David Musila

Sen. Musila

Sen. Musila

Sen. Musila Your time is up but Sen. Elachi says she can give you two minutes from her time.

When Sen. Ntutu sought a Statement; he was seeking it from the Chairman. So, when you come and read a Statement from the county secretary or even the governor, that will not still be holding, because this House will be expecting a Statement from the Chair. If you want to...

On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir.

How do you again challenge the ruling? You cannot do that.

On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker Sir. I want to thank you for that clarity in your directive. I was itching that we must do something on this Floor, like we have done today, lest somebody thinks he could stop me. I am alive to the fact that...

Thank you very much, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Concerning this question which has taken about three months, we have enough evidence to prove that the money was not banked. According to Annexture 32 of the Narok Petition, which was signed by one Chief Executive Officer of Mara Conservancy, Brian Heath,...

Sen. Ntutu, we referred the matter back to the Committee. If you will appear before the Committee and tell them what you are saying now, I think that would be the right procedure, not in the House now. Next Order! October 7th, 2015 SENATE DEBATES THE HIV AND AIDS PREVENTION...

The last speaker was Sen. Chelule and she is not in the House. So, those who did not contribute now have a chance to contribute to this Bill. Who is No. 42? Sen. Musila Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I stand to support this Bill because of the importance that I...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I congratulate the distinguished Senator for Migori for bringing this Bill. I support the Bill for reasons that health is a devolved function. Being a devolved function, we must – as the Senate that defends and protects counties and their governments – ensure that...

On a point of information, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I appreciate the Senate Minority Leader for the kind words that he has for my county. However, it is unfortunate to judge a county by the way the roadside looks like. It could be quite different from what is happening in...

Sen. Mungai, you are completely out of order! I also think that the Governor has made the town to be clean. You should appreciate him. We do not need people running everywhere in the town. If they have been put in the rightful areas, we should commend him. Moreover, you...

On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. If you listened carefully – which I believe you did – to the point of information by Sen. Mungai, you must have heard him say that the Governor for Nakuru does not clean dirt but people. Would I, therefore, be in...

To save on time, even if Sen. Mungai said “cleaning people,” I think he meant that the governor has cleaned or removed people along the roads, and, to an extent of, maybe, making them clean. Sen. Musila On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. There is a matter...

He is not in order. That is why I ruled him out of order. The Senate Minority Leader (

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, you can take judicial notice of the fact that the distinguished Senator for Nakuru County is hardly in this House. Therefore, probably, procedure eludes him. (Laughter)

On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. It is unfortunate that the Senate Minority Leader can utter such words. Any time that I am out of this House, I normally do so with permission from the Speaker. At the same time, I happen to be a Senator with...

Go on, Sen. Wetangula. October 7th, 2015 SENATE DEBATES

Sen. Wetangula, I would not like to cut you short. However, I know that you still have time but I can see that some other Senators also want to contribute. Could you be generous and use the time allocated to you? The Senate Minority Leader (

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I am about to finish. I am on my last two minutes.

Okay. The Senate Minority Leader (

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we need to have a doctrine called budget tracking. When you give money to a project, you must follow it as it is spent along the way so that, two years later, we do not say that money that was sent to Laikipia was stolen and...

Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity to talk on this very important amendment Bill. The Bill seeks to amend the HIV and AIDS Prevention and Control Act. As I stand here, I am very happy that the main Act was moved in October 7th, 2015...

Senators, please, consult in low tones.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, that is why I was speaking loudly so that they hear my voice in whatever they are consulting. Particularly, when the Leader of Minority, Sen. Wetangula and the tycoon from Nakuru are discussing and our gracious lady from Kakamega is there looking at me and talking....

Your time is up but Sen. Elachi says she can give you two minutes from her time.

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I thank the Senator for Migori County for bringing this Bill which is long overdue. We used to have the Constituency HIV/AIDS Board. However, we are now introducing the county committee. Two weeks ago, a young man, a seven year old from Kenya, who has HIV/AIDS,...

Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the importance of the topic of HIV/AIDS in Kenya cannot be underestimated, with a prevalence rate of around 5.8 per cent at this time. Knowing that the range is wide, in some areas of this country, the prevalence rate is as high as 18 per cent,...

I defer the division to an appropriate date when we will have the numbers in the House. (Putting of the Question deferred) Next order! Second Reading THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY BILL (SENATE BILL NO.37 OF 2014)

(Bill deferred)The Bill is deferred to next week. Second Reading THE NATIONAL EXAMINATIONS COUNCIL (AMENDMENT) BILL (SENATE BILL NO.7 OF 2015)

(Bill deferred)This Bill is deferred to tomorrow. Second Reading THE PRESERVATION OF HUMAN DIGNITY AND ENFORCEMENT OF ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL RIGHTS (SENATE BILL NO. 8 OF 2015)

(Bill deferred)This Bill is also deferred to tomorrow. October 7th, 2015 SENATE DEBATES THE COUNTY LIBRARY SERVICES BILL (SENATE BILL NO. 6 OF 2015)

(Bill deferred)This Bill is also deferred. ADJOURNMENT

Sen. Musila On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I stand once again for the third time since we came from recess to seek the indulgence of the Chair. I think last time the Chair ordered that the secretariat looks into the matter of bringing the Cabinet Secretaries...

Sen. Musila Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is the matter of cash transfers for the Cabinet Secretary (CS) for Labour, Social Security and Services and the matter of security in Kitui-Tana River border, which continues to bring problems every now and then. Our people are suffering, being killed with guns...

Sen. Musila Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, last time the Chair gave directions that the Clerk of the Senate facilitates the meeting with these officials and informs the House when these meetings are going to take place. However, so far, the Clerk has not given any indication whether he has taken...

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Sen. Musila Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, two weeks ago, I sought a Statement on the state of insecurity in Nandi County. The Chairperson of the Committee on National Security and Foreign Relations undertook to bring the Statement to this House in one week’s time. On the day that we were...

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Sen. Musila On a point of order, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I am assuming that you have completed Statement (e) . Mine concerns two issues about cash transfers to the elderly, the youth and the disabled. First, you will recall that the Acting Cabinet Secretary for Labour and Social Welfare...

Sen. Musila Mr. Speaker, Sir, while acknowledging the rights of the petitioner to petition this House, I would like to advise him and perhaps the Committee that is going to look into this matter that the matter of how many devolved units we are going to get was a matter...

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Sen. Musila

Sen. Musila Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am very disappointed. The House will recall that this matter has been coming up almost every time we meet. The matter was postponed because – to quote the HANSARD – the Vice-Chairperson said; “I would request my Chairperson to accompany me to the office...

Sen. Musila Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Chairman has requested to come with a response on Thursday. However, this matter can only be resolved when the CS is invited to this House so that all of us cross-examine him. This is because we cannot expect the July 28th, 2015 SENATE DEBATES

Sen. Musila On a point of clarification, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I would like to know something regarding the approval that the Chairperson has talked about. Once the Committee finishes with a report, signs it, who approves it to be brought to the House? The Committee works on behalf of this...

Sen. Musila Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank the Vice Chairperson of the Committee for the answer and for the efforts she has been making in giving us a response to this very important issue. I want to express my deepest disappointment over this matter. The killings were done three months...

Sen. Musila Mr. Speaker, Sir, Sen. Leshore is a friend of mine. Coming from Samburu County where banditry and cattle rustling is the order of the day, I am shocked that he appears to be supporting banditry. For his information, in Kitui County, we do not have such things. We...

Sen. Musila Mr. Speaker, Sir, I believe the Member is not properly informed. We were not expecting a response to a statement. We were expecting the Cabinet Secretary to come. This was a matter of the date of when the Cabinet Secretary would come to complete the work that she...

Sen. Musila Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I stand in connection with Statement No. (d) on the Order Paper on the issue of killings between Kitui and Tana River borders particularly the killings that are happening to my people in Kitui County. The issue has gone on for a long...

Sen. Musila

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