportunity on behalf of this House and the people of Nairobi to welcome our children who have visited us this afternoon. I hope you have the opportunity to interact with members of staff of the Senate, the...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, many of us in this House are not in the habit of interacting with things we have not read, unlike some people in other quarters that I do not want to mention. You find that someone has not read something, but they are an expert...

Sen. Sifuna Hon. Speaker, let me just comment on the Statement that has been read by the Senator for Busia County. This is a matter of grave national concern. Yesterday, there was a statement issued by the Governor for Kisumu County, the Hon. (Prof.) Peter Anyang’-Nyong’o, who is the strategic...

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, let me begin by saying that I do not know whether this thing called Broad-Based Government exists. I do not recognise any entity called Broad-Based Government. There is a Government of Kenya Kwanza under the leadership of President William Ruto. Every Cabinet Secretary who serves...

Sen. Sifuna Hon. Speaker, Sir, I beg to ask the Minister for Education the following Question.

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have one supplementary question, but before I ask it, I need some clarity on the answer that has been provided by the Cabinet Secretary. Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you have said that you are supplying a net payroll support of Kshs145 million. Knowing that the...

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Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, let me join my colleagues in extending our heartfelt condolences to the family of the late Charles Ong’ondo Were. This afternoon, led by the Speaker of the National Assembly, we had an occasion to pay our respects as his colleagues. He is lying at the...

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Sen. Sifuna Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.56 (1) (b) of the Senate Standing Orders to make a Statement relating to the activities of the Standing Committee on Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries during the first quarter of the Fourth Session, that is, January to April,...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget on a matter of countywide concern regarding the revenue generation in Trans Nzoia County Government. In the Statement, the Committee should address the following- RELOCATION AND...

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Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.52 (1) to make a statement on a matter of general topical concern, namely, the remarkable victory by the Kenya Women's Sevens rugby team, fondly known as the Kenya Lionesses, in the World Rugby HSBC Challenger 2025...

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Order, Hon. Senators! Sen. Sifuna knows where he comes from. He has stated that he comes from Nairobi City County. So, any other assertion is not factual. Therefore, that ought to be withdrawn. So, proceed with the withdrawal aspect, Sen. Karungo and conclude your remarks.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. It is only yesterday he was saying that his mother does not have network all the way from Western---

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Sen. Sifuna[The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) left the Chair] [The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) in the Chair] [The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) left the Chair] [The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) in the Chair] April 17, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 50 Sen. Sifuna that are raised locally by the county governments. It would be...

Thank you, Senator for Nairobi City County, the Hon. Sifuna. The putting of the Question on this particular Bill is deferred to a later date. (Putting of the Question on the Bill deferred) Next Order. THE SPORTS (AMENDMENT) (NO.2) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.45 OF 2024)

Sen. Chimera, please proceed.

Thank you, Hon. Speaker, Sir. I wish to move that the Sports (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill (Senate Bills No.45 of 2024) be now read a Second Time. I start by appreciating and thanking Sen. (Prof.) Ojienda for his generosity in allowing me to co-sponsor this Bill with him. When I...

River, who has just ably and eloquently spoken about the Bill as proposed by Sen. Sifuna, has also been on the forefront trying to organise basketball tournaments.Mr. Speaker, Sir, you had a chance to witness amazing football in Kwale County courtesy of Wakili Chimera Super Cup Initiatives that I have...

As I speak today, the Hon. Cabinet Secretary has just launched the Matuga Constituency Sports Academy at Matuga Girls. That speaks to life on this Bill. It shows that the Government has seen the need to promote talent by walking a step ahead in establishing these sports academies. With that,...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. As I rise to second the Sports (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No.45 of 2024) , I am impressed by the strides made by our in-law. During the Easter holidays in the village, I will ensure I pass this message to a good friend of mine,...

Such matters should be resolved because at the end of the day, county assemblies must function. They must do oversight.Mr. Speaker, Sir, your success story would not have been there without a functioning and reasonable county assembly. Therefore, we should also challenge MCAs to be part of this conversation.I am...

Hon. Senator, it is now 6.30 p.m. You have a balance of 11 minutes. When we resume, you will consume your 11 minutes. Let us be upstanding. April 17, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 56 ADJOURNMENT

Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30 p.m., time to adjourn the Senate. The Senate, therefore, stands adjourned until Tuesday, 6th May, 2025, at 2.30

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, I was under the impression that we were also expecting the Cabinet Secretary for Education today. Maybe you can clarify what happened because communication from the secretariat had indicated as much and there were questions that were directed at the Cabinet Secretary.

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am not a Member of the SBC, please. I attend committee meetings. Do not soil my reputation. You know that I left the SBC after serving for two sessions. April 16, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 2

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, you have to withdraw that remark that I do not attend committee meetings. (Laughter)

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, we are talking about far-flung areas and insecurity- prone, areas, but I can confirm that my mother-in-law does not have network at her home in Matungu. Sometimes it becomes embarrassing and very difficult for her to video call her eight-year old granddaughter. So, it is...

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. This is a Petition to the Senate of the Republic of Kenya regarding the eviction of Korogocho Community living in the Nairobi River Corridor after its declaration as a special planning area. Mr. Speaker, Sir, we, the undersigned, on behalf of the Korogocho...

Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. On behalf of the House as well, let me take this opportunity to welcome the students from PCEA, Emmanuel Church in Kibra. This is an institution that has close to 300 students aged between three years and 22 years. April 16, 2025 SENATE...

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Sen. Sifuna Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker. This is an incredibly responsive piece of legislation. While Sen. Sifuna referred to it as a simple amendment, its impact on the sports fraternity in this country will be immense. Since joining this House, I do not think I have loved a legislative...

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A certified version of this ReportThis money should be taken back to sports. If this money was put in sports, we would now be having at least 10 international stadiums in this country because of the huge amount of money that has come in here. If that was the case,...

A certified version of this Report Committee should investigate how this Fund is managed and administered, and how its beneficiaries have been supported, including the amounts involved.Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I second.

At this point, we will allow Senators to make contributions starting with Sen. Karen Nyamu.

Sen. Sifuna Mr. Speaker, Sir, allow me to add my voice to what my colleagues have said regarding the statement by Sen. (Prof.) Ojienda. As you know, I am a regular user of that road from Kisumu to Busia, because it is the route I use to go and see...

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Sen. Sifunacommunication is processed through them. When we asked them how many clerks they have, they could not answer, as there is only one clerk and a gazetted place where the Assembly is supposed to sit. This is absolutely unbelievable.I cannot be persuaded that there is nothing this House can...

Hon. Senators, we only have eight minutes to end the Statement Hour. I had given two minutes to each Member. Proceed, Sen. Nyamu.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, April is autism awareness month. Therefore, the Statement by Sen. Methu is timely. The prevalence of autistic children has skyrocketed in the recent past, not just in Kenya, but globally. I know there are all sorts of theories attributing the rise of autism in the country...

Allow her 30 seconds to finish.

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Let me conclude by saying that given the rising numbers, we need a department that will deal with autism in the country.

Last but not least, we have Sen. Madzayo. (Sen. Madzayo spoke off record) You are okay? The rest are not interested to speak to this. Let us mobr to the next Order. ADOPTION OF REPORT ON PETITION ON RESTRAINING COUNTY GOVERNMENTS FROM HIRING LAW FIRMS FOR LEGAL REPRESENTATION April 10,...

represent them in court cases, laid on the Table of the Senate on Thursday, 3rd April, 2025.

I would like to ascertain whether we have the numbers. I am told that we do not have numbers. Therefore, that Order is deferred to the next sitting. (Putting of the question on the Motion deferred) Hon. Senators, looking at the business before us, we will defer Order Nos. 9...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, at the sitting of---

Chairperson of the Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations, approach the Clerks-at-the-Table for some guidance. (Sen. Abass consulted with the Clerks-at-the-Table)