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Sen. M. Kajwang' On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Sen. Zawadi made a detailed request for a Statement on the Floor of this House, to which a fairly detailed response ought to have been given. My concern, which I beg your guidance on, is that there is...

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Sen. M. Kajwang’ Thank you for your encouraging words. We will now go on with our debate. Proceed, Hon. Pareno Judith. (Resumption of debate on the Bill) (Laughter)

Thank you for your encouraging words. We will now go on with our debate. Proceed, Hon. Pareno Judith. (Resumption of debate on the Bill)

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I also join my colleagues in welcoming Medina Boys High School to the Senate. I am sure that after listening to the debate on the National Flag, Emblems and Names (Amendment) Bill, they will leave this Senate feeling patriotic and take the message home....

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Proceed, Sen. Pareno.

Thank you. Sen. Wako Sitswila Amos, Busia County.

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. It is Sitswila Amos Wako, in that order. First of all, I welcome the boys from Medina Schools. The house which I have built is called Medina House. I love the name “Medina.” Therefore, you are in a school with a very good name....

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Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me an opportunity to contribute to this Motion. I have had an opportunity to peruse the Report which was Tabled by the Chairperson of the Committee on Finance and Budget, and I am perplexed. It seems that ageism is pervasive and entrenched...

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Sen. M. Kajwang’ Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for your ruling. Allow me in just one minute to pay gratitude to Sen. Wetangula who has led the minority side for five years going into six years. In the first Senate in the new Constitution, Sen. Wetangula played the role of...

Sen. M. Kajwang’ On a point of order Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. M. Kajwang’ Mr. Speaker, Sir, you might want to order for expunging of that response from the HANSARD because it might not paint the Senate in very positive light. The Chairperson is responding as if this is an overdue statement, yet, it has just been requested for.

Sen. M. Kajwang’ Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I wish to also go on record regarding this Bill. I congratulate the Senate Majority Leader, Sen. Murkomen, for very speedily coming up with this Bill. The media reporting on this Bill has mostly focused on the issue of the assumption...

Sen. M. Kajwang’ Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I was getting a bit emotional because I know you are passionate about education. The unpopularity is automatic the day after your election. The failure of the Senators and MCAs is what I would call an expectation failure; huge expectations that cannot be...

Hon. Kajwang’ Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Of all the people that the HANSARD has captured as having spoken on this Bill, only Hon. Ndirangu comes from Nairobi. The rest are peripheral and rural. (Laughter) Hon. Kajwang’A certified version of this ReportThis is a Bill concerning Nairobi metropolitan area. I feel,...

Hon. Kajwang’ And Garissa which is aspiring to be a metropolitan soon. If the Ministry is concerned about the policy which I have had the advantage of reading, then a legislation should have come which seem to refer to all the metropolises not just a specific part of the country....

Hon. Kajwang’ I know Hon. Ichung’wah has a big problem because one foot is in town but all his uncles and aunties are in the peripheries. Look at Clause 8. I want Members to consider Clause 8, for example. If you are going to have a council such as this,...

Hon. Kajwang’ Hon. Speaker, the Member for Kikuyu forgets that I am government. I am serikali, Hon. Speaker. Hon. Kajwang’A certified version of this Report(Laughter)(Laughter)(Laughter)

Hon. Kajwang’ Hon. Leader of the Majority Party, how I wish you could have been patient a little. I have looked at the Report. This is where we, the National Assembly, are taken for a ride. If nobody has consulted you as a Member of the National Assembly seated here,...

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Hon. Kajwang’ Hon. Speaker, as you know, I cannot interrupt my friend when he is speaking to this, but a report of the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) is one of the most important reports that we have in this House. In fact, Hon. Wandayi bears one of the biggest responsibilities...

Sen. M. Kajwang’ The issue is that you are supposed to sign the statement as the Chairperson of the Committee. What is it, Sen. M. Kajwang’?

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Sen. M. Kajwang’ Let us keep it short. Proceed, Sen. Wamatangi. March 13, 2018 SENATE DEBATES

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Sen. M. Kajwang’Secretary for the National Treasury because, as you can see, even Members of the Standing Committee on Finance and Budget are coming with different points of information.I beg that this is too critical to be lost in our usual political wrangles.

Sen. M. Kajwang’Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, a question was raised on the Floor of this House and we tried to respond to it. In fact, the answers we have here are the only ones. It is not fair to digress into things which are not there, but let me answer...

Sen. M. Kajwang’ Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am a bit worried. Sen. Sakaja is obviously a very well connected Senator within Government. However, he is not in the Executive, but in the Legislature. So, when a Member requests for a statement, it is really an inquisition on Government’s policies towards...

Sen. Kajwang’ Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I wanted to ride on that statement request, although Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. has captured many of the points that I wanted to raise. As the Chairperson prepares a response, it would be important that he also liaises with the Standing Committee on...

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Sen. Kajwang’and town managers. The Mover of this Bill must tell us what is in it for the people who sit out there in the counties rather than jobs for boys and girls who perhaps supported us in the last elections.This Bill touches on the question of Nairobi. I am...

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It is a city county.

Sen. M. Kajwangplants or they are irrigated using sewage. Things are happening that you do not want to imagine would be happening to people.Even though the effect of this Bill would be to elevate Eldoret and Nakuru into city status alongside other numerous municipalities, let us support the respective counties...

Sen. M. Kajwang' Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Before I respond, I must say one or two words on what happened to the Irrigation Bill this afternoon. We cannot be crying as a Senate and requesting for Bills to be introduced first in this House before they go to...

Sen. M. Kajwang' Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I wish to respond. I thank all the Members who have contributed to and against this Bill. That is within their mandate. From my personal view, I believe that this is a useful document. As some of the Senators have said,...

Very well. There being no other interest, I now call upon the Mover to reply.

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Sen. M. Kajwang’ You cannot bring a point of order when the Senator has already concluded.

Sen. M. Kajwang’ Sen. Dullo, do you want to contribute on the same subject matter?

Sen. M. Kajwang’ On another subject matter? Very well, proceed.

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Sen. M. Kajwang’ Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for the opportunity to also add a few remarks in support of the Warehouse Receipts System Bill (Senate Bills No. 10 of 2017) . It is a Bill that is very timely because of the issues that we have seen the...

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Hon. Kajwang’ On a point of order, Hon. Speaker.

Hon. Kajwang’ Hon. Speaker, I have no interest to interrupt the new Member. As I saw the Member address us, I was just wondering if I know the Standing Orders of dress and so on. I am seeing a dress which is so similar to Clerks-at-the-Table. Is it in order...

Hon. Kajwang’ On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. The Temporary Deputy Speaker (Hon. Omulele) : Hon. Kajwang’, what is out of order. Hon. Kajwang’ Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, we are very patient and waiting to contribute substantively to the Bill, but when issues are bandied around which...

Hon. Kajwang’ Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I thank you for giving me an opportunity to contribute to this Bill. I am not very proud that I rose on a point of order because then that brought me down on your list of preference. Listening to Hon. Pkosing argue his case,...

Hon. Kajwang’ The Member is old enough to know that he cannot give me information if I have not requested for it. So, let me just go on and say that this is a very good Bill which we need to support. However, we need to do a lot of...