Judith Ramaita Pareno

Sen. Pareno[The Deputy Speaker (Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki) left the Chair] September 18, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 39 Sen. Pareno the time we have, when it will resume, we would have thought enough on what we really want.Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I say this because of the experience I have had with...

Sen. Pareno Niinawapongeza wanakamati kwa kupendekeza kwamba pesa hizi zitolewe kwa wingi katika siku saba zijazo. The Deputy Speaker (Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki) : Asante sana. Let us have the distinguished Senator of Embu County. (Loud consultations)

Order, Senator of Wajir! Whatever you are transacting there is not part of our Business. September 17, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 60 Sen. ParenoAn (Loud consultations)

Order! You are being asked ni nani panya, na ni nani paka? (Laughter) Sen. Pareno Mr. Speaker, Sir, the President does not have money to give to counties, which I agree because it is not his money; it is the money that has been collected from the people of this...

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Sen. Parenomany unknown Kenyans are we hearing about and mourning? There are so many, and they are neither hon. Okoth nor Governor (Dr.) Laboso, and they are also dying in the same way.Therefore, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, if we must help this country, we should not stand up and make...

Sen. Parenonot easy to investigate businessmen who are feeding people poison. However, he took it upon himself to disclose to Kenyans that we are eating poisoned food.Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is so serious and scary. I make a personal confession that from that day, I stopped buying meat from the...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I thank Sen. Seneta for bringing this Statement. When that story ran on NTV, it was christened ‘The Red Alert’. It was scary considering that there is an upsurge of cancer cases and other lifestyle diseases in the country. This is an interesting country because...

Sen. Pareno) : Sen. Pareno) : Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by deleting clause 16 and substituting therefor the following new clause— Remuneration of Trustees. Sen. Pareno) : Madam Temporary Chairperson, I propose that my amendment be dropped because it is similar to...

Sen. Pareno) : Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move that Clause 21 and 22 be part of the Order Paper. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Pareno) : Kindly repeat what you have just said. Division will be at the end. Clauses 11-16 (Question, that Clauses 11, 12, 13, 14, 15...

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by deleting clause 16 and substituting therefor the following new clause— Remuneration of Trustees.

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I propose that my amendment be dropped because it is similar to the Committee’s amendment. July 25, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 30

Sen. Pareno): Sakaja: Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, Clause 23 of the Bill be amended in subclause (2) by deleting the word “shall” appearing immediately after the word “administrator” and substituting therefore with the word “may”. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Pareno) :...

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move– THAT, Clause 18 of the Bill be amended by inserting the following new subclause immediately after subclause (4) — (4a) The chief executive officer shall hold office for a term of three years and may be eligible for re-appointment for a further final...

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move that Clause 21 and 22 be part of the Order Paper. The Temporary Chairperson ( Sen. Pareno) : Sen. Pareno) : Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move: THAT, Clause 46 of the Bill be amended in the introductory phrase in subclause (2)...

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move that Clauses 21 and 22 be part of the Bill. The Temporary Chairperson ( Sen. Pareno) : Sen. Pareno) : Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move – THAT, Clause 48 of the Bill be amended in subclause (1) by deleting the words...

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The Temporary Chairperson ( Sen. Pareno): Sen. Pareno): Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to withdraw proposed amendment to Clause 23 so that it stays as it is. The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Pareno) : The proposed amendment is dropped. (Proposed amendment to Clause 23 by Sen. Sakaja dropped) New Clause 59

Sen. Pareno) : Madam, Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Schedule is amended in paragraph 2 by deleting subparagraphs (1) and (2) and substituting therefor the following new subparagraphs— The Division will be at the end. Clause 22

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, Clause 22 of the Bill be amended in subclause (1) by inserting the following new paragraph immediately paragraph (f) - (fa) submit to the Board a report on a quarterly basis, of the reconciliations with respect to the funds held by the...

Sakaja: Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, Clause 23 of the Bill be amended in subclause (2) by deleting the word “shall” appearing immediately after the word “administrator” and substituting therefore with the word “may”. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairperson ( Sen. Pareno) : Sen....

Sen. Pareno) : Sen. Pareno) :In West Pokot County, the Committee went on an assessment of county initiated road projects which were undertaken by the county government using funds availed through The Division of Revenue Act, County Allocation of Revenue Act and the Roads Maintenance Levy Fund.While in West Pokot...

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move that – THAT, Clause 44 of the Bill be amended by deleting subclause (1) and substituting therefor the following new subclause-

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Sen. Pareno): On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. There is something extremely significant that the Chairperson of the Committee on Roads and Transportation has raised in his Statement. Allow me to also congratulate him for that detailed Statement. It is just a few hours ago that I...

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move – THAT, Clause 48 of the Bill be amended in subclause (1) by deleting the words “two years” appearing immediately after the words “imprisonment for a term not exceeding” at the end of subclause and substituting therefor the words “five years.” (Question of...

Sen. Pareno) : Sen. Pareno) :Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I humbly request the Chair for the Committee on Roads and Transportation to assist. He should be part of ensuring that upgrading most of the roads in Nandi County to bitumen standards is done. I believe in his Committee. I hope...

Sen. Pareno) : Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Let me take this opportunity to thank the Chair of the Committee on Roads and Transportation for that wonderful report. I wish that after visiting those counties, more so Isiolo County, they would come up with recommendations that will solve the...

Governments Retirement Scheme Bill( National Assembly Bill No. 10 of 2018) and seeks leave to sit again tomorrow.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said Report.

Is the Motion seconded? You request a Senator to second.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I request Sen. Sakaja to second.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to)

We now go back to Order No.7 which is Statements under part two under Standing Order No. 51 (1) P to be given by the Chairperson Standing Committee on Energy, Roads and transportation. (Resumption of Statements) ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMITTEE ON ENERGY, ROADS AND TRANSPORTATION

Sen. Pareno Mheshimiwa Spika, ningeomba kumjulisha mwenzangu kwamba hatulipi stima, tunalipia matumizi ya umeme. Hapo awali, alieleza kwamba tunalipa stima. (Laughter)

Sen. Parenoneed to be recruited, which may lead to abuse of the recruitment process in the absence of open and objective recruitment processes.” This is sad. If you do not even have a management system to know how many workers you have employed and how many you will require, you...

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The Mover to reply.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I beg to reply. Let me start by thanking all the Senators who contributed. These include Sen. Cherargei, who seconded; Sen. Ochillo-Ayacko, Sen. (Dr.) Musuruve, Sen. Halake, Sen. Seneta, Sen. M. Kajwang', Sen. (Eng.) Mahamud, Sen. Farhiya, Sen. Were, Sen. Olekina, Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri;...

levels. Various issues like using technology and quarterly reports have been canvassed here. Also, ensuring that the system is simple, can be understood and can enhance revenue collection because this is very key within counties.With those remarks, I beg to reply. Pursuant to Standing Order No.61 (3) I request that...

Thank you, Sen. (Dr.) Zani. I defer the putting of the question to tomorrow. (Putting of the Question on the Bill deferred) THE COUNTY HALL OF FAME BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 39 OF 2018) THE PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.1 OF 2019) THE CONSTITUTION OF KENYA (AMENDMENT)...

Mr. Temporary Speaker Sir, I beg to move that The Commission on Administrative Justice (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bill No.6 of 2019) be now read a Second Time. Before I delve into the content of the Bill, I would like to give a background that led to the publication of this...

Order, Sen. Were! You will have a balance of 56 minutes when this Order appears on the Order Paper. ADJOURNMENT

Hon. Senators, it is now 6.30

Sen. Pareno On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Pareno Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Earlier on, you had rightly advised that when a matter is before a committee, they should inform the elected Senator. In some of the counties, there is more than one delegate. For example, Kajiado County has three. We will be discriminating against nominated...

Sen. Pareno(Laughter) Committee on Warehousing Receipt Bill. Definitely, we have a chief mediator in the July 4, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 35 Sen. Pareno We do not need to belabour the pain. This is the way to go. The Constitution had provided for mediation in case of disagreements; not really disagreements,...

Sen. Farhiya, you may proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for allowing me to contribute on the mediation issue. Before I proceed, I would like to join you in welcoming the students from Mary Leakey Girls School, Kiambu County. In this country, we are very much ahead on a lot of aspects, but in terms...

Proceed, Sen. Farhiya. I hope you are not inciting along gender lines. (Laughter)

Sen. Pareno Madam Temporary Speaker, I rise to support this Statement. I would like to inform this House that the Committee on Education had a session with the Chief Executive Officer of the TSC, Ms. Nancy Macharia. What has been reported here is not what is on the ground. What...

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Sen. Pareno Hon. Senators, I would like to acknowledge the presence, in the Public Gallery this afternoon, of visiting students and teachers from Sawagongo Boys High School, Siaya County. In our usual tradition of receiving and welcoming visitors to Parliament, I extend a warm welcome to them. On behalf of...

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Sen. Pareno) : Sen. Pareno) : Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT Clause 6 of the Bill be amended-

Sen. Pareno) : Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT Clause 9 of the Bill be amended – Division will be at the end. Clauses 12 and 13 (Question, that Clauses 12 and 13 be part of the Bill, proposed) Clause 14

Sen. Pareno) : Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT Clause 19 of the Bill be amended in subclause (1) by inserting the words “county executive committee members responsible for finance” immediately after the words “responsible for finance”. (Question of the amendment proposed) The Temporary Chairperson (Sen. Pareno) :...

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Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT the Bill be amended by deleting clause 33. (Question, that Clause 33 be deleted, proposed) The Temporary Chairperson ( Sen. Pareno) : Sen. Pareno) :The indicators for the assessment, by the Commission, of the effort of a county government in the implementation...

The Schedule THE PRESERVATION OF HUMAN DIGNITY AND ENFORCEMENT OF ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL RIGHTS BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 27 OF 2018)

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT, the Bill be amended by deleting Clause 5. (Question, that Clause 5 be deleted, proposed) The Temporary Chairperson ( Sen. Pareno) : Sen. Pareno) : Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT Clause 2 of the Bill be amended by-

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT Clause 6 of the Bill be amended-

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT Clause 8 of the Bill be amended–

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT Clause 9 of the Bill be amended –

Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT Clause 13 of the Bill be amended in– June 6, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 43

Sen. Pareno) : Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT Clause 5 of the Bill be deleted and substituted with the following new clause— Division will be at the end. Clauses 16 to 18 (Question, that Clauses 16 to 18 be part of the Bill Proposed) Clause 19

Sen. Pareno) : Madam Temporary Chairperson, I beg to move- THAT clause 6 of the Bill be deleted and substituted with the following new clause— Powers of the Board Division will be at the end. Clauses 20 to 24 June 6, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 44

Sen. Pareno) : Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said Report. Sen. Kibiru seconded. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) We are on The Statutory Instruments (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No.24 of 2018) .

I am sorry Madam Temporary Chairperson. I will redo that. Pursuant to Standing Order No. 148, I beg to move that the Committee do report progress on its consideration of the Statutory Instruments (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No. 24 of 2018) and seek leave to sit again tomorrow. Sen. Kibiru...

Sen. Kihika Madam Temporary Chairperson, pursuant to Standing Order No. 148, I beg to move that the Committee do report progress on its consideration of the Preservation of Human Dignity and Enforcement of Economic and Social Rights Bill (Senate Bills No. 27 of 2018) and seek leave to sit again...

Sen. Parenoage of life. This is simple medication that can be given at the hospital, health centre and dispensary. Many of these children die unnoticed.Madam Temporary Speaker, the Mover is trying to seek that we now provide centres, particularly when we look at the prevalence rates of this disease. It...

Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee of the Whole on the said report. Sen. Kibiru seconded. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) THE IMPEACHMENT PROCEDURE BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 15 OF 2018) Sen. Pareno Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to...

Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee of the Whole on the said report. Sen. Kibiru seconded. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) THE PRESERVATION OF HUMAN DIGNITY AND ENFORCEMENT OF ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL RIGHTS BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 27 OF...

Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said Report. Sen. Kibiru seconded. June 6, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 69

Sen. ParenoDespite the picture that has been painted in support of this Motion, I wish to acknowledge the positive efforts that have gone towards responding to Sickle Cell Disease and other blood disorders in Kenya. For example, in Kisumu County, under the leadership of Governor (Prof.) Anyang'-Nyong'o, remarkable progress has...

Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said report. Sen. Kibiru seconded. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to) THE TEA BILL (SENATE BILLS NO. 36 OF 2018) Sen. Pareno Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to report progress that the...

Madam Temporary Speaker, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Committee in the said Report. Sen. Kibiru seconded. (Question proposed) (Question put and agreed to)

Let us move on to the next Order. ESTABLISHMENT OF NATION-WIDE CENTRES AND SATELLITE CLINICS FOR SICKLE CELL DISEASE June 6, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 70

of health, which includes the right to health care services, including reproductive health care; NOTING THAT, Parliament enacted the Health Act (2017) whose objects encompass the need to establish a national health system at the national and county levels, as well as to facilitate, in a progressive and equitable manner,...

Sen. Seneta was on the Floor. She is not here and had only a balance of two minutes. We will move to the next contributor who is the Senator of Kisii County, Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri.

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to contribute to what I call a very important disease in the lives of our young people and adults. The Motion is appropriately before this House because it speaks to the condition called Sickle Cell Anemia. In some other jurisdictions,...

is the one that causes the disease in children when they are born and in the young adults. It causes crises in the adults throughout their lives if they can survive all that period.Madam Temporary Speaker, unfortunately, this is a peculiar disease to Africans. In Kenya, it is predominantly in...

age of life. This is simple medication that can be given at the hospital, health centre and dispensary. Many of these children die unnoticed.Madam Temporary Speaker, the Mover is trying to seek that we now provide centres, particularly when we look at the prevalence rates of this disease. It is...

previous ones. Marriage counselling has a benefit for doing screening first and it is important.The Motion says now that we know that what contributes to infant mortality and the ones that prevent them from going to school and other places is when they have these multiple crises and infection like...

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to contribute to this important and unique Motion. I thank Sen. Shiyonga for coming up with it. People talk about Tuberculosis (TB) , HIV/AIDs but they forget about Sickle Cell Disease. Madam Temporary Speaker, I had a patient who was...

Hon. Senators, there is no other Member wishing to contribute. Therefore, I call upon the Mover to reply.

Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to reply to the Motion. I would like to thank you and Members who have contributed to this Motion. Members who contributed to the Motion include Sen. (Dr.) Zani who seconded it, Sen. (Dr.) Milgo, Sen. Seneta, Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri...

Despite the picture that has been painted in support of this Motion, I wish to acknowledge the positive efforts that have gone towards responding to Sickle Cell Disease and other blood disorders in Kenya. For example, in Kisumu County, under the leadership of Governor (Prof.) Anyang'-Nyong'o, remarkable progress has been...

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Sen. Pareno Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank you for allowing me to make a comment on this petition. I am a Member of the Committee on National Security, Defence and Foreign Relations that handled the petition by the residents of the Teri B Ranch. We did our best as a...

Sen. Pareno Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg to give notice of the following Motion- WHEREAS Article 43 of the Constitution of Kenya provides for economic and social rights enjoyed by every person, including the May 30, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 7 Sen. Parenoright to the highest attainable standard of health and...

Sen. Pareno Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. We discussed a lot about this matter yesterday. There was a directive that the Committee should give something tangible to this House because there is a crisis. You cannot interdict half the teachers of a zone. Their salaries have been stopped and those...

Sen. Pareno Mr. Speaker, Sir, I join you in welcoming Kangaru Girls High School. We used to hear about Kangaru Girls High School when we were in secondary school. We all hoped that we would join Kangaru Girls High School but ended up in different schools. I am happy that...

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Sen. Pareno I started by mentioning and appreciating him by his name as Sen. Madzayo. I studied Kiswahili and got a principal in Form Six. I would definitely have picked up what he said. All of them contributed very well to this Bill. Again, I appreciate Sen. Madzayo. Probably, he...

Senator, you do not stop until you are asked to, which I am about to do. Sen. ParenoWhoever alleges must prove.

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Sen. Pareno It is so ordered. (Putting of the question on the Bill deferred)

Sen. Pareno What is it, Sen. for Kitui County?

Sen. Pareno We had agreed you make your way here while we were still transacting that order. Is the Statement an emergency?

Sen. Pareno Approach the Chair. (Sen. Wambua approached the Chair) Order, Senators! I will apply my interpretation of Standing Order No.1 very broadly and allow Sen. Wambua to request his Statement. There will be no observations or comments and in less than five minutes. May 29, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 30

By that you have replied. Sen. Pareno Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Pareno On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I further request that you apply your discretion under Standing Order No.1 to allow us, even for a short time, because Sen. Wambua is coming up with a key Statement. He had mentioned to quite a number of Members...

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Sen. Pareno Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, what are you suggesting?