Ledama Olekina

Sen. Olekina Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I wanted to make some comments and support the sentiments of my colleague, Sen. M. Kajwang’. I sit in the CPAIC; this House really needs to take seriously the reports that are coming up, particularly from the committee sittings. On a daily basis, we...

Sen. Olekina Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. On Order No.12, the Election Laws (Amendment) Bill (Senate Bills No. 33 of 2018) , I would like to seek that the matter be held for some time. I am still seeking certain directions, and will later on give the way forward.

Sen. Olekina Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I rise to support the adoption of this very important Motion. I was hoping that every Senator would be here today, because I have sat in all the sessions, apart from either one or two of them, dealing with the issues of...

Sen. Olekinathis country. If we do not rise up to the occasion, the situation in Nairobi will worsen. There are allegations of cartels left, right and centre. If you talk to Gov. Sonko, he will tell you that the cartels are out to destroy him. The Statement by Sen. Sakaja...

Sen. Olekina There is no money out there. Mr. Speaker, Sir, we have to treat this matter as sui generis; something which is unique. What is happening out there? I know that the CS issued a premature circular that might not meet all the thresholds of law. It is time...

Sen. Olekinathemselves because they are unable to pay their bills and service their loans. We must care about them.The Speaker (Hon. Lusaka): I will give a chance to the Chairman of the Committee on Finance and Budget and, as I do so, I think that what Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr....

I will give a chance to the Chairman of the Committee on Finance and Budget and, as I do so, I think that what Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. has raised is very important. That we, as a House, must be careful not to cede our ground, because that is why...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I agree with Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.; that whereas pending bills are a big issue in this country, counties must pay them to the suppliers and the contactors. We must also, in the process, respect the law. The Constitution must be adhered to and respected...

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Sen. Olekina Proceed, Sen. Sakaja.

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Sen. Olekina Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I rise to support the Statement by Sen. Mwaruma. We cannot cry over spilt milk; we already passed that stage. It is fair for us to know which projects are being earmarked to be funded by the money that we are borrowing. I was...

Sen. Olekina Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I need your protection.

Order, Hon. Senators. STATEMENTS FACTS ABOUT THE 2019 POPULATION CENSUS Sen. Olekina Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I rise pursuant to Standing Order 48 (1) to seek a Statement from the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget concerning the recently concluded 2019 Kenya Population and Housing Census by the Kenya National...

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Sen. Olekina Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. On 12th June, it is in the headlines of various newspapers that Strathmore University had defeated Harvard Law School in a competition that was held in Geneva, Switzerland. That was one of the most important days of my life. I was very...

Sen. Olekina Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I rise to support the Statement by my good friend, Sen Khaniri. This House was created to defend the interests of counties and their governments. I do not think it is the role of the national Government to encourage county governments to...

Sen. Olekina Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I am quite in order. Article 189 of this Constitution talks about cooperation between the national and county governments. If the national Government has decided to give a blind eye on things that are happening in our county governments, should we follow suit? I...

Sen. Olekina Can I just finish?

Sen. Olekina Absolutely.

Sen. Olekina It is only fair for me to conclude.

Sen. Olekina Thank you, Sen. Sakaja. This is precisely the point I was trying to put across. We cannot be shifting blame. We can learn from the mess in the health sector. May be that is not a very good example. However, the national Government took over that role which...

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Sen. Olekina Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I join you in welcoming my good friend, Mr. Gianpiero Menza. He is working on--- (Sen. Dullo stood up in her place)

Sen. Olekina It is important for us to think about food security and that is one of the things that the company that he works for is doing. He was actually seconded there by the Government of Italy. He is to come up with crops that are drought resistant. Considering...

Sen. Olekina Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to make comments on this Statement. I hold a different opinion in terms of licensing of these drone operators. When the KCAA published regulations, some of the things that I remember that they highlighted were that for one to be allowed...

Sen. Olekina Absolutely.

Sen. Olekinaoperate those drones do so following the regulations which have been set out by the KCAA.One of the things that I agree with Sen. Sakaja and the other Senators who spoke on this issue is the prohibitive fees. Maybe, that is the area we can be looking at. However,...

On a point of information, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Olekina, do you want to be informed by Sen. Kabaka? Sen. Olekina Mr. Speaker, Sir, I do not wish to be informed. I wish to end there.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, just in support, I would like to let you know that I have been the Chairman of KCAA and I know that it is a complex issue. There are two committees of interest regarding this matter; maybe one Committee will be Committee on Information and Technology. However,...

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Sen. Olekinabudget that does not fall under their five year plan should be considered as going against the County Governments Act that Sen. Wetangula spoke about.The County Government Act, 2012, prohibits any money that has not been budgeted for, from being spent. I sit in the Committee on County Public...

On a point of information, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

What is your point of intervention, Sen. Cherargei?

It is a point of information, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Olekina, do you want to be informed? Sen. Olekina Yes, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Ahsante Mheshimiwa Spika. Ningependa kujulisha ndugu yangu, Seneta wa Narok, na Bunge nzima la Seneti ya kwamba, kulingana na taarifa ya Intergovernmental Budget and Economic Council (IBEC) baada ya mikutano ambayo ilifanyika jana, deni la wanakandarasi limeshuka kwa mwaka huu kutoka Kshs108 bilioni hadi Kshs34.5 bilioni. Ninafikiri, Kamati husika ikiongozwa...

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Let me thank the Senator for Wajir for bringing this Statement. Indeed, it is a very important Statement because pending bills is an issue that is very baffling. Nobody can establish what the figures are. In fact, the Controller of Budget did report...

Asante Bw. Spika kwa kunipa fursa hii kuchangia Taarifa ambayo imeombwa Bungeni na Seneta wa Wajir, Sen. (Dr.) Abdullahi. Kwa hakika---

Sen. Linturi, what is your point of intervention?

Sen. OlekinaGovernment? Now that the Committee has requested for more time, I would expect them to look at the entire contract so that we can ensure due process of the law in terms of core responsibilities.Sometimes one of the challenges that we face is that when we travelled to Samburu...

Well done. Finally, proceed, Sen. Wambua.

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I also stand in support of this Motion. I sit in this Committee, and I know that the MES is a very intricate web of contracts and subcontracts. It is now emerging that there is also another cadre of players, called the co-contactors. Therefore,...

Order, Senators. This is not a matter concerning counties in terms of voting. So, the voting is by acclamation or viva voice vote. (Question put and agreed to) Thank you, colleagues. Tthis is a very important exercise; so far, so good. The ad hoc Committee on Managed Equipment Services (MES)...

Order, Sen. Olekina! From the documents before me--- Sen. Olekina As amended. When I conclude---

Sen. Olekina: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I appreciate your intervention. One of the challenges that I face is that the version that I signed is not the one that was brought here. So, I was actually at a loss. When I signed the document and it was sent, if there...

You should say, ‘I beg to move the following Motion in an amended form.’ That should have been the opening sentence. That is number one. Number two, that amended form, irregular as it was moved, is not supported by the version approved by the Speaker, which poses a technicality. As...

As you know, Sen. Olekina, the approval of the amendment has to be consistent with the law, Standing Orders, practices, et cetera. Resume your seat for a moment; I will give further directions in a short while. (The Deputy Speaker consulted with the Clerk-at-the-Table) Sen. Olekina, as I said, the...

Sen. Madzayo.

Asante, Bw. Naibu Spika, kwa kunipa nafasi hii. Ningependa kuunga mkono na kuafiki Hoja ambayo imependekezwa na ndugu yetu, Sen. Olekina. Katika kizingumkuti hiki kwamba naibu wa gavana atakuwa hana mamlaka ama katika harakati ya kwamba atachukua ofisi nusu awache nusu, tunaona ya kwamba jambo hili limeleta hali ya sintofahamu....

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

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Sen. Olekina That is true, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I take that back.

Sen. Olekina Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the key issue here is that this is a unique situation that we have found ourselves in. I plead with the Senate Majority Leader to think about the merits of this matter. Hypothetically, suppose we change the words “being barred from accessing the office...

Sen. Olekina You will get you time. I think you should be patient enough because---

Sen. Olekina Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, this is a matter of public interest and has nothing to do with the position of a governor. Maybe in future some of us might aspire to be there, but we are looking for continuity. People in Kiambu and Samburu counties are suffering. Maybe...

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Sen. Olekina You will get you time. I think you should be patient enough because---

Let him finish. Sen. Olekina Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, this is a matter of public interest and has nothing to do with the position of a governor. Maybe in future some of us might aspire to be there, but we are looking for continuity. People in Kiambu and Samburu counties...

Sen. Olekina It is unfair; allow me to speak! Surely you are interrupting my thoughts! November 7, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 23 Sen. Olekina colleague talking about the Executive controlling the other arms of Government, by ensuring that the national Treasury is part of the Executive. That is where we went...

You better start concluding, because we have a lot of interest in this matter. November 7, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 24 Sen. Olekina Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is in the public realm that the budget for the Judiciary was cut. Simultaneously, the budget for Parliament was also cut---

Sen. Olekina However, notwithstanding that, I strongly believe that we need to support austerity measures to enable the Government to balance its budget. We need to do that. Austerity measures entail those of us who are in Parliament to cut our budget. The Judiciary also cuts its budget, and the...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, surely, allow me to finish! Everyone has spoken!

Sen. Kang‟ata, you also do that most of the times. (Laughter) Sen. Olekina What is your point of order Sen. Wambua?

Sen. Olekinaridicule and inadequate or denial of medical attention. The intersex persons face these challenges right from birth to adulthood.Whereas the Constitution provides for protection of fundamental rights and freedoms of all Kenyans, including the intersex persons, Kenya has not put in place policies or adequate legal framework on intersex...

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Next Order. First Reading THE SECTIONAL PROPERTIES BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILL NO. 23 OF 2019)

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Mover.

Sen. Olekina Mr. Speaker, Sir, we agreed.

Sen. Olekina Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I beg to give Notice of the following Motion:- THAT, COGNIZANT that Article 179 (4) of the Constitution designates the county governor and the deputy governor as the chief executive and the deputy chief executive of the county respectively; FURTHER, COGNIZANT that Article...

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Sen. Olekina Order, Members!

Sen. Olekina What is it, Sen. Kabaka? Sen. Madzayo is on a point of order; so he has to rest his point first.

Sen. Olekina Order, Sen. Madzayo! November 5, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 42

You have to end by either supporting or opposing. You cannot just rest your case, whether you heart is heavy or light; it does not matter. You either support or oppose. (Several Senators spoke off record) Order, Sen. Cheruiyot! You are the one almost doing what you were accusing the...

Asante Bw. Naibu Spika. Nitakuchangia Hoja hii kwa kutumia lugha ya Kiswahili ili wale wananchi ambao wananisikiliza waelewe jambo ambalo tunalizungumzia juu yake. Napinga Hoja hii vile nilivyoipinga kwenye Kamati. Sijabadili msimamo bado nasimama na “Wanjiku, Nyaboke na Akinyi’. Katika ripoti ya Kamati mimi ni mmoja waliyolipinga jambo hili la...

Sen. Olekina Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Standing Order 75 on the procedure for the removal of a Governor is very clear. Standing Order 75 (1) (a) states that:- ‘Within seven days after receiving notice of a resolution from the speaker of a County Assembly supporting the removal of a governor...

Sen. Olekinathere have been other rulings that have been made by previous Speakers sitting where you are speaking from; what is the procedure of departure from precedence set by the House before? I remember when the former Speaker Ekwee Ethuro was confronted by the Governor Wambora’s case, he made a...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, following from your conversation, for those of us who have not spoken,I would like us to reflect on whether we can freeze a timeline that is in the Constitution? All the timelines that are in the County Governments Act were borrowed from the Constitution in so...

The Senate Majority Leader, that is a good point. It is something that we can reflect on as we go on. There are ways of introducing the matter in the subsequent sittings. There are a million ways of introducing the issue. Before I allow Sen. Wetangula to speak briefly on...