Karungo Paul Thangwa

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Sen. Thang’wa Proceed, Sen. Kavindu Muthama.

Sen. Thang’wa Yes, I am Paul Karungo Wa Thang’wa, the Senator for Kiambu County. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I do not have a problem when Sen. Chute refers to me to Wamunyoro. We are happily associated with Wamunyoro and all the people. I will comment on the statement that was...

Sen. Thang’wa Next is Sen. Olekina. [The Speaker (Hon. Kingi) left the Chair] [The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Wakili Sigei) in the Chair] May 27, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 22 Sen. Thang’wa If Sen. Olekina is not ready to contribute, let us have Sen. Omogeni.

Sen. Thang’wa Thank you very much, Madam Temporary Speaker, for the opportunity for Kiambu to also speak on the issue of the Division of Revenue Bill, 2025. I equally oppose the Kshs405 billion that the National Assembly is proposing that we take to the counties for the financial year 2025/2026....

Sen. Thang’wa Madam Temporary Speaker, I am speaking about Kiambu; my home, my county, my people. It is only yesterday that the people of Kamwangi in Gatundu North met with their Member of Parliament (MP) . In unison, they said that they do not want a different market because they...

Sen. Thang’wa Madam Temporary Speaker, that is what I am going to substantiate. I was taking you there. After public participation yesterday, the people said that they are okay with the market and that they do not want a new one. However, since the national Government wants to encroach on...

Sen. Thang’wa Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for the opportunity. I take this opportunity to welcome the girls from St. Francis Mang’u, and the teachers who have come to visit us today. This is the Senate, and I am your Senator. My name is Karungo Wa Thang’wa. I thank your...

Sen. Thang’wa Mr. Speaker, Sir, I second.

Sen. Thang’wais holding the sittings away from the Assembly precincts is breaking the law. Similarly, the one who is also holding the sittings in the gazetted County Assembly is also breaking the law. I will tell you why, because I am a Member of this Committee and I know it.The...

Sen. Thang’wa, I am being informed that you seconded the Motion. Sen. Thang’wa It is a new Motion because it has a new amendment.

Just a moment, Sen. Paul Thang’wa. Give me a minute. (The Clerk-at the Table consulted with the Speaker) Sen. Paul Thang’wa, unfortunately, it is the same Motion. So, you cannot debate it again. I will have to stop you right there and give to the next Senator. Sen. Gloria Orwoba,...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I rise to support this Motion with the amendments that have been brought to the Floor of the House. I listened carefully to my colleague, Sen. Mungatana, who said that we should not be quick to recommend and do things before the Committee is...

Sen. Orwoba, I will just interrupt you briefly. Kindly, take your seat. I have a Communication from the Chair. (Interruption of debate on Motion) May 14, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 37 COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR SUSPENSION OF SEN. EDDY OKETCH FROM THE SENATE DURING THE MORNING SITTING

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. As I was saying, whatever this House decides on the issue that is affecting Nyamira County is actually going to set a precedence on how we protect devolution as the Upper House. I have listened to my colleagues debating and weighing in on the...

Budget will only follow the law and has to send the funds because they only deal with the CECM for Finance.Let it be on record that the Controller of Budget is actually living in this planet. She is from Nyamira County and she is aware of the things that are...

Sen. Osotsi, you have the Floor.

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Sen. Thang’waThis Motion is trying to achieve only one thing - to fight discrimination when it comes to issuing of bursaries. Who gets the bursary? The person who gets the bursary is that person who probably knows the Member of Parliament (MP) or fills those forms or is in the...

Allow him two minutes, please. Sen. Thang’wa: Thank you Madam Temporary Speaker. Even the Public Finance Management Act supports fund consolidation and accountability and, of course, Vision 2030. What does success look like? One transparent bursary system that is supplementary capitation given directly to the schools. It is even better...

Sen. Thang’wa Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for the opportunity. As I give my comments, may it be known that I am Karungo wa Thang’wa, Senator for Kiambu County. You can be just like Sen. Sifuna, the Senator for Nairobi City County, but from Kakamega County. (Loud consultations)

Sen. Thang’wa I will do so. You know, it is because we are treated--- April 17, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 23 Sen. Thang’waThe Speaker (Hon. Kingi): What is your point of order, Senator for Nairobi City County? What is your point of order, Senator for Nairobi City County?

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Sen. Thang’wa[The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)] left the Chair] [The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) in the Chair] [The Speaker (Hon. Kingi)] left the Chair] [The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Mumma) in the Chair] April 17, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 24 Sen. Thang’wa on Roads and Transportation, in the files there, there are people...

Just give him 30 seconds to finish, please. Will that be adequate? Sen. Thang’wa Yes, Madam Temporary Speaker. It is good for us as a Senate and also the National Assembly, to think about the next generation when we come up with laws. We should make laws for posterity. Before...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I would like to add my voice to Sen. Onyonka's statement about illegal organ trade. This has since been brought to the public and to the limelight that our youth are being recruited by rogue agents, particularly in the area of Eldoret, to sell their...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I rise to comment on the statement by Sen. Onyonka. Before I do so, I have forgiven my counterpart from Kiambu. During the campaigns, we used to transport people from Murima. They would go and see how western region and the lake looks like. We...

they also come and see the difference between Kiambu, Murang’a and the others. This was because some Kenyans have never gone past their homes and their home areas. They do not know the difference between Kakamega, Bungoma, Vihiga and Trans Nzoia counties. To him, we all look the same. He...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I rise to support the statement on the issue of kidney transplant operations by Mediheal Hospital in Eldoret. I used to think these Mediheal group of hospitals was credible. As my colleagues have said, a number of us have sought medical services there. I watched...

I know in Kenya we do not have a proper law on how organ harvesting and transplant should be done. It is a wake-up call that anybody who participated in this illegal syndicate of organ transplant and organ harvesting must be brought to book. Some of the young people who...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I will begin by supporting the statement by Sen. Onyonka on the promotion exercise that has just been conclude by TSC. I will borrow the words of Sen. Cherarkey that TSC is actually the headquarters of corruption. Notorious officials who I call rogue, are soliciting...

My Committee on Tourism, Trade and Industrialization will be looking at that issue. I promise Sen. Cherarkey that we will look deeply into that matter. We will try and sort out most of the challenges that have been addressed by the Nandi warrior, Sen. Cherarkey.Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. The issue by Sen. Okiya Omtatah about compensation is very serious. It is only today when it has come into public domain that Prof. PLO Lumumba has sued Hon. Nixon Korir, the Principal Secretary in charge of the State Department for Lands and Physical Planning...

On a point of order, Madam Temporary Speaker.

What is your point of order, Sen. Oketch Gicheru?

Madam Temporary Speaker, I rise under Standing Order No.101. The Majority Whip, who oversights the Government, has brought to the attention of this House very serious things happening in the Government where he is the Whip.

Sen. Oketch Gicheru, what is your point of order and it is under which Standing Order?

Madam Temporary Speaker, that is the point of order. I said that I am rising under Standing Order No.101. He has alleged that there is a Principal Secretary who has embezzled some funds thus must resign. He has actually used the word ‘demand,’ which I respect because it is the...

Sen. Thang’wa Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity to ask my question. I am happy to see the Cabinet secretary, Hon. Kabogo, who hails from my county, Kiambu. It is good to tell the House that we used to work together between 2013 and 2017 when...

Sen. Thangw’a Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, Sen. Thang’wa has been one of the supportive legislators on this Bill for the longest time. The people of Kiambu should know that they have a champion of women’s rights when it comes to provision of free sanitary towels. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I...

Sen. Orwoba, would you like to be informed by Sen. Paul Thangwa?

I was about to ask who Sen. Paul is. Yes, as long as my time is frozen, I would like to be informed by Sen. Thang’wa.

Sen. Thangwa Very well. The putting of the question is deferred. (Putting of the Question on the Bill deferred) Hon. Senators, at this point, we will rearrange the Order Paper and move to Order No.13. Next Order. April 16, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 32 Sen. Thangwa A certified version of this...

Thank you, Senator. In future, hon. Senator, when you stand on a point of order to inform a Senator, it is not an opportunity for you to contribute. However, we have understood you. Sen. Orwoba, you may proceed.

Sen. Thang’wa Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. My question is close to what Sen. Sigei on behalf of Sen. (Dr.) Murango asked about the illegal logging. It is happening in Karura Forest, on Kiambu Road near the Directorate of Criminal Investigations (DCI) . It is also happening in Thogoto...

Sen. Thang’wa Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, that is where I pass every day. I do not require an invitation. Regarding the issues of Karura and Thogoto forests, I even have videos that I can forward to the hon. Cabinet Secretary. I need a comprehensive report. I do not need to...

Sen. Thang’wa Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I do not understand the fires, but we are all in agreement that Isiolo and Eldoret international airports are not working. That means nothing is working. That means the Government is not working. April 9, 2025 SENATE DEBATES 31 (Loud consultations)

Order, hon. Senators! Sen. Thang’wa We all agree that the Government is not working and we should not continue with this debate. Nothing is working. This is an indication of what we have been saying. They should agree that the Government is not working then together we come up with...