Murungi Kathuri

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Osotsi is not here? The statement is deferred. (Statement deferred) Next statement by Hon. Catherine Mumma, MP? Yes, Senator for Nairobi City County?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Cabinet Secretary, welcome to this session of the Senate. However, before we start giving responses, let me make the following communication. (Interruption of Questions) COMMUNICATION FROM THE CHAIR VISITING DELEGATION FROM MAMA NGINA UNIVERSITY COLLEGE IN GATUNDU The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, I...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Very well. Cabinet Secretary, we have three questions; one from Sen. Wambua, Question No.006 and two from Senior Counsel (SC) , Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda, Questions No.007 and No.008. Let us start with the question from the Senator for Nairobi City County, Sen. Edwin Sifuna....

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Cabinet Secretary, proceed and give the response. The Cabinet Secretary for Education (Hon. Julius Migos Ogamba) : Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, and Members for the invitation to respond to these questions. I beg to respond to the three aspects of that question...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you could first answer those two supplementary questions. The Cabinet Secretary for Education (Hon. Julius Migos Ogamba) : Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. The retooling that is being undertaken by the head teachers of these institutions is a curriculum that has...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Let me get two more then you can answer. March, 11, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 23

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) I hope you are noting the questions. Sen. Cherarkey.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) The Honourable Cabinet Secretary can answer those three supplementary questions, then we can get another round. The Cabinet Secretary for Education (Hon. Julius Migos Ogamba) : Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. The Career Progression Guidelines are the ones that were developed in 2018 and...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) I can see Sen. Betty Montet but I want you to first listen to Members because you Chair the Committee on Education, then you can come later. Proceed, Sen. Joe Nyutu.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) And an educator.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, you know a supplementary question is not a debate or a congratulatory message. It should be a supplementary question because you have two more questions. I can see time is not on our side and these questions are almost related. Let us give...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Cabinet Secretary, you can answer now all those interventions. Cabinet Secretary of Education (Hon. Julius Migos Ogamba) : Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. On the question of capitation and institutions uploading, we have for the first time were able to release capitation this time...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Prof. Margaret Kamar, Senator, please proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) CS, proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for Education (Hon. Julius Migos Ogamba) : Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I can confirm that a number of C1 and C2 schools, in fact, all the schools admitted more students than the placement that they had indicated because...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Just one minute kindly, then we move on to the next question. Also, you are doing your second supplementary on the same question.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Cabinet Secretary, make clear those clarifications. The Cabinet Secretary for Education (Hon. Julius Migos Ogamba) : Yes, thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. As I said, we have just received the exit reports, so we have not made a decision on what we will do...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Very well. Sen. Beatrice Ogola.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Beatrice, I want to give you advice. Next time, you get to the question. Question No.007 MECHANISMS TO SAFEGUARD TRANSPARENCY, ACCURACY AND CREDIBILITY OF NATIONAL ASSESSMENTS

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Cabinet Secretary, proceed. The Cabinet Secretary for Education (Hon. Julius Migos Ogamba) : Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I beg to reply as follows to the four aspects of the question. At the onset, I wish to confirm that the Ministry is not...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Kisang, there is a point of order from Sen. Osotsi.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Kisang’ proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Proceed, Sen. Mandago. This is the last---

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) That should be the end of the Statements Hour. Next Order. March 11, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 28 THE AGRICULTURE PRODUCE (MINIMUM GUARANTEE RETURNS) BILL, SENATE BILLS NO. 17 OF 2025) THE CULTURE BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILL NO.12 OF 2024) THE PUBLIC AUDIT (AMENDMENT) BILL, (NATIONAL...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Eddy Oketch, Vice-Chairperson of the CPISFC, if you look at Standing Order No.100, the matter you are discussing on the Floor is very active in your committee, and your committee has not brought in a report to this House. Since the matter is active...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Unfortunately, you have over utilised your time, and the system did not even realise. So, you have not done any favour to the Members who are waiting. Sen. Olekina, Standing Order No.36 is very explicit on what happens on your case. However, with the reasons...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Fair enough. Let us listen to Sen. Osotsi Godfrey.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) That is why you should really keep keen on the lights, because you see the other members are still waiting. (Sen. Osotsi spoke off record) No, no, just one minute. One minute is enough, as you conclude. Just one minute, as you requested.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Okay, very well. Sen. Okoiti Andrew.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Very well. Your request is granted. So, that will be, we defer the putting of the question. (Putting of the Question on the Bill deferred) Next Order. March, 10, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 25 THE AGRICULTURE PRODUCE (MINIMUM GUARANTEED RETURNS) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.17 OF 2025)...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Mungatana Danson.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Eddy, I can see you are seeking my sympathy. However, I wanted the Senate Majority Leader to go first then I come back to you. If he is not ready, then you can utilise your minutes.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) There is a point of order from Senior Counsel Omogeni, Commissioner.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Can you confirm that the former commissioners used to fly the Middle East zone?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Next is Sen. Oketch Eddy.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you. Very well. Next is Sen. Omogeni Erick Okong’o, Commissioner.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Does he have those powers to do that? Sen. Omogeni: I am sure if he sends signals that he is willing to do that--- The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) : Yes, Sen. Eddy Oketch.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Next is Sen. Madzayo, the Senate Minority Leader. An hon. Member: He has already contributed. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) There is a story I was trying to tell you. Please, freeze my time. As the SG of ODM, I am the patron of a programme called “He for She” at the party. It is meant to encourage women in ODM to participate in politics....

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. As you know, as the Secretary General (SG) of the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) party, I am the patron of a programme in the party that we call--- The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) In my records, I recognise you as the Deputy Minority Whip. You...

There is a story I was trying to tell you. Please, freeze my time. As the SG of ODM, I am the patron of a programme called “He for She” at the party. It is meant to encourage women in ODM to participate in politics. I am proud to report...

implementation. I know the Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) off-head because I wrote it.What the women of this country expect on the 7th when we receive the final implementation report is to see that framework put in place by the committee implementing agenda number one. I speak on behalf of the...

Asante sana, Mheshimiwa Naibu Spika, kwa kunipa fursa hii. Kwanza, naunga mkono taarifa iliyoletwa na Senata wa Kaunti ya Kirinyaga, Sen. (Dk.) Murango. Kanuni zilizoongeza bei ya maji katika Kaunti ya Kirinyaga hazikuletwa Seneti. Mara nyingi kanuni hizi hujadiliwa kwa Bunge la Kaunti ya Kirinyaga na kupitishwa kuwa sheria. Hata...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Naona wanachama wa KEWOSA wanafanya kazi nzuri. Naomba warudi mashinani hasa kwa zile kaunti ambazo hazikubahatika kupata maseneta wanawake. Kaunti ya Nairobi ina maseneta wanne wanawake ambao wanaweza kutembelea kaunti zile. Niko na wawili: Sen. Asige na Sen. Miraj, ambao wanaweza pia kutembelea kaunti nyingine....

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I am ready. I wish to comment on two statements. I would like to start with the statement by the Senator of Kirinyaga County on the issue of various levies on water consumers. This is a very serious issue....

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Allow me to donate my time to Sen. Tabitha Mutinda. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) You cannot donate. If you have nothing to say, then we will go to Sen. Osotsi Godfrey. You were not replying to a Bill or Motion, because that is...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I am ready. I wish to comment on two statements. I would like to start with the statement by the Senator of Kirinyaga County on the issue of various levies on water consumers. This is a very serious issue. In the Senate Committee on...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity. I also rise to make a comment or two; first, on the statement by Sen. Andrew Okiya Omtatah, the Senator of Kenya from Busia County, on recruitment agencies for jobs abroad. This is a matter of...

Asante, Bw. Naibu Spika. Yangu ni machache. Ningetaka kuwapongeza Sen. Veronica Maina na Sen. Wakwabubi Consolata, kwa kuleta mjadala wa mambo ya wanawake duniani. Kusema kweli, wanawake wanaweza na wamekaa kidete kuonyesha kuwa hata hapa kwenye Seneti wanaweza. Nakumbuka tulipoinzisha KEWOSA. Mimi nikiwa mwenyekiti, tulianza na kuwasaidia wanawake wafungwa ambao...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity. I also rise to make a comment or two; first, on the statement by Sen. Andrew Okiya Omtatah, the Senator of Kenya from Busia County, on recruitment agencies for jobs abroad. This is a matter of national importance and I am...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. As I was contributing to the issue of the Culture Bill yesterday, I mentioned a number of issues. I was referring to the Maasai culture. I said we have a very rich culture that has transcended almost into the...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Deputy Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Ring the Quorum Bell for a further 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Senators, I want to make...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Hon. Senators, I now confirm that we have a quorum. Clerk, read out the first Order. PAPERS LAID The Deputy Speaker (Sen....

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Very well. Hon. Senators, there is some unpalatable noise from my right-hand side. Next Order, Clerk. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, we have several statements starting from Statement pursuant to Standing Order No.52 (1) . Sen. Hamida Kibwana, MP....

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Next is Sen. Mwenda Gataya. He is not in the House. His statement is dropped. RISING STUDENT FATALITIES IN BOARDING SECONDARY SCHOOLS STATUS OF TALANTA SPORTS STADIUM PROJECT

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Wambua, please, proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, my leader has sought information, which is important. I, therefore, request that you give me more time if my time is up because I am spending this to educate my leader. This House and my leader should know that in the...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)I was happy when the Senator of Narok County invited us, last year, to attend a celebration of his son. I was also invited by the Member of Parliament (MP) for Narok West, Tongoyo. That is what we want. My friend, Sen. Wambua told me some...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Senator for Nyamira is flowing very well, but he has twice made reference to four-legged cows. Could there be a three or two- legged cow somewhere? What are these four-legged cows that he is talking about? Thank you.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, my good friend, Sen. Wambua, should liaise with his Party Leader, who is our korera, our in-law. He knows when you come to Kisii and tell us you have brought a cow, it is not complete till you say a four-legged animal. You can slaughter one...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)Majority Leader. I want to concur with the speakers who went before me on their contributions about the Bill.First, I want to acknowledge that culture is an important aspect to each one of us because it gives us identity, shows us our way of life, social...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity to contribute towards the Bill sponsored by Sen. Cheruiyot, the Senate March 4, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 44

March 4, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 45

In our culture, a boy undergoes rigorous processes before he faces the knife. It is an enjoyable session, when you find me tagging along those boys and girls dancing, you will not know that I am of a voluminous size and heavy weight. I dance vigorously and enjoy the rhythms,...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir I appreciate this opportunity. Let me congratulate the sponsor of the Bill, the Senate Majority Leader. The Swahilis say, “Muacha mila ni mtumwa.” This Bill is very important. It is coming to give effect to Article 11 of the Constitution. Kenya is a diverse...

Today, you will find many Kenyans of different ethnic backgrounds, but they are wearing the Maasai dress. One time, I went to Washington, D.C. to attend an international function. I was given a standing ovation for wearing the Maasai traditional dress. They asked whether I was Kenyan. Everybody was just...

Let me say that I am a proud Kenyan but a very proud Maasai lady because my society is organised culturally since it has not lost track of our rich culture. This Act will come to enhance what we have. It will also protect what we have and make all...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) REPORTS AND CONSIDERATION OF REPORTS THE CANCER PREVENTION AND CONTROL (AMENDMENT) BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILLS NO.45 OF 2022)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered the President’s Memorandum on The Cancer Prevention and Control (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bills No.45 of 2022) and approved the recommendations on Clauses 2, 3 and 4.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee on the said report. I request Sen. Eddy Oketch to second.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee on the said report. I request Sen. Eddy Oketch to second. March, 3, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 27 THE METEOROLOGY BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.45 OF 2023)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered the National Assembly amendments to The Meteorology Bill (Senate Bills No.45 of 2023) and its approval thereof with amendments.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) THE ELECTION OFFENCES (AMENDMENT) (NO.2) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.28 OF 2024)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered and rejected the National Assembly amendments to The Election Offences (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (Senate Bills No.28 of 2024) .

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee on the said report. I request Sen. Eddy Oketch to second.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee on the said report. I request the Senator for Kisumu, Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda, to second. March, 3, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 28 THE PUBLIC FINANCE MANAGEMENT (AMENDMENT) (NO.4) BILL...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered The Public Finance Management (Amendment) (No.4) Bill (National Assembly Bills No.45 of 2024) and its approval thereof with amendments.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee on the said report. I request the Senator for Kisumu, Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda, to second.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that The Public Finance Management (Amendment) (No.4) Bill (National Assembly Bills No.45 of 2024) be now read a Third Time. I request Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda to second.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question proposed) The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Let us finish with the reporting then we will vote on all of them thereafter. Since we are still reporting, we do not need to have the quorum at this moment. I now order that the doors...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered The Labour Migration and Management (No.2) Bill (Senate Bills No. 42 of 2024) and its approval thereof with amendments. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mover, proceed.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee on the said Report. I request Sen. Eddy Oketch to second.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mover, proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mr. Deputy Speaker, sir, I beg to move that the Senate do agree with the Committee in the said Report. I request Sen. (Prof.) Ojienda to second. THE TOBACCO CONTROL (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 35 OF 2024)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered the Tobacco Control (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No. 35 of 2024) and its approval thereof with amendments. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mover, proceed.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, sir, I beg to move that the Senate do agree with the Committee in the said Report. I request Sen. (Prof.) Ojienda to second. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda, proceed. March, 3, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 30

I second. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mover, proceed.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that The Tobacco Control (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No. 35 of 2024) be now read a Third Time. I request Sen. (Prof.) Ojienda to second.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I second. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mr. Deputy Speaker, sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered The County Governments Election Laws (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No.2 of 2024) and its approval thereof with amendments.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I beg to move that the Senate do agree with the Committee on the said report. THE COUNTY GOVERNMENTS ELECTION LAWS (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 2 OF 2024)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered The County Governments Election Laws (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No.2 of 2024) and its approval thereof with amendments. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mover, proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I beg to move that the Senate do agree with the Committee on the said report. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Can you propose a seconder?

I request Sen. Beatrice Ogola to second. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Beatrice Ogola, proceed.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mover, proceed. March, 3, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 31

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that The County Governments Election Laws (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No. 2 of 2024) be now read a third time. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Is Sen. Beatrice Ogola still seconding or you have changed your mind to Sen. Kajwang’?

No, I would like the honour to go to my colleague, Beatrice Ogola. Thank you. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Beatrice, proceed.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question proposed) The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, we will do the four Divisions. You can ring the Quorum Bell for one minute. (Quorum Bell was rung) Now, one minute is over. Close the doors and draw the bars. No Senator should leave...

THE LABOUR MIGRATION AND MANAGEMENT (NO.2) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.42 OF 2024) DIVISION ELECTRONIC VOTING NOES: Nil. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) These are the results of the Division-

March, 3, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 34 THE TOBACCO CONTROL (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.35 OF 2024) DIVISION ELECTRONIC VOTING NOES: Nil. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) These are the results of the Division-

THE COUNTY GOVERNMENTS ELECTION LAWS (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.2 OF 2024) DIVISION ELECTRONIC VOTING March, 3, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 35 Noes: Nil. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Asante, Bw. Naibu Spika, kwa kunipa fursa hii kutoa risala za rambirambi kwa niaba yangu na watu wa Laikipia. Tunasema pole sana...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, I order that the doors be opened and bars drawn) (The doors were opened and Bars drawn) Thank you, Senators, for your patience this afternoon. We have done quite a commendable job. (Resumption of debate on Communication from the Chair) The Deputy Speaker...

Asante, Bw. Naibu Spika, kwa kunipa fursa hii kutoa risala za rambirambi kwa niaba yangu na watu wa Laikipia. Tunasema pole sana kwa kumpoteza kiongozi shujaa, Mbunge wa Emurua Dikirr, Mheshimiwa Johana Ng’eno. Ikumbukwe kwamba Mheshimiwa Johana Ng’eno ni kiongozi ambaye aliongea fikra zake bila kuogopa. Kile ambacho aliamini, alikisema....

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Very well. Next is Sen. Essy Okenyuri.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Deputy Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Order, hon. Senators. We now have quorum. Clerk, read out the first Order. PAPERS LAID (Loud consultations)

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)Yes, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Just a minute, Sen. Olekina. There is a point of order from the Senator for Kakamega County. February, 19, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 2

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Boni Khalwale, if you go to Standing Order No.57 (1) --- Are you aware that Sen. Ledama is a member of the Senate Business Committee (SBC) ? Are you aware or not? Just read 57 (1) loudly. Let me sit, you can read for...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Proceed, Sen. Cherarkey.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) What I am directing is that, under Standing Order No.1, I directed you to read the statements. So, proceed to do exactly what the Chair guided you to do. PAPERS LAID

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Sen. Ledama. QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS STATEMENTS The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, we have statements under Standing Order No.53. However, before we start Order No.7, yesterday and this afternoon, I have signed so many statements. I can see that the ones we...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Very well. Next, Sen. Mundigi Alexander. PEST THREAT TO MUGUKA FARMING IN EMBU COUNTY

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Order, Senators. Sen. Samson Cherarkey, you have two statements. I can see a repeat of a statement you made this week.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Okay, proceed. STATUS OF IPOA INVESTIGATIONS INTO EXTRA-JUDICIAL KILLINGS AND POLICE ABUSE

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Next is Sen. Andrew Omtatah Okoiti. MEDICAL NEGLIGENCE, PROFESSIONAL MISCONDUCT AND PATIENT SAFETY CONCERNS AT SINAI HOSPITAL, KAJIADO COUNTY

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Very well, Sen. Okiya Omtatah. Next is Sen. Hezena Lemaletian.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Hezena, approach the Chair with the two statements. I wanted to help you by requesting your neighbour to help you, but no Standing Order allows me to assist you when you are that emotional. Sorry about that. Next is Sen. Faki. February, 19, 2026...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Next is Sen. Wambua. You have two statements; one under Standing Order No.53 (1) and the other one under Standing Order No.52 (1) . Start with the one under Standing Order No.53 (1) before you do the other one.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Very well. Sen. Sifuna Edwin, proceed. LAPSE OF THE COMESA SUGAR SAFEGUARD REGIME

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, I will allow just 20 minutes for clarifications or comments on the statements starting with Sen. Maina Veronica.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Methu?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, I allowed 20 minutes and if we go the Methu way, then only four or three Senators will be able to make their comments. So, the next Senator should take two minutes, at least two minutes. Sen. Osotsi Godfrey.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, you know that when the Chair allows points of order, you should just restrain yourself. You just listen. The other day, Sen. Sifuna, you were complaining that the Chairs do not give points of order. Now that I am giving, Sen. Mandago, then...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Osotsi, you can substantiate that claim.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) In the next sitting, yes. You should do that. Sen. Tabitha Mutinda.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Clerk, do we have quorum? (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Deputy Speaker) Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Bell for a further10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) If...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Chairperson Standing Committee on Labour and Social Welfare. This business has been on the order for the last couple of days. I request that if there is any Member of that committee here, they move the Motion now.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Mundigi Alexander, please proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Maanzo Daniel, please proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Maanzo, there is a point of order from Sen. Munyi Mundigi.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Mundigi, amemaliza. Maybe you are on a point of clarification. What do you want? You cannot prosecute a point of order now, unless it is a point of clarification or something else.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Utaratibu hauruhusu ufungue hilo jambo tena. Next is Sen. Karungo Thangw’a Paul. Yes, Senator. Just a minute, Sen. Karungo Thang’wa.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Maanzo.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Mundigi, what is it? What clarification are you seeking?

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sawa. Hapo ameelewa vizuri. Sen. Karungo, proceed.

Mr. Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Next is Sen. Wambua Enock, Deputy Minority Leader.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) The Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Labour and Social Welfare is in the House. I hope you are following up on the debate from the Senators and also taking notes. Next is Sen. Methu John.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Majority Whip, you are intercepting the thinking of the hon. Senator for Nyandarua. His flow of thoughts is not commensurate to what he is trying to execute on the Floor.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hold on, Sen. Methu. I request the three Senators who are between me and the person contributing to take their seats. Sen. Lelegwe kindly; the Clerks will sort your issue. I can see that Director Ruge is also almost out of order. Sen. Lelegwe, please,...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, you know, I have listened keenly to Members contributing to this Motion. It appears like Members are not happy with the recommendations. This Motion is a property of the Senate. Instead of lamenting and being so unhelpful to yourself and to these KCC...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Serjeant-at-Arms, ring the Quorum Bell for 10 minutes. (The Quorum Bell was rung) Clerk, if we now have quorum, please, read out the first Order. We are now properly constituted. PAPERS LAID

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Very well. Next Order. NOTICES OF MOTION The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Chairperson, Standing Committee on Labour and Social Welfare, you have a Notice of Motion to give. As you prepare, let Sen. Veronica Maina give Notice of her Motion. DECLARATION OF ROAD ACCIDENTS AS...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Labour and Social Welfare on a matter of county-wide concern regarding the schedule of payment of statutory deductions owned by the County Government...

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Land, Environment and Natural Resources on a matter of county-wide concern regarding the...

Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Land, Environment and Natural Resources on a matter of county-wide concern regarding the intervention measures being undertaken to address the ongoing water crisis in some parts of...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations on a matter of countrywide concern regarding the ongoing conflict between herders and farmers, which has resulted to livestock deaths...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 51 (3) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries on a matter of countywide concern regarding mass death of fish, particularly Dunga Beach in Lake Victoria cages, affecting fishermen’s livelihood and...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries on a matter of countrywide concern regarding the allocation and disbursement of the Commodities Fund for the clearance of the coffee cooperative's...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, since I tried reading the Standing Orders and they do not explicitly provide how classified information is handled, that is why I wanted your guidance. However, I have some information here, which I can table. Then, if there are rules and...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, since I tried reading the Standing Orders and they do not explicitly provide how classified information is handled, that is why I wanted your guidance. However, I have some information here, which I can table. Then, if there are rules and guidance on how classified information...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)(Loud consultations) The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri)February, 18, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 21 (Loud consultations) February, 18, 2026 SENATE DEBATES 21 MATATU-BODA BODA DISPUTE IN NAIROBI CITY

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.53 (1) to seek a Statement from the Chairperson, Committee on Roads, Transportation and Housing on a matter of countywide concern regarding the recent disputes between matatu and boda boda operators in Nairobi City County which have escalated into violence,...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I rise pursuant to Standing Order No. 52 (1) to make a Statement on a matter of international and general topical concern, namely; the Forum of Parliaments of Member States of the International Conference of the Great Lakes Region, (FP-ICGLR) electoral observation mission in...

Thank you, very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to just contribute on the Statements that have been sought today. I will contribute on the first Statement about boda bodas and matatus and the conflict that arose after protests. How I do wish that Sen. Cherarkey would...

Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I also want to contribute to Hon. Asige’s Statement. The issue of boda and matatus have really become a problem. The boda boda is a very active industry. It contributes to the economy. However, the riders' behaviour has become wanting and intimidates everybody on the road....

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, many years ago, there was a belief that you could not control the matatu industry because they had become so disorderly. In those days, we used to have Kenya Bus Services Limited. The matatus then came and everybody believed there is nothing that could be done,...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise to make a comment on the Statement by the Senator for Tharaka-Nithi. I will be very brief. I say, yes, I agree with him that when people along a riverbed are able to utilise the water resource, they should not compromise the ability of...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I come in peace. I listened to the tone of Sen. Wambua, and I am looking at the faces of Sen. Nyutu. I believe I was the next in terms of the people who were to be given the permission to speak, and so...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. Moses Kajwang’, when Sen. Murango was the Chair of the Committee on Agriculture, Fisheries and Livestock, I remember there was a time he whispered to me that he was on his way to Costa Rica. That was Colombia? When did Moses Kajwang’ and my...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Sen. (Dr.) Murango, ni vyema ripoti ziwe zinaletwa Seneti lakini kamati hii ya Delegated Legislation, kwa miaka mingi, nimeona kuwa wanapokubaliana na hoja yeyote, wanapitisha bila kurudi Seneti. Wakikataa wanakatalia katika kikao chao wala hawaleti katika kikao. Mimi ninaona ni vizuri, vile umesema tubadilishe Kanuni...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Last but not least, Sen. M. Kajwang’, you may proceed.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Hon. Senators, what Sen. (Dr.) Murango requested to be advised on was good. Our State Departments and Parastatals sneak in their regulations through the Committee on Delegated Legislation. Like now, Sen. (Dr.) Murango, they are sitting on very dangerous regulations seeking to have more levies...

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Next is Sen. Veronica Waheti Maina.

The Deputy Speaker (Sen. Kathuri) Add her one minute.

How would they like it if Senate decided to act against the Constitution by saying that any governor who appears before the Senate for Impeachment will be found guilty without any trial? Would that be a proper recourse for the Senate? I put it to the Chairperson of the Council...