Kiraitu Murungi

Sen. Murungi Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I rise to support this Motion. The time has come for this country to take science and technology much more seriously than we have done before. One wonders why nations like the Unites States of America (USA) are super powers or why they...

Sen. Murungi Mr. Speaker, Sir, I second. (Question, that Sen. Mositet be elected to preside over the Sitting, put and agreed to)

Sen. Murungi Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the Mover of this Motion is not present. He has some very pressing commitments outside the Chamber. I pray that the Motion be deferred to tomorrow.

Sen. Murungi Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Could you protect me from this uncivilized behaviour? Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to join the Senior Counsel, Sen. James Orengo, in congratulating you for your humility and being a shiny path for constitutionalism and the rule of law in this country. This...

Sen. Murungi Madam Temporary Speaker, I will be very brief because many of the things I wanted to say have been said by the previous speakers including Sen. Obure and Sen. G.G. Kariuki. First, I want to congratulate Sen. Sang for coming up with this Bill and also the Members...

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Sen. MurungiJustice. I think those are enough. As for the rest, if they mention Sen. Chris Obure, who does not know that he is a great leader in Kisii County? I do not need a flag; my face alone is a flag in Meru!(Applause) Order, hon. Senators! (Laughter) Sen. Murungi...

Sure! You are right! Sen. Murungito open up the road for themselves. I think we need to be sober as we address this issue so that even the proviso that has been given down there by Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale that the Governor may also be entitled to fly a National...

Sen. Murungi On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I want to thank the senior Senator, Sen. Khaniri, for the comprehensive statement. You will note that we have been demanding this statement since the new session of the Senate began. I am happy that, finally, he has come, not...

Sen. Murungi On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Murungi Mr. Speaker, Sir, before we move to the next Order, I thought the Chairman of the Committee on Agriculture, Land and Natural Resources had a Statement to make. (Sen. Kivuti stood up in his place)

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Sen. Murungi Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I wish to support the Motion. I commend the Committee on Energy, Roads and Transportation for their expeditious, courageous and wonderful work, having been sworn-in in March and barely before the ink dried, they were out in June doing a commendable job. That...

Sen. Murungibe a nuclear power programme is very welcome. However, we should take all the precautions because we know and have learnt that there is a side that can be very dangerous. The dangerous effect can take more than a decade. As we put up the nuclear plants, I would...

Sen. Murungipower, which is really the greatest African resource for power generation.

Sen. Murungiextent that we normally see things moving.What is happening in our universities today? Between 100,000 and 200,000 students graduate from our colleges and universities every year. But which courses are selling like hot cake? They are the ones that can enable the graduate to get a job. Everybody is...

Sen. Murungi Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to thank Sen. Yusuf Haji for the Statement that he has made in this House. It is true that the Senator for Isiolo and I have October 29, 2013 SENATE DEBATES Sen. Murungiworked together for a long time. Since he assumed power...

Sen. Murungi On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I want to propose some way forward in this matter. What my colleague, Sen. Kuti, said is true. There are many Meru people who live, especially, in Isiolo Town and there are many people from Isiolo also on the Meru...

Sen. Murungi Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would like to thank Sen. Yusuf Haji for the Statement that he has made in this House. It is true that the Senator for Isiolo and I have worked together for a long time. Since he assumed power in Isiolo, the security situation in...

Sen. Murungi On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I want to propose some way forward in this matter. What my colleague, Sen. Kuti, said is true. There are many Meru people who live, especially, in Isiolo Town and there are many people from Isiolo also on Meru side....

Sen. Murungi Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to request a Statement from the Chairman of the Committee on Devolution and Planning on the following issues: First, what steps the Salaries and Remuneration Commission (SRC) is taking to review the salaries and allowances of the Members of the County Assemblies (MCAs)...

Sen. Murungi Mr. Speaker, Sir, I stand corrected. I request the Statement from the Chairman of the Committee on Devolved Government. Secondly, we had a debate on a Motion brought by Sen. Elachi in which this matter was declared to be of definite and urgent national importance. The Chairman says...

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Sen. Murungi Order, Sen. Chelule! Where are you going? Do you have a point of order or something?

Sen. Murungi That should be arranged; the two Chairpersons, get in touch with the two Senators and make a visit to the place. (Laughter) October 22, 2013 SENATE DEBATES

What is it, Sen. Muthama?

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. With your previous ruling on the issue that was raised by Sen. Wamatangi, may I kindly ask the Chair to give – I do not know whether I want to say “orders” or “undertaking” – from the two Chairpersons, since the report...

That should be arranged; the two Chairpersons, get in touch with the two Senators and make a visit to the place.

We are very much obliged, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Lenny Kivuti on the issue by Sen. Kiraitu. Remember also that there is an outstanding issue by Sen. (Dr.) Zani.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. If you give me a chance, I can answer all of them.

Do you want to respond now?

It is possible, because today in the morning, we already had a meeting and we discussed about all these issues, except the one by Sen. Muthama, which I may also wish to comment about, with your permission.

I appreciate your brain capacity, but for purposes of record, it would have been nice to see some documentation with you. So, you are ready on Sen. (Dr.) Zani’s Statement?

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I wanted to make some comments which have been raised and which are already in my head, unless you direct that I go and write them up.

It is better that way. Give us something written and then, tomorrow afternoon, I will allow you to respond to all of them.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg for your indulgence---

For your information, Chairperson, even the Chair needs a copy of what you are going to inform the House.

The reason is because Sen. Kiraitu was not here last Thursday, when you directed that the answer be brought here in two weeks; which is Thursday next week. That is already in the HANSARD. Mr. Speaker, Sir, by today, we had not received a response from the Cabinet Secretary (CS)...

According to the emerging issues, which, Mr. Speaker, Sir, you are aware of - about the reorganization of the Ministry of Lands, Housing and Urban Development; and also the three million titles. All these issues were discussed in our Committee, and we need to get answers from the Cabinet Secretary.As...

Sen. Kiraitu? Sen. Murungi Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am agreeable to your proposal of giving the Chairman of that Committee one more chance to give us the Statement on the 99-year leases on Thursday next week. But if he does not do so, then dire consequences should be visited on...

Indeed, on the issue of Sen. (Dr.) Zani and Sen. Kiraitu Murungi, the Chair had actually sought for that extension last week, and we allowed it; which was repeated in the case of Sen. (Dr.) Zani this afternoon by the Vice- Chair. So, we should proceed that way. And then...

I will be very brief, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

I want to thank Sen. (Dr.) Machage for reminding us of Standing Order No.107.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, you heard the Chair of the Committee on Agriculture, Land and Natural Resources say that they should wait for the report from NEMA so that they can see what value it will add on the report that will be brought by the Committee on Health, Labour and...

Order! Order, Sen. Muthama!

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Wamatangi, you have only one minute.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I assure you that I will not be repetitive. Mr. Speaker, Sir, in pursuit of what the Chair has said and in the pursuit of getting facts, that water has already been taken to the Government laboratories for testing; the results are out; that the...

Order, hon. Senators! This is all useful information and should be forwarded to the Committee. We cannot transact business here that would better be transacted at the committee stage. I plead with you and it is important that we agree. By the time the Chairperson starts pursuing the matter, you...

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Mine is an issue of addressing the Constitution on the failure of the system. Since March, when this Senate was elected, we have seen deficiencies that exist in terms of transacting business in this House by the Government. Indeed, the Government has...

Mr. Speaker, Sir, it would not be the first time for me to land there. As a matter of principle, I will not withdraw. October 22, 2013 SENATE DEBATES

Sen. (Dr.) Machage, I will give you the last chance to withdraw.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, our Constitution has failed to address a lot of matters that need to be seen critically. I will not withdraw.

In that case, Sen. (Dr.) Machage, you may withdraw from the Chamber for the remainder of the day. (Sen. (Dr.) Machage withdrew from the Chamber)

Just before I invite Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki, Senators, you have an opportunity to interrogate the Government or the people that represent the Government like the Senate Majority Leader every Thursday. Your Standing Orders have accorded you that opportunity. However, you do not do that. You want to do it when...

Mr. Speaker, Sir thank you for that direction. On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. Given what has just transpired in this Chamber, which is quite unfortunate, there is a difference between an attack on the Government which is a political entity and an attack on the Constitution of...

facing difficulties, for instance, that they are travelling out of the country and there is a responsibility to be discharged. I need to know that. Otherwise, I am afraid that I do not know how responses to the five statements will be found.We need a bit of guidance before we...

Sen. Murungi That should be arranged; the two Chairpersons, get in touch with the two Senators and make a visit to the place. (Laughter) October 22, 2013 SENATE DEBATES

What is it, Sen. Muthama?

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. With your previous ruling on the issue that was raised by Sen. Wamatangi, may I kindly ask the Chair to give – I do not know whether I want to say “orders” or “undertaking” – from the two Chairpersons, since the report...

That should be arranged; the two Chairpersons, get in touch with the two Senators and make a visit to the place.

We are very much obliged, Mr. Speaker, Sir.

Sen. Lenny Kivuti on the issue by Sen. Kiraitu. Remember also that there is an outstanding issue by Sen. (Dr.) Zani.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. If you give me a chance, I can answer all of them.

Do you want to respond now?

It is possible, because today in the morning, we already had a meeting and we discussed about all these issues, except the one by Sen. Muthama, which I may also wish to comment about, with your permission.

I appreciate your brain capacity, but for purposes of record, it would have been nice to see some documentation with you. So, you are ready on Sen. (Dr.) Zani’s Statement?

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I wanted to make some comments which have been raised and which are already in my head, unless you direct that I go and write them up.

It is better that way. Give us something written and then, tomorrow afternoon, I will allow you to respond to all of them.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg for your indulgence---

For your information, Chairperson, even the Chair needs a copy of what you are going to inform the House.

The reason is because Sen. Kiraitu was not here last Thursday, when you directed that the answer be brought here in two weeks; which is Thursday next week. That is already in the HANSARD. Mr. Speaker, Sir, by today, we had not received a response from the Cabinet Secretary (CS)...

According to the emerging issues, which, Mr. Speaker, Sir, you are aware of - about the reorganization of the Ministry of Lands, Housing and Urban Development; and also the three million titles. All these issues were discussed in our Committee, and we need to get answers from the Cabinet Secretary.As...

Sen. Kiraitu? Sen. Murungi Mr. Speaker, Sir, you heard the Chair of the Committee on Agriculture, Land and Natural Resources say that they should wait for the report from NEMA so that they can see what value it will add on the report that will be brought by the Committee...

Indeed, on the issue of Sen. (Dr.) Zani and Sen. Kiraitu Murungi, the Chair had actually sought for that extension last week, and we allowed it; which was repeated in the case of Sen. (Dr.) Zani this afternoon by the Vice- Chair. So, we should proceed that way. And then...