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Sen. Abdul Haji): Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I rise as the Chairman of the Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights. In the morning, we had our report placed before the House. Upon consultation with Members of the Committee, I would like to withdraw the proposed amendment from the...

Sen. Abdul Haji) : Sen. Abdul Haji) :the total four. That means that the nominee by the Public Service Commission will be dropped.There is justification of doing that. The Public Service Commission does the shortlisting. Therefore, if it continues to be here, it means it will be playing two roles.For...

Sen. Mumma. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Abdul Haji) : Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, the Senate Majority Leader is misleading this House by claiming that the PPLC is an amorphous organization, yet he is well aware that this is a recognized body in the Political Parties Act. I have served as...

Earlier in the morning, I said that the role of the Public Service Commission (PSC) is to bring in their expertise in Human Resource (HR) . If we drop the nominee from this Commission, where shall we get that type of wisdom considering that they are the experts in the...

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, the proposer of the amendment should have dropped the Law Society of Kenya (LSK) and retained the one for the Public Service Commission (PSC).I oppose the amendment. The Temporary Chairperson ( Sen. Abdul Haji): Sen. Abdul Haji): Is Sen. Sifuna forgetting that the President is, first,...

Sen. Abdul Haji) : Sen. Abdul Haji) :The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Abdul Haji): Senator, that is not a point of order. Sen. Okiya Omtatah is a Member of this House and he has filed a case in court, which Sen. Cheruiyot was referring to. Therefore, I guide you on that.

Sen. Abdul Haji) : Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, please, guide Sen. Maanzo to not be frivolous with his points of orders. I thought he was raising a legal issue. We had explained in the morning on how we find ourselves in this situation and the person who took this matter...

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, the Senate Majority Leader is misleading this House by claiming that the PPLC is an amorphous organization, yet he is well aware that this is a recognized body in the Political Parties Act. I have served as a member of PPLC. Is the Senate Majority Leader...

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I cannot debate Sen. Osotsi when it comes to political parties’ matters considering he knows how to survive in political parties. He survived the last parliamentary term even after falling out with his party leader. He knows a lot about intrigues of political parties. January 19,...

My argument is that you cannot compare the Public Service Commission (PSC) with the PPLC. The Commission is a corporate body established by the Constitution, not a statute and it nominates its members, who get approved by both sides in the National Assembly. We are being misled here.The Temporary Chairperson...

Sen. Abdul Haji) : Sen. Abdul Haji) :Sen. Mumma, who has every right to move this amendment, has denounced her membership from the Committee. I appeal to you more and because of you being a legal mind, my sister, I invite you and Sen. Osotsi to read Article 259 on...

Sen. Abdul Haji): Asante, Bw. Mwenyekiti wa Muda, kwa kunipa fursa hii. Nikiangalia marekebisho yaliyoletwa na Sen. Mumma, ninapatwa na shida, yeye kusema ya kwamba katika Jopo la Uteuzi angependa kumwondoa mwakilishi wa Tume ya Utumishi wa Umma. Ningemwomba kwa unyenyekevu aweze kuondoa hayo marekebisho kwa sababu mwakilishi wa Tume...

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I accept your guidance.

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, please, guide Sen. Maanzo to not be frivolous with his points of orders. I thought he was raising a legal issue. We had explained in the morning on how we find ourselves in this situation and the person who took this matter to court. With the...

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, my point of order is to challenge Sen. Cheruiyot’s assertion that we fall on default mechanisms, since the Chairperson of JLAC has withdrawn the amendment. The Order Paper had the JLAC amendment and it had my amendment to it, an issue I spoke to in the...

It is not my decision as to what will be the eventual arrangement of the Order Paper or what would be the default Bill. That is a decision for the entire House to agree on. I am pushing an argument and persuading Members of the House saying that in my...

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Sen. Abdul Haji) : Sen. Abdul Haji) : Thank you, Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir. I want to address the House on a different perspective. I will borrow from the constitutional perspective as ligated in Petition No.364 of 2020: Okiya Omtatah versus Attorney General and five others. I believe the Committee...

Asante, Bw. Mwenyekiti wa Muda kwa kunipa fursa hii kuchangia mapendekezo ya mabidiliko ya Sen. Mumma. Mapendekezo ya Sen. Mumma yanatilia maanani sehemu zote ambazo ni muhimu katika mchakato huu wa kuchagua makamishna wapya ambao watahudumia jopo la IEBC. Tukiangalia, amependekeza apatikane mke na mume katika maswala ya uwakilishaji katika...

Sen. Abdul Haji) : Mr. Temporary Chairman Sir, for the record I find myself in the very unfamiliar territory where I have to differ with my colleague, Senior Counsel Prof. Ojienda who has gone on record as opposing this amendment. I appeal to the Majority side to rise to the...

Sen. Abdul Haji):In the morning, I argue against it on the same basis that you are arguing. The Chair of the Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights has been convinced and since---My other good neighbour is distracting him. Allow me to have the full attention of my good...

Sen. Abdul Haji):Iwapo Bunge hili la Seneti litawapiga mgongo ama kuwakata miguu, itakuwa tunawaambia Wakenya tume hiyo haina haki ya kufanya kazi kikatiba jinsi ilivyokuwa inafanya.Mimi ninapinga mabadiliko hayo nikisema kwamba Mswada huu uendelee kama ulivyotoka katika Bunge la Kitaifa, ili tuwakikishe kwamba tunafiki malengo ya kidemokrasia na ya Serikali...

Asante, Bw. Mwenyekiti wa Muda, kwa kunipa fursa hii. Nikiangalia marekebisho yaliyoletwa na Sen. Mumma, ninapatwa na shida, yeye kusema ya kwamba katika Jopo la Uteuzi angependa kumwondoa mwakilishi wa Tume ya Utumishi wa Umma. Ningemwomba kwa unyenyekevu aweze kuondoa hayo marekebisho kwa sababu mwakilishi wa Tume ya Utumishi wa...

Sen. Abdul Haji) : Sen. Abdul Haji) :carried, the Chairperson shall leave the Chair and the Chairperson or, if the Chairperson has taken the Speaker’s Chair, the Senator in charge of the Bill, shall report progress to the Senate and shall seek leave to sit again, and a day for...

Sen. Abdul Haji): Sen. Abdul Haji): Bw. Mwenyekiti wa Muda, Sen. (Dr.) Oburu Odinga amesema kuwa Mswada huu ukipitishwa ulivyo, tutakuwa na maandamano mara kwa mara. Kutoka tupate uhuru, kila baada ya miaka tano, huwa kuna maandamano. Tumezoea maandamano. Kwa hivyo, hakuna wakati walio wachache watakubali matokeo ya uchaguzi hata...

Sen. Abdul Haji): Sen. Abdul Haji):What is your point of order, Sen. Osotsi?

Sen. Abdul Haji) : Sen. Abdul Haji) :The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Abdul Haji): Senator for Baringo, unmute your microphone and vote. We cannot hear you.Bw. Mwenyekiti wa Muda,

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Sen. Abdul Haji): Hoja ya nidhamu, Bw. Mwenyekiti wa Muda. Kabla turejelee mjadala huu, ni lazima Seneta wa Nairobi aondoe matamshi aliyosema kuhusu wewe kama kiongozi wa Seneti. Anafaa kuomba msamaha na kuondoa matamshi aliyosema kwenye nukuu za kile kinachoendelea katika Seneti. Ikiwa Seneta hawezi kumwambia Seneta mwenzake kwamba amendanganya,...

Sen. Abdul Haji) : Bw. Mwenyekiti wa Muda, basi wale walio kando yako ni waongo. Naomba radhi kwako kama Mwenyekiti wa Muda lakini wale wanaokuelekeza ambao wamekaa kando yako wanakupotosha. Thank you, Senator. Sen. Veronica Maina, proceed.

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I rise to oppose the amendment proposed by my colleague, Sen. Mumma. It is for the reason that when I look at the reason that was brought from the National Assembly for the amendments of this Bill, it is my view that the proposal by the...

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Sen. Abdul Haji) : Sen. Abdul Haji) : Bw. Mwenyekiti wa Muda, tutaonekana kama tunafanya mzaha ikiwa tutanukuu ukiitwa mwongo, na baada ya wewe kusema vile, anarudia kuwaita wale wanaokushauri hapo waongo. Hilo si jambo nzuri. Ni vizuri aombe msamaha ndio tuonekana tunaheshimu Kanuni tulizozitunga sisi wenyewe. (Loud consultations)

Sen. Abdul Haji) : Yes, Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Abdul Haji) : We will proceed without your vote, Sen. Wamatinga. I am sorry. Let us proceed. (Roll call voting in progress) Hon. Senators, there is a lot of interest in this debate and we seem to...

Asante, Mwenyekiti wa Muda, kwa nafasi hii ambayo umenitunuku. Ni nafasi yangu ya kwanza kutaja au kuchangia pakubwa kuhusiana na swala la IEBC na mchakato mzima wa kikosi cha kuchagua watu hawa. Tume ya Serikali ambayo inahusishwa pakubwa kuajiri watu kazi ni lazima ipewe nafasi yake kikatiba ili iwape Wakenya...

Iwapo Bunge hili la Seneti litawapiga mgongo ama kuwakata miguu, itakuwa tunawaambia Wakenya tume hiyo haina haki ya kufanya kazi kikatiba jinsi ilivyokuwa inafanya.Mimi ninapinga mabadiliko hayo nikisema kwamba Mswada huu uendelee kama ulivyotoka katika Bunge la Kitaifa, ili tuwakikishe kwamba tunafiki malengo ya kidemokrasia na ya Serikali kuhakikisha kwamba...

On a point of order. The Temporary Chairperson ( Sen. Abdul Haji) :Teller of the Noes: Sen. Osotsi, you want to stand on a point of order but you have not indicated here and there is nobody on the Floor. So, can we have Sen. Beatrice Akinyi?

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, for giving me the chance to add my voice to the amendment Bill before the House. Going by the presentation about the Public Service Board, you would think that we did not need other members of the panel and that the PSC would be...

Sen. Abdul Haji):Sen. Dullo, Isiolo County; Sen. Faki, Mombasa County; Sen. Madzayo, Kilifi County; Sen. (Dr.) Oburu, Siaya County; Sen. Omogeni, Nyamira County; Sen. Osotsi, Vihiga County and Sen. Sifuna, Nairobi City County.Teller of the Noes: Bw. Mwenyekiti wa Muda, naunga mkono pendekezo kwamba tupitishe Mswada huu vile ulivyo kwa...

Hoja ya nidhamu, Bw. Mwenyekiti wa Muda. The Temporary Chairperson ( Sen. Abdul Haji) : Sen. Abdul Haji) : What is your point of order, Sen. Faki?

Bw. Mwenyekiti wa Muda, ningependa kumkumbusha Sen. Mundigi ya kwamba hatujafikia wakati wa kupiga kura. Tunajadili mapendekezo ya mabadiliko yaliyopendekezwa na Sen. Mumma. Pili, hakuna majina yaliyopendekezwa. The Temporary Chairperson ( Sen. Abdul Haji) : Sen. Abdul Haji) : Very well. I now call upon the Mover of the Bill

Bw. Mwenyekiti wa Muda, Sen. (Dr.) Oburu Odinga amesema kuwa Mswada huu ukipitishwa ulivyo, tutakuwa na maandamano mara kwa mara. Kutoka tupate uhuru, kila baada ya miaka tano, huwa kuna maandamano. Tumezoea maandamano. Kwa hivyo, hakuna wakati walio wachache watakubali matokeo ya uchaguzi hata wakishindwa. Kwa hivyo, naomba tupitishe Mswada...

Sen. Abdul Haji): Hon. Senators, listen. I think the Members were not attentive on what the Motion was to be. (Loud consultations)Hon. Members! Sen. Sifuna, I want to put the question again. An

Sen. Abdul Haji) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, I beg to move that the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (Amendment) Bill (National Assembly Bill No.49 of 2022) be now read a Third Time. I request the Senator for Nakuru County, Sen. Tabitha Keroche to second. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, what is your...

Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, as it was demonstrated in the morning, we are in the process of building respect from both Houses. I, therefore, rise under Standing Order 46 and demand that the Senator for Kilifi County withdraws his derogatory remarks. Standing Order 46 provides that Messages can move from...

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Sen. Abdul Hajiagencies of the national Government that do many things, yet no significant impact is seen by the people of this country.In the 10 years of devolution, the budget for the Ministry of Agriculture, Livestock, Fisheries and Irrigation in the National Government has kept increasing, while the function is...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the drought situation in the country is a serious problem that needs urgent intervention. I would like to make the following recommendations. Coming from a county that is one of Kenya’s food baskets, the North Rift is approaching a harvesting season. The Government should take advantage...

Sen. Abdul Haji Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would like to take this opportunity to extend my warmest congratulations to the President and his Kenya Kwanza Team for their well-earned victory in the just concluded general elections. In the same breath, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would also like to...