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Sen. Kajwang On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I wonder why any Senator would be jittery or embarrassed with information that we already have. We have this information in our libraries, Parliament, Government institutions and in our universities. There is really nothing to hide. Marsabit has always been...

Sen. Kajwang’ Mr. Speaker, Sir, we must agree that we are in a new dispensation and it will take us a long time to really cope with some of these new provisions. But there is no Government and Opposition in this House. There are only two things; a Majority Party...

Sen. Kajwang Mr. Speaker, Sir, just to shorten it, let us accept that we are in a new dispensation in which there is the National Assembly and the Senate, for that matter. Our job is merely to oversight and make law. That is part of oversight. A Committee may be...

Sen. Kajwang Mr. Speaker, Sir, I think that when a senior Member of the House says that we think that we are in a coalition, I think that he is referring to the old coalition. Of course, even Jubilee is a Coalition, but look at the Presidential systems all over...

Sen. Kajwang Mr. Speaker, Sir, I do not see the problem here. First of all, you cannot summon the President or the Deputy President with all due respect to the Attorney-General emeritus, so that they can come and address us at will, when they think that there is something that...

Sen. Kajwang Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have also received some information from Homa Bay County that the Governor, as the head of that government, has been required to submit to the Cabinet Secretary in charge of devolution, their budget. I do not know under what provision of the law that...

Sen. Kajwang On a point of order, Madam Temporary Speaker. Prof. Kindiki, who is also the Senate Majority Leader, seems to be fixed on things which are gone. There is something he referred to as the Opposition in this House. He has referred to this again and again. We changed...

Sen. Kajwang Madam Temporary Speaker, this is a point of order. Is he in order to keep on talking about the Opposition in this House and some people pretending to be the Government in the House when we have no Government here?

Sen. Kajwang Madam Temporary Speaker, let me start by saying that I support the Motion and I want to thank Sen. Elachi for bringing this Motion. This morning, there was a radio programme in one of the FM radio stations; I think it was Radio Ramogi, and they were talking...

Sen. Kajwang Madam Temporary Speaker, I gave him the cheque but after he left Form Four and because of the adolescence stage, he got a C+. He would have gone to July 11, 2013 SENATE DEBATES Sen. Kajwanguniversity if he wanted to because he was a very brilliant boy. But...

Sen. Kajwang Madam Temporary Speaker, first of all, I want to send my personal condolences and the condolences of Homa Bay County residents – who are neighbours of Kisii County – we feel the loss as neighbours and as members who come from one region. I want to send my...

Sen. Kajwang On behalf of Homa Bay--- (Laughter)

Sen. Kajwang Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I don’t quite understand the ruling. As a matter of fact, I am already being accused of being repetitive. (Loud consultations)

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Sen. Kajwang On behalf of Homa Bay--- (Laughter)

Sen. Kajwang Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I don’t quite understand the ruling. As a matter of fact, I am already being accused of being repetitive. (Loud consultations)

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Sen. Kajwang Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity to support this Motion. Let me start by saying that most Government agencies know exactly when an employee will retire. They even give a year’s notice prior to the retirement date. The note shows that next year,...

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Sen. Kajwang On a point of information, Madam Temporary Speaker.

Sen. Kajwang Madam Temporary Speaker, I want to inform my brother that because the Senate has been designated as the House of Wazee, we are particularly interested in wazee getting their money.

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Hon. Kajwang Thank you, hon. Speaker, Sir. I am a member of this Committee. Under the doctrine of collective responsibility, I have a responsibility to second this Motion. The nominee went under the vetting process as is conceived in the Public Appointments (Parliamentary Approval) Act No.33 of 2001. He went...

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Sen. Kajwang Sen. Murkomen, do not attempt to question the Chair’s ruling. We need to proceed to expend the business as earlier directed. Sen. Khalwale!

On a point of order, Madam Temporary Speaker. I notice that we are just about 20 people. We can vote very fast in less than five minutes. I think the Senate Leader of Minority is being dishonest. He is using the wrong excuse. He is being creative in looking for...

On a point of order, Madam Temporary Speaker. The rules of the House dictate that we respect the ruling of the Chair. The Chair had already ruled that this Motion that was tabled by Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale be discussed not later than 5.00 pm. We only have five minutes to...

Madam Temporary Speaker, these are valid arguments. You have discretion within the Standing Orders to extend time, for us to deal with all the business before the House this afternoon. So, you can give them five or ten minutes towards the end, so that we can do the voting first...

Madam Temporary Speaker, thank you for giving me this opportunity. I would very much have liked that we vote now, but the reasons given by the Senate Minority Leader and others are very good. I want to add another reason. If you look at the Order Paper, on the Motion...

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Sen. Kajwang Mr. Chairman, Sir, the Clerk can help us. When I stand as the head of the delegation from Homa Bay, you can ask: “How do you vote on this?” I will say: “Yes” or “No”. You will then ask: “How do you vote on Clause 3?” I will...

For purposes of the HANSARD, hon. Sen. Kajwang has voted for Clause 3. (Hon. Senators proceeded to vote)

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Sen. KajwangTeller of the Ayes: Teller of the Ayes:

Sen. Kajwangeach clause was actually enacted by Parliament or Senate, there should be a record that each clause was actually voted on by the House. I think that Sen. Judith Sijeny remembers when proceedings in the House were subjected to litigation in Arusha. The East African Court of Justice wanted...

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Sen. Kajwangeach clause was actually enacted by Parliament or Senate, there should be a record that each clause was actually voted on by the House. I think that Sen. Judith Sijeny remembers when proceedings in the House were subjected to litigation in Arusha. The East African Court of Justice wanted...

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Sen. Kajwang Thank you very much, Madam Temporary Speaker. First, this is a good day for us, as a Senate, that we are discussing distribution or division of revenue between the national Government and the county governments. There was a first Senate that would have done this job because I...

Sen. Kajwang Madam Temporary Speaker, Sen. Murkomen is a good man.

Sen. Kajwang Madam Temporary Speaker, I was very generous to my brother. He actually touched on the issues which I wanted to touch on. So, I will not belabour them. May 22, 2013 SENATE DEBATES Sen. KajwangMadam Temporary Speaker, let me say from the outset that we need to seriously...

Sen. Kajwang What is the point of order?

Sen. Kajwang Madam Temporary Speaker, I am not quite out of order. You know Sen. Murkomen has never seen a fish. He does not know what the fish do. I am a fisherman and I know where our fish breed. After breeding, they move into the deeper waters. Of course,...

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Sen. Kajwang Hon. Senators, I think the debate is of great national importance and interest. All our counties are eagerly waiting to see what their Senators have to say or to contribute. If we go by what is happening now, that every speaker is given 30 minutes, then we will...

Madam Temporary Speaker, I wish to inform the distinguished Senator for Homa Bay County who is my learned Senior that the role and function of the protection of the environment and natural resources with a view to establishing a durable and sustainable system of development, including and in particular fishing,...

Hon. Senators, I think the debate is of great national importance and interest. All our counties are eagerly waiting to see what their Senators have to say or to contribute. If we go by what is happening now, that every speaker is given 30 minutes, then we will only have...

already at 11.20 a.m. We want to conclude this by 12.30 p.m. and go to the third stage in the afternoon. I will now put the Question. (Question, that contribution time be limited to ten minutes, put and agreed to)

Sen. Kajwang Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. First, I want to thank Sen. (Dr.) Zani for this timely Motion. I do not know her background. But it seems like she has a background in mining. The Motion is quite lengthy and convoluted, sometimes complex, but she has captured what...

Sen. Kajwang Thank you very much, Madam Temporary Speaker. First, this is a good day for us, as a Senate, that we are discussing distribution or division of revenue between the national Government and the county governments. There was a first Senate that would have done this job because I...

Sen. Kajwang Madam Temporary Speaker, Sen. Murkomen is a good man.

Sen. Kajwang Madam Temporary Speaker, I was very generous to my brother. He actually touched on the issues which I wanted to touch on. So, I will not belabour them. Madam Temporary Speaker, let me say from the outset that we need to seriously deal with the historical injustices which...

Sen. Kajwang What is the point of order?

Sen. Kajwang Madam Temporary Speaker, I am not quite out of order. You know Sen. Murkomen has never seen a fish. He does not know what the fish do. I am a fisherman and I know where our fish breed. After breeding, they move into the deeper waters. Of course,...

Sen. Kajwang Yes. I agree. The Senate Minority Leader (Sen. Wetangula) : Madam Temporary Speaker, I wish to inform the distinguished Senator for Homa Bay County who is my learned Senior that the role and function of the protection of the environment and natural resources with a view to establishing...

Madam Temporary Speaker, I wish to inform the distinguished Senator for Homa Bay County who is my learned Senior that the role and function of the protection of the environment and natural resources with a view to establishing a durable and sustainable system of development, including and in particular fishing,...

Hon. Senators, I think the debate is of great national importance and interest. All our counties are eagerly waiting to see what their Senators have to say or to contribute. If we go by what is happening now, that every speaker is given 30 minutes, then we will only have...

On a point of order, Madam Temporary Speaker. I want to assist the House. Since voting will not be by voice or shouting, but by delegation, I propose that you put the Question at 20 minutes past midday, so that we have ten minutes to vote because we will have...

Sen. Kajwang Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. First, I want to thank Sen. (Dr.) Zani for this timely Motion. I do not know her background. But it seems like she has a background in mining. The Motion is quite lengthy and convoluted, sometimes complex, but she has captured what...

Sen. Kajwang Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. First, I want to thank Sen. (Dr.) Zani for this timely Motion. I do not know her background. But it seems like she has a background in mining. The Motion is quite lengthy and convoluted, sometimes complex, but she has captured what...

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Sen. Kajwang Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to thank Sen. Orengo for giving me three minutes of his time. He has changed his mind from five minutes to three minutes. I had a good speech to make, but now I do not have the time to do it. I...

Sen. Kajwang Why must they pay them?

Sen. Kajwang Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, these debts were incurred by the national Government through a department called the local Government, and each debt was signed for by the Minister for Local Government of the national Government! (Applause) May 15, 2013 SENATE DEBATES Sen. Kajwangaudit those debts, if they want...