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Sen. Mungatana, MGH

Sen. Mungatana

Sen. Mungatana

Sen. Mungatana, MGH

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Sen. Mungatana we are adding you the one minute I committed to for your conclusion.

Sen. Mungatana Sen. Mungatana, your time is up. Hon. Members, since no other Member is keen on making a contribution, I call upon the Majority Leader to reply.

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Hon. Members. We now return to Order No. 5. Clerk, you may call Order No. 5.

Sen. Mungatana we are adding you the one minute I committed to for your conclusion. Sen. Mungatana, MGH Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. The only thing the President has not mentioned is where the funding is going to be found in this budget. For example, we know that he...

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity. Since the promulgation of the Kenya Constitution in 2010, there have been tensions - I am aware of it - between the Ministry of Lands and the NLC. Previous Ministers have had even an open fallout with...

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Yes, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity to interrogate the response by the Cabinet Secretary. Concerning the first and second questions with regard to Eastleigh Open Air Market and Eastleigh Social Hall, the Cabinet Secretary has asked for more time and indicated 30 days....

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Asante, Bw. Spika, kwa kunipa nafasi kutoa maoni yangu kuhusu Mswada ambao unahusika na mambo ya harambee. Harambee hapa Kenya zimekuwa na shida. Katika historia ya Kenya, Mzee Jomo Kenyatta aliweka Wakenya wote pamoja kwa mwito wa harambee. Harambee ni jina liko na msingi wa Kihindi ambao...

Sen. Mungatana, MGH On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Mr. Speaker, Sir, did you hear the Senator for Kakamega, my very good honourable friend, say that “do not bring us the money that you have stolen?” If you get something and you want to help, is it a presumption that the people who are helping like...

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me the Floor. I want to really thank Sen. Cheruiyot, our Senate Majority Leader, for moving this Bill in a very eloquent way and expressing how important this Bill is. I am one of the older Members in this...

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee on the said report and request hon. Hamida to second. Sen. Mungatana, MGH Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) November 28, 2024 SENATE DEBATES...

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Sen. (Dr.) Boni Khalwale, please approach the Chair. (Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale approached the Chair and consulted) Hon. Senators, we are now resuming the normal business. We have two papers to lay as well as a Motion to issue notice. Clerk, go back to the Order Paper for...

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Sen. Mungatana, MGH Sen. Chute, you will, upon your moving, ask someone to second your Bill. We will then proceed from there upon it being seconded.

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question proposed) November 28, 2024 SENATE DEBATES 53 Sen. Mungatana, MGH New Clause 7E Sen. Mungatana, MGH Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I beg to Move – THAT the Bill be amended by inserting the following new clause immediately after Clause 7–...

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Hon. Senators, pursuant to provisions of Standing Order No.66 (3) , the putting of the question to this particular Bill is deferred to the next sitting of the House. (Putting of the question on the Bill deferred) THE ELECTIONS (AMENDMENT) (NO.2) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.29 OF 2024)....

Division at the end. Clause 4 Sen. Mungatana, MGH Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, I beg to move – THAT Clause 4 of the Bill be amended in paragraph (a) by— Sen. Mungatana, MGH Mr. Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 14 and...

Division will be at the end. Clause 24 Sen. Mungatana, MGH Mr. Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting clause 25 and substituting thereof the following new clause— Amendment of 25. Section. 45 of the principal Act be amended by— Sen. Mungatana, MGH Mr....

Hon. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, pursuant to Standing Order No.153, I beg to move that the Committee of the Whole do report on this consideration of the Public Transport Motorcycle Regulation Bill (Senate Bills No. 38 of 2023) and seek leave to sit again tomorrow. (Question put and agreed to) THE...

Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairperson, Sir. Pursuant to Standing Order No.153, I beg to move that the Committee of the Whole do report progress on its consideration of the Public Finance Management Amendment Bill (Senate Bills No. 40 of 2023) and seek leave to sit again tomorrow. (Question put and...

Let us all rise. November 28, 2024 SENATE DEBATES 62 PROGRESS REPORTED THE PUBLIC TRANSPORT (MOTORCYCLE REGULATION) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 38 OF 2023)

Hon. Members, we are now resuming and I would like to call upon the Chairperson to proceed to report of progress by the Committee of the Whole on the Public Transport (Motorcycle Regulation) Bill (Senate Bills No. 38 of 2023) .

Hon. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered the Public Transport (Motorcycle Regulation) Bill (Senate Bills No.38 of 2023) and seeks leave to sit again tomorrow.

Sen. (Dr.) Boni Khalwale, the Mover, please proceed. Clerk, give him the microphone.

Hon. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report.

Do we have somebody to second?

I request the Senator from Tana River County, Buya Mungatana, please second. Sen. Mungatana, MGH I second. Thank you. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to). THE PUBLIC FINANCE MANAGEMENT (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.40 OF 2023)

We shall now move to the next Bill, the Public Finance Management (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No. 40 of 2023) . I call upon Sen. Chute to report and then Sen. Hamida to move.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered the Public Finance Management (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No. 40 of 2023) and seeks leave to sit again tomorrow.

Sen. Hamida, proceed to move.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. November 28, 2024 SENATE DEBATES 63

I request Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale to kindly second.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.12 OF 2024)

We will now proceed to report on the Intergovernmental Relations (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No.12 of 2024) . I call upon the Chairperson to report.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered the Intergovernmental Relations (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No. 12 of 2024) and seeks leave to sit again tomorrow.

Sen. Mungatana, proceed to move.

Sen. Mungatana

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report and ask hon. Sen. Hamida to second.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) THE POLITICAL PARTIES (AMENDMENT) (NO. 2) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 26 OF 2024)

We will now move to the next Bill, the Political Parties (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (Senate Bills No. 26 of 2024) . I call upon the Chairperson to report.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole has considered the Political Parties (Amendment) (No.2) Bill (Senate Bills No.26 of 2024) and seeks leave to sit again tomorrow.

On behalf of the Senate Majority Leader, Sen. Mungatana proceed to move. Sen. Mungatana, MGH Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee on the said report and request hon. Hamida to second.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) November 28, 2024 SENATE DEBATES 64 THE ELECTIONS (AMENDMENT) (NO. 2) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 29 OF 2024)

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to report that the Committee of the Whole in the Senate has considered the Elections (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill (Senate Bills No. 29 of 2024) and seeks leave to sit again tomorrow.

I call upon the Mover, Sen. Mungatana.

Sen. Mungatana

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee on the said report and request hon. Hamida to second.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to)

Sen. (Dr.) Boni Khalwale, please approach the Chair. (Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale approached the Chair and consulted) Hon. Senators, we are now resuming the normal business. We have two papers to lay as well as a Motion to issue notice. Clerk, go back to the Order Paper for purposes of that....

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to lay the following Papers on the Table of this Senate today, Thursday, 28th November, 2024- REPORT OF THE STANDING COMMITTEE ON FINANCE AND BUDGET ON ITS CONSIDERATION OF THE PUBLIC FINANCE MANAGEMENT (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.27 OF 2024 November 28, 2024 SENATE...

Next Order. Proceed, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale. NOTICE OF MOTION ADOPTION OF REPORT ON NOMINATION OF MR. GERALD NYAOMA ARITA FOR APPOINTMENT TO THE POSITION OF DEPUTY GOVERNOR, CENTRAL BANK OF KENYA

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to give notice of the following Motion- THAT, the Senate adopts the report of the joint sittings of the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget of the Senate and the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning of the National Assembly, on the nomination...

Clerk, let us call the next Order. Hon. Members, for the convenience of the House, we will rearrange the Order Paper, so that we call out Order No.25, the County Assembly Services (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bill No.34 of 2023) . Thereafter, we shall proceed as per the Order Paper. So,...

Sen. Chute, this is your Bill. You may proceed to Move.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I beg to move- That the County Assembly Services (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No.34 of 2023) , be now read a Second Time. What this Bill is meant for is to align what is happening in the National Assembly and the Senate. If you...

Sen. Chute, you will, upon your moving, ask someone to second your Bill. We will then proceed from there upon it being seconded.

Let me ask my friend, Sen. Lomenen, the Senator for Turkana, to second this Bill. November 28, 2024 SENATE DEBATES 67

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question proposed)

Hon. Members, this Bill is now open and available for contribution by Members. For those who would be keen on rendering their contribution, the Floor is open and available for contribution.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me the opportunity to contribute to the County Assembly Services (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No.34 of 2023) , I want to thank Sen. Chute for moving this amendment. He has mentioned some of the important issues that the amendment of this County...

There seems to be no other Member who is interested in contributing to this Bill. I now call upon the Mover, Sen. Chute, to reply.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Pursuant to Standing Order No.66 (3) , I request that the putting of the question be deferred to a later date.

Hon. Senators, pursuant to provisions of Standing Order No.66 (3) , the putting of the question to this particular Bill is deferred to the next sitting of the House. (Putting of the question on the Bill deferred) November 28, 2024 SENATE DEBATES 69

Now, having earlier rearranged the Orders to accommodate that Bill, we will resume. We dealt with the Committee of the Whole up to Order Number 17.Clerk, call out Order No 18. (The Clerk-at-the-Table consulted with the Speaker) Now, hon. Senators, the County Assembly's Pension Scheme Bill, (Senate Bills No. 14...

THE ENVIRONMENT LAWS (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.23 OF 2024). November 28, 2024 SENATE DEBATES 70 ADOPTION OF REPORT ON DISCRIMINATION IN PAYMENT OF HARDSHIP AND ENHANCED HOUSE ALLOWANCE TO TEACHERS IN KILIFI AND TAITA TAVETA COUNTIES ADOPTION OF AUDIT REPORTS ON FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF VARIOUS COUNTY EXECUTIVES ADOPTION OF...

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Sen. Mungatana, MGH Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I wish to indicate to the House that on behalf of the Vice-Chairperson of the Mediation Committee, I wish to move the Bill on the Division of the Revenue--- (Several Senators stood up in their places) November 27, 2024 SENATE DEBATES...

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, first, I take this opportunity---

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I indicated to the House that I am standing in for the Vice-Chairman of the Mediation Committee on the Division of Revenue (Amendment) Bill 2024, (National Assembly Bills No.38 of 2024) . Before I move the Motion, I wanted to take...

Sen. Mungatana, MGHbehalf in that Committee. There was need to approve a version that would allow the National Treasury to produce and allocate approved amounts to the counties that were available. It would not make sense for us to stick to a hardline position when, in fact, the National Treasury...

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity to also add my voice to the report of the Mediation Committee. I have followed very keenly the contributions that have been made by my colleagues who have taken time to peruse the report. It is true that...

We are back to the Motion. Last but not the least, Sen. Wambua proceed. (Resumption of debate on Motion)

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity to also add my voice to the report of the Mediation Committee. I have followed very keenly the contributions that have been made by my colleagues who have taken time to peruse the report. It is true that we are living...

The decision of Parliament on how that money is shared must never be influenced by the plans or aspirations of the national Government. It must be a very objective decision made by Parliament because both governments belong to this country. I want to say two things about the utilization of...

they did not prepare those reports. Somebody else prepared and they were asked to sign because the person who prepared was not authorized to sign.There is a casualness in the handling of county resources. That must be stopped. Our governors must know if they do not know, that they do...

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Hon. Senators, I call upon the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries, Sen. (Dr.) Murango, to move the Motion. November 27, 2024 SENATE DEBATES 44 Sen. Mungatana, MGH than even when I was moving this Report. So, I truly thank hon. Members and...

Thank you, Sen. Mungatana. (Putting of the Question on the Motion deferred) Clerk, please, call the next Order. November 27, 2024 SENATE DEBATES 45 CONSIDERATION OF NATIONAL ASSEMBLY AMENDMENTS TO THE COTTON INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 5 OF 2023)

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for your generosity. I come from a cotton growing zone. I am a member of the Seventh-day Adventist Church and the history of the Seventh-day Adventist Church is synonymous with the history of cotton growing in my region. When a pioneer...

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Asante sana Bi. Spika wa Muda kwa kunipa nafasi hii nitoe maoni yangu kuhusu sheria hii mpya. Natangaza kutoka Seneti leo kwamba hii sheria inatangaza mwanzo mpya kwa sekta ya maji Kenya. Tumetengeneza sheria ya kuwezesha wawekezaji wa kibinafsi ambao watashirikiana na serikali gatuzi na mashirika mengine...

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, thank you very much for giving me this opportunity to reply to this Motion. I want to thank the honourable Members who have contributed immensely to this Motion. It started last week and today it is coming to an end. I thank Sen....

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, thank you very much for giving me this opportunity to make my contribution on the audit reports of the various counties that have been mentioned there, including Amatsi Water Services Company Limited, Bomet Water Company Limited, Gusii Water and Sanitation Company Limited, October...

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Mr. Speaker, Sir, I take this opportunity to thank you for giving me a chance to also make my comments on this mediated version of the Sugar Bill (National Assembly Bills No.34 of 2022) . May I congratulate the Mediation Committee for the wonderful work they have...

Sen. Mungatana, MGH On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Mungatana, MGH This is a dignified House. Is the Senator for Kiambu County in order to create a parallel between a proper mediation process? A Bill that October 23, 2024 SENATE DEBATES 30 Sen. Mungatana, MGHoriginates from the National Assembly comes to the Senate, the Senate raises issues, and...

Sen. Mungatana, MGH On a point of Order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, let us be dignified in this House and let us be honest to ourselves irrespective of where we are standing in this matter of impeachment. I have a lot of respect for Sen. Thang’wa. He is our Chairperson in the Senate Committee on...

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, on a point of order.

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I was rising to request the Hon. Member to observe that the person I voted against was breaking the Constitution by discriminating against the people of Tana River County by championing for the interest from his region against the specific provisions of Article...

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Asante sana, Bw. Spika. Swali langu kwa mshahidi; umeelezea Bunge la Seneti kwamba, wafanyikazi wa Serikali hawakubaliwi kuchukua pesa kama zawadi. Lakini wafanyikazi wa Serikali wanakubaliwa kuchukua zawadi ya aina nyingine. Tena, ukasema katika EACC kuna orodha ya kuorodhesha kila kitu ambacho kinachukuliwa na mfanyikazi yoyote wa...

Sen. Mungatana, MGH Asante, Bw. Spika. Mhe. Mutuse, Mbunge wa Kibwezi mashariki, tufafanulie swala hili. Wakati ambapo Makamu wa Rais alikuwa anazunguka akisema anapigania haki za ‘Murima’ wewe kama Mbunge wa Kibwezi Mashariki unayetoka Gatuzi la Makueni, je ulihisi kama unabaguliwa katika nchi hii ya Kenya? Tueleze vizuri ile tuelewe.