Kithure Kindiki

Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I did not have my card, so we agree that--- Very well. Could we hear from Sen. Chebeni?

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I did not have my card, so we agree that---

Order, Senator! You know what to do when you do not have your card. April 3, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 23 (Laughter)

Did you want to make an observation?

Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir.

You have no more than two minutes.

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity just to make a brief comment on the Statement by Sen. Sakaja. This is not a matter of Nairobi City County alone; it is one that covers and affects most of our counties. We can see what has happened...

Thank you. Proceed, Sen. Cherargei. Sen. Ochillo- Ayacko, approach the Chair. (Sen. Ochillo-Ayacko approached the Chair) DANGERS OF USING ROUNDUP HERBICIDE

Are there any burning observations? Proceed, Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri.

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is a dangerous situation when we are carelessly using any herbicides, whether in the agricultural farm inputs or in the households. This is particularly so when these chemicals are at the whims of the sales people of the respective companies. Indeed, if you...

Thank you, Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri. Proceed, Senator Cheruiyot.

Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki) : Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki) :

Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki) : Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki) :

Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki) : You have only one copy? Thank you very much. You can now proceed to make your comments as the Report is being circulated immediately. How many copies do you have, Chairperson? February 27, 2019 SENATE DEBATES 20

Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I do agree with the ruling that you have made though I was worried by the statement made by Sen. M. Kajwang‟ as to whether we can have a minority report. I do not understand why that statement came up. So ordered. I...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I do agree with the ruling that you have made though I was worried by the statement made by Sen. M. Kajwang‟ as to whether we can have a minority report. I do not understand why that statement came up.

Order. That is a dangerous suggestion. (The Senators consulted loudly) Order, Senators! It is very easy to get publicity and the emotional part of it and even create news but every time, before you speak on a point of order or on anything, you should think about the institution. Think...

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, my comment is on procedure. Instead of the Committee displaying all the documents that they have received which they will not read, there should be an index of all those documents plus the dates of the contracts. This is because we have noted that some of...

So ordered.

Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki) : On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. If his intention is--- That is what you have done. Nevertheless, your point of order is allowed.

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. If his intention is---

Order, Sen. (Eng.) Maina! He is on a point of order.

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, from what I heard; is it in order for Sen. (Eng.) Maina, who is my good friend and our mentor, to infer that it is Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. who will sort out this issue? Is it in order?

Is that what you said Sen. (Eng.) Maina? Did you say that it is the job of Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. to sort out the issue?

No, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. My younger friend misunderstood me.

Are you referring to the Senator of Nandi County?

Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki) :(Laughter) Is it different? The Senate Minority Leader (

Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I thank the Mover of this Bill for coming up with this legislative proposal that will anchor the requirements; that when we have exploitation of natural resources, there must be benefit in terms of the skills transfer and available business opportunities...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I rise to congratulate the Mover of this Bill, Sen. Moi, for having carefully thought through one of the most important pieces of legislation that we need to introduce into our country in terms of how we handle both the natural resources available in...

are thinking about, Kenyans have the capacity to put in their stamp so that they can earn out of their sweat and skills.The first important element that this Bill brings out is the content of training, but we must now gear our universities and our Technical and Vocational Education Training...

In the mineral sector and under water materials, we have petroleum products. This is a feature we are going to see as we move forward and as they continue exploring. We do not have the expertise to do the extractive processes that are required. We, therefore, need chemical analysts; people...

connotation of replenishment. Replenishment is a totally new game altogether, because you can employ thousands of people in replenishing your environment so that it can feed into the products that you want to develop. That way, you can sustainably use those resources for the benefit of this nation.The sixth element...

Thank you, Sen. (Prof) Ongeri. Indeed, the professorship in you is justified. (Applause)

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker, Sir, for the opportunity to make my remarks regarding this Bill. I totally agree with my neighbor and colleague, Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri, who is a person with a wealth of experience and whose presence in this House is something to celebrate. I take this opportunity...

Order, Sen. Ochillo-Ayacko. How

Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki) : Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki) : Yes.

Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki) : Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki) : Sen. Ndwiga, you are a very experienced parliamentarian. I know you are gesturing at Sen. M. Kajwang’. So, you assume the HANSARD will capture that when you say, “Your Committee” it is the one of Sen. Kajwang’. Unless you clarify perhaps the...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I stand to support the work done by the Committee. What this Committee had done makes one proud to be a Member of the Senate at this time. We were elected to protect the interests of Kenyans at a time when nobody else can....

Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki) : Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki) : Sen. Ndwiga, you are a very experienced parliamentarian. I know you are gesturing at Sen. M. Kajwang’. So, you assume the HANSARD will capture that when you say, “Your Committee” it is the one of Sen. Kajwang’. Unless you clarify perhaps the...

Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I stand to support the work done by the Committee. What this Committee had done makes one proud to be a Member of the Senate at this time. We were elected to protect the interests of Kenyans at a time when nobody else can....