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Sen. Cherargei Madam Temporary Speaker, I request for some time to check on my Statement. MANAGEMENT OF ROAD PROJECTS BY KURA

Sen. Cherargei Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker for this opportunity. I want to support this Statement. It looks like the problems that KEMSA is facing are serious and endemic with time. It is unfortunate that as we talk as a country, KEMSA - because of reactionary measures that they are...

Sen. Cherargei Madam Temporary Speaker, for purposes of the HANSARD, I think Sen. Kavindu Muthama should be specific because we have so many Mutuas. She said that Mutua fired over 200 employees, but I think she should be specific. Which Mutua?

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Sen. Cherargei Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I would request that I read the Statement on the issue of pricing of fertilizer in the country. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. (Prof) Kamar) Start with Kenya Urban Ruaral Authority (KURA) . Sen. Cherargei At least there was some correction on that one....

Sen. Cherargei Madam Deputy Speaker, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.48 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries on the escalating price of fertilizer in the country. In the Statement, the Committee should-

Sen. Cherargei On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Looking at the gravity of this report and its sensitive nature--- Every county has been affected by this. Three months ago, I lost two young women from Nandi under unclear circumstances. November 3, 2021 SENATE DEBATES Sen. CherargeiTherefore, it...

Sen. Cherargei Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, as I apologise. Sen. Olekina should at least in future avoid shouting across the aisle. I withdraw and apologise.

Sen. Cherargei Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. Where I come from, Nandi County, is the source of champions. We only depend on sports and agriculture, which is on its deathbed. As you are aware, the cost of fertilizer is now Kshs.5,000, and, therefore, we rely on sports only. It is...

Sen. Cherargei Madam Deputy Speaker, I rise pursuant to Standing Order No.48 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget regarding award of tenders by the National Treasury under the specially permitted procurement procedure. In the Statement, the committee should- November 2, 2021 SENATE DEBATES

Sen. Cherargei Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. There has been ongoing school‟s unrest and incidents of fires across the nation. However, in Nandi we have not reported many incidents. I have seen a number of schools have gone on unrest somewhere in Nandi Hills sub-county among other areas. Madam Deputy...

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Sen. Cherargei Madam Deputy Speaker, I urge Members to be more serious with the business of this House because we are approaching the end of the 12th Parliament. Unfortunately, many things are still pending. There are many petitions that we have from the public, which we have not considered. It...

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Sen. Cherargei Madam Temporary Speaker, I rise to support the report of the Committee on Finance and Budget on Kenya‟s public debt stock. This House had requested the Committee on Finance and Budget to inquire on the status of public stock of debt in Kenya and its implications on Kenya‟s...

Madam Temporary Speaker, I almost asked whether it was in order for, Sen. Cherargei, to refer to the Speaker as his neighbor. However, since he has finished, I will leave it to lie. The stock piling of debt is a matter of grave national concern. At the moment, the total...

Japan can auction the assets of Japan. Likewise, the Federal Reserve System in America cannot auction the State because it is the State‟s treasury.Therefore, one of the reasons why that debt in those countries will be sustainable even if it is high compared to the GDP is because it is...

Madam Temporary Speaker, I rise to support the report of the Committee on Finance and Budget on Kenya‟s public debt stock. This House had requested the Committee on Finance and Budget to inquire on the status of public stock of debt in Kenya and its implications on Kenya‟s development agenda....

expected the Committee on Finance and Budget to dig deep and tell us the implication of debt on Kenya‟s development agenda.Nonetheless, this report makes for good reading because we have got submissions from various stakeholders. Unfortunately, many of the stakeholders are Government entities and agencies that are quite involved in...

should be geared towards development. I am glad that now we are having a candid conversation to see how we spent or squandered the money.Even in a family, assuming the head of the family is a man because even a woman can head a family, if the man, who is...

I saw that a lifestyle audit has been commenced in one of the State corporations. I thank this House for passing Sen. Farhiya‟s Bill; The Lifestyle Audit Bill. The next Government must within 100 days give an order for lifestyle audit to everyone who is at the level of director...

We should encourage our Maasai sons that they can go to Oxford and Harvard and come back to become dairy farmers. Not by roaming around the plains of Kisaju, but by going into high value and hybrid production of milk and beef.Whenever you go to the United States of America...

Thank you Madam Temporary Speaker, for giving the opportunity to contribute to this Report. There has been a lot of effort to bring down the commercial borrowings. According to data provided by the Central Bank of Kenya (CBK) , the commercial debt in June, 2019 was 36 percent of our...

need leadership that will take this forward to ensure that this process continues and we continue replacing very expensive debt with cheaper debt.Madam Temporary Speaker, I also want to bring to your attention the fact that Kenyans always demand for development, but avoid paying taxes. If all Kenyans who are...

It is Kshs140 million as the National Government Constituencies Development Funds (NG-CDF) . The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Nyamunga) Per person?

Yes, Kshs140 million per constituency per year. If that money is put to good use, it can build many good schools and pay bursaries for children who are November 2, 2021 SENATE DEBATES

unable to pay fees. It can do many things. As a member of the public who has the power to ensure that the right person comes to power, are they in control of who they elect as an MP? When the current MP asks you to vote for them, will...

feasibility study on whatever projects we undertake, so that there is good value for money.This Report recommends that the National Treasury should publish, every three months, a comprehensive debt serving expenditure. That will help people to see what we are investing in and bring about more transparency. In case of...

Madam Temporary Speaker, I rise to support this Report of the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget. The Report is good because it allows us to examine further what we are doing wrong. Sir Winston Churchill once said that you can never tax a country to prosperity. Allow me to...

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The President told us that, as we go out there drumming support for the preferred presidential candidate for next year, the first thing that should come to mind is that the Executive must be honest.I have been candid in my submission that we are so corrupt. In fact, the Executive...

expect to build the housing sector? We need to seriously think and realign our existing resources, so that we can live within our means.Madam Temporary Speaker, many people have been reduced to beggars when they attempted to work with county governments and do businesses with them. Many Kenyans do not...

allowing the West to continue controlling even how we live, we will be digging our graves deeper.Yesterday, I was saddened while watching the COP26. In this country, when you talk about ending deforestation, some people say you are killing their businesses. They go ahead to get licenses to continue cutting...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to reply. I wish to thank all Senators who have contributed to this Motion. The other issue I wanted to bring to your attention is the fact that sometimes contracts have no proper exit clauses. In case of poor performance,...

On a point of order, Madam Temporary Speaker. The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Nyamunga) What is your, point of order, Sen. Wambua?

Madam Temporary Speaker, the Senator for Nandi County cannot get away with this. The Senator for Kitui County strongly believes in women leadership. However, the Senator for Kitui County is also very keen on fighting corruption wherever it rears its ugly head. Whether that corruption is being perpetuated by a...

Madam Temporary Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order No.61 The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Nyamunga) Hon. Senators, I defer the putting of the question to a later date. (Putting of the Question on the Bill deferred) November 2, 2021 SENATE DEBATES THE COUNTY OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.17 OF 2021)...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I beg to move that The County Oversight and Accountability Bill (Senate Bills No.17 of 2021) be now read a Second Time. I had already moved this Bill. This is among the Bills that suffered the sibling rivalry between the National Assembly and the Senate....

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. From the outset, I want to congratulate and thank the Senator for Narok County for coming up with this Bill. You know that for a long time, the battle between the Senate and county governors on issues of accountability and oversight has been really entrenched....

Sen. Cherargei Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for the discretion. I want to thank the Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights. When the investigations started, we were able to visit Seattle, United States of America (USA) to engage the Boeing Company courtesy of your office. When I was...

Sen. Cherargei Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Senior Counsel does not need assistance from me. In the Committee records, there is a report by the Ethiopian Civil Aviation Authority (ECAA) that has pointed out that there was a fault with that 787-8 map. Another report was done by the Federal Aviation...

Sen. Cherargei Mr. Speaker, Sir, can I be given up to Thursday, so that I crosscheck the records with the Secretariat? I can then report the wisdom of the Committee to the House using Senate Standing Orders 48 (4) . We went to follow up on the issues of compensation...

Sen. Cherargei Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order 47 (1) to make a Statement on an issue of general topical concern and national importance, namely, the brutal murder of athlete Agnes Chebet Tirop at her home in Iten, Elgeyo- Marakwet County. Agnes Tirop was born on October...

Sen. Cherargei Madam Deputy Speaker, I forgot one small detail. For any Member who would like to support the family, we have a fundraiser tomorrow. The funeral will be on Saturday. If any Member would like to attend or support the family, I request that they kindly see me.

Sen. Cherargei Madam Temporary Speaker, thank you for this opportunity. This is a national concern. The unsustainable public debt we have as a country continues to be a threat not only to the economic development of this Republic, but October 19, 2021 SENATE DEBATES 48 Sen. Cherargeialso the security and...

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Sen. Cherargei Thank you, Sen. Wario. Yes, Senate Majority Leader.

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Sen. Cherargei Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you for this opportunity. I laud Sen. (Dr.) Mbito for this opportunity. As my brother Sen. (Eng.) Mahamud has said, it is sad that 60 years down the line since independence, we have not been independent in ensuring food security. It behooves all Kenyans...

Sen. Cherargei Mr. Speaker, Sir, what I am noting is a statement of fact. In law, we call it a judicial notice. It is in the public domain. I thank Sen. Abdul M. Haji for that, but he should advise him to be more active in drought intervention.

Sen. Cherargei Mr. Speaker, Sir, when you are giving directions, I would appreciate if my colleagues would keep quite so that I can get your directions. They are also shouting like it is a market place. I conclusion, one of the items on the Big Four Agenda is food security....

Sen. Cherargei On a point of order! The Speaker (Hon. Lusaka) Hon. Senator, what is out of order? Sen. Cherargei Mr. Speaker, Sir, is it in order for the Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. to say other people are doing rallies yet we saw him the other day in a political...

Sen. Cherargei On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. was eloquently raising his point. However, is it in order for him to allude that you must go to State House to be given a budget for anything in this country? I thought Parliament is in...

Sen. Cherargei Madam Temporary Speaker, before I make a few remarks, allow me to say that we had deliberated on this Bill before it was brought here. Madam Temporary Speaker, allow me to convey my heartfelt condolences. This morning we lost a track maestro by the name Ms. Agnes Tirop...

Sen. Cherargei Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I also want to thank the Deputy Senate Majority Leader, Sen. Dullo, for bringing this timely Statement as the month-long registration exercise of new voters continues. There is projection of around six million new voters for 2022 general elections. The Independent Electoral...

Sen. Cherargei Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I do not know whether it was a point of order or information. The Temporary Speaker (Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe) It was point of information. Sen. Cherargei Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, mine is an opinion. If my learned Senior Counsel would listen carefully, I used...

Sen. Cherargei Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. From the outset, I thank Sen. (Dr.) Ali for this wonderful proposal. It is in the public domain that one of the main problems we face in counties, apart from the lowest standards of health in terms of facilities and client service, is...

Sen. Cherargei Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I know that you have already welcomed them. However, on my own behalf as the Senator for Nandi County, I welcome the MCAs and technical staff from Nandi County Assembly. May I take this opportunity to tell them to feel free and welcome...

Sen. Cherargei Mr. Speaker, Sir, technically, I am their “father” because I am here on their behalf. They are my people. I am proud of them and that is why I refer to them as “my MCAs”.

Sen. Cherargei Yes, Mr. Speaker, Sir, or ‘our MCAs.’ I am happy that Sen. Shiyonga wants to ‘scoop,’ to include herself by using the word “our”. Finally, going into the future, let us partner because our rules complement. We need to work together for the betterment of Nandi County and...

Sen. Cherargei Sen. M. Kajwang’, was making very brilliant and weighty issues and I was keenly following. Could he confirm to the country whether he is aware that the Senate Majority Leader, the great Senator of West Pokot, Hon. Samuel Poghisio, sees President Uhuru Kenyatta on television yet he is...

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Sen. Cherargei Hon. Senators, I hereby report to the Senate that a Petition has been submitted through the Clerk by Isaac Siko Nyakiriga, a citizen of the Republic of Kenya. As you are aware under Article 119 (1) of the Constitution: “Every person has a right to petition Parliament to...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. You will remember when we were discussing the earlier Petition I mentioned that while the Constitution allows any citizen to petition any House of Parliament sometimes this line is a bit blurred. In my humble opinion, such are the petitions that should be considered...

Sen. Cherargei Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I wish to support this Petition. The Petition is rightfully before the Senate. I wish there was a bit of additional information that the petitioner had attached to the Petition, especially the letter of appointment. This facilitates confirmation of his appointment. This...

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Sen. Cherargei Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me this chance to also just make my comments on this issue and the good work being done by our colleague, Sen. Kasanga. (Sen. (Dr.) Ali spoke off record) I am being reminded of your other title which I did...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I think it is in order to support Sen. Kasanga because she has done very well in this aspect. She has done better than many doctors. That is the reality of the matter. Mental health is a very serious disease that people take lightly. People think...

Sen. CherargeiChina to get knowledge which is important. Teachers impact the knowledge. So, I congratulate them wherever they are and in whatever they are doing.[The Temporary Speaker (Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe) left the Chair] [The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Pareno) in the Chair] Sen. Cherargei Let us now have the Senate Majority...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, I wish to join my colleagues in congratulating Sen. (Dr.) Musuruve for bringing this Statement. It is a bit belated but nevertheless, I am sure she appreciates the role of being a teacher. Most of us have passed through the hands of teachers for many...

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Sen. CherargeiMr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, as State officer, one shall not directly participate in any tender under this document. This is to avoid conflict of interest and avoid breaking the Public Procurement and Disposal Act. This is an import that has already been given under the Public Procurement and Disposal...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity to reply to this Bill. I beg to reply. I also wish to thank His Excellency Uhuru Muigai Kenyatta for being in the forefront in ensuring that infrastructure projects in this country are fast-tracked and that whatever borrowing that...

Sen. Cherargei On a point of Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, The Temporary Speaker (Sen. (Dr.) Lelegwe) What is it, Sen. Cherargei? Sen. Cherargei Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I rise under Standing Order 48 (4) . Yesterday, I sought direction from the Chair. Two weeks ago, there were two critical Statements....

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Sen. Cherargei I am ready to be informed by my senior, Dr. Zani.

Sen. Cherargei Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I plead ignorance on that because I have never been a member of the ODM. Sen. (Dr.) Zani is a senior Member and I agree to be informed. I am happy that they have active diaspora caucus and we are also following in the...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I wish that the current speaker would get his facts right before he exposes what he might not know. He should know that ODM is the leading party with structures very well stipulated. We are the only party that has a wing for the youth, women,...

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Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me a chance to speak. I wish from the onset to say that I really support this Bill and congratulate Sen. (Dr.) Kang’ata who has aptly moved this Bill and Sen. Cherargei who has really gone to expound it in details, giving...

development by bringing remittances home, building homes, coming back to ensure that certain projects are done and offering employment to many people. This is very critical.The second one is to ensure that they are able to mobilize and have associations that are well formed and well known. I know that...

The credit to the private sector as a share of our Gross Domestic Product (GDP) is very critical. How much credit did they put into the private sector as a shared GDP, the number of mobile transactions, which are very high, the value of these mobile transactions and the money...

Sen. Cherargei Madam Temporary Speaker, is it in order for the distinguished Senator for Nairobi City County to continuously refer to you as Mr. Temporary Speaker instead of Madam Temporary Speaker? I think he is out of order. The Temporary Speaker (Sen. (Dr.) Zani) What do you have to say,...