Khalwale Boni

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, to guide the House, it is our tradition, custom and practice in accordance with Standing Order No.1 (2) that if a Member must discharge the responsibility of another Member, he should submit to the Speaker a written consent from the said Member whom...

Sen. (Dr) Khalwale(Applause) December 4, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 20 Sen. (Dr) Khalwale statement that speaks to the role of the police. The police in Kenya seem to be serving private individuals, like the crooks who took these 130 head of cattle as if the matter is supposed to be countrywide....

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale So what have you informed him? What are you informing him?

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale(Loud consultations) December 4, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 21 Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale of Ikolomani in defending their national resource. Kshs687 billion is far too much money for us to allow tomcats from Nairobi supporting foreigners to take over. We will not cave in.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I wanted to comment on the statement by Sen. Nyutu regarding the plight of ECDE teachers from Murang'a County. (Loud consultations)

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Speaker, I am convinced by what the Counsel for the Governor, Mutuma, has said; that, you cannot find voting by proxy anywhere in the Standing Orders of the County Assembly or anywhere else yet, this is going to guide us to decide on your preliminary objection,...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwalemean? You all know that in this House, we have been voting with the threshold of 24, even when our brother, the late Cheptumo was gone.Now, with what has been brought by the County Assembly, they are telling us, please, remember there were three MCAs who are not...

Sen. Wambua, please proceed.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Hon. Senators, kindly arise. This session is suspended for one hour. We shall, therefore, come back here at exactly 7.30 p.m. (The Senate adjourned temporarily at 6.30 p.m.) (The Senate resumed at 7.40 p.m.)

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale(Loud consultations)

Hon. Senators, kindly arise. This session is suspended for one hour. We shall, therefore, come back here at exactly 7.30 p.m. (The Senate adjourned temporarily at 6.30 p.m.) (The Senate resumed at 7.40 p.m.)

Sen. (Dr) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I am glad that you have paused the intention to put the question. Anything touching on devolution, specifically issues of funding, speaks to the core business of this House. I want to thank you for this opportunity and also to second the...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. We do not understand why there is all this power rationing. Western Kenya tends to be the biggest casualty. What is the reason? You are well-placed to tell us, because fortunately for us, you also come from Western Kenya. By that I...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale This matter does not invite the Speaker to rule. It is a matter that requires the entire Secretariat of Parliament and specifically the Senate, to reflect on and advise the SBC. Sometimes, when the Governor of Kakamega is appearing before CPIC and CPAC, I sit there and...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I would like to appreciate the initiative by the Nominated Senator, Sen. Nabwire and Sen. Catherine Mumma. They are the only leaders from our community who have woken up to the reality of what is going on in Ikolomani. With maximum respect,...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I again celebrate my younger brother for defending himself and setting the record clear. Why are 8,000 to 10,000 people being moved to nowhere? The leaders are quiet, apart from Sen. Catherine, Sen. Consolata, and yours truly. Secondly, the administration; the national...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale By extension, the entire Randa Corridor shall not move. We will only move if we are the ones mining. We have not said we cannot mine. We will only move if our stake is not limited to five per cent. Five per cent of our own gold,...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Yes. The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) : Proceed, Senator for Nandi County.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Speaker, Sir, we should always plead with colleagues that if they must inform a Member, they inform them something they do not know. Before you came here, we enacted the law you are talking about. So, I know what I am talking about.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Yes, it is useful, but he should not give the impression that Sen. Boni Khalwale does not know the law.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Let me help him because it seems he does not know the law. Allow me to inform him now, it is five per cent to the community, 10 per cent to the county government, 20 per cent to the national Government and the balance disappears with the...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale What do they want?

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for that one minute that you have given me. In conclusion, we will not move from Kakamega for whatever reason other than mining that gold ourselves. We shall mine it. If I do not, my children will. If they do not, my...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Seriously speaking, Cabinet Secretaries should familiarise themselves with the Constitution. We sat with the Prime Cabinet Secretary here up to very late in the night when we were debating the Bills that were coming under the new Constitution. He knows, and he...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I like your tone. You should further advice the Senator for Nandi that he is decades away from my experience in parliamentary parlance. If he was not, he would know that in this Parliament, a ruling has been made that a Member...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Speaker, Sir, this habit of giving the impression that this Floor offers and opportunity for intimidation of a Member during debate negates the freedom of speech in the House and as enshrined in the Constitution of Kenya. If the Senator for Nandi is uncomfortable with the...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Speaker, Sir, I started this journey in politics at the age of 22… The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale… Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Speaker, Sir, bear with me for five seconds. I started with the journey in politics at the age of 22. We fought...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Speaker, Sir, I see no evidence that I am unable to substantiate. If such evidence is there, let it be adduced. I am very serious. We are not going breach provision of the Constitution just because of a smaller provision that could be found in a...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you so much for the indulgence. I can assure you, I have said I have chosen to keep quiet for the reason that Kenyans died to have freedom of expression and speech. Please, understand these things. We were there before you were.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Speaker, Sir-- The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) Hon. Boni, I have made a ruling after giving you more than 15 minutes to do what the--- I have made a ruling that--- Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale What is the ruling? The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) I have already made the...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise under Standing Order No.105. Did you hear the Senate Majority Leader announce that he is being denied an opportunity to go on maternity leave? Could he prove that he is pregnant? Mr. Speaker, Sir, laymen are shouting and they do not know...

Sen. (Dr) Khalwale Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise to seek further clarification on the matter raised by the Senator of Nandi County. The issue is the discrimination that Kenyans face in their industry outside the country are subjected to. The Government of Kenya should not keep quiet when our...

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Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Speaker, Sir, we have heard that you have amended the order of business, so that we can start with No.10 and then go back to the question. However, could you clarify whether the Senate is now waiting for a Cabinet Secretary? Is it the procedure of...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to support this Motion. The history of the IPU stretches to hundreds of years ago. Initially, the reason why IPU was founded was to further amongst other things, democracy, in the community of nations worldwide. I congratulate Sen. Catherine Mumma...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Speaker, Sir, before I ask my Question, allow me to extend my condolences to the family of the wife of J.M. Kariuki, Mama Terry Kariuki, who has passed on. I request the Cabinet Secretary, owing to the unique history of Josiah Mwangi Kariuki in this country,...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Yes, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The Cabinet Secretary’s work is well cut out for him. As a former colleague in this House, I believe he wants to succeed and we will support him. However. these incidences took place as far back as 2023. He is telling us that...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is not clear from the Cabinet Secretary. This insecurity is promoted by politicians. We know of a politician in Baringo and a November 5, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 22 Sen. (Dr.) Khalwalepolitician in West Pokot. In fact, his helicopter air lifted cattle rustlers when...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale The question is, what is he doing about politicians who are promoting this insecurity; one from Baringo and another one from West Pokot? The Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration (Hon. Kipchumba Murkomen) : Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Banditry is not confined to Pokot Community,...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we must collectively congratulate the Government for the decision to make it easier for the Somali and other border communities to move away from being discriminated. However, this is the time the Cabinet Secretary must tell the country what security layer has been...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwalebecause he has been to that place. It is called Kathangachini; just neighbouring Kathangachini. Now it is Kathangajuu. That sub-location has gone without a substantive assistant chief for close to five years since the retirement of one John Nyanga Gakingo. We have had two interviews conducted. We have...

Proceed. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, on operationalisation of locations and sub-locations, Cabinet Secretary, there are many new sub-locations and locations across the country. Young people have undergone interviews for employment. They have been waiting, some of them even for periods of up to two years. When...

Any other member? Sen. Enoch Wambua, proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Mine is also on that word, “operationalization”. Could the Cabinet Secretary respond, if he will? We have a number of new sub-counties created in Kitui County, including Tharaka Thagicu. He knows I fought with him here to create that sub-county. It was created and...

Hon. Cabinet Secretary, respond to those two supplementary questions. Then maybe, Sen. Gataya can also ask. I think he is not here.

Hon. Deputy Speaker, there is this sub-location called Kamagona in Marawa Location. I am very sure Hon. Waziri is privy to that information November 5, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 40

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. On behalf of the Chairperson, Standing Committee on Finance and Budget, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table of the Senate today, 30th October, 2025- The report of the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget on its consideration of...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to lay the following Paper on the Table of the Senate--- Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg your pardon. CONSIDERATION OF NATIONAL ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS TO THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT'S ADDITIONAL ALLOCATIONS (NO. 2) BILL, (SENATE BILLS NO.8 OF 2025)

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. These days, social media is very vibrant and robust. Let me make it clear that I am reading on behalf of the Leader of the Majority. I am not the Leader of the Majority. Mr. Speaker, Sir, pursuant to Standing Order No.57...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale I am sorry, that was when I was asking for a point of order. I am now good.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. The Cabinet Secretary knows that the Cabinet sat and made a decision on privatization. However, this was varied to leasing. Since he sits in the Cabinet, why did you not take the initiative to carry out a socio-economic impact assessment? He has...

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale What is your question, Sen. Boni? Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale: I feel a lot of pain about Litunya because I had to pay.

Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale: Cabinet Secretary, the question you must answer for Kenyans is this: The extra bill that SHA expects people to pay, why do you not acknowledge that it reflects a failed funding system? This system needs to be reworked, so that patients, my dear brother, can enjoy the...

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Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Sen. Boni, could you address the Chair?

Sen. Boni--- (Sen. Cherarkey consulted loudly) Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale Mr. Speaker, Sir, could you contain him?

Sen. Boni, could you address the Chair? October 29, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 33

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Sen. (Dr) Khalwale Number two, you cannot transfer the responsibility---

Sen. (Dr) Khalwale Order, Sen. Boni Khalwale. Minority Leader, please proceed. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Madzayo) : Asante, Bw. Naibu Spika.(Loud consultations) If there is no clarification, then I will give the Minority Leader. Sen. (Dr) Khalwale You cannot attack Dr. Brian Lishenga and you find it okay and...

Sen. (Dr) Khalwale Seneta, uko na dakika moja, ili Bw. Waziri akujibu.

You have no microphone, Sen. Boni Khalwale. Minority Leader, proceed. What is your clarification? Sen. Boni Khalwale, order or I will kick you out of this House for the rest of the day. (Sen. (Dr) Khalwale spoke off record) No, that is not the way we transact business and you...

Order, Sen. Boni Khalwale. Minority Leader, please proceed. The Senate Minority Leader (

Asante, Bw. Naibu Spika. (Loud consultations)

Sen. Munyi Mundigi, please, allow the Cabinet Secretary to get the clarification that the Senate Minority Leader is seeking. The Senate Minority Leader (

Katika Kaunti ya Kilifi hivi sasa, kila mtu anafuatilia hii debate ambayo inaendelea hapa. Ingekuwa bora sana kama utaniruhusu nimuulize Bw. Waziri lile swali ambalo nilikuwa nimeliuliza hapo awali ili aweze kulijibu kwa lugha ya Kiswahili. Kwa vile mimi nimeuliza kwa lugha ya Kiswahili na yeye pia anafaa kunijibu kwa...

Bw. Waziri amekupata. Bw. Naibu Spika katika

Seneta, uko na dakika moja, ili Bw. Waziri akujibu. October 29, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 45

Asante, Bw. Waziri kwa kufika Seneti. Tunawashukuru na muende salama. [The Cabinet Secretary for Health (Hon. Aden Duale) was ushered out of the Chamber] ADJOURNMENT

Hon. Senators, it is now 1.00 p.m., time to adjourn the Senate. The Senate, therefore, stands adjourned until later today, Wednesday, 29th October, 2025 at 2.30 p.m. The Senate rose at 1.00 p.m. October 29, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 46