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Mr. Temporary Chairperson, Sir, let us try and help this House with the system of voting where Sen. Wangari and Sen. Chelule are said to have voted for the same county. We want a clarification because every delegate is registered from the county he or she comes from. We want...

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Sen. Orengo Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the reason I am saying this is because I have been having a discussion with the Senate Majority Leader, one point that I emphasise is that the authority of the President to give presidential assent or deny, otherwise a veto, is an important constitutional...

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Sen. Orengo Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to support.

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Sen. Orengo Mr. Speaker, Sir, following from the Deputy Majority Leader, I also fully agree that even when the Committee is ready to present their report, we do not know whether they have enough copies. There may be administrative requirements to make the report available to every Member of the...

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Sen. Orengo Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I beg to second this Clause and raise the following---

Sen. Orengo, I will allow your point or order because you are the one who brought this issue up then I will close. ADJOURNMENT OF DEBATEUNDER STANDING ORDER NO. 99(1) CONSIDERATION OF THE PRESIDENTIAL MEMORANDUM ON THE PUBLIC PROCUREMENT AND ASSET DISPOSAL BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILL NO.40 OF 2014) Sen....

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Sen. Orengo Mr. Temporary Chairman, Sir, I beg to second this Clause and raise the following---

Sen. Orengo, I will allow your point or order because you are the one who brought this issue up then I will close. ADJOURNMENT OF DEBATEUNDER STANDING ORDER NO. 99(1) CONSIDERATION OF THE PRESIDENTIAL MEMORANDUM ON THE PUBLIC PROCUREMENT AND ASSET DISPOSAL BILL (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BILL NO.40 OF 2014) Sen....

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Sen. Orengo Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I will do it very briefly. I appreciate because I have just come in and normally one would not really want to intervene when he or she has been away. However, I remember in the “old House” Question Time was known as show time....

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Sen. Orengo Sen. Orengo, you can be sure that is no basis for expediting the ruling. If he comes in a shuka and a sword, he will not even enter the Chamber because he will be carrying an offensive weapon. (Laughter)

Sen. Orengo, you can be sure that is no basis for expediting the ruling. If he comes in a shuka and a sword, he will not even enter the Chamber because he will be carrying an offensive weapon.

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. What we are seeing this afternoon is not different from what Sen. Haji wore at the commencement of this Senate. I cannot remember whether it was at The Kenyatta International Convention Centre (KICC) or County Hall, but I remember you made a...

Sen. Abdirahman, how can you not quote the authority?

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have quoted the authority as part of your ruling. It is an Islamic dress. Islam draws its knowledge and teachings from not only the Holy Quran, but also the teachings of the Prophet. This is what constitutes Islamic knowledge and history. I am not teaching any...

Order, Members! That is the end of that story. Sen. Bule, what do you have to say?

Asante sana, Bw. Spika. Mavazi yangu isiwe ni ya Hoja leo. Mimi ni Mwislamu na ni kawaida kwa Mwislamu, na haya ni mavazi ambayo kawaida na hata katika sheria yetu ya Bunge inaruhusu mtu awe na kanzu na koti. Pengine tasbihi ambayo nimebeba mkononi huenda ikawa mtu akaona kwamba ni...

Order! Sen. Bule. Resume your seat. I will make the necessary ruling sooner than later. Let us go to Statement 2 (c) .

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Part 2 (c) is about a Statement requested by Sen. Kanainza regarding the death of Mrs. Maurine Tata during delivery. Also, in her several questions, the Senator sought from question Nos.7 to 11 about the same thing that we covered about negligence, quacks and I...

Proceed along those lines.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Her first question is whether the Government is aware one Mrs. Tata was hospitalized at St Francis Community Hospital. The answer says the Ministry is aware that Mrs. Tata was admitted at St Francis Community Hospital on 4th July, 2015 for delivery and delivered through...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I have tried to interrogate the reply given by the Chair of the Health Committee and it is very unfortunate that the Cabinet Secretary (CS) together with the Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentists Board are trying to protect the sins committed by this hospital in...

When the family went to hospital on that fateful night of 7th July, 2015, they decided to take the patient to hospital. So, this Statement is not true and is not the right response. I would request that the Committee on Health visits this particular hospital and confirms a number...

Order! You have made your request. Sen. Wangari, you want a clarification?

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I will repeat again that the Committee on Health needs to interrogate these issues. As you can see, the frequency of the negligence of doctors is coming here every day every time. On the Statement, this specific mother left a few hours old baby. It...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am surprised that the Chairman who is also a doctor of medicine could accept this kind of answer. He has told us that the autopsy findings indicated that there was no internal hemorrhage bleeding. I would have expected him to use the same postmortem to tell...

Order! Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale. What is the difference between internal hemorrhage and bleeding?

Mr. Speaker, Sir, those two words mean the same thing. I just used them interchangeably. When I said the word “hemorrhage”, I might have lost a few listeners, so I replaced it with the word “bleeding.” Is the Chairman in order---

Order, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale! Where does the Chairman come in? I am the one who asked you that question. Sen. (Dr.) Kuti, please, proceed.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, the cause of death has just been sought but it was not among the questions that were sought by Sen. Kanainza. However, now that it has come up, we will find out what the cause of death was. The other issue, I agree that what---

Order, Chairman! The question that was sought required you to issue a statement regarding the death. How do you issue such a statement without knowing the cause? There must have been an autopsy.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, there was the issue of referral of the patient to Kenyatta National Hospital (KNH) , which is not clear to me. Therefore, I would like to withdraw this statement and seek a better answer. I also agree that we should visit the October 13, 2015 SENATE DEBATES

facility and get a satisfactory answer. The statement does not answer all the questions as to why the patient was transferred from that facility to KNH. What was the purpose of the referral?

Order, Chairman! You are being repetitive. When will you give the answer?

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I will give an answer in two weeks’ time.

Very well. Sen. Khaniri, I hope that the one week you requested also applies to Sen. Murungi’s statement because we did not conclude it.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, we concluded the statement by Sen. Murungi

Sen. Orengo I do not understand why you appear agitated for a simple request and particularly when you are not listening. These Statements are prepared way in advance. In appreciating the issues we have raised, I actually clarified my own Statement as I was reading it; 10 minutes to the...

Sen. Orengo Ni nini maana ya part ya? Hoja ya nidhamu, umesema--- The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Wetangula) : Bw. Spika wa Muda, ukitaka kujua vile lugha huwa ni kuchukua maneno kutoka lugha zingine.

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